Shane/The Ruiner's new interview with Thomas Williams, 15 Sept 2015

[Billy]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

There was an off planet intrusion into the evolution of the indigenous beings on planet earth, many thousands of years ago. These beings brought technologies we did not have at the time. They mated with the indigenous peoples and developed a hybrid race. So while they mated with the indigenous peoples, they also furthered a leap in our evolution.

Whether we consented to this or not, we participated. What we have now is a hybrid race where all of us carry the DNA of these interlopers, as well as having benefited from the additional technologies which they brought.

They claimed a divine right to rule over us. Their divine right as parents is because we came forth from the mating of the indigenous with these interlopers, and we have benefited from this incestuous relationship and the technologies, and we have not rebutted it. We have acquiesced to it through supporting this system, so in essence, we are in agreement with it.

Now, you might still say we did not receive full disclosure, so therefore the agreement is null and void? Well, it becomes null and void when you rebut it energetically and quit supporting it, quit drawing the benefits and privileges from this incestuous relationship, and stand sovereign, self responsible and self actualized. You do this with every thought and every action every day.

Thank you for this gripreaper.

I have always had a problem with agreements, oaths or contracts that have been created in our distant past between our forefathers and other beings. Not just our distant past, as i include modern day agreements made between certain shadow governments and other beings. My opinion is that those agreements have held humanity in bondage and have limited our true potential.

When sharing his take on humanities history, Shane has said that after the Atlantean times, there was an agreement made between the Humans and the Draco with the Elders being the overseers of this agreement. He said the Elders advised against this agreement but they went ahead. After this contract was agreed the parents were created to implement the agreement.
(Please correct me if i am not correct here Shane)

We are told from one of the parents, Cassandra, who said in her letter to Shane, before she decided to leave her earthy existence.

You've damn near voided your agreement with us by inspiring this fiasco so tread carefully.

I am still not sure if this statement was directed at Shane personally or if it included those whom his Blog was originally intended for, or did it include all those who would like to see an end to the controllers hold over humanity, to bring about changes with all previous agreements null and void. My thoughts are, that the parents can call this inspiration for change, a fiasco, if they wish.
I say whoever it was directed at. Well done


In the recent Thomas Williams interview, Shane said he was present at a meeting earlier this year with some humans, all the parents apart from one, the Draco king Anu, his two sons, i cannot remember just now if he said there were elders present also. But Shane did say that the Elders were not active and their observation of the agreement has no effect.

At this meeting Anu declared that he had a change of mind and was no longer supporting the plan????? did Anu not just break the agreement?????? Making it now null and void ?????? one son also agreed with his fathers decision and now does not support the agreement and the other son decided to attempt to continue on with a now, broken agreement. Dysfunctional families or what. As above so below.

I do believe deep inside that, as above so below means something much more and much better than all this drama.

We are told, After the meeting some of the parents chose to also not continue with the agreement and left their earthly abode, I say, Journey well.
More followed over a few months, Journey well.
Again does that not make the agreement null and void ?
This left three parents who chose to continue with a now broken agreement. Journey well. Hopefully you will follow those who have gone before you.
May you find your way home back to source, where you meet all that is that also created the ones who created you, May our Mother embrace you all as long lost children.

I do understand there is much more for us to do but if what Shane says is a truth, should Humanity not be breathing a great sigh of relief at this time?

I have concerns that this drama may be giving humanity a false sense of hope yet again, Hopefully Shane can address this in more detail in the near future.

I thank Shane for his consistency over the years, his love for mother earth and humanity, his gentleness and bravery.


May we all find peace on earth.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by turiya (here)

Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy were both told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but was fed that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing. Source found here.

I confirm that.

(Note: I was told this personally, btw, in 2010. Kerry was not there at that time.)

A clarification, however. It's not that Sitchin didn't translate anything. He did know Sumerian, and he wasn't just taking dictation.

But when translating an ancient text, there are so many nuances and unknowns that each time he encountered something that wasn't very clear, or in which the context was ambiguous, that's when he got his 'interpretative advice'.

In my own words: Sitchin took the original text, did the best academic translation he could, and then it was 'spun'.

This doesn't imply any deception on Sitchin's part. I believe he felt he was being 'assisted'. But in my very strong personal opinion, not everything in Sitchin's books can be taken as factual.

[turiya]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by turiya (here)

Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy were both told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but was fed that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing. Source found here.

I confirm that.

(Note: I was told this personally, btw, in 2010. Kerry was not there at that time.)

A clarification, however. It's not that Sitchin didn't translate anything. He did know Sumerian, and he wasn't just taking dictation.

But when translating an ancient text, there are so many nuances and unknowns that each time he encountered something that wasn't very clear, or in which the context was ambiguous, that's when he got his 'interpretative advice'.

In my own words: Sitchin took the original text, did the best academic translation he could, and then it was 'spun'.

This doesn't imply any deception on Sitchin's part. I believe he felt he was being 'assisted'. But in my very strong personal opinion, not everything in Sitchin's books can be taken as factual.

Thanks, Bill, for that clarification.

I used the phrase, "the Annunaki Fantasy story" as it is used in the Chris Thomas' books & essay material. He also agrees with you as far as Zecharia Sitchin being as true as you say.

This particular phrase was used, because through his research, he found that it was a small group of Annunaki that had traveled back in time to dictate a fictitious story, regarding human history (the Annunaki being the creator gods of humanity). The story was dictated to a Sumerian scribe who placed it within the cuneiform tablets. It was during the time that Chris Thomas did psychic healing work and a man came to him with some particular health issues & inability to sleep, as it appeared he was haunted with visions & a memory of what he was a part of in a past life.

Chris has the ability to scan the DNA of individuals. From there, he discovered that this particular client was an Annunaki (in past life) that had traveled back in time as one member of this Annunaki group. It was by sheer coincidence (if there really are any) that led him to stumble upon this particular event. He used the information about his client to do further research on the matter - the Annunaki traveling back in time to "plant" this particular "fantasy story". Hence, he has used the phrase "The Annunaki Fantasy story" in the writings of his research of the Akashic. It had nothing negative to do with Zecharia Sitchin.

Chris Thomas has always spoken well of Zecharia Sitchin.

[awakeningmom]

The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

[ulli]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

Good point here.
Once most people know How far the deception layers reach then nothing remains other than the question how do we now proceed to build a better world, given the fact that together we can pool our various talents and energies.

[Delight]

Posted by ulli (here)
........... nothing remains other than the question how do we now proceed to build a better world, given the fact that together we can pool our various talents and energies.

YES. There are no ones I'd rather proceed to build and pool talents and energies and live with than people like us: We: the wonderful new story creators.

"There is a vast territory between what we're trying to leave behind, and where we want to go - and we don't have any maps for that territory." - Charles Eisenstein

Filmed in the fading light on the shores of Northern Scotland, this short film captures Charles Eisenstein in a moment of grief and reflection. The familiar story of the past is crumbling, while the new story has yet to arrive. In a time of social and ecological crisis, what can we as individuals do in this space between?

An African proverb states "sometimes you must get lost in order to find your way." Eisenstein invites us to embrace a radically different understanding of cause and effect, sounding a clarion call to surrender our old worldview of separation, so that we can finally create the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_oevXkJY-fE

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

I have given up on my search for truth and I am now looking for a good fantasy.

[Delight]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)

I have given up on my search for truth and I am now looking for a good fantasy.

I know that many could argue that there is not enough action in a chick flick but that is what I am writing for my fantasy!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t8uzwjHW1uo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0xYnfVYZKKM

[turiya]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

That's right 'mom'. Until you & the rest of us are fully awakened beings, then the story will be just that - a story. So, don't 'believe' in what anybody says. This is even what the awakened ones have said... Buddha himself has said it, "if you meet me on the road, then cut my head." Means, don't even 'believe' in what he says, trusting in oneself is all that is needed.

[johnh]

Men have a tendency to please their women. You know, the house is never big enough, her clothes are out of fashion, she never gets to vacation in the Bahamas. He just doesn't make enough money, so get out there and do whatever it takes, honey, including starting a war or two (and you know what you might get tonight if you clean out the garage). Oh yes, the divine women, where are they? In the plans of the Tavistock Institute then in the media complete with spokes persons well groomed.

So, the illuminati have taken us to the divine feminine. Steered us cleverly. And there goes the core family with it since it takes a village and all. Even this thread had to end up here. Muddy the water enough (chaos) and encourage/direct the solution.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by johnh (here)
Men have a tendency to please their women. You know, the house is never big enough, her clothes are out of fashion, she never gets to vacation in the Bahamas. He just doesn't make enough money, so get out there and do whatever it takes, honey, including starting a war or two (and you know what you might get tonight if you clean out the garage). Oh yes, the divine women, where are they? In the plans of the Tavistock Institute then in the media complete with spokes persons well groomed.

So, the illuminati have taken us to the divine feminine. Steered us cleverly. And there goes the core family with it since it takes a village and all. Even this thread had to end up here. Muddy the water enough (chaos) and encourage/direct the solution.

The divine feminine and divine masculine energies coexist in all of life, both male and female but are rarely balanced. IMHO, one of the reasons we are here is to seek balance.

The currently dominant male warrior energy needs to give way to the feminine energies of respect for life, compassion, intuition and nurturing.

Females are the givers of life, and that must be very special.

[Callista]

My small offering recently published on Zen Gardner might be relevant here:


The Confusion of Deconstruction

by Callista Summerfield-Berlinghof

Guest Contributor, ZenGardner.com

I thought I should call this piece “The Dilemma of the Fence Sitter” but the difference between a fence-sitter and what I am experiencing is something else. The fence-sitter weighs up the conditions on both sides of the fence and then makes a choice. My position is that of getting to the fence, sitting on the fence, and realizing that what is behind me no longer has a place in my reality.

“I look to the familiar and all I see is chaos and confusion.”

“I don’t like seeing the familiar deconstruct before my eyes.”

“If my familiar is no longer acceptable to me, where is my new familiar?”

I sit on the fence and peer into the unknown, hoping for something that will materialize that I can recognize.

“How do I imaginate a new familiar?”

I want to rebel against everything familiar because it has become foreign to me. The rebelling is a useful device for breaking away from the old. Rebellious rage enables revolution.

I sit on the fence in boiling revolution, knowing that even if I THINK about the old familiar, I will turn into a pillar of salt from sheer boredom.

There’s no looking back…

_____

[Leon Kovalyov]

Greeting good people, I would like to share with all of you a path away from trans-humanism and back to nature, which the Ruiner spoke of. It was communicated through a series of books called the Ringing Cedars. Ancient Vedic knowledge preserved and written about in a series of 9 books translated from Russian into English.

These books have inspired hundreds of villages all across Russian and other countries...of people coming together and forming kin domains and their spaces of love.

These are similar to eco-villages but different/not communal in a sense, but like homesteading which was occurring in united states in the 19th century. There is magic in these books, which will spark a flame that will not be put out.
So much knowledge preserved from rearing children to aliens, to growing food, to teleportation, to finding out who we are and who our ancestors were....
I cried, laughed and have not been the same ever since. Truly the best I have seen. I hope you all take the time to

You may find these at the following location and I on occassion I have also seen them at some Barnes and Nobles stores. There are excerpts of some chapters online as well.
www.ringingcedars.com

OneLove, Leon

[Realeyes]

Thanks to Chloe (who is Thomas' partner) she has hand typed up the entire interview with Shane and Thomas. You can download the pdf for free on this link.

https://yadi.sk/i/YY86AvyZjEfwQ

[Shannon]

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

That's right 'mom'. Until you & the rest of us are fully awakened beings, then the story will be just that - a story. So, don't 'believe' in what anybody says. This is even what the awakened ones have said... Buddha himself has said it, "if you meet me on the road, then cut my head." Means, don't even 'believe' in what he says, trusting in oneself is all that is needed.

So true. Thanks for bringing that Buddha quote up.

I find all of this so interesting and fascinating that I can't help myself but want to read and hear and see whatever I can get my hands but I have to remind myself to stop wanting to believe this or that, I have to remind myself that all these stories are just that stories and I will not know what is real and true unless I look inside myself.
Thank you.