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    Default UFOs The True Story of Flying Saucers Docu - Drama released 1956 // Capt. Mantell Related material

    The docu - drama starts at what some consider the beginning of reporting of the
    phenomenon , certainly the coining of the term 'Fly - Saucers'. Though we now
    know there were incidents predating it and infact throughout known human history.
    It is very interesting for it gives you an idea of what was happening back then.
    Though it predates by a couple of years it follows hot on the heels of the 1958 UFO
    radio show with Arthur C Clark I posted recently , and is opening the veil of
    mystique that comes with time and shows they were asking the same questions
    back then as we are today. This is an historical piece of information and should be
    seen as part of the overall disclosure picture imo.

    Arthur C Clarke, Major Wayne Aho + others....Radio show on UFO's..2.May.1958

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-s..2.May.1958

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    The 1947 Kenneth Arnold UFO Sighting

    Date: June 24, 1947
    Location: Near Mt. Rainier, Washington, United States



    The modern phenomena of UFOs and “flying saucers” began in Washington state on
    June 24, 1947, when Kenneth Arnold spotted nine mysterious, high-speed
    objects “flying like a saucer would” along the crest of the Cascade Range near
    Mount Rainier. His report made international headlines and triggered hundreds of
    similar accounts of “flying saucers” locally and across the nation.

    http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case511.htm

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    This is the most substantial UFO documentary ever made that portrays the events of
    the first UFO sightings. It even features some of the best UFO footage ever captured.
    The UFO footage consists of two videos called the Montana Film and the Utah Film.



    The UFO footage features UFOs flying at incredible speed in formation and even circling
    each other high in the sky as if to orbit each other. Here is the full movie on YouTube.
    Fast forward to the 1:22:00 mark for the original two UFO films.

    In 1952 Hollywood producer Clarence Greene saw an unusual object twisting in the sky.
    He decided to report the sighting, and contacted US Air Force public information officer
    Albert M. Chop, who was in charge of answering UFO questions from reporters and the
    public. Intrigued by his experience, Greene decided to film a documentary movie about
    the UFO phenomenon. When Chop told Greene about the existence of video footage of
    UFOs, Greene obtained the footage for analysis and display in his documentary.


    The documentary starts in 1947, with the first widely-publicized UFO sightings in the
    United States, including recreations of the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting, the Mantell
    UFO incident, and the Gorman Dogfight. It then traces the development of UFOs as both
    a popular fad and a serious concern for the US Air Force. The history of Project Sign, the
    first Air Force study of the UFO phenomenon, is discussed. The documentary then
    focuses upon Albert M. Chop and his growing involvement with UFOs. Chop is assigned
    as the public information officer at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, in
    the late 1940s. In that position he is required to answer numerous news media queries
    about UFO sightings and what the Air Force knows about them. Although he is initially
    portrayed as a UFO debunker, Chop gradually changes his views as the movie
    progresses, and he comes to believe that UFOs are unknown, and possibly
    extraterrestrial, aircraft. By 1952 Chop has moved to Washington, DC, where he is the
    press spokesman for Project Blue Book. The documentary analyzes two famous pieces
    of UFO footage: the Mariana UFO Incident of 1950, in which the manager of the Great
    Falls, Montana minor-league baseball team claimed to have filmed two UFOs flying over
    the baseball stadium, and the 1952 UFO film taken near the Great Salt Lake in Utah by
    a US Navy photographer, Delbert Newhouse. The documentary concludes with the
    famous 1952 Washington DC UFO incident, in which Albert Chop played a central role.
    The documentary recreates Chop's experiences during the incident, and at the end of
    the documentary Chop states his belief that UFOs are a "real", physical phenomenon of
    unknown origin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_(1956_film)

    Secret Montana & Utah UFO Films sequence from end of above docu - drama



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    On January 7, 1948, a Kentucky Air National Guard pilot met his death trying to intercept a UFO!



    Digging Deeper

    Digging deeper, we find another well documented close encounter, this time of the
    deadly kind.Captain Tom Mantell flying his P-51 Mustang was a World War II veteran,
    not a civilian or some rookie. Mantell and 3 other Mustang pilots were directed to
    intercept a huge round white object, perhaps a football field across! Multiple witnesses
    from spots in Ohio and Kentucky, including a sergeant at the Fort Knox control tower
    and members of the Kentucky Highway Patrol, had reported the sighting to military air control.

    When the others fighter planes turned away from the pursuit due to low fuel or low
    oxygen (needed for altitudes over 20,000 feet), Mantell continued to climb after the
    object, describing it as of tremendous size. (Air traffic controllers who heard him are in
    disagreement about his actual wording.)Mantell’s fighter then began an uncontrolled
    spin all the way back to the ground where it crashed, killing the pilot. The most likely
    reason for the crash is that Mantell passed out from lack of oxygen, but nobody knows
    for sure.

    Since this incident was witnessed by so many credible people, including military pilots,
    military personnel on the ground and Highway Patrol personnel and since it ultimately
    resulted in the loss of a fighter plane and its pilot, this encounter changed the public’s
    perception of UFO reports. It was far from being an isolated report from a shady
    source, and the shocked public was forced to take it seriously as a result. From that
    point on, the public has keenly followed every report of a UFO or other alien encounter.

    Numerous associations, clubs and individuals catalog and report on every incident they
    come across, from what allegedly occurred at Rendlesham Forest in 1980 to the alleged
    UFO sightings in New York City in 2010. Collectively, these incidents continue to
    provide a rich source of stories for enthusiasts. This is all largely possibly due to this
    early incident with the P-51 Mustang. Even the forerunners to Project Blue Book were
    Incepted around this same time.

    http://www.historyandheadlines.com/j...ilot-shot-ufo/

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    Captain Thomas Mantell UFO Encounter


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    the mantell UFO incident




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    General Sanford - UFOs appeared over Capitol secured area 1952



    Flying Saucer Statements 1952 USAF Intelligence Chief Major General John
    Samford & Donald Kehoe



    Aprox 1 min in above report Gen Sandford says " In pursuit of this obligation since
    1947 we have received and analysed between 1 - 2,000 reports ....."

    Although Roswell is not mentioned , the year is very significant in UFO lore, and in
    the docu - drama Gen Remy is briefly mentioned , he did have a major role in
    burying the Roswell incident after the initial press release. It is possible that this
    movie was seen as a diversion from the more important incidents at the time , so
    may of unwittingly been helpful in the overall cover up ?? ( Just speculating )

    The Smoking Gun Of Roswell - The Ramey Memo




    Published on 18 Feb 2014

    Two TV clips showing arguably the most convincing evidence to date of a UFO crash
    and cover-up at Roswell in 1947.

    Clip 1: From the documentary "The Roswell Crash: Startling New Evidence" as seen
    on the SciFi Channel (2002).
    Clip 2: From the documentary "Conspiracy Files: Mystery At Roswell" as seen on
    Discovery Civilisation (2006).
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    Default Re: UFOs The True Story of Flying Saucers Docu - Drama released 1956 // Capt. Mantell Related material

    Some of these old interviews and reports are important for an overall UFO picture imo....

    Mike Wallace's Interview With Donald Keyhoe 1958, UFO's Are Real (Full Int' )
    The host is pretty sceptical in this show but interesting imo. Aprox 23mins in
    Major Keyhole says in anwer to a question. " We expect to have a base on the
    moon within the next five years". wishfull speculation of the time but would
    of meant a moon base around 1962/3 period. 'Secret Space programme'
    anyone ? lol . I know it could be coincidence , but listening to Kerrys interview
    with Mike Sparks earlier , dots are possibly connecting more and more . Funnily
    enough it was on the U'tube link of one of the vids I posted on that thread that
    I saw the link to The True Story of Flying Sources, coincidence ? or synchronicity ? ..LOL

    Has NASA been hiding a secret BLACK SPACE PROGRAM using more efficient
    anti-gravity craft all along?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ect-Camelot-TV
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    Mike Wallace's Interview With Donald Keyhoe 1958, UFO's Are Real


    8th March 1958, an interview on the topic of UFO and cover up.
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    Default Re: UFOs The True Story of Flying Saucers Docu - Drama released 1956 // Capt. Mantell Related material

    Gordon Creighton was one early investigators of UFOs. He was an editor of Flying Saucer Review magazine out of the UK. Here is a short early video of his years of analysis. Its a very revealing synopsis of his study on the topic (only 10 mins long). There are others but I'll you have fun finding them ! Look for the bespectacled gentleman in a suit as for some reason my computer or probably operator error won't let me take you right to him ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kbLqeim90

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    Ret Airforce Col Wendelle Stevens comments on Project Sign at
    the end of vid, it starts with ufo evaluations courtesy Peter J. Heppa ,
    concerning activity in Danish air space ,and then Bob Dean talking
    about NATO's involvement with UFO's.



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    Project Grudge: The Tip of the Iceberg



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    Quote Gordon Creighton was one early investigators of UFOs. He was an editor of Flying Saucer
    Review magazine out of the UK. Here is a short early video of his years of analysis. Its a very
    revealing synopsis of his study on the topic (only 10 mins long). There are others but I'll you have
    fun finding them ! Look for the bespectacled gentleman in a suit as for some reason my computer
    or probably operator error won't let me take you right to him !
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kbLqeim90
    Thanks I2prideaux interesting segment , Its very probable human Atomic & nuclear
    activity has worried some ET's or interdimensionals into monitoring and maybe
    interfering with missile sites etc which have been reported. This led me to look for
    the full doc from 1977 , the parts should run insequence....

    UFOs - Out Of This World - Classic BBC TV Documentary pt1/6




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    A later interview on the same U'tube link ......

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    [UFO Investigation] Flying Saucers Are Real, Audiobook by Donald Keyhoe



    Published on 16 Feb 2014


    The Flying Saucers are Real is a book that investigates numerous encounters between
    USAF fighters, personnel, and other aircraft, and UFOs between 1947 and 1950. Keyhoe
    contended that the Air Force was actively investigating these cases of close encounter,
    with a policy of concealing their existence from the public until 1949. He stated that this
    policy was then replaced by one of cautious, progressive revelation. Keyhoe further stated
    that Earth had been visited by extraterrestrials for two centuries, with the frequency of
    these visits increasing sharply after the first atomic weapon test in 1945. Citing anecdotal
    evidence, he intimated the Air Force may have attained and adapted some aspect of the
    alien technology: its method of propulsion and perhaps its source of power. He believed
    the Air Force or the US Government would eventually reveal these technologies to the
    public when the Soviet Union was no longer a threat. Donald E. Keyhoe, who relates here
    his investigation of the flying saucers, writes with twenty-five years of experience in
    observing aeronautical developments. He is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy at
    Annapolis. He flew in active service with the Marine Corps, managed the tour of the historic
    plane in which Bennett and Byrd made their North Pole flight, was aide to Charles Lindbergh
    after the famous Paris flight, and was chief of information for the Aeronautics Branch,
    Department of Commerce. (Summary by Roger Melin)
    [UFO Investigation] Flying Saucers Are Real, Audiobook by Donald Keyhoe

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    Project Blue Book: An Insider Speaks -- Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin, Esq.



    Published on 30 Sep 2013


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    Brigadier General Lovekin entered the military in 1958. In 1959 he joined the
    White House Army Signaling Agency and served under President Eisenhower
    and then under President Kennedy with an above top secret clearance. He was
    familiar with Project Blue Book and related how that project documented highly
    scientific and specific UFO cases from very reliable sources. They reviewed
    photos taken from Air Force pilots, Marine Air Corps pilots and some foreign
    pilots and multiple reports of radar lock-ons. He was also shown a piece of
    metallic debris taken from the Roswell crash. While working under President
    Eisenhower, he discovered that Eisenhower had a keen interest in UFO's, but
    that Eisenhower came to realize that he had lost control of the subject.

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