Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

[Clear Light]

Posted by observer (here)
Perhaps you like dwelling in this Living Hell. I speak to those who have grown weary of the Free-Will-Game....

With respect : WHO is the One claiming to be "Living in Hell" ?

[greybeard]

Hi Observer
I suspect that you & I and several others are on the same page as far as Cern --reincarnation etc are concerned, we perhaps just have different ways of looking at how to "get out of here". (Being here, a separate individual, in a body is the illusion)
Im with Clear Blue Skies --no self no problem.
Who is this enduring?

This line of questioning comes from the late Ramana Maharshi enlightened sage.

Depends on whether one wants to stay in duality, endure and reincarnate, or realise the Self.
To my mind the more you try to right wrongs, fix things, the deeper you buy into duality.
People have been trying to make wrong right since time began--has that worked?

Every war has been fought over Im right, your wrong, I want some thing you have. I want to change things for the better, the end justifies the means-- basically rampant ego positions.

Cern is evidence of this ego. Could say no ego no problem.

I don't expect agreement with my take on this.

Chris

[CD7]

Posted by Clear Blue Skies (here)

Posted by observer (here)
Perhaps you like dwelling in this Living Hell. I speak to those who have grown weary of the Free-Will-Game....

With respect : WHO is the One claiming to be "Living in Hell" ?

HELLs resident right here!!! ....but we have found it is not evil its just run by retards...

[gripreaper]

"A FORMER politician [Simon Parkes] has made the extraordinary claim that he stopped the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) opening a portal to another dimension that would have destroyed mankind"

Wow, how exciting! Simon Parks stopped the evil psychopathic alien interlopers from releasing the Nephilim back into our earth dimension and destroying mankind! Thanks Simon!

From the mouth of an Intelligence Community Whistleblower, no alleged extra-terrestrials can be trusted. Mr. Swerdlow's background comes from the same Global Intelligence Community that has their finger-on-the-pulse of what is really happening behind all of the smoke-and-mirrors of This Particular Reality. Mr. Parks appears to be just another "Simon-Says" Extraterrestrial-Mind-Control-Program.

Ah sh!t, I was just about to go back to drinking beer and watching football cause I thought the whole nefarious agenda was taken care of by Simon, and now we’re talking about just another mind control program?

This reality we live in really is screwed up!

[observer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
[....snip]
I don't expect agreement with my take on this.

Chris

How correct you are, Chris.

Our debate goes way back to the days of ol' RedeZra and the early days of this current version of the Avalon Forum.

The fundamental difference between how you perceive reality and the way I perceive it lies in a single fact. A fact which you never have seemed to accept. I can say that because you are forever quoting the Sages, and Wise Men in your comments and replys; to the point that I've come to ignore what you are saying. I'm certain that feeling is mutual, as well.

The single, most significant difference in our ideologies is: "I believe EVERYTHING we've ever been told is a lie", and it appears to me, that you don't.

It's just that simple....

From my life-long investigation into how this reality really works; a deep investigation into what dwells behind the smoke-and-mirrors of reality; one might come to a conclusion where all prophecy, all the words of the sages, clairvoyants, seers, channelers, remote viewers, or whatever other nametag one might hang on the phenomenon - all of this is the result of advanced Artificial Telepathic Technology.

Our reality has been manipulated since the Dawn of Man, by hyperdimensional entities who feed on humanities energies, and....

"They are very clever at what they do".

[araucaria]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
[....snip]
I don't expect agreement with my take on this.

Chris

How correct you are, Chris.

Our debate goes way back to the days of ol' RedeZra and the early days of this current version of the Avalon Forum.

The fundamental difference between how you perceive reality and the way I perceive it lies in a single fact. A fact which you never have seemed to accept. I can say that because you are forever quoting the Sages, and Wise Men in your comments and replys; to the point that I've come to ignore what you are saying. I'm certain that feeling is mutual, as well.

The single, most significant difference in our ideologies is: "I believe EVERYTHING we've ever been told is a lie", and it appears to me, that you don't.

It's just that simple....

From my life-long investigation into how this reality really works; a deep investigation into what dwells behind the smoke-and-mirrors of reality; one might come to a conclusion where all prophecy, all the words of the sages, clairvoyants, seers, channelers, remote viewers, or whatever other nametag one might hang on the phenomenon - all of this is the result of advanced Artificial Telepathic Technology.

Our reality has been manipulated since the Dawn of Man, by hyperdimensional entities who feed on humanities energies, and....

"They are very clever at what they do".

Observer, your debate might go back all the way past the deluge, maybe it is time really to understand what Chris is saying. I am not taking sides in an argument here; simply Greybeard’s position encompasses yours, while the opposite is not the case.
Since Chris may tire of answering for himself, it seems to me he is saying, why do you set such store by “everything we have been told” instead of listening to your inner voice? There is only me, in which case you have to internalize those hyperdimensional entities and say, “I am very clever at what I do”, namely deceiving myself. When you do this, you find you are in control, and you stop being manipulated – unless of course that is what you enjoy doing to yourself. “They” and “we” are not the terms of a lie, they are the lie. Since it is you who are very clever, you can undeceive yourself; and if you want to continue the game, then take it to a new level of knowingly deceiving yourself.

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
[....snip]
I don't expect agreement with my take on this.

Chris

How correct you are, Chris.

Our debate goes way back to the days of ol' RedeZra and the early days of this current version of the Avalon Forum.

The fundamental difference between how you perceive reality and the way I perceive it lies in a single fact. A fact which you never have seemed to accept. I can say that because you are forever quoting the Sages, and Wise Men in your comments and replys; to the point that I've come to ignore what you are saying. I'm certain that feeling is mutual, as well.

The single, most significant difference in our ideologies is: "I believe EVERYTHING we've ever been told is a lie", and it appears to me, that you don't.

It's just that simple....

From my life-long investigation into how this reality really works; a deep investigation into what dwells behind the smoke-and-mirrors of reality; one might come to a conclusion where all prophecy, all the words of the sages, clairvoyants, seers, channelers, remote viewers, or whatever other nametag one might hang on the phenomenon - all of this is the result of advanced Artificial Telepathic Technology.

Our reality has been manipulated since the Dawn of Man, by hyperdimensional entities who feed on humanities energies, and....

"They are very clever at what they do".

Observer, your debate might go back all the way past the deluge, maybe it is time really to understand what Chris is saying. I am not taking sides in an argument here; simply Greybeard’s position encompasses yours, while the opposite is not the case.
Since Chris may tire of answering for himself, it seems to me he is saying, why do you set such store by “everything we have been told” instead of listening to your inner voice? There is only me, in which case you have to internalize those hyperdimensional entities and say, “I am very clever at what I do”, namely deceiving myself. When you do this, you find you are in control, and you stop being manipulated – unless of course that is what you enjoy doing to yourself. “They” and “we” are not the terms of a lie, they are the lie. Since it is you who are very clever, you can undeceive yourself; and if you want to continue the game, then take it to a new level of knowingly deceiving yourself.

Well said, araucaria. Integrating is a process. Each time a stranger becomes a friend there are less "thems" out there.

And accepting that the universe has a few shoulders left to lean on, such as Greybeard's sages, is just as important as being alert to the fact that deception is an AI trap. The ultimate filter system is in one's own heart/head.

[greybeard]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
[....snip]
I don't expect agreement with my take on this.

Chris

How correct you are, Chris.

Our debate goes way back to the days of ol' RedeZra and the early days of this current version of the Avalon Forum.

The fundamental difference between how you perceive reality and the way I perceive it lies in a single fact. A fact which you never have seemed to accept. I can say that because you are forever quoting the Sages, and Wise Men in your comments and replys; to the point that I've come to ignore what you are saying. I'm certain that feeling is mutual, as well.

The single, most significant difference in our ideologies is: "I believe EVERYTHING we've ever been told is a lie", and it appears to me, that you don't.

It's just that simple....

From my life-long investigation into how this reality really works; a deep investigation into what dwells behind the smoke-and-mirrors of reality; one might come to a conclusion where all prophecy, all the words of the sages, clairvoyants, seers, channelers, remote viewers, or whatever other nametag one might hang on the phenomenon - all of this is the result of advanced Artificial Telepathic Technology.

Our reality has been manipulated since the Dawn of Man, by hyperdimensional entities who feed on humanities energies, and....

"They are very clever at what they do".

Observer, your debate might go back all the way past the deluge, maybe it is time really to understand what Chris is saying. I am not taking sides in an argument here; simply Greybeard’s position encompasses yours, while the opposite is not the case.
Since Chris may tire of answering for himself, it seems to me he is saying, why do you set such store by “everything we have been told” instead of listening to your inner voice? There is only me, in which case you have to internalize those hyperdimensional entities and say, “I am very clever at what I do”, namely deceiving myself. When you do this, you find you are in control, and you stop being manipulated – unless of course that is what you enjoy doing to yourself. “They” and “we” are not the terms of a lie, they are the lie. Since it is you who are very clever, you can undeceive yourself; and if you want to continue the game, then take it to a new level of knowingly deceiving yourself.

Thank you araucaria
Yes everything arises and subsides within the ocean of consciousness---nothing is denied.
Everyone’s views are encompassed within but seen as a level of consciousness at play.
You are the field in which everything arises and falls ---as consciousness---beyond even consciousness is awareness which has no movement but is the presence which see everything which arises and is eternal and unaffected---there before Universes existed and will be there after they subside.

That's as best I can explain my understanding.

Chris

[observer]

Since the earliest available recorded histories of man; whenever an ideology has failed the control agenda; at every point in history, when the appearance of a "breaking-free" was apparent; a new ideology was introduced to recapture those souls wishing a release from this prison matrix.

Prehistorically, when all else has failed, a total restart was initiated, causing a total restart of all timelines.

Much like a new computer program, all sorts of hypnotic mantras have been installed into the Mass Consciousness of Humanity in order to maintain a level of control, to the benefit of a certain few of the Global Elite. This process has been historically, the work of hyperdimensional entities. I'm suggesting a reoccurring template of action, obvious from a thorough study of history, i.e., history always repeats itself.

Those "inner voices" you are all clinging-to, are the mantra of control, reverberating within your heads. It all sounds so melodiously resonant; so easy to cling-to.

Posted by araucaria (here)

[....snip]
"....simply Greybeard’s position encompasses yours, while the opposite is not the case."

Your analysis couldn't possibly be any further from the mission, araucaria.

Where all those members who regurgitate the popular mantra of whatever trendy ideology is in the pop-culture - like a fundamentalist does with dogma - I see these hypnotic mantras as an Artificial Telepathic Suggestion, i.e., "one's inner voice" - a very clever deception, wouldn't you agree?

On the other hand, and in direct inverse to the rhetoric of these popular ideologies, my agenda is one of exposing the deception.

My message is intended for only a few among us. Most will reject what is said, as evidenced by this current response with my reply to Chris.

[araucaria]

Posted by observer (here)
Since the earliest available recorded histories of man; whenever an ideology has failed the control agenda; at every point in history, when the appearance of a "breaking-free" was apparent; a new ideology was introduced to recapture those souls wishing a release from this prison matrix.

Prehistorically, when all else has failed, a total restart was initiated, causing a total restart of all timelines.

Much like a new computer program, all sorts of hypnotic mantras have been installed into the Mass Consciousness of Humanity in order to maintain a level of control, to the benefit of a certain few of the Global Elite. This process has been historically, the work of hyperdimensional entities. I'm suggesting a reoccurring template of action, obvious from a thorough study of history, i.e., history always repeats itself.

Those "inner voices" you are all clinging-to, are the mantra of control, reverberating within your heads. It all sounds so melodiously resonant; so easy to cling-to.

Posted by araucaria (here)

[....snip]
"....simply Greybeard’s position encompasses yours, while the opposite is not the case."

Your analysis couldn't possibly be any further from the mission, araucaria.

Where all those members who regurgitate the popular mantra of whatever trendy ideology is in the pop-culture - like a fundamentalist does with dogma - I see these hypnotic mantras as an Artificial Telepathic Suggestion, i.e., "one's inner voice" - a very clever deception, wouldn't you agree?

On the other hand, and in direct inverse to the rhetoric of these popular ideologies, my agenda is one of exposing the deception.

My message is intended for only a few among us. Most will reject what is said, as evidenced by this current response with my reply to Chris.

And what mission would you be referring to, Observer? Intended for what happy “few”? Your agenda of “exposing the deception”? It is no more than a slogan if it involves lashing out at everyone else as being part of the deception. The Avalon mission has no agenda as such, beyond seeking greater cohesion and happiness among all people. By divisively addressing some unidentified minority, you are failing that agenda.

And how can you talk to me about “the earliest available recorded histories of man” being in any way reliable enough to draw any valid conclusions from them? What happened all of a sudden to “EVERYTHING we've ever been told is a lie”. I might actually be inclined to accept some of that stuff, but you should be throwing it out, all of it. Now if we are talking about deception, then self-contradiction like that would surely be a part of that “agenda”.

‘"One's inner voice" - a very clever deception, wouldn't you agree?’ Er, no, I emphatically disagree. I prefer any day to listen to my own voice than to your mantras: “history always repeats itself”, “they are very clever at what they do” etc. How come these “hypnotic mantras” of yours are not subject to Artificial Telepathic Suggestion while other people’s are? I object in the strongest terms to your accusation of “regurgitating” anything. Everything I say on this forum is substantiated by thousands of detailed, interlocking posts conflating extensive original thoughts of my own and the work of many others. History does not always repeat itself in any exact form: repetitive history has no place for my original thoughts and conflations. You are ignoring mountains of material that does not fit in with your pet theory.

[greybeard]

Along with inner voice--which I dont really have,(as in guiding) is a quiet mind which I do have most of the time.
"Be still and know that I am (is) God."
We are all the "I am"

So all the sayings of Christ and The Buddha are deception and to be thrown out?
Dont think so.

Something happens in the stillness--in the quietude that has no logical explanation--there is a wordless knowing that can not really be described.
The power within is beyond understanding and compared to that CERN is what!!!!

Chris

[observer]

ad hominem, araucaria?

In whose interpretation of what I'm saying was I,

Posted by araucaria (here)
"....lashing out at everyone else as being part of the deception."

Only an individual whose paradigm has been challenged would characterize the message I deliver as a, "lashing-out".

Additionally, it is you who is misconstruing the terms being used. When an observation is made regarding the untruthfulness of "everything we have learned", and discovering that constant through a thorough review of the historic record, how is this a contradiction?

There are several members who have managed to take this CERN thread and derail it into a debate that should belong in the Spiritually Forum.

As the OP of this Thread, I invite those members wishing to debate this issue to take it to that the appropriate forum.

[naste.de.lumina]

This video is very crazy my friends ....

This video is called "Turbulence" and was created for an October 9, 2015 CERN TedxTalk called "Breaking the Rules." Other than CERN's Symmetry trailer, this might be the most upfront display of occult symbolism associated with CERN that I have ever seen. The trailer is very creepy...

The original video is posted to Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/142364749) and is also used on CERN's website. I do not own this work. I am reposting the work to point out the symbolism used in it. I credit the owner of the work in the actual video as well.

EXTREMELY CREEPY CERN New Video Released: Shows Oculus/Rise of the Phoenix

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbC1YWSyt4Q

Someone also saw the black sun?

Naste.

[heyokah]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
This video is very crazy my friends ....

This video is called "Turbulence" and was created for an October 9, 2015 CERN TedxTalk called "Breaking the Rules." Other than CERN's Symmetry trailer, this might be the most upfront display of occult symbolism associated with CERN that I have ever seen. The trailer is very creepy...

The original video is posted to Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/142364749) and is also used on CERN's website. I do not own this work. I am reposting the work to point out the symbolism used in it. I credit the owner of the work in the actual video as well.

EXTREMELY CREEPY CERN New Video Released: Shows Oculus/Rise of the Phoenix

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbC1YWSyt4Q

Someone also saw the black sun?

Naste.

From the TEDxCERN site:

Where does gold come from?

David Lunney | 2015

Did you know that gold is extraterrestrial? Instead of arising from our planet’s rocky crust, it was actually cooked up in space and is present on Earth because of cataclysmic stellar explosions called supernovae.
CERN Scientist David Lunney outlines the incredible journey of gold from space to Earth.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jf_4z4AKwJg

ADD

David Lunney


David Lunney is the Director of Research at France’s CNRS and Head of the nuclear physics group at the CSNSM, Université de Paris-Sud.
After slinging protons through the McGill University cyclotron for his PhD, he now hangs around CERN’s radioactive beam facility ISOLDE, transmuting lead atoms into gold.
Always ready to discuss physics topics – especially over a beer – David believes that nuclear physicists have much to offer society and are not nearly as dangerous as most people think.

[Nick Matkin]

My threshold of 'creepy' must be quite high then cos I didn't find that video creepy...

[heyokah]

From the CERNTRUTH site, which I've mentioned before and didn't get much attention at that time.....
add

Posted by heyokah (here)
see ........

UPDATE. APRIL 2015. CERN PREPARES COLLISIONS AT DOUBLE POTENCY…

I. Theoretical Risks


[.....snip]

In the fall of 2015 CERN will begin colliding groups of 70 million lead hadrons at 287 tev, unpacking millions of quarks in each collision. Those quarks will be first accelerated at light speed, acquiring relativistic mass, becoming heavier strange quarks, the substance of a strange quark-gluon soup called a ‘strangelet‘. The strange liquid has the potential to become stable and start an ‘ice-9′ big-bang reaction. If that happens that effectively transforms the Earth into a pulsar.

While CERN adamantly denies to the public and the press that production of Strangelets is possible, it runs a program called CASTOR for Centaruro And STrangelets Object Research, whose researchers affirm in their inner reports to the company the ‘likely’ probability of creating them. This is in accordance to the most advanced literature on the subject, but of course, it must be hidden to the public and the naive press…

This simple fact – that CERN is just a quark cannon that deconfines and gives heavier mass to quarks, transforming them into the next ‘horizon’ of heavy mass, strange quarks, which eat up planets might seem amazing to the reader, submitted to the ‘rhetoric’ of research and the blatant lies of this institution, a left-over the cold war, ‘refurbished’ with a newspeak of research. But this is the bottom line, simple truth about CERN. CERN says its experiments are similar to cosmic rays, and this is false.

Cosmic rays are mere single protons and gamma rays and electrons, light particles, NOT heavy lead atoms, massed in bunches, crashed to create quarks. So WE NEVER saw a deconfined quark in a cosmic ray.
.........

https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/


This documentary is worth watching.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ovdXq5KitUg

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RHIC is distillating strange liquid

https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/rhic/

[observer]

^^^^

Thank you heyokah, for that "strange matters" video.

Any member who is commenting on this thread, and doesn't believe there is a real threat from a total Ice-9 meltdown into a black hole, really needs to view that "strange matters" video before making another comment, here within this thread.

The video begs the question, "what has happened to all the strangelets already produced at Brookhaven, and at CERN"? Are they already collecting in a liquid mass at the center of the Earth? Is the Critical Mass reaction already in progress, needing only a little more mass to begin the unstoppable chain reaction predicted by so many nuclear physicists?

Please, to the members, do some research and most of all do some critical thinking....

In response to comment #295: anyone who doesn't find the entire CERN phenomenon "Creepy", is dwelling in a state of willful ignore-ance.

[Nick Matkin]

In response to comment #295: anyone who doesn't find the entire CERN phenomenon "Creepy", is dwelling in a state of willful ignore-ance.

I was clearly referring to the video.

Anyway, I thought extraterrestrials (the good ones) would prevent us from doing anything really stupid. If they can close down US and USSR nuclear-missile silos at will, they probably won't sit back if they think we could turn the solar system into a black hole - will they?

[observer]

^^^^

Thank you Nick,

I though, perhaps, you hadn't reviewed all the comments in this thread prior to making that one regarding naste's comment #293. That's why I only referred to your comment by its number, and I addressed my reply to "anyone".

With regard to those, "good extraterrestrials" coming to save Humanity, please review the videos provided in comment #279, of which I've conveniently provided the full text, below:

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Clear Blue Skies (here)
Bill's "Project Avalon" interview with Simon Parkes mentioned in a UK "tabloid" newspaper, the "Daily Express" : 24 October EXCLUSIVE: 'I stopped Large Hadron Collider destroying human race', claims ex-politican

Oh I have no idea if the article made it into print as well as being on their website because I never read that particular newspaper.

Quote : "A FORMER politician [Simon Parkes] has made the extraordinary claim that he stopped the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) opening a portal to another dimension that would have destroyed mankind"

Thank you Clear Blue,

I'm certain there will be many members who will reject what I'm about to expose. I'm also certain this information may offend many of the members, even members of the administration. My sole intention is 'Transparency'. Everything I'm discussing is a matter of Public Record.

Posted by observer (here)
I invite those members with any doubt to the Simon Parks Material to listen to this Stewart Swerdlow Lecture. Pay particular attention to what Stewart begins to talk about around the 20 minute mark:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tpO9Eghln4g

From the testimony of an Intelligence Community Insider, I would be very wary of any Mantis Agenda.

Stewart Swerdlow comes from an ancestral linage of Intelligence Community Operatives. Stewart explains his ancestry in the first few minutes of this second video, below. Begin paying particular attention at around the 12 minute mark, and listen through what Stewart has to say about the Extraterrestrials dwelling within the Kuiper Belt.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q-XO03Jg79U

From the mouth of an Intelligence Community Whistleblower, no alleged extra-terrestrials can be trusted. Mr. Swerdlow's background comes from the same Global Intelligence Community that has their finger-on-the-pulse of what is really happening behind all of the smoke-and-mirrors of This Particular Reality. Mr. Parks appears to be just another "Simon-Says" Extraterrestrial-Mind-Control-Program.

In general, I welcome all comments in this thread. I'd prefer those comments to be on topic, and informed regarding the thesis of this thread. Debate within that context is appreciated.

[Nick Matkin]

If anyone's frightened of CERN, you should be terrified of this:

China's planning to build the world's largest particle collider, twice the size of the LHC

Seems we're all doomed!