The Coneheads of Peru

[Atlas]

[Atlas]

[Bill Ryan]

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Thanks for this thread. These Paracas skulls are very highly strange, and have interested me for a long time.

They're NOT the results of head-binding... the cranial volume is huge (not just deformed, i.e. the normal human volume in a different shape).

The largest skull measures over 2,500 cc... that's one-and-three-quarters the volume of a regular human cranium (which averages 1,440 cc) (This all means that their brains were larger, as well.) And in some cases, the parietal plates (the interlocking component sections of the skull) are quite different from human anatomy, too.

Look at these photos. Some of them are not human, or fully human. On visual inspection, this seems self-evident.

[Rex]

In addition, many of them have 2 cranial plates instead of three. There are additional holes which are presumably paths for nerves. These are not mutations but wholesale differences that would show up as a major differences in DNA. Brien Foerster has had DNA analysis performed and the preliminary results show that they aren't us.

[Nasu]

Great posts. The sag-ital growth plates are quite a clue, IMHO, these things are not human! I know a girl in the west of America who was born with a double set of teeth. They removed them in some way so that now she is "normal" however, it turns out her father was the same and also had them removed.. Ancient dna link to our past maybe? I've not heard of this sort of thing anywhere else though, the double rows of teeth, has anyone else heard of this outside of the US?... N

[naste.de.lumina]

Princess Ginevra d'Este - Pisanello - Museu do Louvre


Medal - Leonello d'Este (1441-1444) - Princess Ginevra d'Este cousin



Medal - Isote Ariminensi - Leonello d'Este wife

List of descendants of the House of Este

The House of Este was a family of Italian nobility, who held the title Duke of Modena. They are the ancestors of many royal houses.

British royaltyEdit
All British monarchs since George I of the United Kingdom have been descended from the House of Este. George's father, Ernst August, was a member of the house of Welf, who are descended from the House of Este.

Also, the Jacobite "pretenders" James Francis Edward Stuart, Charles Edward Stuart and Henry Benedict Stuart were descended from the House of Este. This was due to the mother of James Francis Edward, a Modenese princess, Mary Beatrice d'Este.

The following British consorts are also descendants of the House of Este-

Queen Mary Beatrice (Mary Beatrice d'Este) (1658- 1718), the wife of James II of England, who was also James VII of Scotland (reigned 1685- 1688).

Queen Caroline (Caroline of Brunswick) (1768- 1820), the wife of George IV of the United Kingdom(reigned 1820- 1830), as her mother was the sister of George III of the United Kingdom.

Queen Alexandra (Alexandra of Denmark) (1844- 1925), the wife of Edward VII of the United Kingdom (reigned 1901- 1910), as her mother's family, the German princely house of Hesse- Cassel, were descendants of George II of the United Kingdom.

Queen Mary (Mary of Teck) (1867- 1953), the wife of George V of the United Kingdom (reigned 1910- 1936, was the great- grand- daughter of George III.

Philip (b. 1921), the husband of the reigning queen, Elizabeth II (reigning since 1952) is a descendant of Queen Victoria's. Also, his grandfather was the brother of Queen Alexandra.

OtherEdit
As descendants of Queen Victoria, the royal families of Norway, Sweden, Spain (through the paternal grandmothers of the reigning kings), and Denmark (through the present queen's mother).

Source: http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Li..._House_of_Este

[Atlas]

Lithograph by D. Leopoldo Mueller from the Spanish 1851 Edition of Peruvian Antiquities

[Atlas]

Those eyes

[zen deik]

Interesting....

[Ewan]

I was reading (skipping) through the OP and shaking my head sadly, some of the stuff Childers came out with back then. (Don't know if he's more up to speed now). I was about to mention that headbinding cannot change the cranial volume when I discovered Bill had already mentioned it, so that leaves me with my own little theory...

I concluded that the practitioners of various headbinding forms had developed the practice as a form of emulation, wanting to mimic the 'great teachers' that had been in contact with their people at some time. When we are children we want to copy those that impressed us.

(And now I see from reading (skipping) through post 2 in the thread that is mentioned also. So it's not MY theory, it's a theory).

[Tyy1907]

Posted by Nasu (here)
Great posts. The sag-ital growth plates are quite a clue, IMHO, these things are not human! I know a girl in the west of America who was born with a double set of teeth. They removed them in some way so that now she is "normal" however, it turns out her father was the same and also had them removed.. Ancient dna link to our past maybe? I've not heard of this sort of thing anywhere else though, the double rows of teeth, has anyone else heard of this outside of the US?... N

I knew a guy in high school that was born with six fingers and six toes. They were cut off as an infant. His hands still have bumps on the ends where the extra knuckles were

[Rex]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Atlas, where is this picture from?

[Ikarusion]

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
I knew a guy in high school that was born with six fingers and six toes. They were cut off as an infant.

that sounds kinda f'ed up.

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by Rex (here)

Posted by Atlas (here)

Atlas, where is this picture from?

If you right click on an image it gives you an option to 'Search Google for this image'

You will git a list

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

Posted by Rex (here)
Atlas, where is this picture from?

If you right click on an image it gives you an option to 'Search Google for this image'

You will git a list

My browser doesn't offer that option ... however with a little messing around, I found many similar images that can be found by searching Google Images for "mangbetu tribe".

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Rex (here)

Posted by Atlas (here)

Atlas, where is this picture from?

Image of the Mangbetu tribe of Congo. The people from this tribe certainly look a lot more like the ancient Egyptian royalty than any current Egyptian or other Africans.

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Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

Posted by Rex (here)
Atlas, where is this picture from?

If you right click on an image it gives you an option to 'Search Google for this image'

You will git a list

My browser doesn't offer that option ... however with a little messing around, I found many similar images that can be found by searching Google Images for "mangbetu tribe".

Or ... you can just snip the image URL, go to google images, click the camera icon in the search box and paste the URL, Google will find anything that looks close. Extremely handy tool. This might be what you did, but were shy to give a way the secret

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All,

I received two e-mails today from a medical professional who's had the opportunity to examine some of these skulls... not the Paracas skulls in Peru, but some very similar 'cone heads' discovered many years ago in a burial mound in Wisconsin.

I've redacted identifying details by request, and edited the content slightly for easier reading. The two messages are most interesting and may be very important. The person who wrote to me had of course seen this thread.

The bold emphasis in the messages below is my own addition.


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I do not belong to your forum, but please know that I read it frequently.

In the 1980s, I and a number of a colleagues, some of whom I’m still in touch with today, all witnessed, handled and examined the skulls described below.

In homo sapiens (human beings like us), there are 12 (twelve) cranial nerves that arise from the under the surface of the brain in to make up the nerve center in our heads.

After the nerves leave the cranial cavity by way of small foramina in the skull, they extend to their specific destinations.

When we examined some of the 'cone heads', we found the following interesting physical facts:

• These skulls had 13 (thirteen) cranial nerves. I'll say that again. Thirteen. Not twelve.

• There is no lambdoidal suture or occipital bone, and there is no squamous suture line but just a coronal suture only. Even the orbit of the eye is nothing like the shape of a human. They appear more 'monkey-like' as the frontal bone angle is somewhat flat compared to ours.

• The fifth cranial nerve in this being is distinctly mutated and different than a human’s. This would be the trigeminal nerve in humans. It appears to be set up more as a 'quad' geminal nerve in this species.

• Also different is that there was no parietal bone, temporal bone or proper positioning of the infraorbital foramen or the mental foramen in the mandible.

• In addition, both were shaped entirely different for the nose and maxilla and vomer, which again showed no evidence of a line where the two sides join as in humans. Perhaps we are the one with the mutated nerve?

• I will also note that the foramen in the mandible on these cone heads was too far back for it to be where it is in a human mandible.

• In short, these are massive, and much bigger than homo sapiens craniums. We are talking 2500 cc seen in these larger 'cone heads' with thirteen cranial nerves vs 1400 to 1440 or so cc skull capacity for brain size in a human.

Contrary to how this evidence is handled, these are irrefutable physical facts presenting concrete differences, which constitute proof on their own that this is something other than a human.

No DNA tests are really needed here other than to further the study from that basis. You simply do not get this growth in mass or the addition of a 13th cranial nerve by deformation techniques.

In my professional opinion this is another species willfully being ignored by science.

The secret is out. They call it the royal skull shape, the 'Pharaoh skull', for a reason. Royals claim their right to rule by lineage to a long head clan who had a naturally longer head and was not human. Ancient priests wrote about that, and the evidence is also in museums.

(second e-mail, after I'd asked some questions)

Only the royals had 13 nerves. Just three that we knew about exhibited the extra nerve count.

Everyone present came to the same immediate conclusion, upon view of tattoo-like remains of old blood supply lines and nerve lines still intact on the one side of the skull, but dried and brittle, of course.

But they only would conclude it was something else privately. None to date will go on the record.

The lines and shapes of arrangements for blood and nerve in the skull remained, and were visible until touched on the inside of the skull where it was somehow preserved.

Seen with any good modern pocket flashlight before disturbance, one could peer through the trepan hole using true white light. The lines visible we believe were preserved by the way the skull sat when the brain decayed.

To the best of my knowledge, the skulls are still in a basement in a museum in Wisconsin where they were originally found.

In these digs, researchers discovered that they were the oldest remains in the area and the deepest (well below original ground level for the mounds) and there were certain tells related to each find.

Where cores were drilled into mounds that used to be very near rivers, if they found caliche and diatomaceous earth within the core, they would find royal tombs at the deepest level containing long heads.

The soil the royals were buried in was different on purpose over that used to bury others later, as that deeper soil was more 'peat'-like, and dark.

It is my understanding they shut up about that afterwards, to keep people from finding them. Subsequently, they found more by knowing where and how to find them.

Apparently, the scholars concluded the fact that many mounds started out as seashell and fish bone debris that the anti-flea anti-insect nature of this soil made it prime living areas that were fought over due to making life easier before the advent of pesticides.

They concluded the area was hotly fought-for, which explained why so many humas layers between cultures existed on the way down to the very bottom where they only found the 'cone heads'.

'Round heads' are all that are found high up on the mounds. It’s only deep and only those of seashell and clam debris with this as they called them midden piles. As it turns out, they are also land claims with the principal rule being simply "my ancestors are buried here, therefore it's mine".

Articles about them published in the 1931-32 Illinois State Blue Book say they were distinctly taller than natives, but 6' 2" [188 cm] maybe, and (they think) no more. However, the heads were massive on the ones with the extra nerves.

The museums of Chicago and one in Wisconsin both took the finds of Atzlan, where some of the skulls were reportedly so large one could wear them like masks. Others were normal, but when they distinguished them in this document they referred to the finds as 'long heads' and 'round heads'... their words.

The scholars of the time, every one of them archaeologists and PhDs, all accepted these were a separate race from the so called indigenous tribes. They referred to them several times as 'the original ancestors' and/or ‘original occupants’.

In summary:

If one knows what to look for, and finds a skull exhibiting foramen on the posterior plate of the skull, you have the 13th nerve evidence to show.

The evidence can be seen in the Paracas skulls on Brien Foerster's site that appear very similar to, if not larger than, our find.

To my knowledge, one can still schedule with the museum(s) in Wisconsin and go see the skulls they have there. They do still have them, as someone else informed me. They admitted that when he inquired.

I not recall the name of this museum, but there are not that many there. In Chicago, that has the finds, and the library of the University has the blue book... or they did, including the full page fold-out centerfold of one of the long heads.

[name, profession, and photograph of professional certification all supplied]

[ks4ever]

High all,
These skulls have been found on almost every continent and I am hopeing we may find some on the East Coast of Australia in the near future.
Two preliminary Dna test results of the Paracas skulls have revealled that the largest of the skulls was not in any way related to homo at all and are a new species.
Keep an eye on the news from Brien Foerster from Peru over the next year or so for more news on these tests and others which are about to get underway soon.

[Hervé]

Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skull released – with incredible results

5 February, 2014 - 13:47 aprilholloway

Featured Image: An elongated skull found in Paracas

Paracas is a desert peninsula located within the Pisco Province in the Inca Region, on the south coast of Peru. It is here were Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928 – a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world. These have come to be known as the ‘Paracas skulls’. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, which are believed to date back around 3,000 years. A DNA analysis has now been conducted on one of the skulls and expert Brien Foerster has released preliminary information regarding these enigmatic skulls.

It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time. It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter its volume, weight, or other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull.

The Paracas skulls, however, are different. The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening. They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two. The fact that the skulls’ features are not the result of cranial deformation means that the cause of the elongation is a mystery, and has been for decades.

An artist’s impression based on a Paracas skull. Photo credit: Marcia Moore / Ciamar Studio

Mr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the local museum, called the Paracas History Museum, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from 5 of the skulls. The samples consisted of hair, including roots, a tooth, skull bone and skin, and this process was carefully documented via photos and video. Samples from three skulls were sent to the geneticist, although the geneticist was not given any information about what they came from until after the genetic testing, so as not to create any preconceived ideas.

The results of a DNA analysis of one of the skulls are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings:

It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans.

The implications are of course huge. “I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree,” the geneticist wrote. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.

The result of this analysis is only phase one of many phases of analysis due to take place. The next tests will involve having the initial test replicated, and conducted on other skulls, so that the results can be compared to see if there are any specific Paracas characteristics. We will update when more details emerge.

Watch the video interview with Brien Foerster revealing new details about the genetic analysis.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Qsj5QyB1bk

[Hervé]

As for some of the Wisconsin finds:


From: http://www.southmilwaukeenow.com/blo...187467521.html

A Giant Mystery: 18 Strange Skeletons Found in Wisconsin: Sons of God; Men of Renown

Posted by Kristan Harris on Jan. 21, 2013

Giants where found in Racine last year. I had a chance to update this blog posting. I have been getting many emails about this topic and find that across Wisconsin there are more stories like this popping up. So you are wondering what is a giant and if it is what you are thinking that I have to be kidding you! Well I am not. They are as real as apple pie and whiskey. For over a year I have been reading books and information on giant dig sites and finds. I would like to share some of the information with you that is right at your finger tips.

First, One must wonder how much can a giant lift if twice the size of a average human today? Could they be responsible for Stone Henge and the Pyramids? Are these the Giants the Bible & many other civilizations have in their history and painted on their walls. The Bible in Genesis 6:4 " There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old men of renown. " Now this is faulty logic to any scientist out there because I am using religious/cultural history to fill a hole in science.

Over 200 Giant digs have been found in recent years. Giant skeleton finds have not made the local/national news since the 1950's for the most part. It seems in most peoples opinion do to the fear that people would question evolution. If anything a de-evolution.

Their heights ranged between 7.6ft and 10 feet and their skulls "presumably those of men, are much larger than the heads of any race which inhabit America to-day." They tend to have a double row of teeth, 6 fingers, 6 toes and like humans came in different races. The teeth in the front of the jaw are regular molars. Heads usually found are elongated believed due to longer than normal life span.

Here's one for your "Forbidden Archaeology" file. My research uncovered a fantastic article by Mark Shernick among other great finds.



Scientists are remaining stubbornly silent about a lost race of giants found in burial mounds near Lake Delavan, Wisconsin, in May 1912.

The dig site at Lake Delavan was overseen by Beloit College and it included more than 200 effigy mounds that proved to be classic examples of 8th century Woodland Culture. But the enormous size of the skeletons and elongated skulls found in May 1912 did not fit very neatly into anyone's concept of a textbook standard.

They were enormous. These were not average human beings.


Strange Skulls
First reported in the 4 May 1912 issue of the New York Times the 18 skeletons found by the Peterson brothers on Lake Lawn Farm in southwest Wisconsin exhibited several strange and freakish features.

National Geographic Reports
In 2002, National Geographic reported a dozen Cyclops skeletons found in Greece that stood 12-15 1/2 Ft tall. That is 3 humans tall.. One eye socket. Giants in history are typically cannibalistic in nature. The reason why I am bringing up giants will all tie into politics, and word happenings. Look at a basketball hoop and add 5 feet. That tall. Greek Mythology talks about war with cyclops learning they had to bring down by taking out their legs rendering them slow and helpless. American Giants (Red Hair Giants) where found with egyptian writing on their tombs have been found in multiple locations.

Mystery of The Wisconsin Giants
This is no farm boy hoax or stunt by your local prankster. As I am finding that dozens and dozens of similar finds of instances are popping up nation wide.

As Mark reported, the Lake Delavan find of May 1912 was not the first to make the local newspapers from 1851 forward to the present day. Giants have been found all across Wisconsin on farm lands in in mound digs.

He goes on to report that on 10th of August 1891, the New York Times reported as posted below that scientists from the Smithsonian Institution had discovered several large "pyramidal monuments" on Lake Mills, near Madison, Wisconsin. "Madison was in ancient days the centre of a teeming population numbering not less than 200,000," the Times said. The excavators found an elaborate system of defensive works which they named Fort Aztalan.

The question we should be asking is why are these skeletons not in our history books. Why are Giants not taught in school as part of history. This shows that Giants are a species and not a blurp on the evolutionary map or illness. If anything it is proof of something that science is scared to give us a real answer on that it can. What are these beings genetic relation to humans. I would love to see a non government independent study since many government scientists seem to be rubber stamps do to the sake of evolution and the continual onslaught against the family. If you ask me that sounds more like a religion than a science. Real science is disproving theories. Not trying to make your theory fit to a puzzle of a different picture but I will let you decide for yourself. Why would the government not want you to know about a human race that was 9-18 ft tall?



The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up
Most Giant mysteries end at the Smithsonian Institute. Is this a giant cover-up? Why aren't there public displays of gigantic Native American skeletons at natural history museums?

Some of the smaller skeletons are certainly on display. If you feel you can not believe your eyes you can go visit a skeleton at the Aztalan State Park where you can see the skeleton of a "Princess of Aztalan". So what is the cover up then? The skeletons placed on display are normal-sized, and according to research I have done seem to end at the Smithsonian institute.

More Specifically, the Smithsonian Institution has been accused of making a deliberate effort to hide the "telling of the bones" and to keep the giant skeletons locked away from the publics eye. I think there are answers that need to be given.



Have you or your family found giant skeletons on your farm or rural family owned land? Its not as uncommon as you think. Please contact me with information I would love to hear your story and put it in a book? Would love to others who have done research! Please contact me!




The news no longer reports these discoveries.

I am doing research and investigation.

Thank you.
For Liberty, For Freedom

Kristan T. Harris

Sources:
Anon. "Strange Skeletons Found: Indications that Tribe Hitherto Unknown Once Lived In Wisconsin," New York Times, 4 May 1912

Anon. "The Wisconsin Mounds: Interesting Relics of Pre-Historic Civilization" New York Times, 10 August 1891

Burlington News, "The Princess of Aztalan" (Photos), Mound Builders page

Dahly, Terje "Old Newspapers Are Serious About Giant Skeletons" from the "Giants: Did They Live?" website

Deloria Jr., Vine. Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact (Fulcrum Publications, 1997)

Hamilton, Ross. "A Holocaust of Giants: The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up" Xpeditions Magazine website.

Sutherland, Mary. "Giants . . . Giants . . . Giants . . . Giants" A Big Page About Giants, BUFO Radio / Burlington News website

Unknown. "Greater Humans" page. Greater Ancestors World Museum website

Wikipedia, "Aztalan State Park" Wisconsin