Canada Election : Vote for whoever you wish but vote!

[Gaia]

Never elections were as tight in the polls. For the first time in my life, I voted Liberal in advance polls today, to make sure to not split the vote and be very sure to get rid of the quiet dictatorship of Harper and I know a lot of people and friends who do that too during the last weekend. Justin's rise is the result of a campaign based on hope and optimism instead of a campaign of fear and intolerance.

This election is not so much about Trudeau gaining in the polls but more about Harper trying to destroy the country while seeking another mandate. Harper has tried to instill fear in Canadians using terrorism when that didn't work he has split the country through his divisive tactics trying to get the "Old Stock".

Busy advance polls today in my area of Québec with a lot of peoples.

Conservatives are ruining this country and Canadians want to make sure they stop Harper from becoming PM so they are out in large numbers. Check the latest surge in the polls! So far, more than 1.6 million people cast ballots in the federal election during the first two days of advance polls, which opened on Friday. This is a 34 per cent increase from the 2011 federal election, according to Elections Canada.

The latest nightly tracking by Nanos Research for CTV News and The Globe and Mail completed on the holiday weekend has the Liberals in the lead at 35.7 per cent.

Tracking released on Oct. 12 shows:


• The Liberals at 35.7 per cent support nationally
• The Conservatives at 28.9 per cent support nationally
• The NDP at 24.3 per cent support nationally
• The Greens at 4.8 per cent support nationally


Leaving the poll with my spouse we could not believe we had to vote Liberal. We are separatists.This speaks volumes about our level of disgust about Harper and the Conservative party.

Gaia

What are your thoughts on the Federal election?

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
Yes, it's important to vote but please look at your ballot for the number on it. At the polling station when you check in to vote the number by your name. Not many people believe that we don't live in a democratic country. ( Definition is vote in secret and private ) We get to vote in private but not secret!
Then remember do you want a dictator running the country or someone that is trying to make Canada a better place by bringing the national debt down to zero. Or creating a country where there are more jobs. Or wiping out poverty completely. Or actually tell the truth instead of untruths all the time. Or work for peace in our world and not war and killing. In other words make Canada and the world a much better place to live!
Good luck
chancy

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
Thought I would say another thought....what if the polls are fabricated? What if the liberals are not at 35.7 percent? What if the NDP is leading and everyone votes liberals and then the conservatives get another majority? The conservatives have hundreds of millions of dollars in their war chest. What if this is another way of winning the election with a majority?
Just a thought.....
chancy

[Gaia]

Posted by chancy (here)
Hello Everyone:
Yes, it's important to vote but please look at your ballot for the number on it. At the polling station when you check in to vote the number by your name. Not many people believe that we don't live in a democratic country. ( Definition is vote in secret and private ) We get to vote in private but not secret!
Then remember do you want a dictator running the country or someone that is trying to make Canada a better place by bringing the national debt down to zero. Or creating a country where there are more jobs. Or wiping out poverty completely. Or actually tell the truth instead of untruths all the time. Or work for peace in our world and not war and killing. In other words make Canada and the world a much better place to live!
Good luck
chancy

Chancy thank you , it is true that the most important is to vote and many Canadians do not exercise this right ... More importantly this time , Elections Canada requires our signature now. I find it reassuring today.

It's sad, it's even hopeless , but it is the cruel truth . How else to explain that consideration be given to re-elect a Conservative governement despite a scandal of the magnitude of the Duffy case , despite a foreign policy ignoring UN resolutions violated by Israel for over half a century , despite the abolition of the gun registry , the abandonment of the Kyoto protocol targets , the constant reduction of humanitarian aid abroad, bill-C51 and so on ? If I can reassure you Chancy I work as a clerk for Election Canada since 1992 and polls are not arrange at least not in my city ''Québec'' .

[Gaia]

Posted by chancy (here)
Hello Everyone:
Thought I would say another thought....what if the polls are fabricated? What if the liberals are not at 35.7 percent? What if the NDP is leading and everyone votes liberals and then the conservatives get another majority? The conservatives have hundreds of millions of dollars in their war chest. What if this is another way of winning the election with a majority?
Just a thought.....
chancy

Luv it!!! Go to Vote fellow Canadians!! So proud of Blue Rodeo for this! Wonder if Harper is flattening their bus tires....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y3C1SWVquXA

https://youtu.be/y3C1SWVquXA

Your pipeline will spill its disease
You shut down all the research libraries
And you muzzled all the white coats in your laboratories
Then you set your sites on the CBC

You’re stealing all my dreams
You’re stealing all my dreams

Whatever happened to our democracy?
Well, this train came into town, the Reform Party
Little King, Stevie, & his monarchy
Behind the closed doors of corporate-ocrasy

You’re stealing all my dreams
You’re stealing all my dreams

He likes an enemy conspiracy
Greatest threat to mass security
He’ll throw me in jail cause I disagree
And I’m so scared of your oil industry

‘Cuz I love the rivers & I love the stream
But, I’m scared for the children & the babies
I love the forest & I love the trees
Have you forgotten that you work for me?
You can start by honoring a treaty

You’re stealing all my dreams
You’re stealing all my dreams

War planes, computer games, robo-calls & Senate shame
It’s a crime if I descent
Supreme Court held in your contempt

Native women, not a priority
Sometimes I wonder... just how you sleep?

You’re stealing all my dreams...



Thank you Blue Rodeo for this kick-ass anti-Harper song! And go to Vote in Mass that's the only way...!!


Come on guys, let's say goodbye to the CONservative governement on October 19, 2015!

[EWO]

I voted too, one thing that upset me is that they give you a pencil, WHY so they can erase it and put the X on the other guy.
So i made sure my X is carved as deep as it could be, they wont be erasing my vote hehe

[Carmody]

Your problem is that the power behind the politics will not allow the nightmares that Harper predicated and created, to be removed or changed.

It will be as it is in the USA, where the promises are made, then the new person is elected.... but none of the changes that should never have taken place will ever be rolled back when the new person and new party is in the federal offices.

Nothing ever gets rolled back, as that is the history of two party systems, that is what they were created for, to confuse the primitive mind of the human body, one where it is looking for which way to run when presented with a danger.

Run this way, or stay still, etc.

The idea of an election plays on the deepest components of the being, with respect to following the motion and act of the clan leader, the lead monkey of the group.

Show me a place where the changes were rolled back into some thing effective for the population and I'll show you a place with no oligarchical influences that are hiding in the backdrop. A place where the sociopaths have been put on hold, and it is a place where they will renew their infiltration tactics with much vigor.

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The only place I can think of right now, is Iceland, a place previously too small to deal with and a smaller population, and isolated... thus.. infiltration and control of infiltration issues, so the real message of what is happening --- can get out, almost undisturbed, almost true to itself.
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As most here (hopefully) know ---- there is no election in any western country --- there has never been an election in a western country in hundreds of years, which has remotely been any form of a real election...

There is only a hidden war of oligarchs and elites and secret groups, a war which they desperately desire to have remain hidden from the public. A public which would cut them to pieces if they only were given the chance to understand.

If the public begins to know then none of them can play their games, their levers and controls on people and society begin to dissipate, so none of the combatants desire for the fodder and the food (the people > a weaponized grazing animal) to have any knowledge or understanding of the hidden war. On that one thing, they are all in unanimous agreement in motion and act.

[Carmody]

I'll say that there is no doubt that Harper is taking Canada down the road to a form of enhanced vassal based fascism. Where all democratic structure that elevates and educates people is torn and eradicated. To ripen Canada for total rape and total control.

That has been his job, his official requirement, his marching orders, from day one.

This is due to the fact that Canada has to be taken apart in order for the the power mongers based in the USA (and the extraterritorial fascism of Nazi corporate origin), to have their 'North American Union'.

The rest of the US power structure hardly disagrees with the premise and direction, but they might disagree with the severity of the acts and motions. But they would still maintain the 200 year old desire, push and direction of turning Canada into a true broken vassal state for absorbing into their power structure. The struggle is about who gets to be in control, in the fluidity and directions created in their various factional motions and acts.


An example, of Indonesia being torn down and vassallized at the same time.

Just look at what these hidden structures and wars have done to Mexico, these proxy wars and motions, all purposely hidden from the public, by all sides who are in this pitched battle. So much so..... that any exposure threatens any and all hidden combatants.

Which is why it is unlikely that anything would ever be rolled back if Harper loses the election.

[Carmody]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q5L8NG0HzYE

Getting rid of Harper is only the very first step, like tying your shoe to go on a long arduous journey.... to commit to a battle ....that will not end, until years after you are long dead.


These systems are, in modern form, dozens of years old,

based on and incorporating structures that are are, in current form, hundreds of years old,

in turn based on groups and directions that are thousands of years old.

If you want a better world, you have to go ALL IN.



If enough people committed to that sort of understanding, we'd get it cleared up fast. Only a few decades!

Too many people are weak, fearful, afraid, and also don't want to know, don't want to understand.

To keep it clear, requires a permanent guard and permanent watch in the self, to bar the door from their influence and attempts at influence. Forever. As long as humans exist, to be on guard and in protection mode. Forever. If you rest for a bit, you'll lose it all.

It has to be incorporated at the level of breathing and heartbeats, a form of permanence in life and living.... just like murder, animalism, brutality, rape, power mongering, wars, insanity, etc, which is incorporated into the very life essence, breath, and heartbeats... of the sociopaths and psychopaths who stalk, fill, and seek to be in the halls of power, so that they can fulfill those drives that lie deep within them as core emanations of who and what they are.

Kinda like what has happened in the past decades. Misdirected and fed sleeping pills by and from a Janus and multi-faceted oligarchy.

[Carmody]

Apparently an encouraging sign has erupted, one of the advance voting.

Normally, this would be a thing attended to by 'patriots' the overt conservatives of the population, the marching up and down the square' types. Who are almost, to a person, of a conservative nature and type.

This election, there was a surge in advance voting to the tune of a 77% increase.

The bet or guess is that it is the Liberal and NDP types who are going out of their way to vote, and vote early.

Again, this premise, due to the fact that the conservative types have always done what they do, and always did vote early if they could, if they felt they needed to do so.

Fundamentally, a 77% change means something is definitely different this time around.

[giovonni]

will share this here ...

Posted by giovonni (here)
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Canadian Election

"Canada is about to have a major election. John Oliver enlists Mike Myers, a beaver,
and a moose to give voters some advice."

Published on Oct 18, 2015

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0V5ckcTSYu8

[Carmody]

Goodbye Stephen Harper, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Now down to the business of making sure the Liberals tear down some of the conservative insanity. That will be the hard part.

[Carmody]

Now Canada is back at the problem that it had when Stephen Harper came in.

The comment from my grandmother, who had been through, for the most part, two world wars. She said the one thing, when she first laid eyes on Harper, "He is a schoolboy! He is in charge of Nothing!"

After a few moment of reflection, we all realized that this was undoubtedly true.

The question is now.... who runs Justin Trudeau?

And,

can Trudeau get some items through,

or will he be forced to do things like Obama,

or will he be tossed aside after he has been used as a 'memory meme figurehead' to win the election..... and the true leaders of the Liberal party step in and take the reins? (this can happen in Canada)

The only strong point in this whole scenario is that in the act of sweeping change of the government, real people with real ideals can get into the system and make real changes. When it moves slow, as in after some insider is in power for quite some time, the filters and controls can develop and settle in,and thus the capacity for the given government to produce real change for the population is curtailed.

The next problem is all the parasites, the embedded compatriots that the Harper government may have and will have injected into civil servant positions, in the military and the like.

What will the embedded parasites do? Will they be pulled out or will they give the new government grief? Probably both. Invariably both. Some will play long games, some will play short ones, building up problems over time, or striking with targets of opportunity.

Who is exactly who in this mess?

Another problem is, will some of the aspects of the given defeated hidden oligarchical grouping (defeated public face and public levers only) commit to the act of false flags on Canadian soil, in order to try and roll back some of what may emerge? To take developed Harper problems (hidden and otherwise, even created ones) and dump them in the face of the liberals and Trudeau? Or create new ones, to pull new ones out of hats like rabbits, the ones they set up and/or prepped and researched, etc....just for this purpose? Yes indeed, that is a time honoured distraction and off balance putting technique, expect it like breathing and the sun coming up.

After all, this is about getting to a north American union as a vehicle that could be singularly driven and controlled..a 200 year old dream tied to a more modern insider fascist group hug, and most sociopaths will double down, triple down, or quadruple down, long before admitting defeat.

Right now, the people and mechanism that ran the Harper machine, I'd bet my bottom dollar that it is digging into the background of every single newly elected Liberal party member, looking for problems, real or ones that can be created..... collating, digging, discovering,...getting the data together in order to create scenarios, in order to hold them or use them like political cards, where they can use them to strategically defeat any motions toward a functional humane Canada, a Canada like that which used to exist in the past.

Winning an election is like tying your shoelaces, you have not even managed to get out the door. The real work is not even close to beginning. The only possibility is that the chance, the possibility exists that it might be done, if everyone stays on it, 100%, 110%, for the entire idea of the future and the rest of their lives. Opportunity is given, nothing more, it is now...all battle all the time, just like it always has been.

[mosquito]

Trudeau ?!?

Justin Trudeau.

Hint hint hint hint "TRUDEAU". Heard that name anywhere before, O Canadians ??

Electing someone with the surname Trudeau and expecting change is a bit like your southern neighbours voting for someone called Bush or Clinton and expecting utopia and freedom.

Get hold of a good dictionary and look up the word "dynasty". Sit and meditate on the meaning and implications of the word for at least 5 minutes.

Don't get me wrong - you're well rid of Harper (assuming that Justin doesn't find a place for him in the next cabinet) but really ...

Human de-evolution continues as planned.

Prediction - if our species is still around (which I hope it isn't) then the victor in the 2040 Canadian election will be one Cuthbert Harper, hailed as a true libertarian and champion of Canadian sovereignity.

Apologies that the above is a set of short statements/questions rather than an essay. It's difficult to convince my brain to behave in a more disciplined way when I see stupidity slowly taking hold of a species with such amazing potential. Especially as in this case, which I would describe as Trojan horse stupidity. (The younger electorate being persuaded they are making a difference by "electing" an establishment candidate who is marketed as something else altogether).

The land of nod beckons, where I can detach from this soap opera and contemplate my next incarnation as a tree.

[Carmody]

The key is in the newly elected officials. 184 of them.

They can't all be insiders, it's too much in the way of new.

Things will have an opportunity to be opened up, as these 184 people aren't all on the same insider path.

The thing to watch, is the smaller comments, the bit pieces, the small bits of notice, actions, and missives from these 184 individuals, as they discover who really tries and pushes hard... to hold the reigns of power.