The Alex Jones Show and then there's Bill Ryan

[christian]

Posted by KevBoh (here)
I think that he is angry too much, really angry eyes.

Walk a millimeter in his shoes.

Posted by KevBoh (here)
We will never take back the planet if we have anger, as it leads to hate, and the the great Master Yoda would say ''the dark side are they' and wrong he isn't.

Anger doesn't always lead to hate, it can lead to anything you create. You're the alchemist. Anger is not necessarily destructive, it can be used as fuel.

Posted by KevBoh (here)
There is too much commercialism to his programmes.

Too much for your taste? Don't watch it then.

He's offering products and not forcing anybody to buy them. Lots of people do buy them and appreciate their value. Let a man make a living.

Posted by KevBoh (here)
I have also noticed, that he will talk about any ethnic or religious group, but he never mentions Jews or the Zionists, NEVER EVER.

He's always calling for understanding among ethnic groups and always emphasizes how ethnic groups are being played against each other by the establishment. He does talk about Jews and Zionism, just search for it.

For me personally, Alex is informative and entertaining. I find myself encouraged and empowered by listening to his show. Consider that what you're saying about Alex also reveals a lot about yourself.

Please excuse my harsh tone, I do appreciate your input.

[Hummingbird]

I disagree whole heartidly and think everyone is showing a kind of disrespect to a man who has done more for the truth movement then 99% of the population. He is a genuine man! How many of us could have millions of veiwers and listerners everyday and stay geniune and show your true colors on air?

Its costs alot of money to run an operation as far reaching as infowars, and helps way more people than one person behind a keyboard.

As for the health products Dr Edward Group is one of the best in the supplement industry.. I had used his products personally aswell as treating family and clients, before him and alex got lined up.
I know several people including myself who have done multiple liver gullblader cleanses with great results, so i can vouch for his products!

He put his brand on a GREAT line of products.. thats most are too busy criticing instead of using what our fellow man created to better our experience.

Alex is the best place to tune in daily for daily news! He has some great reporters at infowars..

What Bill posted on the front page relates to this.. People want glittery glowing esoteric hopeful truth after they get awakened..( even though its usually Alex that helped wake most up) They tend to start rationalinzing the darker side of the truths and think we are gunna meditate our way outta this..

We are still in the 3rd dimension, so maybe we should all focus on wordly 3rd demensional things we can change NOW, not hoping we are getting saved..

[WildOrchid]

Posted by KevBoh (here)
Hi All.
If I remember rightly, in one of Bill's latest newsletter, he emphasized, and quite rightly, that we have to listen to people like Alex Jones and David Icke. I can't help but feel there is something off about Alex Jones.

I think that he is angry too much, really angry eyes. We will never take back the planet if we have anger, as it leads to hate, and the the great Master Yoda would say ''the dark side are they' and wrong he isn't. Lately, I can't seem to take Alex Jones seriously. There is too much commercialism to his programs. He's selling these so called 'medicine' in a bottle, that is like an antibiotic, or does the job of an antibiotic.

No one on this planet is perfect! And while I completely agree that constant anger is annoying and generally does not create peaceful revolution or pleasant environments,
there comes a time where anger is a correct emotional response. There are things going on on this planet right now that are so evil that it's OK in my view to get angry from time to time and let some steam off.
Just don't make a habit out of it!

Alex Jones and others like him, stick their necks out, they have courage, they put themselves in danger. That does not mean they are perfect or have no faults, but they do what they feel is right, and they do it as best as they can to wake up the "herd" and provide us with current news and information.

“He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help.”
― Abraham Lincoln

[Shannon]

Alex jones reaches a wide range of people who wouldn't open them selves up to the topics discussed by Bill and Kerry, not that one type of awakening is deeper than the others and Alex isn't deep, it's more accessible and his loud pissed offness brings in people who have major beefs are are mad too...which is fine, when I'm righteously pissed I seek out some validation and jones def helps sometimes. I think he's majorly important to this fight. And sadly, it is a fight.

Imo, I can't see him being a disinfo agent, I don't think the ptb are in the business of waking up the masses.

[TargeT]

Posted by Caliban (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
Alex see's the "weakness" of the masses that flock to his message and leverages it beautifully for his own benefit.

Posted by TargeT (here)
I've said for years that Alex is either controlled opposition or just a "useful idiot", a sort of drain trap for those who start to get uncomfortable with society, and settle slightly out of the "Blind belief in TV" to the "blind belief in Alt-media ...

I'm leaning more to "useful idiot" lately, allowed to continue for his ability to collect the "strays" that wonder from societies beaten path ...

I hear people constantly talk about what "great information" Alex puts out there, "amazing information" that he dishes out to us waiting in the glow of our Laptop screens. As if more and more of that "secret" "inside" information is going to somehow change our lives on this planet. Just a few more pieces of the puzzle and then... what??

I often think that "our community" is addicted to information. We take it in, many of us, like a junkie takes in smack. Guess what--information ain't gonna save us. Being authentic, growing, transforming into our greatest selves, that will likely do it. I think most of prefer to just keep getting more "information" shoveled in, rather than really engaging with who we are and what and who is around us.

Yes, TargeT, you can say AJ is Useful, but not an idiot, I think. What I think now is he's neither with the CIA or any other such outfit. Rather, he's with AJ. He's doing it all for himself, for that giant ego that you can see plainly on your screens. He doesn't really care about wonderful changes happening -- no, silly, then what would he do with himself all day? What and whom would he rant at? As I said above, during Occupy Wall Street it became crystal clear that he was not in our movement towards beauty and truth and joy. He's about conflict. And information... Information...

I meant useful idiot from the sense of ... "TPTB" (which I hardly believe in anymore, at least not as a single unified entity) Those that control the media will allow an Alex jones because they view him as a "useful idiot" for the reasons I eluded to above.

Yes, information (interesting, conspiratorial and EXCLUSIVE or "I understand it and you don't" types are highly valued by this community) sate the average Alt Media viewer, and by sate, I mean Sedate really.

Lack of action is exactly what you want from these questioning soles, lack of action is exactly what Alex Jones message is (aside from "BY IODINE!" or "BUY SEEDS" or "BUY UFO INSURANCE" which is effectively worse than lack of action, since it drains the ability TO act through fear based purchasing).

You see controlled opposition and useful idiot are very much the same thing most the time.

I got into Alt media with the Charles video back in 2011 (the time I joined this board) I idled my time away posting here (quite a bit at first) and gobbling up as much as I can. I fell into the factions of the Alt-sphere, I fell FOR some of the bullcrap, and over all wasted about 2 years of my life in "Alt" land.

Then I had clarity (thank you psilocybin !) my epiphany was this:

INFORMATION IS USELESS WITH OUT FOLLOW-ON ACTION!

I sold my house, I sold every thing I have, I looked all over the world for a place that correlated with the information I had gained, where I thought I would be most successful,, I even inquired here on this forum about my decisions.

But the crux if it is this: I acted.

I moved somewhere I knew I could be self sufficient (in time, if not immediately), I jumped in with BOTH FEET and started a horse rescue with in a year of moving here (I saw a need and filled it, it sounds so simple now) I started working with kids from the projects (via the horse rescue) and fundraising for charities and have built a "name" for myself here (accidentally).

Basically: I acted, I did the opposite of what A. Jones encourages (or any alt media guru honestly, they ALL basically advise inaction or "buy XXX" at best)

Everyone can do this, it's surprisingly simple, amazingly gratifying and, well, Fun!

Now I'm working on creating a Model for Caribbean (tropical more accurately) self sufficiency on my property. Hardly any of this is done sitting in front of a computer, most if it is applying knowledge learned to the real world (as much as possible) something that I do not think you find in the Altverse because it breaks the common tenant of humanity : Seek the easiest path.

My signature is my motivation.

what are you DOING to make your reality fit your concept of what "should be". that's the only question that needs to be asked (aside from "is my intent to do good?")

I think all of this came from breaking free of Alex Jones, but honestly, would I be here with out his initial offerings of information? Did I need that FEAR based propaganda to move me in the right direction? Ultimately I would say yes.

So while A. Jones might be a useful idiot to those who's policies I do not agree with, he's my useful idiot as well.

[WildOrchid]

Posted by Hummingbird (here)
I disagree whole heartidly and think everyone is showing a kind of disrespect to a man who has done more for the truth movement then 99% of the population. He is a genuine man! How many of us could have millions of veiwers and listerners everyday and stay geniune and show your true colors on air?

Its costs alot of money to run an operation as far reaching as infowars, and helps way more people than one person behind a keyboard.

As for the health products Dr Edward Group is one of the best in the supplement industry.. I had used his products personally aswell as treating family and clients, before him and alex got lined up.
I know several people including myself who have done multiple liver gullblader cleanses with great results, so i can vouch for his products!

He put his brand on a GREAT line of products.. thats most are too busy criticing instead of using what our fellow man created to better our experience...

Hummingbird:
Who's everyone.....?
With exception of a couple, most of the replies on this thread seem fairly positive.