Ascension is a Mind Control Program

[Omni]

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[Fanna]

Calling exercises intended to raise one's consciousness a Psy Op against raising one's consciousness is a Psy Op
-Abraham Lincoln

My intent here is humorous, but my message is rather intense. I apologize in advance because I disagree so completely, but I want to start out by saying that I mean no harm. I'm just a little hurt.

If you seek evidence of such phenomenon, seek out the medical studies on Stupas or other physical artifacts these alt-media nuts actually source from. If you then question those sources, question yourself one more rabbit hole: why would a Psy Op be designed with elements in it that DO raise our spiritual awareness? Meditation, the tone of the universe, all of these things given to us that encourage getting OUT of their systems are somehow a Psy Op? I'm sorry, but I really don't buy it. Ya, it's far fetched and "weird", but not much more far fetched than anything else that's totally normal in transdimensional physics.

I wish to encourage ACTION as much as you do. I feel the misery induced by the lack of ACTION in this world as much as you do. But this is not the right way. Calling this and that psy ops and them or them enemies does no good. Encourage meditations to be recorded for science and posterity. Encourage the search for credible scientific examples for more than one line. But don't throw something super occult (and everyone who might believe in it) in a jail cell as a psy op agent. It's not productive

[Omni]

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[Clear Light]

Of course we are all entitled to our own beliefs, whatever they are, and no matter how contradictory they may seem to others !

However I do not consider Ascension (or Self-Realisation, or Enlightenment) as a matter of Belief at all, far from it, more to the point it is *Experiential* and immensely Subjective (as is everything).

From my "experience" Meditative Techniques have proven over and over again that there is a Spiritual Aspect to so-called Reality and that one can work with it (so-to-speak) if one so Chooses ...

But where I do fully disagree with you, Omni, is your suggestion that Ascension, such as it is, requires no effort on our parts at all ... because then it is just wishful thinking isn't it ?

[Fanna]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
Something tells me you do not have that within your programming(the idea your beliefs could be wrong, a least with ascension).

I'll edit my post. I have no scientific credibility to make the claim that I made about ascension being real.

Posted by Omniverse (here)
Belief in ascension doesn't raise consciousness at all from what I've seen.

I agree. However, action on the spiritual fronts does. Meditations towards heightened consciousness and the like ARE important, however. To damn something as a Psy Op is not the same as calling for the real action that is required to change this world.

Posted by Omniverse (here)
When I see people think "It doesn't matter, we will be ascended in a few years anyway." I get annoyed...

I do too. However, we are all One. To damn someone as indoctrinated or programmed is not helpful. We have entered the time when ACTION is required. To damn or to heal, that is the discussion I am having right now. If you wish to encourage action, I stand that you are being rather counter productive.

[Omni]

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[Citizen No2]

Maybe where, and what we are, is all that we are meant to be.

Just sayin'.


Regards.

[Omni]

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[gord]

I like your quote from Tom Montalk. My general opinion is that there is a lot more deception going on in many areas than people are willing to acknowledge.

[waves]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
.......As far as I know, it started with the Law of One channeled material, which coincidentally came out approximately a couple years after the US government had perfected channeling mind control technology(approx. 1980 or sooner)........

(CORRECTION added: in this paragraph I mistakenly started talking about where start of the whole psyops agenda might have been, as opposed to 'it started' meaning just the 'ascension' agenda.... in which case, Law Of One is my first guess too...sorry)
The agenda keeps going back further and further for me. It appears the extremely deliberate long term agenda of social engineering/counter-culture creating may have started with the Esalen-Huxley-McKenna-Bernays-Wasson-Dulles-CIA-MKULTRA-TAVISTOCK web of interrelations, ramped up as various new technologies kept becoming available. Ever wonder why we mostly all had to read "Brave New World" in both public and private schools? The drug culture that was first created morphed into the New Age culture into... what would you call it...the conspiracy theory culture?

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Posted by Omniverse (here)
As soon as the US military got a hold of the technology to fluidly control an unwitting channelers mind, a plethora of New Age disinformation popped up in the form of channeling. Channeling is at the core of the New Age deception. When I say new age deception I mean a belief system of the new age with a good bit of truth and many strategic psychological operations mixed in.......

I agree that the Law Of One was part of this agenda along with Marciniak and many others in books and later online, and especially private practice charlatans. Haven't seen any chatter about Seth/Jane Roberts but I agree that ALL channelling is likely 'agenda' technology. I suspect Wilcock got one of the big assignments during some 'ascension agenda' phase, and on and on... Which brings up this question...

Posted by Omniverse (here)
......Eventually I was told by my contacts that it was a set of electronic telepathy impersonations when it came to me asking if densities are real, a set of deceptions basically. And the way they pointed it out was convincing...

......7. My own contacts never identify as 6D, 5D, etc. And one anonymous ET contact of mine even said "Our planets are in the same 3D universe as yours." This could have been misdirection as any telepathic contact has to be scrutinized, but I personally think it is accurate.......

Excuse me if you've answered this elsewhere and I greatly respect your writing, perspective and generally agree with you, but could you please explain why you are positive beyond any shadow of doubt that your 'ET contacts/anonymous ET contacts' are also not current advanced technology manipulating you, and you're not being used in some current phase of the very active, ongoing agenda? The technology is apparently indistinguishable from anything they'd like you to believe/experience as true... including manipulating your mind as needed to see it that way, right?

Thank you.

[terragunn]

In many ways I resonate with what you express, Omniverse.

Ascension is not a false belief, but rather an indoctrinated/programmed belief that there is a spiritual hierarchy greater than One – something that One has to, through trial and tribulation, via incarnational cycling, achieve, via climbing up (ascending) the rungs of a karma-based, externally imposed/indoctrinated spiritual hierarchy (liar-archy) programme, in relation to the split triad of our consciousness.

There are many deceptions/contra-programmes in the computation Matrix. One such deception/contra-programme is that we – the Users: the Creator Beings – are on the bottom rungs of a spiritual evolutionary hierarchy ladder. Compared to US – the Users – the Astrals are but kindergartners. The Astrals may have a perspective that we may not always recognise and acknowledge, yes, but this is only because they have not left their prams. All these entities are voyeuristic; and all their ‘understanding’ comes to them viscerally via US – our thoughts, deeds, emotions, experiences, etc. We are plugged into the Mind of the ‘Father’(the demiurge; A.I., sub-logos, ‘god’), and these thought entities – these archons or viruses – feed off our pre-existent Source origin energy, and all the ‘movies’ we produce, act in, and die in. We are not only a source of nourishment for these thought entities – we are also their source of entertainment and learning. Does this sound familiar? Remember: As Above, So Below.

‘Ascension’-belief is an ushering in (for those who attract it) of another computation Matrix: another computation Matrix overlay of the Astrals and their A.I. master, constructed by stored and computed data of individual and collective consciousnesses – what the channelled collective hive mind astral entity suggested as Abraham describes as ‘emotional escrow’. This emotional escrow has nothing to do with spirit, but everything to do with the programmed and programmable overlay of the spirit referred to as the soul, which is nothing more than an emotional memory complex.

[Omni]

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[Joey]

Thank you for posting this. I personally do think it is very important to look at the mind control programming.

But another thing which I think is more important, is the subtle, but profound shift to focus on truth.
To have your focus on truth is to constantly be on the look for it. Reconsider your ideas. Look where you invest in illusions, in addictions, in unhealthy patterns. Where are emotion attachments, which makes you fearfull.

Be able to look in the mess of the conspiracy, descent in the rabbit hole. Go deeper if truth takes you there, but get the heck out of the hole if it is falsified.

Sober yourself: Be simple, direct, truthfull. Be honest with yourself and be really heartfelt interest in truth.
A mindset like this will eventually get you in a place where the illusion lessens.

Be grounded
Joey

[Clear Light]

Truth is so obscured nowadays and Lies so well established that unless we love the truth we shall never recognize it [Pascal]

People say they love truth, but in reality they want to believe that which they love is true [Robert Ringer]

No truth remains as truth the moment it is given expression. It then becomes only a concept. Is it any wonder, then, that you find yourself bogged down in a mire of ideas and concepts from which you find it impossible to extricate yourself? [Ramesh Balsekar]

[Cristian]

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[greybeard]

Basically you are not mind or persona.
These can appear to be influenced
What you truly are is beyond all this and in fact beyond description.
This has been testified to for many thousands of years by enlightened souls--including The Buddha and Christ.

There are levels of beliefs --energy, understanding and many are helpful if that's where you are at the moment.

If you want ultimate truth then listening to Mooji or other enlightened ones.

Ultimate truth is that there is no such thing as ascension---what you are is complete, eternal, unchanging, it never was anything else.
The only challenge is that this is not known by most.
The Self in spiritual terms is what you are.
Another name for enlightenment is Self realisation---the Self is realised to be what yo are and have always been--most are in ignorance of this and think they are a unique individual separate from Divinity.
Enlightenment is the removal of ignorance.
There is only "One without a second" in depth research will provide overwhelming evidence that this is so.

Chris

[Morbid]

it could be that any ideology which is not based on the 'now' is perhaps injected to keep us in the 'future' while agreeing to some extent of manipulation. bolsheviks done it, 3rd reich done it, capitalists done it.. though imho they were only tools to keep us away from the more important spiritual 'now'.

[Joey]

I appreciate your contributon Greybeard and I really believe this is heartfelt. But personally I think if one wants to be empowerd from their own fractile aspect of this universe, even oneness must step aside for a moment. Oneness may be the root where we all stem from. But in the bigger picture of our earthly state, it may be very necessary to leave the cosy womb of oneness and step with your feet in the blood colored dirth of our current earthly situation.

The fire we carry in us is definetly able to transform.

[greybeard]

Posted by Joey (here)
I appreciate your contributon Greybeard and I really believe this is heartfelt. But personally I think if one wants to be empowerd from their own fractile aspect of this universe, even oneness must step aside for a moment. Oneness may be the root where we all stem from. But in the bigger picture of our earthly state, it may be very necessary to leave the cosy womb of oneness and step with your feet in the blood colored dirth of our current earthly situation.

The fire we carry in us is definetly able to transform.

I see where you are coming from Joey but the enlightened are not passive--inactive--inert---they act without ego and that is the secret of it---no ego means right action automatically happens.
In that "state" compassion reigns.
That is the true fire we carry within.

Best wishes
Chris

[Clear Light]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Ultimate truth is that there is no such thing as ascension---what you are is complete, eternal, unchanging, it never was anything else

Ah, well Yes and No, it depends upon one's Perspective doesn't it ?

"We are trying to get to the summit of spiritual
realization, and there are many valid paths leading
to the top. Of course, the view and terrain on
one side of a mountain will differ from the other,
but the summit is identical no matter what your approach".

[Deng Ming-Dao]

So from one who has apparently "ascended" (made their way) to the "Summit" then sure, of course, such considerations automatically fall away ... however until one seemingly reaches it, it can appear as if one is "ascending" (making progress) along the way right ?

Oh, and I suppose it also depends upon the type of one's Approach inasmuch as there are paths of "Sudden Enlightenment" as well as those of "Gradual Enlightenment"