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    Default Re: PHENOMENAL report by Corey; Part 1 (Part 2 coming) ... "Honeycomb Earth"

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    That's the actual risk that genuine whistleblowers always face: they're regarded as problems, and the problems have to be made to go away. Real whistleblowers are leaned on, threatened, bribed, punished, or in some cases, killed.
    • They are NOT rewarded and left alone.
    • They do NOT go on TV with their own co-hosted show.
    • They do NOT receive the proceeds from online stores selling trinkets, souvenirs, and promotional memorabilia.
    Here's the thought experiment to compare.

    Imagine Ed Snowden peacefully living with his partner in the US, appearing on a weekly TV show, and receiving income from a gift store selling key rings and coffee cups with "You no longer have any privacy" written on them.

    That thought says quite a lot.

    All good points, Bill. I tend to agree.

    But I was wondering why someone like David Icke is left alone. He names names. Lots. He wrote a whole book about the moon. He tours the world spreading his message. Why do you think he hasn't been killed or maimed?
    While you wait to hear from Bill, my guess-ta-mations are:
    • David Icke burns off the trial(s) by fire as he walks his life’s mission
    • his vibrational frequencies shields the BS
    • he gets some loving zaps from his family group
    • it’s not his karmic script
    • it’s not part of his belief system
    This video comes to mind:

    Click here: Transcript, MP3 audio, MP4 audio

    David Icke: “…And the more you expand your consciousness and awareness to understand that that is what we are, the more your point of observation goes from the size of a pea – I am Ethel Jones, I am a reptilian and I need to manipulate people – to I am all that is, having an experience. And I can have this experience but I know what is having the experience. I’ve not fallen for the illusion that I am the experience. These reptilian entities think that they are their experience, that’s why they’re so limited and rather pathetic. They have manipulated humanity to believe they are their experience.

    What is happening as this epoch change goes on, is more and more people are remembering that they’re not their experience, that they are having an experience but what they are is something different. And as that shift takes place, there is a massive energetic shift takes place, and the ability of that level of awareness – the controlling system up to this point – to go on controlling... house of cards is over. It’s gone, it’s gone. Can’t do it any more. And that’s what we’re experiencing. “

    David Icke - HUMAN RACE, GET OFF YOUR KNEES : A Project Avalon Interview with Bill Ryan

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    That's one of my favorite Icke interviews, Paula. Thanks!

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    Quote Posted by Mike
    But I was wondering why someone like David Icke is left alone. He names names. Lots. He wrote a whole book about the moon. He tours the world spreading his message. Why do you think he hasn't been killed or maimed?
    Just did a YouTube search and found this video where the guy answers your question from his own perspective and what he has heard specifically in regards to D. Icke and what Icke has said in response to this same question. He shares a strange dream he had first, then gets into Icke's protection at about the 8 1/2 minute mark.

    I am also leaning towards the possibility that there could be extraordinarily advanced and benevolent beings/ETs that are overseeing our development here on the planet, who are fully aware of everything taking place here... and that they will protect those who have 'special missions' to carry out for the 'greater good' of All.

    It may sound rather far-fetched... but the Universe/Creation is very 'far-reaching'... and if we expand our mental 'thinking-boxes' out a bit... the possibility seems quite probable to me. If there are some very powerful and negative beings/ETs, then shouldn't there also be some very powerfully positive ones as well??

    (Excellent question, by the way... Mike)
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    Quote I am also leaning towards the possibility that there could be extraordinarily advanced and benevolent beings/ETs that are overseeing our development here on the planet, who are fully aware of everything taking place here... and that they will protect those who have 'special missions' to carry out for the 'greater good' of All.
    There is a balance of forces. Everyone gets a say, and humanity gets to choose. It's part of the rules.

    Some people have protection. Most of us on this forum will have guards. I think Corey is lying, but "They" are not all powerful, and don't have the ability to go shutting everyone down. It's not correct to say of every truth teller "if he was for real, he would've been killed by now." - this is faulty logic that presupposes an all powerful establishment, when really the cabal in 2015 is bumbling rearguard of confused old men. If you want to see the face of the NWO today, look at the Pope. A shuffling, stooped old man on his last legs. I am not saying it will be easy to clear them off planet, it may take many years, but they are on the back foot.

    Look at Jade Helm. It was a complete lie.

    Both the imminent doom and imminent ascension crowd are misleading us. There is work to do.

    P.S. Much of Corey's writing may ring true, because it is data mined from legit sources.

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    Default Re: PHENOMENAL report by Corey; Part 1 (Part 2 coming) ... "Honeycomb Earth"

    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    Quote I am also leaning towards the possibility that there could be extraordinarily advanced and benevolent beings/ETs that are overseeing our development here on the planet, who are fully aware of everything taking place here... and that they will protect those who have 'special missions' to carry out for the 'greater good' of All.
    There is a balance of forces. Everyone gets a say, and humanity gets to choose. It's part of the rules.

    Some people have protection. Most of us on this forum will have guards. I think Corey is lying, but "They" are not all powerful, and don't have the ability to go shutting everyone down. It's not correct to say of every truth teller "if he was for real, he would've been killed by now." - this is faulty logic that presupposes an all powerful establishment, when really the cabal in 2015 is bumbling rearguard of confused old men. If you want to see the face of the NWO today, look at the Pope. A shuffling, stooped old man on his last legs. I am not saying it will be easy to clear them off planet, it may take many years, but they are on the back foot.

    Look at Jade Helm. It was a complete lie.

    Both the imminent doom and imminent ascension crowd are misleading us. There is work to do.

    P.S. Much of Corey's writing may ring true, because it is data mined from legit sources.

    i'd prefer to agree with you both, but i can't.

    if some kind of supernatural protection is available for the "good guys", why is Jon Danner dead? if the NWO is on the ropes, getting peppered with punches, who is at Jay Weidner's door, threatening his life over a bloody moon book?

    i agree that we attribute too much power to the nwo, illuminatti..whatever. they're much more disorganized and lacking in collegiality than i think most of us imagine. thats where compartmentalization will backfire.

    i don't judge my whistleblowers by how many threats they've received. but here we have this situation where some brave souls are getting threatened or killed...while others are seemingly being allowed to say same or similar things without suffering a scratch.

    why?

    i dont assume the NWO's omnipotence - i agree that its a mistake to do so - but omnipotence isnt required to murder someone. all you need is a plane ticket and a gun.

    i don't totally discount the idea of ET or divine protection...but from where i'm sitting it seems like an awfully arbitrary selection process (who do we protect, and who do we let flounder?). and even those who are being supernaturally guarded somehow, or believe themselves to be..i cant help but wonder if they'll still "trust the universe" when theres a gun barrel to their head..know what i mean? ive had a gun pointed right in my belly and i didnt trust anyone or anything at that point to save me. i was quite certain i was f#cked...and even tho i felt a strange peace, i still had time to regret everything i said that led up to that point

    here's the thing: i have no idea who jon danner is? or jay weidner. i reckon most people in the alt field don't. even if what they were preparing to say was revelatory, im not sure who'd hear about it. and even if they did say it, and people did hear it, how would they know it was any more accurate than whistleblower x's testimony? or whistleblower y? and even if they said it, and many heard it, and a large percentage of us believed it and deemed it more valuable than whistleblower x and y's testimony..how would that change anything for the so called controllers??? it never has before. the alt field is loaded with such extravagance and muddiness that the new info would simply blend in and be forgotten..just like all the rest. and yet, here we have 1 murder and 1 serious threat. it just doesnt make sense to me.

    besides, its not like our discernment as a group is all that impressive - theres a large group of folks who still believe what Corey is saying even tho its clear that its all utter bullsh!t. i cant understand why "they" would feel threatened at all..let alone threatened enough to murder. and yet it appears they do.. and not the big dogs like Icke who are making the most noise, but the obscure guys we've never heard of ..and for reasons that just dont seem to stand up to logic.

    why?

    i dunno..i'm kinda lost
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    Blue Avian and the Aviary

    The Aviary is a group from back in the 50's that did work with and NOTE: Stanford Research Institute and the Edgar Casey Foundation.

    From the 50's & 60's...do you think they just quite the research?

    Note these three videos and see the connection to the Blue Avian Meme...Evolved and going strong.







    Andrija Puharich

    In 1947, Puharich graduated from the Northwestern University School of Medicine. His residency was completed at Permanente Hospital in California, where he specialized in Internal Medicine. Puharich was a U.S. Army officer in the early 1950s. During that time, he was in and out of Edgewood Arsenal Research Laboratories and Camp Detrick, meeting with various high-ranking officers and officials, primarily from the Pentagon, CIA, and Naval Intelligence.

    LAW OF ONE On Andrija Puharich:





    http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=People

    The Aviary:

    (Scroll down to SRI - Stanford Research Institute)

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...fo/places.html


    Corey Reaction to me upon my suggestion that this might be part of the Meme:



    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post950670

    Whoa...Did I hit a nerve with my Goode?

    In the videos I just produced and in the links provided are many clues to this connection to Avian and Aviary which are too closely connected NOT TO look at when watching the David and Corey show that is being presented.


    Oh yeah....IMHO...LOL
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    Oh yeah...The nine:

    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...ne_fortean.htm
    Quote Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes. even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel. Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotised them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.

    The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)

    i have no idea who jon danner is? or jay weidner.

    Jon Danner
    is this man... I wrote about him here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ner#post983917

    He was also Camelot's 'Mr X' — a genuine whistleblower. In a Top Secret project lasting 6 months, he had had daily hands-on access to military UFO documents, images videos, and artifacts.
    http://projectcamelot.org/mr_x.html

    He became a personal friend, and was a delightful man. He was murdered shortly after he had asked Kerry and I to read an audio message recorded by him, at a UFO conference, stating that he was planning on 'coming out' and speaking in public himself in the following months.



    There's nothing to be confused about. As I mentioned earlier, in my post #6, real whistleblowers are leaned on, threatened, bribed, punished, or in some cases, killed.

    (David Icke is not one, by the way, although I'm sure he's a significant irritant. That is, he's not breaking any security oath... he's a researcher and journalist, and his information, though likely accurate and very detailed, is not first-hand.)

    Jay Weidner is this man: http://jayweidner.com.
    I interviewed him a couple of days ago (it's a good one, to be published very soon). Besides quite a lot else, Jay is well-known for establishing beyond all reasonable doubt that it was Stanley Kubrick who created the fake Apollo moon landing images and video.

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    I've had a fascination with Jay Weidner's conclusions since I first began listening to him on the old Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. Jay has an excellent perspective on what's happening on the Moon, one that aligns with my understanding that it's a part of a Soul Harvesting operation.

    I regularly quote parts of his interviews on all sorts of diverse subjects that all show a synchronous sequence of events, rather than a chaotic chain of coincidences.

    Jay is definitely the man!

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    There comes a point within any secrete which is the letting of at-least one person spout, even if its all true spout and then cover it/him/her with the statement

    'If it was true then he/her would have been drooped off in a deserted field far away and from a great height'

    That way any truth could be a non truth, any non truth a truth.

    Hidden science going back to the 20/30's etc, then I believe far, far, far into pre-history is hidden science's

    Ball of confusion, ball of tangled lies our so called leaders and establishments have woven us into!
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
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    Quote Posted by Shadowself (here)
    Blue Avian and the Aviary

    The Aviary is a group from back in the 50's that did work with and NOTE: Stanford Research Institute and the Edgar Casey Foundation.

    From the 50's & 60's...do you think they just quite the research?

    Note these three videos and see the connection to the Blue Avian Meme...Evolved and going strong.







    Andrija Puharich

    In 1947, Puharich graduated from the Northwestern University School of Medicine. His residency was completed at Permanente Hospital in California, where he specialized in Internal Medicine. Puharich was a U.S. Army officer in the early 1950s. During that time, he was in and out of Edgewood Arsenal Research Laboratories and Camp Detrick, meeting with various high-ranking officers and officials, primarily from the Pentagon, CIA, and Naval Intelligence.

    LAW OF ONE On Andrija Puharich:





    http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=People

    The Aviary:

    (Scroll down to SRI - Stanford Research Institute)

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...fo/places.html


    Corey Reaction to me upon my suggestion that this might be part of the Meme:



    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post950670

    Whoa...Did I hit a nerve with my Goode?

    In the videos I just produced and in the links provided are many clues to this connection to Avian and Aviary which are too closely connected NOT TO look at when watching the David and Corey show that is being presented.


    Oh yeah....IMHO...LOL
    Thank you for the info rich post

    Yeah, mr good et (I'm sorry but that handle kills me), basically said in his little post there that any question of his sources or info put out about his "story" is negating the message of the sphere being alliance. Isn't that what cults leaders say to their followers? Don't question this info or you're an enemy to our mission! Jeez...idk about this good et guy.

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    To answer Mike's question, I would say that nothing much stands up to logic precisely because it's designed to look and be that way, at least to some extent, though there are other reasons, as well.
    We have been told by various sources (comparatively reliable ones, I would say) the reason that whistleblowers are "allowed" to leak information is because it's part of the Cabal's game plan to give us certain information about what they are doing (which of course, most won't believe and/or are helpless to do much about).
    And that is because in their minds, because we fail so often to act on such information, they are therefore absolved of any wrong doing, apparently because we are just too stupid or worthless to act on our own behalf.
    And what does get out to the public in the form of whistleblower info is often scary as hell, and we know how they love to keep us in fear.
    This may not be in accord with Universal Law (if there really is such a thing), but apparently it has enabled them to at least continue acting with some impunity, without enough karmic repercussions to stop them, for a long, long time.
    (But hopefully not forever!)
    And since they are impelled by their own internal sense of fair play (if it can be called that) to reveal certain information about their doings, then it's to their advantage to dress that info up in a certain amount of disinformation to make the real facts look doubtful, and to cause as much confusion as possible by releasing lots of conflicting information as well.
    And to hire a bunch of stooges, shills, trolls, false flag actors and the like to make it all even less credible and believable.

    There are different factions in the Cabal as well, so to expect their actions to be consistent may not be realistic.
    Some factions may be all for assassinating a whistleblower the minute they make a peep, while others may be against such obvious tactics, and so dissension in their ranks is probably not unheard of, and possibly the reason why some whistleblowers survive and others don't.
    And some of those whistleblowers may be receiving protection from some factions or possibly from higher sources.
    It makes a kind of twisted sense if you can bend your mind enough, though I admit it's a very uncomfortable kind of mental contortion, and certainly not one we are generally trained by our so-called "education system" to engage in.
    I hope that serves.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    Quote I am also leaning towards the possibility that there could be extraordinarily advanced and benevolent beings/ETs that are overseeing our development here on the planet, who are fully aware of everything taking place here... and that they will protect those who have 'special missions' to carry out for the 'greater good' of All.
    There is a balance of forces. Everyone gets a say, and humanity gets to choose. It's part of the rules.

    Some people have protection. Most of us on this forum will have guards. I think Corey is lying, but "They" are not all powerful, and don't have the ability to go shutting everyone down. It's not correct to say of every truth teller "if he was for real, he would've been killed by now." - this is faulty logic that presupposes an all powerful establishment, when really the cabal in 2015 is bumbling rearguard of confused old men. If you want to see the face of the NWO today, look at the Pope. A shuffling, stooped old man on his last legs. I am not saying it will be easy to clear them off planet, it may take many years, but they are on the back foot.

    Look at Jade Helm. It was a complete lie.

    Both the imminent doom and imminent ascension crowd are misleading us. There is work to do.

    P.S. Much of Corey's writing may ring true, because it is data mined from legit sources.

    i'd prefer to agree with you both, but i can't.

    if some kind of supernatural protection is available for the "good guys", why is Jon Danner dead? if the NWO is on the ropes, getting peppered with punches, who is at Jay Weidner's door, threatening his life over a bloody moon book?

    i agree that we attribute too much power to the nwo, illuminatti..whatever. they're much more disorganized and lacking in collegiality than i think most of us imagine. thats where compartmentalization will backfire.

    i don't judge my whistleblowers by how many threats they've received. but here we have this situation where some brave souls are getting threatened or killed...while others are seemingly being allowed to say same or similar things without suffering a scratch.

    why?

    i dont assume the NWO's omnipotence - i agree that its a mistake to do so - but omnipotence isnt required to murder someone. all you need is a plane ticket and a gun.

    i don't totally discount the idea of ET or divine protection...but from where i'm sitting it seems like an awfully arbitrary selection process (who do we protect, and who do we let flounder?). and even those who are being supernaturally guarded somehow, or believe themselves to be..i cant help but wonder if they'll still "trust the universe" when theres a gun barrel to their head..know what i mean? ive had a gun pointed right in my belly and i didnt trust anyone or anything at that point to save me. i was quite certain i was f#cked...and even tho i felt a strange peace, i still had time to regret everything i said that led up to that point

    here's the thing: i have no idea who jon danner is? or jay weidner. i reckon most people in the alt field don't. even if what they were preparing to say was revelatory, im not sure who'd hear about it. and even if they did say it, and people did hear it, how would they know it was any more accurate than whistleblower x's testimony? or whistleblower y? and even if they said it, and many heard it, and a large percentage of us believed it and deemed it more valuable than whistleblower x and y's testimony..how would that change anything for the so called controllers??? it never has before. the alt field is loaded with such extravagance and muddiness that the new info would simply blend in and be forgotten..just like all the rest. and yet, here we have 1 murder and 1 serious threat. it just doesnt make sense to me.

    besides, its not like our discernment as a group is all that impressive - theres a large group of folks who still believe what Corey is saying even tho its clear that its all utter bullsh!t. i cant understand why "they" would feel threatened at all..let alone threatened enough to murder. and yet it appears they do.. and not the big dogs like Icke who are making the most noise, but the obscure guys we've never heard of ..and for reasons that just dont seem to stand up to logic.

    why?

    i dunno..i'm kinda lost
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    Quote Yeah, mr good et (I'm sorry but that handle kills me), basically said in his little post there that any question of his sources or info put out about his "story" is negating the message of the sphere being alliance. Isn't that what cults leaders say to their followers? Don't question this info or you're an enemy to our mission! Jeez...idk about this good et guy.
    Exactly- 'how dare you question my claims?!' I think your discernment is spot-on.

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    He was also Camelot's 'Mr X' — a genuine whistleblower. In a Top Secret project lasting 6 months, he had had daily hands-on access to military UFO documents, images videos, and artifacts.
    http://projectcamelot.org/mr_x.html

    He became a personal friend, and was a delightful man. He was murdered shortly after he had asked Kerry and I to read an audio message recorded by him, at a UFO conference, stating that he was planning on 'coming out' and speaking in public himself in the following months.



    There's nothing to be confused about. As I mentioned earlier, in my post #6, real whistleblowers are leaned on, threatened, bribed, punished, or in some cases, killed.

    (David Icke is not one, by the way, although I'm sure he's a significant irritant. That is, he's not breaking any security oath... he's a researcher and journalist, and his information, though likely accurate and very detailed, is not first-hand.)

    Jay Weidner is this man: http://jayweidner.com.
    I interviewed him a couple of days ago (it's a good one, to be published very soon). Besides quite a lot else, Jay is well-known for establishing beyond all reasonable doubt that it was Stanley Kubrick who created the fake Apollo moon landing images and video.
    Absolutely god damn right. If a person says something real and direct, they die now. Not tomorrow, not next week or next month, but in a very close now.

    People want real data that they can run around and start fires and direct attacks with and they never seen to believe it when they get it..... and then... they doubt the people who die to get it to them.

    Most times I have to fight told back the bile that comes from the disgust with the people who talk big talk but never move off their ass or their easy chair, and never believe the truth of things.

    Always looking for perfect realities where they don't have to risk themselves.

    Well, I've got news for them.

    They are locked in a burning house and their children are nailed to the floor.


    No one gets out of this life alive..... and if they don't risk themselves.... the best they can expect is that their children might be lucky enough to live a worse life and die a more vicious death than they ever will.
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    10,000 lies cannot stand up to even 1 truth in the end....
    the power the truth can hold and unleash...blend in some love.
    they cant let that go..and when they do it isn't for long.
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    Interesting...
    So if goode is making everything up - he's not a threat and therefore lives
    If goode's information is true but nobody believes him - then he's not much of a threat so he lives
    If goode's information is true, and you can catch him before he leaks then he dies
    If goode's information is true and he leaks - presumably he lives as if you kill him people assume it was true.

    (Not trying to trivialise the seriousness of this or of other people's sacrifices - just trying to follow the logic on this thread).

    Personally I find the Goode information fascinating - and whilst I've certainly no idea if its true, discounting it via a series of logical assertions, rather than a critique of the information provided doesn't really sit well with me.

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    Personally I find the Goode information fascinating - and whilst I've certainly no idea if its true, discounting it via a series of logical assertions, rather than a critique of the information provided doesn't really sit well with me.
    Perhaps that (a series of logical assertions) is not the only reason he's discredited, in the view of some of us.
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    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    Interesting...
    So if goode is making everything up - he's not a threat and therefore lives
    • Yes.
    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    If goode's information is true but nobody believes him - then he's not much of a threat so he lives
    • Well, a lot of people do believe him. (He's supporting his family from this.)
    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    If goode's information is true, and you can catch him before he leaks then he dies
    • Might not be killed. I was once told that there are many less bloody (and newsworthy) ways of 'killing' someone (i.e. killing a leak) than actually murdering someone. Threats, bribes, induced illness, intimidation, deals struck, etc etc.
    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    If goode's information is true and he leaks - presumably he lives as if you kill him people assume it was true.
    • Yes, they'd resort to other more unobvious means. (see above)
    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    (Not trying to trivialise the seriousness of this or of other people's sacrifices - just trying to follow the logic on this thread).
    • Understood.
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    Personally I find the Goode information fascinating - and whilst I've certainly no idea if its true, discounting it via a series of logical assertions, rather than a critique of the information provided doesn't really sit well with me.
    Well — (and this is not a poke or meant as anything unfriendly) — do start critiquing!

    I say that to make the rhetorical point that this is very hard to do, by its very nature: none of this very extreme information can be checked, except against some other whistleblowers who have said some of the same things before.

    If it's been previously reported, then all this might simply be plagiarized. Many people have suggested this (and this is also my view). If it's NEW, unheard-of information, it can't be checked except by the logic of its claims. (Like hundreds of Neptune-sized spheres entering the solar system... nope. That's impossible. But much else is just not possible to evaluate.)

    So that places us somewhat in a bind, where many people are simply taking this information in faith or on trust. That may not be not all that smart or wise. In my opinion, we do also have to look beyond the information itself.

    So besides picking apart the information, I'd suggest there are two valuable ways of adding to the substance of what we know:
    1. Look at Corey's character and personality, and his on-record statements and actions. (This is important. The character of a witness, and whether they have lied or distorted on record in the past, or changed their story or attitude, is important — even in a regular court of law.)
    2. Look at the (in my opinion) ridiculous situation that I parodied in asking people to consider Ed Snowden having his own TV show and selling trinkets to promote the information he was revealing. I repeat: real whistleblowers do NOT get treated as red-carpet celebrities, even if they do live. The insiders would simply never stand for it.
    My own view?

    It's a psy-op, designed (probably largely opportunistically) to
    1. divide the community
    2. test now much nonsense the community will absorb without serious question. (Think about it: this would be useful for them to know.)
    And to some degree it has caused divisions, although almost everyone I know and respect has either decided long ago that this is nonsense — only one researcher (Michael Salla) apart from David Wilcock is taking any of this seriously — or are deciding that for themselves pretty much now, as it becomes clear that one person could not possibly
    1. have experienced and/or
    2. know all this stuff... let alone
    3. have been a chosen representative of the human species in important delegations.
    Corey as a delegate to represent the human race? No. I know this guy. All the forum old-timers do. That's quite impossible.

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    Quote Posted by Xanth (here)
    Interesting...
    So if goode is making everything up - he's not a threat and therefore lives
    My own view?

    It's a psy-op, designed (probably largely opportunistically) to
    1. divide the community
    2. test now much nonsense the community will absorb without serious question. (Think about it: this would be useful for them to know.)
    I lean towards the test theory...however I also propose the 'questions' asked are more important than the information given.

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    Interesting...
    So if goode is making everything up - he's not a threat and therefore lives
    My own view?

    It's a psy-op, designed (probably largely opportunistically) to

    1. divide the community
    2. test now much nonsense the community will absorb without serious question. (Think about it: this would be useful for them to know.)
    I lean towards the test theory...however I also propose the 'questions' asked are more important than the information given.
    I assume by that, you mean testing what questions are asked in response to the information revealed? (Good point, yes)

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