Doctors Without Borders was attacked by US forces on October 3rd

[Gaia]

The MSF (Médecins sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders) Trauma Center in Kunduz, Afghanistan, was attacked by US forces on October 3rd. The rationale for the attack remains unclear, with differing accounts being given by US officials. MSF has condemned the attack, in which at least twenty-two people were killed, and called for an independent inquiry into the bombing.

Anyone who thinks that the bombing was a mistake has to explain two facts: the fact that the US (as with all parties) had the GPS coordinates of the MSF hospital, and the fact that the bombing continued for an hour with notifications being given to the US that it was ongoing. One missile in a spot is a tragedy. Bombing raids every 15 minutes in an area that is known to be a hospital is a war crime.

Senator McCain gave an interview to NPR in which he claims that the attack was the Taliban's fault for invading Kunduz to begin with, and implied that a war crime is properly defined as "something the USA doesn't ever do." Shameful!

Doctors Without Borders is among the most upstanding and trustworthy (and heroic) large non-profits currently operating, and they have needed every ounce of that credibility this week as they battled the disgusting and cowardly obfuscations coming from the U.S. military and media.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0S10SX20151007

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org

[moekatz]

I thought a Rockefeller -grandson? who died in a plane crash was involved in Doctors Without Borders. As with all humanitarian organizations around the world, our black ops infiltrates at will. For what purpose? Corruption is so deep in our USA system!!!!

[Gaia]

Posted by moekatz (here)
I thought a Rockefeller -grandson? who died in a plane crash was involved in Doctors Without Borders. As with all humanitarian organizations around the world, our black ops infiltrates at will. For what purpose? Corruption is so deep in our USA system!!!!

From everything I've read about this Rockefeller '' David'', was a good man who tried to help various causes in the world, not just live off Daddy's money.

America doing what it does best you know! Using the forces to carry out the elites plan for the world. Why isn't this headline news? Russia was the other day when they apparently bombed civilians... It's a war zone... Bomb with impunity!?!

[idiit]

Snowden Has A Simple Solution To Get To The Bottom Of The US Afghan Bombing "War Crime"

AC-130 warplanes record the gunner's video and audio

Did Obama Bomb Doctors Without Borders for Opposing TPP?
10/06/2015

Had the President of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Doctors Without Borders not warned us of the “imminent threat to global health” posed by the TPP, would these 22 doctors and patients have lost their lives early Saturday?

Christopher Stokes, MSF General Director, irately stated, “Not a single member of our staff reported fighting inside the MSF hospital compound prior to the U.S. airstrike Saturday morning. The hospital was full of MSF staff, patients, and their caretakers. It is 12 MSF staff members and ten patients, including three children, who were killed in the attack.”

Reports from the scene indicate MSF had not only notified all warring parties in the region of the exact GPS coordinates for the hospital and its outlying buildings, but that doctors immediately notified forces the moment the hospital came under fire from a U.S. airstrike — and, even then, the attack continued for a full 30 minutes.

In the case of MSF, a massive treaty cum trade deal involving U.S. interests in another part of the world from the tragedy in Kunduz can offer, perhaps, insight which might otherwise seem unrelated. As it turns out, MSF have been particularly vocal critics of the impending Trans-Pacific Partnership — and their criticism hasn’t gone unnoticed.

Though the Nobel Prize-winning group has actively but reservedly opposed the massive TPP deal for years, recent letters to President Obama and a campaign of subway ads on the D.C. Metro show a more urgent, public push. Sanjuan admitted such a robust effort “is not usual practice for us.”

What is so pressing for the public to know that it led the group to abandon its typically subdued tone?

Simply, drug costs. Specifically, the intellectual property and patent laws that will favor drug companies should the TPP take effect.

“It would force them to change the law of many of these countries that are currently negotiating to create new intellectual property protections for pharmaceutical drugs, including but not limited to patents,” Sanjuan explained about the deal as exposed by WikiLeaks in 2013. “The effects of these new obligations would limit generic competition and therefore increase the cost of medicine.”

This has put Médecins sans Frontières “at odds with the White House,” as the National Journal delicately described. A recent letter to Obama from MSF clearly alluded to the humanitarian nature of the group’s opposition to the trade deal:

“MSF believes this is essential to closing the gap in access to medicines to millions of people around the world. The TPP could be an opportunity to make significant progress toward these goals. Instead, in its current state, the TPP is a threat to the health of millions.”

Profit, on the other hand, must be protected no matter the human cost.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...s-opposing-tpp

'bummer's a puppet. the Zionists call the shots in the white house.

AC-130 warplanes record the gunner's video and audio

no problem to check the gunner's audio and video except if the Zionists are culpable they will stonewall anyone getting access to the evidence.

[Gaia]

I agree idiit this is the first time a Nobel peace prize winner has bombed another Nobel peace prize winner! In other words, it isn't the crime, it's the cover-up.

[idiit]

US special operations forces – not their Afghan allies – called in the deadly airstrike on the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, the US commander has conceded.

Doctors Without Borders airstrike: US alters story for fourth time in four days

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-changes-again

[giovonni]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Why isn't this headline news?

Note it has been reported several times since last weekend here in the United States times on PBS and also on the MSM ... Perhaps this might bring some light into this tragic mishap ...

Posted by giovonni (here)
some insight ...

Dependency on War Lords Led to U.S. Attack on MSF Afghan Hospital

Sonali Kolhatkar tells Paul Jay that the American perpetual war strategy has created a
criminal narco-state and generated support for the hated Taliban.

Published on Oct 6, 2015

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3AunbGjCU

[Gaia]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Why isn't this headline news?

Note it has been reported sveral times since last weekend here in the United States times on PBS and also on the MSN ... Perhaps this might bring some light into this tragic mishap ...

Posted by giovonni (here)
some insight ...

Dependency on War Lords Led to U.S. Attack on MSF Afghan Hospital

Sonali Kolhatkar tells Paul Jay that the American perpetual war strategy has created a
criminal narco-state and generated support for the hated Taliban.

Published on Oct 6, 2015

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3AunbGjCU

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

According to DWB/MSF, the U.S., Afghan, and NATO forces had both prior knowledge of the hospital's location and an hour's worth of desperate pleas from the hospital to cease the bombing. DWB/MSF had lines of communication to these forces at the highest levels, and nothing stopped the bombing. In addition, the main building of the hospital was specifically and repeatedly targeted, while the outbuildings were left alone.

To me, this says it was either (1) a coldly targeted attack on someone someone thought was a patient, whose death "justified" killing the other people inside and bombing a hospital (which perhaps turned out to be mistaken intelligence, considering we've heard nothing like this beyond the initial, disgusting label of "collateral damage"), or (2) the person at the controls of the bomber went off command and just bombed the hell out of the hospital for whatever reason. According to DWB/MSF, the U.S., Afghan, and NATO forces had both prior knowledge of the hospital's location and an hour's worth of desperate pleas from the hospital to cease the bombing. DWB/MSF had lines of communication to these forces at the highest levels, and nothing stopped the bombing. In addition, the main building of the hospital was specifically and repeatedly targeted, while the outbuildings were left alone.

To me, this says it was either (1) a coldly targeted attack on someone someone thought was a patient, whose death "justified" killing the other people inside and bombing a hospital (which perhaps turned out to be mistaken intelligence, considering we've heard nothing like this beyond the initial, disgusting label of "collateral damage"), or (2) the person at the controls of the bomber went off command and just bombed the hell out of the hospital for whatever reason.According to DWB/MSF, the U.S., Afghan, and NATO forces had both prior knowledge of the hospital's location and an hour's worth of desperate pleas from the hospital to cease the bombing. DWB/MSF had lines of communication to these forces at the highest levels, and nothing stopped the bombing. In addition, the main building of the hospital was specifically and repeatedly targeted, while the outbuildings were left alone.

[giovonni]

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

[Gaia]

Posted by idiit (here)
US special operations forces – not their Afghan allies – called in the deadly airstrike on the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, the US commander has conceded.

Doctors Without Borders airstrike: US alters story for fourth time in four days

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-changes-again

Just luv it! Doctors Without Borders airstrike: US alters story for fourth time in four days...

Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept has covered the US's radically changing account of the bombing. He also accuses the New York Times and CNN of "deliberately obscuring who perpetrated the Afghan hospital attack".

Conor Friedersdorf at The Atlantic alleges that "News organizations spread false information about a U.S. airstrike that hit an Afghan hospital, as a result of untruths that came from unnamed government sources."

http://theintercept.com/2015/10/05/t...justification/

[Gaia]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.This is totally against anything peaceful! As you maybe know, USA rejects bombing of Auschwitz... The question “Why wasn’t Auschwitz bombed?” Is not only historical. It is also a moral question emblematic of the Allied response to the plight of the Jews during the Holocaust. Moreover, it is a question that has been posed to a series of Presidents of the United States.

I question whether the people making the decisions care about "looking horribly bad" (to whom?) given the history of this war. It's plenty clear that most Americans will swallow whatever justification the military eventually settles on for this.

[giovonni]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.

i agree it was a tragic mistake.

[Gaia]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.

i agree it was a tragic mistake.

Merci! I think it's plenty clear most Americans could give a flying f... about a bunch of dead brown people and international do-gooders. organization Doctors Without Borders has asked Russia to convene an independent session of the International Humanitarian Commission to investigate the strike against the Kunduz hospital. 22 people were killed.

[giovonni]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.

i agree it was a tragic mistake.

Merci! I think it's plenty clear most Americans could give a flying f... about a bunch of dead brown people and international do-gooders.

I don't share that opinion.

[Bubu]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.

i agree it was a tragic mistake.

Ya tragic mistake seems that the us military just keeps on making tragic mistake
http://www.collective-evolution.com/...ake-his-point/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zvROT1QG5JI

[observer]

In no way should this incident be characterized as:

"this tragic mishap"

Much like the Mass School Massacres, these blatant WAR CRIMES are all, one-in-the-same, a synchronized agenda. ....and they are all being orchestrated in OUR NAME !!!

It would serve the members well to take 10 minutes of their precious time and listen to this video. It ties all of this NIGHTMARE together:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yrPsMWa9KqU

[Gaia]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)

We U.S. Canada been bombing Afghanistan for 14 years now. Are we any closer to whatever goal we had now than we were a decade and half ago? What could the military have had to gain by destroying the hospital on purpose?

In my opinion, bombing has never gained anything other than perhaps new contracts for more bombs.

No possible scenario remains where this was part of a logical plan on the US military's part.

i agree it was a tragic mistake.

Merci! I think it's plenty clear most Americans could give a flying f... about a bunch of dead brown people and international do-gooders.

I don't share that opinion.

Merci Gio

[Cidersomerset]

Obama apologises to MSF president for Kunduz bombing

43 minutes ago.....From the section US & Canada



A survivor of the bombing recovers in the MSF hospital


US President Barack Obama has apologised to the president of aid agency
Medecins San Frontieres (MSF) for a bombing that killed at least 22.

The US has said the bombing, which took place in the Afghan city of Kunduz,
was a mistake and it was attempting to strike the Taliban.

MSF wants the bombing to be investigated as a war crime.

Mr Obama has also apologised to the president of Afghanistan.

"If it is necessary to hold individuals accountable, that will be done,"
said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.


Mr Obama "expressed his condolences" to MSF president Joanne Liu, said Mr Earnest.

"In the United States when we make mistakes, we're honest about it. We own up to it," he said.

Mr Earnest also hinted at the possibility of paying victims and their families, a Department of Defense policy.

Read More....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34467631

[Gaia]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)


Obama apologises to MSF president for Kunduz bombing

43 minutes ago.....From the section US & Canada



A survivor of the bombing recovers in the MSF hospital


US President Barack Obama has apologised to the president of aid agency
Medecins San Frontieres (MSF) for a bombing that killed at least 22.

The US has said the bombing, which took place in the Afghan city of Kunduz,
was a mistake and it was attempting to strike the Taliban.

MSF wants the bombing to be investigated as a war crime.

Mr Obama has also apologised to the president of Afghanistan.

"If it is necessary to hold individuals accountable, that will be done,"
said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.


Mr Obama "expressed his condolences" to MSF president Joanne Liu, said Mr Earnest.

"In the United States when we make mistakes, we're honest about it. We own up to it," he said.

Mr Earnest also hinted at the possibility of paying victims and their families, a Department of Defense policy.

Read More....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34467631

With my willingness to live here some kind of tacit acceptance of the terrible things my country and US does? Deliberately attacking a hospital or medical unit is a war crime. It's never a legitimate target. Even if Obama claim that there were combatants hiding in the hospital, that doesn't change the crime of war. They we're the only target!!!

What makes me saddest is that even it is proven that this was deliberate...

The best, I'm willing to concede is malicious indifference of my country and US... And I meaning!!!

[sigma6]

If... they were engaged in aiding the enemy in any way shape or form, explicitly or covertly, then this would be consistent with Military Law Interpretation and the Libor Code... (as harsh as that sounds) i.e. if you are operating as a hospital unit helping the wounded, you cannot be involved with any activities regarding the conflict for either side... regardless how often it happens, it is a dangerous gamble, and to do so is a gross violation of strict conventions and the principles they are based on. It would be considered a breach of trust interpretation, on the other side, an attack on such a party operating under that condition would also never be allowed under any circumstances either, by the same code. Violating this code of course would bring dire consequences, essentially a complete breach.... considering they are not calling it an "accident"... says a lot... oops double checked that... it is a "mistake" ...(missed that...) it's apparently without "explanation" ... duly corrected... (was focusing too much on the tone then the words...)

And I didn't know it was a French operation?... I wonder if there is an element to that?...