+ Reply to Thread
Page 286 of 573 FirstFirst 1 186 236 276 286 296 336 386 573 LastLast
Results 5,701 to 5,720 of 11452

Thread: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

  1. Link to Post #5701
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi David:

    Imagination managers is a nice term that I had not seen before. Yes, one of my most common remarks on the GCs is that their greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable. Truly, the primary purpose of my work is to make it imaginable. Yes, the masses think whatever the GCs want them to think, herded along like they are. Humanity has largely abdicated its sentience in return for the promise of security, dancing to the GCs' tune, and those fringe voices are, almost without exception, meaningless distractions.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  2. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    David Hughes (25th September 2015), Joseph McAree (26th September 2015), Krishna (25th September 2015)

  3. Link to Post #5702
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    I want to write a post on human progress, what I am attempting, where recent efforts get it right, and where they could reach higher. This won't all be new, but some will be.

    Predation goes way back, to the early days of heterotrophic life, and the Cambrian Explosion is when complex life's arms race began in earnest, as it was eat or be eaten. Life learned to breed to the limits of the energy supply, those with the highest carrying capacity won the evolutionary game, and the losers went extinct, although every species loses, in the end.

    The Cambrian Explosion on land was the Devonian, and as animals dominate in the ocean, plants dominate on land. Trees are Earth's megaflora, and it was nearly 100 million years before fungus learned to digest the lignin in trees. Most of Earths' coal deposits formed during that period when lignin did not rot. When animals migrated to land, plants formed the base of the terrestrial food chain and they developed defensive measures against animals, such as bark and toxins. That dance continued for more than 200 million years before some plants took a different strategy, and instead set out a banquet for animals, and today, flowering plants dominate Earth and have the greatest symbiosis with animals ever.

    Pollen, nectar, seeds, and fruit form the base of the most productive terrestrial complex ecosystems, along with a relative newcomer, grass, most of which is adapted to the reduced carbon dioxide concentrations in Earth's atmosphere, which is why we are in an Icehouse Earth phase. Primates are adapted to tree life, and higher primates are all fruit-eaters. Higher primates are almost all intensely social animals, and humans are no exception. In fact, a leading hypothesis for the development of our large brains was so that we could navigate our large and complex societies, and gossip replaced grooming as the social glue.

    Monkeys are matrilocal, but gorillas and chimps became patrilocal, and violent male rule was the norm. Chimps are even genocidal, and that heritage is deeply reflected in human societies. Males killing infants they did not father is even seen in human societies today. But violent male rule was not always the case, and when bonobos had their food supply double when gorillas left the region, females and non-dominant males ended the practice of violent male gang dominance. After all of Earth's easy meat had been driven to extinction, in a few places, women were able to domesticate plants, those societies often became matrilocal, broke up the violent male gangs, and those are humanity's most peaceful pre-industrialized societies. Pristine civilizations all formed peacefully, but men rose to prominence, societies became violent again, and women's status declined and did not rise again until industrialization.

    The lethal societal politics that characterized monkeys and apes was taken to more sophisticated extremes in human societies, but males killing infants in order to mate with the mothers is thankfully not one of humanity's practices, so there has been what I think we would all call "progress." When the rise of women's status because of their caloric contribution broke up male gangs, and those societies became relatively peaceful, I think that we would all call that progress. Our so-called civilizations were extremely brutal in their early days, after the golden age was over and people began fighting over dwindling resources, energy resources most of all, as always. The laws of the day reflected that brutality. In the greatest ancient empire, people were forced to murder each other for entertainment purposes, of all things. The rise of Christianity is credited with ending that institution, but Christians are history's most murderous people, and this week, a genocidal priest was named a saint, in the West's curious notions of "progress." So, human "progress" has been a fitful thing, and that we canonize genocidists is a mark of how primitive humanity still is.

    The rise in standards of living that industrialization provided was a great engine of "progress," although again that is relative. Slavery was made economically obsolete by industrialization, and ended. The early days of industrialization also saw a rise in child labor, so the "progress" was fitful. Industrialization also enabled Europe's bloody conquest of humanity, which was an unprecedented catastrophe for many of the world's peoples. Humanity is quickly making Earth uninhabitable, so the entire human journey can be questioned, as far as how "progressive" any of it is.

    I was born and raised in the most prosperous era of history's richest and most powerful nation, and I appreciate the benefits that it provided. I have seen what relative affluence can do, and I have seen the grind of poverty. I know which I prefer, and what seems most "progressive." The energy crisis of the easy meat being rendered extinct led to domestication, and the energy crisis of deforestation led England to turn to coal, which ignited the Industrial Revolution. Even with all of the scarcity, brutality, and fear, rising energy surpluses generally meant more humane conditions. In hunter-gatherer societies, once the golden age was over, strange men were killed on sight, no questions asked. Proportionally, hunter-gatherer societies are the human journey's most violent. When industrialization began, so began the demographic transition, and nobody from an agrarian society who gets a taste of industrialized civilization's benefits wants to go back.

    The rise of capitalism was another way to exploit the people doing the work, but all members of industrial civilization rode those energy slaves to standards of living that were simply unimaginable in the earlier Epoch. Just in my lifetime, scarcity-based ideologies such as racism and sexism have been under siege and are greatly muted from what they were in my childhood. Industrial societies are far more humane than they used to be, although today's version of Rome, the USA, still has barbarous institutions such as the murder of prisoners, even executed juveniles until recently, and genocidally invades nations that have something we want, such as oil.

    But from that imperial juggernaut came the technology that I am using to publish this morning's writings to the world, and history's most affluent civilization is responsible for the high-tech revolution. Its first energy crisis ended its most affluent period and spurred me and my fellow travelers into the alternative energy pursuit, and none of us initially suspected that we would stumble into free energy ("FE"), but FE technology is older than I am, along with other Fifth Epoch technologies that are kept under wraps by the global elite. Just like with the other Epochal Events, the world will end as people know it, and the global elite clearly see their demise as Earth's rulers with those technologies, hence their organized suppression, FE chief of all, as all else depends on it, as everything has always depended on energy.

    With rising affluence, societies become more humane, as people are no longer battling for survival. I live in the one of Earth's most affluent places, where I can run into the world's richest man at the movie theater, and I can attest to the benefits of affluence, as well as the detriments of poverty.

    Dennis had his first idealistic business wiped out in the mayhem of the USA's first energy crisis, and he soon entered the energy conservation business. After surviving business thefts, murder attempts, and other outrages, he stumbled into the world's best heating system, and soon sold it under the most ingenious marketing program I ever saw, as he put it on the customer's home for free, and the customers only paid what their heat pumps saved in energy bills, until they were paid for. That was a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch. But Dennis is a literalist Christian, which is staunchly Third Epoch and reflects his migrant farmworker background. He woke up to the lie of his nationalist indoctrination, which is largely a Fourth Epoch phenomenon. Brian O also drank that Kool-Aid, and in his last book, he wrote about his codependent relationship with the USA's capital city. Heck, American children are force-fed the Kool-Aid from their cradles. So, even with the best I have seen or heard of, they still struggled to shed their Epochal indoctrination.

    Hunter-gatherer societies were egalitarian, by design. Social mores and rituals ensured that no one person could amass disproportionate wealth and, hence, political power, but the rise of civilization has been called the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy, as sedentism allowed for the accumulation of possessions. The tension between societal and private ownership has existed since the very first civilizations, as elites manipulated the system to gain their disproportionate share of the scarce economic surplus. The new professional priesthood entered into a Faustian deal with the new elites, conferring divine status or sanction to them, and other than playing at divinity, elites arguably performed some exchange function, as they skimmed off what went through their hands, which is an ancient game. This issue has dogged all civilizations to this day, and all political-economic ideologies are concerned with who gets the benefit of the scarce economic production.

    The Fifth Epoch means an end to all of that, and the global elite understand it very well, even if the masses are oblivious to it. But even the stupidest of us quickly gains a glimmering of what FE will mean: the end of the world as we know it, as with the previous Epochal Events. Nothing else can do it, which may be my work's primary message.

    So, as Dennis, Brian, myself, and the few others like us tried to help make FE happen, we encountered every kind of group that you can imagine on Earth today. I have carried the spears of the best of the best as they banged on the doors, engaged the public, risked and lost their lives, and so on. It was the kind of education that you cannot buy, and I finally had to admit that the general public is not fit for the FE pursuit. Far from it. They are far more harm than good these days, as their horizons of awareness never extend far past their immediate self-interest, and they are consequently almost effortlessly manipulated by the social managers. We tried, witnessed, or heard about every approach that I know of, except the one I am trying, and Brian and Dennis immediately understood that I was trying something different. But it is so radically different from the usual paths of failure that almost nobody on Earth can even comprehend what I am attempting. Godzilla likely looks on with a little bewilderment and doubts that my approach has a prayer, and that is just how I like it.

    It took many years of receiving thousands of reactions to the idea of FE for me to finally put them into a framework, and it was not until reading some of Bucky Fuller's work that I realized what they all had in common: scarcity. Almost everybody reacts to the idea of FE with denial and fear, and after several years of witnessing those reactions, from the tops of the world's scientific, political, academic, "progressive," and environmental organizations, Brian O began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species.

    I have never seen an organization in world history really embrace the idea of abundance. It is all in shades of scarcity. Any debates on who owns what, who should be paid or not, whether we have a commons or private ownership, and the like is the exchange game and part of the Super-Epoch of scarcity. All the debates and erudition that I see, whether it comes from the Free Software Movement (another harbinger of the Fifth Epoch), the radical left, and other "progressive" organizations, is still trapped in the fabric of scarcity, and few of them seem to even realize it, and they react to the idea of abundance with denial and fear. It is like they are a fish and scarcity is the water they swim in, and they cannot even think that anything exists beyond water.

    Dennis and Brian were far further along that curve than anybody else I encountered, but even they had struggles with their scarcity-based conditioning. It is not easy to shake, and in the end, my work is primarily about imagining abundance, and you can’t do that if you are trapped in scarcity. The crazy part is that the "smartest" people on Earth are generally the most resistant to the idea of abundance, and I call them Level 3s.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 25th September 2015 at 22:29.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (26th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  5. Link to Post #5703
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    Once you develop an eye for how people think, conditioned by the song of scarcity for their entire lives, a lot can become clear regarding my approach. For each Epochal Event, the people living before it could not have imagined what the event would mean, and if you had tried to tell them about what was ahead, their reaction, other than stark incomprehension, would have been fear and denial about 100% of the time, as their world would end as they knew it. So, the universal reactions of fear and denial to the idea of FE and abundance, which I have seen for so many years, are normal. Brian's question of whether humanity is a sentient species is a fair one.

    FE is bigger than all the rest of the Epochal Events put together, as it means the end of scarcity, and nobody has ever lived in true abundance on Earth before. There have been times of relative abundance (those golden ages), and you can see hints of what abundance can mean, but nearly everybody fiercely clings to their teddy bears of scarcity, and very very few are willing to let go, but those are the people I seek. I have listed the qualities that I think are necessary, so I won't belabor them, but I came up with them during my 40+-year journey, after I first got my dreams of changing the energy industry. Thousands of reactions to the idea of FE, witnessing fellow travelers, and the like have informed my perspective on this issue. It is not like I just dreamed it up one day.

    It is simply unrealistic to think that the masses are going to wake up from the nightmare of scarcity until the means of abundance are delivered into their lives. Machiavelli commented on how stuck people are in their habits and worldviews, and on the FE issue, that stuck-ness is greater by a few orders of magnitude.

    That is on the side of the masses, and does not touch on the organized suppression and other barriers. When Dennis had his businesses stolen so many times on the East Coast, it was just the sheer greed and criminality of his business associates. When he made his big run at it in Seattle, even though a hit man sicced on the company likely did work for Godzilla at some stage of his "career," most of what happened was just the local electric companies protecting their turf. Godzilla did not begin to get active until we began making FE noise in Boston, and we received our first friendly buyout offer, which became a hundred times larger the next year, before they lowered the boom on us. All of that was not terribly surprising to me. What was surprising were all the attacks and betrayals by my friends and family. If you had told me what I was in for when that voice told me to move to Seattle, I would not have believed you. By the time I heard that my mother made a scrapbook of the libelous articles about us, and took it on tour to my family, friends, and investors, telling the story of her son the criminal, my reaction was nearly, "So, what else is new?" By that time, my journey's primary lesson had long since been beaten into my head in no uncertain terms, and that my mother piled on was no great surprise. My father did not fare much better.

    My primary lesson during Brian's NEM fiasco was how much naïveté and low integrity there was in the FE field. That big names in the FE field lied shamelessly about Dennis was not a big surprise, but what was surprising was being handed the lies many times, as an example of great writing on the FE subject! That part was kind of mind-boggling at first, but I eventually realized how few people ever exercise discernment of any kind, unable to think rationally and ethically about these issues. I seek people who can, and if they are willing and capable, they have quite a journey ahead of them.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 26th September 2015 at 17:17.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (26th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  7. Link to Post #5704
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    I am finally putting several series of posts made at Avalon into my own forum, for easier reading.

    I just did if for:

    I plan to do it for the vignettes that I wrote over the summer, of people and events in my journey, which led me to my perspective today. That should be coming soon.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (26th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  9. Link to Post #5705
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Well, I got on a roll and put that vignette thread here. 59 posts worth. I am going to read a little of it myself, as I finished it months ago. I have documented my journey pretty extensively, but those vignettes added color to my journey that I have never quite written before.

    As I posted them up, I realized that I could have updated my posts on Gary Wean, but I want those posts to stand as I wrote them. I was reading his book recently, and a fact lodged in my head many years ago, but I was uncertain if I recalled it correctly. I did not stumble back onto it until rereading parts of Gary's book, and my memory did not fail me. Gary's job for years was tailing Mickey Cohen, putting him under surveillance. He did stuff like put a plant who could speak Yiddish in the booth next to Cohen while he spoke in Yiddish to Menachem Begin, and recorded them talking about JFK and his foreign policy. The fact that stuck in my mind was that that man who is a federal court judge today, at more than 90 years old, and who helped railroad Gary, was somebody who Gary knew was in Cohen's entourage. I thought that Gary saw them together before that lawyer reached the big time, and as I reread part of Gary's book, I saw that section. On pages 607-609 of his 1996 edition of his book (the original, published in 1987, is probably impossible to find today, but I have my copy that is falling apart), Gary recounts his experience of tailing Cohen to the boxing arena (just like in the movies, Cohen hung out at Jewish restaurants (the Italian Mob hung out as Italian restaurants), the race track, and boxing arena), and he saw the future federal judge and other Jewish gangsters meet with Cohen next to the boxing ring, and Gary followed that future judge to the parking lot, and saw that judge speaking with other mobsters. According to Gary, that judge eventually betrayed Cohen, who had outlived his usefulness, and Cohen went to prison, as his protectors in high places sold him down the river. Typical dark path stuff.

    As I have written before, that judge is noted for his "liberal" stands, and it is great cover for a gangster who sits on the federal bench to this day. Kind of surreal, but that is how our world really works.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 16th August 2023 at 18:49.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  10. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (26th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016), Krist (27th September 2015)

  11. Link to Post #5706
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    That game of gangsters playing "liberal" judges is a close cousin to all of the fake philanthropy that has long existed in the world. One of the biggest dead-ends in the FE pursuit is chasing after "philanthropists." After years of dealing with "humanitarians," James Gilliland told this joke: If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? It is a very old game, such as Jesus calling the Pharisees on their hypocrisy. Genocidists becoming saints and "fathers of our country" is just more of the same. The dark path turns night into day, and the masses fall for it every time. I know many people who called George Bush the Second a "good Christian," and that was the beginning and end of their political awareness. How many innocent children did he have to murder before he stopped being a "good Christian"? Or maybe, that is what "good Christians" do.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  12. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (27th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  13. Link to Post #5707
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    I took care of the post backlog to add to my forum, and I really don't have anything on my writing plate other than a high-level discussion of my big essay. I tweak my big essay all the time, to fix typos and the like, and I recently updated my .pdf versions, including the one without visible links, for those who prefer the book-type experience. I do not plan any significant revisions to my big essay for years. I was able to complete it on my terms, it gets across the gist of my message, and I can only be happy about that. It can be very frustrating to have a vision and not be able to articulate it in a way that does the vision justice, but after many years of hacking away at it, with a lot of help from my allies (who almost all wish to remain anonymous ), I have been blessed with publishing something that does sufficient justice to my vision and approach.

    Scientists and those with scientific training are studying the big essay, in preparation for having that high-level discussion, and I am patiently waiting for them to get ready. For my strategy to have a hope of success, that discussion has to happen. I need comprehensive thinkers, the kind that Bucky Fuller trained. Anything less, and my approach is not going to work. I have budgeted the rest of my life's "spare" time to building that choir, and we will see how it goes. I fully expected this to start slowly, as developing a comprehensive perspective is not easy. I had hoped that non-scientists would be able to engage me in discussing that essay, but it has yet to happen. That high-level discussion is going to attract the people I seek. I doubt that anything else will, especially at this stage of the effort. Casting the mass movement net has never worked for making FE happen, and my work is not designed for that. It is something different, and Dennis and Brian immediately recognized it.

    I have seen many people come and go over the years, as I am not offering something that really interests them, or they do not have what I am looking for. I have to be very picky, especially at the beginning, to get this off on the right foot. The nice part about this process in recent years is that when people disappear, they do it gracefully, and do not attack me or my work, but just decide that what I am doing is not for them. People such as Bill Ryan have a lot to do with that, as Avalon is the best-behaved forum that I have been involved with. I have experienced far, far worse, with professional trolls camping on my threads, having my threads deleted by administrators that invited me into their forums, etc. Avalon is how I met Scott and other allies, and I can only be grateful for it.

    I am very open to having my work challenged, but I have yet to ever see a challenge to my work, especially regarding its central aspects, such as the role of energy in the journey of life on Earth, especially the human journey and my conception of Epochs, the potential of FE technology and its existence on Earth today, or how our indoctrination and conditioning systems work, with their scarcity-based frameworks, etc., which was honest, informed, and intelligent. Most such challenges are nothing more than defending their in-groups, and my best critics have always been my allies, as they helped make my work better. I am only one man and cannot do it all by myself, and the help of my allies has been critical in the evolution of my work.

    I will likely find inspiration to write about some new (or not so new ) themes, in the near future, but I will likely go relatively quiet in the coming weeks, as I work for a living again and hope to land my next career position soon, before the roof caves in again.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  14. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (27th September 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  15. Link to Post #5708
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    An interesting discussion over here today, and part of my reply is below…

    When I first wrote my American Empire essay, "American Indian" was how most such people described themselves, and "Native American" has gained prominence in the 21st century, even though such "Native Americans" usually call themselves "Indians," and not in the half-joking way that African-Americans often use the "N" word with each other. In the appendices of Mann's 1493, he wrote a little essay on the challenges of terminology and changing political winds. He knew that he could not satisfy everybody. In Canada, they tried to resolve the issue with "First Nations."

    I have what I call a "redneck" heritage, and some relatives have gone into great detail on the distinction between rednecks, hillbillies, and "white trash," for instance. But some are offended by those terms. One of my big essay's primary messages is that we are all the Universal People, and once FE makes geographic isolation a thing of the past, nations, races, and ethnic groups are going to disappear, being phenomena of the Second, Third, and Fourth Epochs. In the Fifth Epoch, that all becomes obsolete, and far more.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  16. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015)

  17. Link to Post #5709
    United States Avalon Member
    Join Date
    14th December 2014
    Posts
    60
    Thanks
    175
    Thanked 205 times in 52 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Wade and David and/or anyone with pertinent thoughts,

    Is it just possible that a small segment of society has reached "escape velocity", a segment that some call the "break-away" civilization, and others call "the secret space program"? Is it just possible that they, as a result of their higher group consciousness, currently reside in the 5th Epoch having left the rest behind? Or, to phrase it another way, are they on a different more positive timeline in the multi-time line saga?

    Best,

    Fiber

  18. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Fiberglut For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krist (28th September 2015)

  19. Link to Post #5710
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi Fiberglut:

    They may have achieved something like "escape velocity" technologically (stolen, sequestered, suppressed if they don’t control it, etc.), but not spiritually, as far as I have seen. I have a feeling that they are headed more toward this world than this one. We encountered both the Black Hats and so-called White Hats, but their hats seemed more gray than white, as Godzilla's disenchanted faction that does not want to live on Mars. IMO, humans of the light side are not going to hide in the shadows, but are going to be visible and try to help as many "get over the hump" as possible. Think Jesus, Buddha, etc. The so-called "break-away" people are only playing elite games, IMO, based on scarcity. Integrity (AKA love), not technology, is the key to getting on that "positive" timeline.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 27th September 2015 at 22:03.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  20. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015), Krist (28th September 2015)

  21. Link to Post #5711
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    As readers know, I am an accountant by profession, but was trained to be a scientist. I read the financial blog-o-sphere each day, and I often get the same sense that Chomsky did when listening to Americans talk about sports, or how Orwell said that the proles in 1984 performed great mental feats regarding the lottery. All of that obvious intelligence is wasted on issues that do not matter at all, in the big picture. All manner of arcane concept attends Wall Street's "innovative" products that do little more than shear the sheep, in the end. It is all the exchange game, and virtually nothing productive comes from it. It is similar to how neoclassical economics gets into higher math. Math itself is fictional, and neoclassical economics rests on delusionary concepts of how the real world works, focusing on exchange to the exclusion of everything else. When FE makes its appearance, exchange concepts will become largely meaningless, as exchange is all about who gets what, and in world of abundance, it will not matter. If 0.01% of the brainpower focused on Wall Street's machinations was instead devoted to the subject of my big essay, we would have had FE long ago and Wall Street would go the way of dinosaurs and slavery. If 0.01% of the attention spent on football games in the USA was instead focused on the big essay's subject matter, we would have had FE long ago.

    It really is kind of surreal to know what is on the planet today, how it is ignored, suppressed, and the like, while nearly everybody rides on the Titanic, squabbling over the best berths.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  22. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Fiberglut (28th September 2015), Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015), Krist (28th September 2015), ThePythonicCow (28th September 2015)

  23. Link to Post #5712
    Ilie Pandia
    Guest

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    Briefly, more on Ilie's and Melinda's posts. On enzymes, the only enzymes that are really important are what our bodies produce, not what is in the food we eat. Enzymes are proteins made according to blueprints made by our DNA. We make our own enzymes, and enzymes in the food we eat are broken down into their raw materials, and can be reconstituted into enzymes that our bodies use.
    I am looking at this idea that the only enzymes that are really important are the ones that our bodies produce.

    A lot of the health and nutritional information available for various vegetables and fruits includes information about the enzymes that the plant has and how those aid in digestion. Is that largely useless information and just marketing hype?

    I found that there are such things as digestive enzymes. It is said that they are secreted by various glands in the digestive systems such as the salivary glands, secretory cells in the stomach, pancreas and the small intestine. Thus far it seems obvious that we do indeed produce our own enzymes...

    But then I found a site that was selling Digestive Enzymes supplements . Those in the Supplement business would have you think that you cannot possibly live a normal life unless you swallow those daily, and the main stream doctors are quick to dismiss anything as quackery if it was not in their medical books. That being said, there seems to be some general agreement that digestive supplements do have an effect on digestion, the debate is over you should be talking pills or just change your diet, but both arguments rely on the assumption that you can make good use of enzymes that your body did not produce itself.

    Here is an interesting quote:

    "Again, as we described in Enzymes Defined, nature intended that you eat enzyme rich food (all live foods have enzymes present in them that promote their own breakdown) and chew it properly so that it thoroughly mixes with your saliva (which is also enzyme rich). If you do that, the food enters your stomach laced with digestive enzymes. These enzymes then "predigest" your food for about an hour -- actually breaking down as much as 75% of your meal." (source)

    That page makes another argument that I've often read about, namely that cooking destroys the fragile enzyme molecules. Is that largely a non-relevant point, since we would not make good use of those enzymes anyway?

    To me it does make sense that enzymes already present in the food we eat to assist in the digestion of that food. And that those enzymes will supplement (but not replace) the activity of our own enzymes. Can we digest food that has no enzymes in it? Probably so, but then it becomes a question of effort and efficiency. So it makes sense to me that that food already rich in digestive enzymes will require much less effort (energy) to be digested and it will be much more nourishing to the body. And yes, there are likely enzymes that are useless to our bodies and they will have to be broken down and rebuilt into a useful one.
    Last edited by Ilie Pandia; 28th September 2015 at 02:04.

  24. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Ilie Pandia For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015), Krist (28th September 2015), Sunny-side-up (18th January 2016)

  25. Link to Post #5713
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Thanks Ilie:

    Yes, I should have qualified it with digestive enzymes, which are a tiny fraction of the kinds of enzymes that the human body produces. Those digestive enzymes decay the food, like cooking does. Yes, digestive enzymes help break down the food, and they are in the food we eat (uncooked food) but those enzymes themselves are broken down into amino acids, and the intestines absorb them, and the body builds the proteins (including enzymes) it needs from them. No ingested enzyme survives the digestive process, which was my point, and I can see where I should have been a little more precise. Thanks.

    I did not entirely agree with those articles, but in general, I did. The only food designed to be eaten by animals comes from flowering plants (nectar, fruit). That our non-flowering-plant foods have enzymes in them that help digest the food is really incidental. The "food" did not design itself to be digested by animals, including meat. It is the eater that adapted, not the food (although humans have greatly changed domestic plants and animals to make them better foods, i.e., more energetic). Our digestive systems have adjusted to enzyme levels in the food we eat, and our organs have adapted, so our pancreas has evolved to secrete a certain level of enzymes, and yes, our modern diets have upset the relationship between the enzyme levels that we have adapted to and what we eat, and an overworked pancreas leads to diabetes, for instance.

    That scientific paper that Freeknowledge linked to was about how to test the cooking hypothesis and the human development of genes for producing salivary amylase. In theory, people could adapt to cooked food better, and develop larger pancreases, for instance, given enough evolutionary time. I am not advocating that, but humans have already made major adaptations to cooked food, which includes secreting more digestive enzymes, and that trend will likely continue while we eat such foods.

    To your question, yes, we eat and digest foods that don't contain enzymes all the time, but that is what overworks our pancreas, for instance. There are health advocates who say that digestive enzyme supplements atrophy our enzyme-producing processes, so that is a bad thing, just like "feel good" drugs atrophy our body's ability to make them. I am not saying which camp is right, but making up the enzyme deficit due to cooking by producing more is certainly going to be a tax on the body, but we have probably already largely adapted to it.

    In the end, we have evolutionarily adapted to many conditions, including our foods, and humans have been creating vast and fast changes, which we are not adapted for, such as the junk food/obesity epidemic in the West. Can we adapt to 100% cooked food and be healthy? Given enough evolution, maybe so, but we are introducing changes far faster than evolution can accommodate them. Changes happening faster than evolution can handle them are how mass extinctions happen, and if our friends Béchamp, et al, are right, it is also how organisms self-destruct or become vulnerable to external organisms.

    Thanks again,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 28th September 2015 at 04:05.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  26. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015), Sunny-side-up (18th January 2016)

  27. Link to Post #5714
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    Ilie's enzyme post and my reply is an opportunity to provide an example of the food not designing itself to be eaten. Plants invented the polymer lignin for structural purposes, and they went "hog wild" with trees, which first appeared nearly 400 million years ago. Lignin was a great building material, but it took nearly 100 million years before anything learned how to digest it, and the enzyme that a fungus developed to digest lignin is about the most brute force enzyme known.

    During that 100 million years after that neat invention of lignin, trees did not rot, and they built up most of today's coal deposits, which is what allowed humanity to enter the Fourth Epoch. Those buried trees also led to Earth's highest oxygen levels ever and brought on an ice age, which not only collapsed Earth's first rainforests, but also led to the appearance of amniotes, which eventually led to humans.

    Did plants plan any of that? They just did what was in their best interests, and it set many vast dynamics in motion that are still playing out, nearly 400 million years later. If trees were more thoughtful and grew along with the enzymes that could digest them when they died, those events would not have happened.

    Time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  28. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (28th September 2015), Krist (28th September 2015), ThePythonicCow (28th September 2015)

  29. Link to Post #5715
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    Over here, we are discussing the distinction between neoliberal and neoclassical economics, and part of my reply is below…

    Neoliberal and neoclassical economics are very close cousins and amount to a market fetish, which in practice is not separated from imperial behavior, including the USA's neocolonial behaviors. People such as John Perkins have openly admitted the game. The authors of Energy and the Wealth of Nations barely distinguish neoclassical and neoliberal economics, and I think that is a good way to see it, and when I discussed neoclassical economics, I could have easily inserted "neoliberal" into the narrative. In practice, there are few distinctions between them. It is all the exchange game, rigged to favor the powerful interests. Calling it neoclassical I think is more accurate and shows its roots in classical economics, which was little more than capitalist apologetics. That John Rockefeller was the patron of neoclassical theory I think is significant. It was up to Marx to call out capitalism and its brutal methods of "primitive accumulation," which the earlier classical economists glossed over or ignored.

    The fact is that there has never been a free market (which we found out about the hard way in energy), a free press, an objective history, a purely pursued science, a true democracy, or any of those other ideological constructs that serve to indoctrinate people on behalf of the rich and powerful.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  30. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015)

  31. Link to Post #5716
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    I see that I did mention neoliberalism in my big essay. It sure looks like that when the dust settles, it is going to be Hilary versus Jeb for the presidency in 2016, as surreal at that is, something right out of imperial Rome, as the political machinery vaults them past all contenders. Hilary represents the neoliberal wing and Jeb represents the neoconservative wing. As Gore Vidal wittily stated, the USA's retail political system is really one party with two right wings. Nixon was far further to the left than Obama is. Everything has shifted so far to the right that anything left of it seems like it comes from another planet. JFK was the last president who stood up to the corporate-imperial system, and they showed him who was boss.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  32. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  33. Link to Post #5717
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi:

    Before I go perform some chores, I read this article this morning, on skyscraper technological advances. In my radicalized and comprehensive state of thinking, articles like that can be touchstones for my message.

    The advent of civilization is rightfully called the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy, as elites appeared on top of the thin energy surplus of early civilizations, and those societies were steeply hierarchical, with the elite at the top (AKA royalty), their enabling class below them (professionals, including the priesthood), and the mass of peasants and slaves at the bottom (Orwell's world in 1984 was similar). Not only were those societies politically and economically steeply hierarchical, but the elites and priesthoods, in their unholy union, enlisted the peasantry to perform the grunt-work to erect monuments to the elite. Every early civilization did that, beginning with the ziggurats and palaces of Sumer, and Old Kingdom Egypt erected the ultimate in that practice with the necropolis at Giza, until the failing floods ended the charade of the outright divinity of the pharaohs. It was all standard Old World practice, and the New World saw the same developments, even though they were largely in their Stone Age.

    The taller the building, the more powerful the elite. In Europe, the tallest buildings in cities transitioned from cathedrals to seats of government to business district skyscrapers, which reflected who really ran the show. It is all simply elite display. Those societies were economically, politically, and literally steeply hierarchical.

    In that nightmare future Earth that Roads visited, those steeply hierarchical systems reached their apotheosis, with the ultra-elite at the top, literally living in the penthouse, whose wealth was beyond measure, while at the bottom, death was meted out in lieu of medical care. That skyscraper article reminded me of Roads's mentor describing how, in that nightmare reality, they were able to make buildings that large and tall.

    In that heavenly world that Roads visited, they had cities, but they were nothing at all like today's cities, and I doubt that anybody lived in them, but for a few who wanted to. The rest of humanity was scattered across the planet (and probably the solar system) in rural idyllic settings that can scarcely be imagined today. Humans could travel anywhere on Earth with ease and almost instantly. Humanity was one community and openly interacted with "ET" civilizations, and became a valued member of galactic civilization.

    With FE and attendant technologies that exist on the planet today but are sequestered and kept under ultra-elite control (and independent attempts to develop them are wiped out, as I know all too well) human civilization could easily approach that heavenly world, and soon, and nations, cities, races, elites, and the like will become obsolete. I seek the relative handful who are brave enough to imagine the end of the world as we know it, and what can replace it is something that looks a lot like heaven.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 28th September 2015 at 19:40.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  34. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  35. Link to Post #5718
    United States Avalon Member Wade Frazier's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th January 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    8,203
    Thanks
    794
    Thanked 59,246 times in 8,200 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    One other post before chores. I cite Sheldrake's The Science Delusion in my big essay, and have been rereading some parts of it lately. It is a pretty tame challenge to the materialistic philosophy that forms the foundation of today's establishment science, and the "skeptics" were successful into having TED ban Sheldrake's talk about that book's subject matter. If you had any doubts about how the "skeptics" operate, Sheldrake's treatment should remove any doubt.

    I bring up Sheldrake's book because was reading it just last night, and I stumbled into the chapter (Chapter 5: "Is Nature Purposeless?") where Sheldrake discussed enzyme formation, which is topical in light of Ilie's recent post and my replies. Enzymes are incredibly complex molecules that fold in ways to reach their lowest potential energy level. Sheldrake cited research that showed that there are quite literally zillions of folding combinations that each enzyme could have taken to the ones they have, and to randomly come to them is pretty much impossible, as the odds are so great against it. Again, the best scientists say that today's science cannot answer the question of intent behind how our universe works, and Sheldrake discusses evidence that calls into question the "purposelessness" of nature, and heretical thoughts like that got him banned from TED, which is an infotainment forum, as far as I am concerned, and its name even includes the word "entertainment." It is lightweight stuff.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

  36. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wade Frazier For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Krishna (1st July 2016)

  37. Link to Post #5719
    Ilie Pandia
    Guest

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Hi,

    Here are two pictures of different possibilities. One of the buildings is "erected" while the other is not... I wonder if there really is something to this male/female energy being expressed into our buildings

    Click image for larger version

Name:	sky-scraper.jpg
Views:	242
Size:	58.4 KB
ID:	31336

    Click image for larger version

Name:	the_shire.jpg
Views:	215
Size:	444.3 KB
ID:	31337

  38. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ilie Pandia For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Limor Wolf (5th October 2015)

  39. Link to Post #5720
    Canada Avalon Member Ernie Nemeth's Avatar
    Join Date
    25th January 2011
    Location
    Toronto
    Age
    68
    Posts
    6,065
    Thanks
    27,857
    Thanked 40,247 times in 5,786 posts

    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Quote The fact is that there has never been a free market (which we found out about the hard way in energy), a free press, an objective history, a purely pursued science, a true democracy, or any of those other ideological constructs that serve to indoctrinate people on behalf of the rich and powerful.
    From that perspective there has never been freedom either. It could also be argued that there cannot be freedom in a free market economy because capitalist markets are anything but free. They dominate and control, destroy and plunder. Such paradigms are simply the laws of the jungle in human terms.

    It should be obvious, but it isn't. Just as it should be obvious that an FE economy would herald an era of progressive innovation and abundance never before experienced on this planet, but it isn't.

    Even freedom of thought is curtailed. You are free to think what you want but if it is the truth you are searching for you are on your own. There is a mode of thinking on this planet that has been inculcated into our minds by society and its educational system. Its intent is to obscure anything deemed sensitive and privy information by formulating a set of falsehoods or half-truths that short circuit the rational mind before it can arrive at these secret understandings, thereby hiding the truth in plain sight. We are not only rendered blind by this purposefully imparted functional impasse, we derive our values and live our lives by them.

    And although they call the USA the land of the free it is rapidly becoming the land of the enslaved and the duped - if it ever was anything but...
    Last edited by Ernie Nemeth; 28th September 2015 at 20:39.
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

    Free will can only be as free as the mind that conceives it.

  40. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Ernie Nemeth For This Post:

    Joseph McAree (1st October 2015), Wade Frazier (28th September 2015)

+ Reply to Thread
Page 286 of 573 FirstFirst 1 186 236 276 286 296 336 386 573 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Is Our Planet A Crystal?
    By Grizzom in forum Movies, TV, and Games
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 20th June 2010, 19:57
  2. They Came From Planet Earth
    By Grizzom in forum Movies, TV, and Games
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 19th June 2010, 07:22

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts