Anomalies in The Ruiner's material

[onawah]

Unfortunately, this:

every person incarnated on earth is capable of every type of "siddhi", every kind of "channeling", OBE, remote viewing, etc etc etc. sure, when you want to learn how to make these things better, you seek out those who have walked the path before you.

...can also open a huge can of worms. If you aren't yet capable of discernment, then you may also not be capable of ascertaining who among those who are purported to be teachers of that kind of development are authentic.
Many people spend years learning this to their cost.
Whenever I hear the kind of message that says that something very complex and difficult is actually simple and that we only need to do this or that, I am reminded that we humans function on many levels, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, etc.
And in order for us to remain in balance and healthy, we have to develop those levels in a balanced way.
The mistake that I see so many make is to try and develop on only one level and to become an expert at that level.
In that way, balance and wholeness are sacrificed, which are necessary aspect of being truly human.
I think that learning about the world outside of us as well as inside of us is important if we are to be in balance.
And I think it's safe to say that those who try to develop their powers without also developing the other levels of their being are going to create a lot of problems for themselves.
Powers develop naturally as we develop as human beings, as it's natural and safe for that to happen.
The additional problem now is that there are forces and groups that are trying very hard to keep us from developing at all, and I think we need to understand them as well as we can if we are going to deal with them effectively.
And if they have, as Castaneda's teacher Don Juan put it "given us their mind", then we also have to look inside to see how that affects us, and understand that seeking power instead of balance and wholeness can be a dangerous trap.

Posted by workingactor (here)
I think..that the reason us "seekers" get caught out there on an oke-doke(translation: tricked and lied to) is that we keep seeking outwardly what is in ourselves. There will always be a "shane" ready to play with people, for whatever reason. It's taken me many moons to learn this, but, every person incarnated on earth is capable of every type of "siddhi", every kind of "channeling", OBE, remote viewing, etc etc etc. sure, when you want to learn how to make these things better, you seek out those who have walked the path before you. BUT, never give your power to them. Trust your own discernment. You(we) really are that powerful, and we forget that. I know I do.

TL:DR version: You don't NEED a "shane", a "simon" or anyone else. The information on our "controllers" is out there. You just need you.

[Sean]

Posted by onawah (here)
Unfortunately, this:

every person incarnated on earth is capable of every type of "siddhi", every kind of "channeling", OBE, remote viewing, etc etc etc. sure, when you want to learn how to make these things better, you seek out those who have walked the path before you.

...can also open a huge can of worms. If you aren't yet capable of discernment, then you may also not be capable of ascertaining who among those who are purported to be teachers of that kind of development are authentic.
Many people spend years learning this to their cost.
Whenever I hear the kind of message that says that something very complex and difficult is actually simple and that we only need to do this or that, I am reminded that we humans function on many levels, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, etc.
And in order for us to remain in balance and healthy, we have to develop those levels in a balanced way.
The mistake that I see so many make is to try and develop on only one level and to become an expert at that level.
In that way, balance and wholeness are sacrificed, which are necessary aspect of being truly human.
I think that learning about the world outside of us as well as inside of us is important if we are to be in balance.
And I think it's safe to say that those who try to develop their powers without also developing the other levels of their being are going to create a lot of problems for themselves.
Powers develop naturally as we develop as human beings, as it's natural and safe for that to happen.
The additional problem now is that there are forces and groups that are trying very hard to keep us from developing at all, and I think we need to understand them as well as we can if we are going to deal with them effectively.
And if they have, as Castaneda's teacher Don Juan put it "given us their mind", then we also have to look inside to see how that affects us, and understand that seeking power instead of balance and wholeness can be a dangerous trap.

Posted by workingactor (here)
I think..that the reason us "seekers" get caught out there on an oke-doke(translation: tricked and lied to) is that we keep seeking outwardly what is in ourselves. There will always be a "shane" ready to play with people, for whatever reason. It's taken me many moons to learn this, but, every person incarnated on earth is capable of every type of "siddhi", every kind of "channeling", OBE, remote viewing, etc etc etc. sure, when you want to learn how to make these things better, you seek out those who have walked the path before you. BUT, never give your power to them. Trust your own discernment. You(we) really are that powerful, and we forget that. I know I do.

TL:DR version: You don't NEED a "shane", a "simon" or anyone else. The information on our "controllers" is out there. You just need you.

I understand your point..but that can of worms NEEDS to be opened. and, considering what "they" have done to us..we need to open a can of "whup ass" right after that can of worms.

It's always safer to contemplate change, and stay in the BG theorizing.

There are times that ACTION is required, and RISK must be taken. Otherwise, nothing changes.

It's "go time" and we have to do stuff, or, when we incarnate here again, it'll be exactly the same, except we'll have newer gadgets/better technology etc. but the controls will still be in place.

We have to CHALLENGE the control matrix. Not just talk about it.

[quiltinggrandma]

I must opologize to shane for an earlier reply.I was thinking today about what he said,words,words,words.I now think he used certain words as cues to open us up-to expand on our conciousness.We all have same and different cues.I also learned that we are all in this together.I held back from discussions from feeling that my lack of education couldn't possibly offer anything,but i could only learn.That triggered,giving and recieving.So please bear with me fellow avalonians while i take baby steps to bliss.I know now that i won't wake up tommorrow totally enlightened.It's a process for all of us.Sorry for bad spelling,words,words,words.Peace,love,and light to all of you.And thank you to bill for watching over all us chickens(thadeus golas,"lazy mans guide to enlightenment")

[Kristin]

Posted by quiltinggrandma (here)
I must opologize to shane for an earlier reply.I was thinking today about what he said,words,words,words.I now think he used certain words as cues to open us up-to expand on our conciousness.We all have same and different cues.I also learned that we are all in this together.I held back from discussions from feeling that my lack of education couldn't possibly offer anything,but i could only learn.That triggered,giving and recieving.So please bear with me fellow avalonians while i take baby steps to bliss.I know now that i won't wake up tommorrow totally enlightened.It's a process for all of us.Sorry for bad spelling,words,words,words.Peace,love,and light to all of you.And thank you to bill for watching over all us chickens(thadeus golas,"lazy mans guide to enlightenment")

We are all "chickens" learning with you! Thank you for being here and giving your best! Very much appreciated

[Jhonie]

My view of 'The Ruiner' was and is, just another distraction....

[3(C)+me]

Workingactor wrote:
I understand your point..but that can of worms NEEDS to be opened. and, considering what "they" have done to us..we need to open a can of "whup ass" right after that can of worms.

It's always safer to contemplate change, and stay in the BG theorizing.

There are times that ACTION is required, and RISK must be taken. Otherwise, nothing changes.

It's "go time" and we have to do stuff, or, when we incarnate here again, it'll be exactly the same, except we'll have newer gadgets/better technology etc. but the controls will still be in place.



cccme:
Not to put you on the spot or anything workingactor but what do you propose we do?

[Sean]

I've thought a lot about "what to do"..I've said before, in other threads, to use what you have from where you are.

well, I'm "in hollywood", I act, I'm a musician-in-training..I plan to use my skills to create something that challenges the controllers. could be a song, a script, etc. Something that attacks, exposes, illustrates what we're up against. Get it out there. then do it again.

Create for the purpose of destruction.

I'd say, everyone should look at yourself, your skillset, and ask yourself..what are you willing to do? what are you willing to risk?

art can change the world. Music can change the world. It can inspire revolution. WE should inspire revolution, with whatever is in our personal toolbox.

Do you want to incarnate here 500 years from now, and see the same damn thing going on? Or do you want to strike now? break down the control now?

we're not helpless. We're too powerful for helplessness.

GO.

[OmeyocaN777]

Posted by workingactor (here)
I've thought a lot about "what to do"..I've said before, in other threads, to use what you have from where you are.

well, I'm "in hollywood", I act, I'm a musician-in-training..I plan to use my skills to create something that challenges the controllers. could be a song, a script, etc. Something that attacks, exposes, illustrates what we're up against. Get it out there. then do it again.

Create for the purpose of destruction.

I'd say, everyone should look at yourself, your skillset, and ask yourself..what are you willing to do? what are you willing to risk?

art can change the world. Music can change the world. It can inspire revolution. WE should inspire revolution, with whatever is in our personal toolbox.

Do you want to incarnate here 500 years from now, and see the same damn thing going on? Or do you want to strike now? break down the control now?

we're not helpless. We're too powerful for helplessness.

GO.

I agree with you about the circle of reincarnations......i want also to stop this.
The revolution that i prefer it starts inside me.....

As Einstein said:

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty."
"To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, requires creative imagination and marks real advance in science."
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science."
"Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them."

I'll stop here.....i think you get the picture.....

My point is to start vibrate/thinking/acting like a 5d soul does (3-4d are full of traps and manipulations-you know from who-you can say that they are teaching us in a way).
An example of it you can read in my previous Post #183.https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1009811
A good start is to use our imagination/heart chakra to heal others (when you send love-healing energy to someone is returning multiple times back to you).
We can go even one step beyond.......meditate in one power place of mother earth, help her to accelerate her frequency....
When one place is clean from negative/blocked energies all the beings living around profits from that.
We can make even a small group-ritual with a focus-intent love energy to multiply the effect....
Send Love out there people, we live in times that everybody are imbalance and they truly need it......

[araucaria]

Cccme, anyone is perfectly free to hold opinions contrary to the ideas I am exploring, and to express or withhold those opinions as they see fit. But they must allow me the same liberty not to call my ideas opinions: they are more malleable than that. I need that malleability in order for them to evolve, the same malleability that I am applying to other notions such as belief and deceit.

Regarding Shane, see this post by Paul. Whether or not it applies to the case at issue, it is an explanation of how deceit can be the wrong concept in a given situation. If a man tells you he is Napoleon, he has a problem. But you have a problem of your own if you believe him. He is not deceiving you, but you are deceived by your own ignorance of his medical condition. Or take a woman caught stealing: is she a criminal, or do you take mitigating circumstances into account? What if she is stealing food to feed her family? That would simply make her a good mother in financial straits.

Take conspiracy: the critics of conspiracy theory don’t see the need for an overarching evil force governing every single event that happens in the world. This makes a good deal of sense. But when the man in the street puts it down to “human nature”, you see that this simpler explanation merely transfers some overarching evil force to human DNA. Alternatively someone like CG Jung comes along and makes a professional diagnosis of collective psychosis to which many but possibly not all may succumb. Once again, the terminology has changed, but we are still talking about the same thing. And yet, what we see on the largest scale is no different from what we see on the smallest scale. At the very top of this conspiracy, you have mythomaniacs taking themselves for Napoleon, the one difference being that people are listening to them. The deceit is self-inflicted through ignorance of the condition. And sure, crime exists, but as we know, a great deal of crime has other causes than bad people plain and simple. In the above example, do we send a shoplifter to prison, or do we change the economic circumstances that led to the crime? Now transpose this to the largest scale: the need to understand and probably change our terminology is similarly crucial. When the legal term “mitigating circumstances” is translated into everyday compassion, the appearance of laxity in the legal system looks more like the normal sensitive behaviour of tailoring one’s responses to the individual one is dealing with. But there always seems to come a point when this no longer works for us; the crime is too serious, and it’s Off with their heads! I think we need to overcome that barrier, which indeed has a name: the incurable psychopath. Otherwise, we should have to define what is going on and at what point we switch from the forgivable to the unforgivable. The death penalty can only be a valid punishment for someone who sees death as final, so the big unanswered question of our time is What do we do with, i.e. how do we cure, the incurable cases?

Shane’s mythomania is only the reflection, way down the pyramid, of this basic mythomania from the top down. As far as I can tell, the reptilians’ chief characteristic is that they like to rewrite history in their own favour – up to and including drafting in Napoleon himself, who was recently described as having been microchipped. I have never been to a mental institution, but I am sure notions like truth and belief and deceit have to be left in the lobby on the way in. The trouble is that we have entered this mental institution thinking it was a government building. And the reality of our plight stems from the fact that so far it has been both. The next, obvious step has to be to separate the two. We need both mental institutions where mythomania is dealt with knowingly and compassionately, and government buildings where mythomania is largely absent.

Uncovering government deceit and lies is only the first step. Discovering that such people are guided by reptilian entities that no one else can see is another. To consider seeing such creatures as a symptom of a medical condition might be yet another. If that hypothesis has any validity, then the spread of the phenomenon to more and more experiencers would be alarmingly symptomatic of the spread of this collective psychosis rather than any awakening of the population; and, on the contrary, the desirable outcome would be to see them as an illusory phenomenon to be dispelled like the myth of the Emperor’s new clothes.

The question then changes. Right now it is, “Do (I believe) reptilians exist?” One may accept there is enough evidence to conclude that they do exist in a certain kind of mind – but that does not amount to accepting that they actually exist. To think otherwise would be akin to accepting the question “When will you stop beating your wife?” One is self-deceived into accepting an untruth. If on the other hand you accept that reptilians do exist, but specifically in a certain kind of unhealthy mind, you are actually stating that they don’t exist otherwise, i.e. in a healthy mind, still less in the real world.

Notions like deceit and lies do not come close to conceptualizing this issue. Since I appear to like reversals, here is one more: They say Satan likes it best when people think he doesn’t exist. Actually, Satan likes it worst when people know he doesn’t exist, not even to the extent of being a subject capable of liking beyond the fictional world of this sentence.

PS. I’ve just seen your Add-on, thank you. To be perfectly clear, when I said “lone nuts”, I was referring to JFK seen from his enemies’ viewpoint, not ours. And I have nothing against great men; au contraire, we need to swell their ranks, until they become simply normal men.

[OmeyocaN777]

When someone doesn't believe that reps exist, i can fully understand it and really i don't have a problem with it.
But nobody can ignore the fact that the reptilian energy/thinking exist inside us also (rep-brain).
This energy is useful for a example when we are in danger or to defence (survive).
The problem starts when we lose the balance between the 3 main parts of our brain.
We all know that they exist people that take pleasure when they learn that something bad happened to another person or they have a way to critisised everybody and getting pleasure of it (that they are better) when they focus only in the negative side of the character of the person or they are servise to self e.t.c
These kind of souls that they used to behave like this, they lost their balance (connection to source) and became psychopaths (psychic vampires).
SO even if we don't believe that reps exist, we can't deny the fact that still we have this energy to balance inside us (matrix-experiment).......
Believe it or not, these kind of souls that vibrate/thinking in this kind of way is matter of time (or incarnations) their soul to "possesed" by reps frequency and becoming one........
So i apologise about the energy of this post but i felt the need to be clear on it because it's critical to understand the meaning of balance before we proceed.......

Peace and Love

[giovonni]

i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

[ulli]

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

[giovonni]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

[ulli]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

I agree. Self definition is key, and even when standing in a forest of billboards- the option exists whether to read them or shut one's eyes and look within.

As a former fashion designer the discussion often revolved around why one put on the clothes
one was wearing. Whether conscious choice or unconscious, manipulated ...a lot can be learnt there about oneself and others.

Araucaria mentioned fashion in one of his posts...how the elite are not about upholding traditions, but are about the latest fashion (in thought at least, even though their clothes may be classics, toned down, preppy, expensive)
And Shane may be an example of this latest fashion amongst members of the elite: hey, let's all create the memes that will mold masses of people.
And to give him credit, I do believe he has distanced himself from the more manipulate meme makers of his ilk, and really is trying (maybe just experimenting) with guiding people to a mind-expanding experience.

[Johnny]

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

From the above:

When you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of everyone, then accept it and live up to it.

Here is an example of how a belief system can occur.

I remember I once heard on television a priest say, that without religion (Christianity) we would live without morals and ethics.

I can imagine that when ignorant people hear something like that, that fear comes up in them (a society without morals and ethics !!) and that they indirectly (for themselves, logical) conclude, so we better support the religion.

Johnny

[araucaria]

Interesting article: when it comes to why we believe, it speaks only for the religious believer. The rational believer/disbeliever has his own rational reasons: I believe I can’t walk through walls, because to date I have come to grief every time I have tried to pass through so much as a door without first opening it. Someone tells me I can walk through walls? Fine, just show me, without taking the skin off my nose.

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

The linked article gives the example of the rational believer who believes the earth is flat, because he is always vertical when walking around. This is a handy parochial view that overlooks the fact that there would have to be a place where you might fall off; but it is always somewhere else. Another rational believer might believe the earth is round because he has been everywhere and never fallen off. Both are valid working hypotheses; what is different is your scope for action. If you are happy to live in your present box, you can afford to have beliefs that are carved in stone. If you see room and a need to expand your horizons, you need a more flexible belief system, and you may come a cropper because of that. But then you take a risk every time you cross the road. You even take a risk just staying alone at home with no one to check whether you’ve had a heart attack. So if you can’t take a risk, what on earth are you doing here?

“How did we begin to (religiously) believe in what we couldn’t see?” The first rational believer might have started out quite simply by seeing someone get eaten by a lion approaching from behind, or for that matter struck by lightning. No one ever survived long who thought they had all bases covered.

[giovonni]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

I agree. Self definition is key, and even when standing in a forest of billboards- the option exists whether to read them or shut one's eyes and look within.

As a former fashion designer the discussion often revolved around why one put on the clothes
one was wearing. Whether conscious choice or unconscious, manipulated ...a lot can be learnt there about oneself and others.

Araucaria mentioned fashion in one of his posts...how the elite are not about upholding traditions, but are about the latest fashion (in thought at least, even though their clothes may be classics, toned down, preppy, expensive)
And Shane may be an example of this latest fashion amongst members of the elite: hey, let's all create the memes that will mold masses of people.
And to give him credit, I do believe he has distanced himself from the more manipulate meme makers of his ilk, and really is trying (maybe just experimenting) with guiding people to a mind-expanding experience.

Well to be honest, and sensing a (your) soliciting of my opinion on Shane's material ...

I simple trust and go by my energy attraction - And frankly I wasn't ...

Though the material contains aspects of a very creative narrative.

PS ~ What's obviously most important (here in the aftermath), is affording
those members who wish to express and expand upon Shane's writing.

[ulli]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

I agree. Self definition is key, and even when standing in a forest of billboards- the option exists whether to read them or shut one's eyes and look within.

As a former fashion designer the discussion often revolved around why one put on the clothes
one was wearing. Whether conscious choice or unconscious, manipulated ...a lot can be learnt there about oneself and others.

Araucaria mentioned fashion in one of his posts...how the elite are not about upholding traditions, but are about the latest fashion (in thought at least, even though their clothes may be classics, toned down, preppy, expensive)
And Shane may be an example of this latest fashion amongst members of the elite: hey, let's all create the memes that will mold masses of people.
And to give him credit, I do believe he has distanced himself from the more manipulate meme makers of his ilk, and really is trying (maybe just experimenting) with guiding people to a mind-expanding experience.

Well to be honest, and sensing a (your) soliciting of my opinion on Shane's material ...

I simple trust and go by my energy attraction - And frankly I wasn't ...

Though the material contains aspects of a very creative narrative.

PS ~ What's obviously most important (here in the aftermath), is affording
those members who wish to express and expand upon Shane's writing.

Actually, Gio, I wasn't even expecting a response.
But thanks anyway.
So, no soliciting of any kind.
My efforts are more to do with getting my own views clarified, for myself,
and writing sometimes helps with that.

Also, as long as I attribute dark motives to others,
I have homework to do, and need to ask myself not only how would I even know what their motives are,
(and no matter how psychic, no one can ever be 100% sure of another's motives)
but also what does this tell me about the deeper layers of myself?
Been on the self exploration path for so long now that I sometimes forget that I leave myself open to being misunderstood.
But that's ok.
Just joining the ranks here of what thoughts this discussion provokes in me,
especially when comparing Shane's storytelling style to Corey's, and their respective programming backgrounds.

[giovonni]

Posted by araucaria (here)
Interesting article: when it comes to why we believe, it speaks only for the religious believer. The rational believer/disbeliever has his own rational reasons: I believe I can’t walk through walls, because to date I have come to grief every time I have tried to pass through so much as a door without first opening it. Someone tells me I can walk through walls? Fine, just show me, without taking the skin off my nose.

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
i like this ...

To Believe or Not to Believe that is the question ?

Another question, which is not addressed very often.
"what kind of person do you become as a result of your accepted beliefs?"
Because the options are endless once fear-based beliefs have been dumped.

Ah ...

That's up the individual ...

But what's most important for me, is allowing others to decide for themselves ...

Working it all out is what life's all about.

The linked article gives the example of the rational believer who believes the earth is flat, because he is always vertical when walking around. This is a handy parochial view that overlooks the fact that there would have to be a place where you might fall off; but it is always somewhere else. Another rational believer might believe the earth is round because he has been everywhere and never fallen off. Both are valid working hypotheses; what is different is your scope for action. If you are happy to live in your present box, you can afford to have beliefs that are carved in stone. If you see room and a need to expand your horizons, you need a more flexible belief system, and you may come a cropper because of that. But then you take a risk every time you cross the road. You even take a risk just staying alone at home with no one to check whether you’ve had a heart attack. So if you can’t take a risk, what on earth are you doing here?

“How did we begin to (religiously) believe in what we couldn’t see?” The first rational believer might have started out quite simply by seeing someone get eaten by a lion approaching from behind, or for that matter struck by lightning. No one ever survived long who thought they had all bases covered.

When I was a younger man, risk taken was my forte ...

And one great risk I took (and don't regret) is letting go of my religion ...

Still many the risk Ive taken (bite hard back) and left of me many lessons in scars ...

As I've grown older, risk taking ain't what it use to be ... giggle

[ulli]

Belief has more to do with what makes a person than their race or cultural background.
And when we go through enough maturing processes we learn what it really means to be responsible. And I don't just mean this in terms of a responsible person, but that core responsibility, that we can effect life around us, just via our belief structures.
And this morning, since starting to participate in this thread again, I have opened random pages on the web, and the subject of belief has been popping up like never before.
And just over on FB, an entry from an American neighbor who has retired here in Costa Rica aroused my curiosity, as it had a photo of Oprah Winfrey, and I was curious where this staunch republican Christian might stand with regards to Oprah.
And so I opened the link. And found a most interesting article about a mini series which was produced by Oprah and will be aired in the near future and it is called "Belief".
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...elieve/411151/