Cobra and Corey credibility question

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Morbid (here)
imho we have to be equally suspecious to those that give us info as well as to those that shout that its fake. go figure..

The movie "Mirage Men" (which has a cameo of Bill in it) tells a good story of one way how given information is used against us ... and has been for a very long time.

Downloadable here, till 3 November (it's really very good)

http://we.tl/h9QDX82BA8

[TargeT]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Morbid (here)
imho we have to be equally suspecious to those that give us info as well as to those that shout that its fake. go figure..

The movie "Mirage Men" (which has a cameo of Bill in it) tells a good story of one way how given information is used against us ... and has been for a very long time.

Downloadable here, till 3 November (it's really very good)

http://we.tl/h9QDX82BA8

Awesome!

downloading it now (can't wait to see the Bill cameo... haha, is the Hat involved too?)

I've got a Hat too, but I don't wear it nearly as well as Bill does (mines one of those reclaimed canvas deals, I figured if I'm a "cruzan cowboy" I gotta at least have a hat to look the part!)

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by TargeT (here)
....
Awesome!

downloading it now (can't wait to see the Bill cameo... haha, is the Hat involved too?)
...

You will enjoy it (and yes the hat has a cameo as well), unfortunately it doesn't give away too many secrets, except how the "PTB" work in using info against people who get too close to the secrets and how effective their methods are. They only use the power of the masses and automated responses in almost all their endeavours .. in a sense it shows how the use us, almost as a weapon against us (once again indicating that unless we as a mass consciousness learn to shift that consciousness, nothing will change, but I digress, maybe just choose the gold light instead? ).

It may not open up any new concepts for you, but it provides solid evidence with a well researched specific example that this is how they work ...



I recommend anyone who hasn't seen it, to download it at the link Bill provided, if nothing more than for later viewing. I searched for "convenient" viewing opportunities on the net and found nothing at all, so do take advantage of this.

Enjoy!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
....
Awesome!

downloading it now (can't wait to see the Bill cameo... haha, is the Hat involved too?)
...

You will enjoy it (and yes the hat has a cameo as well), unfortunately it doesn't give away too many secrets, except how the "PTB" work in using info against people who get too close to the secrets and how effective their methods are. They only use the power of the masses and automated responses in almost all their endeavours .. in a sense it shows how the use us, almost as a weapon against us (once again indicating that unless we as a mass consciousness learn to shift that consciousness, nothing will change, but I digress, maybe just choose the gold light instead? ).

It may not open up any new concepts for you, but it provides solid evidence with a well researched specific example that this is how they work ...



I recommend anyone who hasn't seen it, to download it at the link Bill provided, if nothing more than for later viewing. I searched for "convenient" viewing opportunities on the net and found nothing at all, so do take advantage of this.

Enjoy!

Yes, do. It's really very well done.

Both I and the hat have a few cameos, as do some other names we all know, like Linda Howe and Richard Doty — the Mirage Man par excellence at the heart of it all.

I got to know John Lundberg and Mark Pilkington quite well during the filming. They did a good job with this, though they're debunkers (and may very well be paid to be).

Astonishingly, while the film is all about UFO disinformation, how and why it works, and who does it (Rick Doty is the arch-disinformer of them all, ufology's version of Batman's Joker to haunt and taunt everyone with his tricks), Rick bent over backwards to help them make the film, and throughout comes over like some kind of genial uncle. Go figure. It really is worth watching.

[Matthew]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
Hi Vanlakos I forgot to say hi to you

All I can say for sure is the Rabat keeps on rolling that Big-Ball-Of-Confusion down the hole but never plugs it Doh!

I seem to see things in time lines, the particular one I'm on reaches a Light-Bulb-Point and all of a sudden Blows, then a new Bulb lights up ?

Is it a higher start point of view or going around the circle under new rules, confusion till it starts to illuminate!

Jump view points if the scenery starts to hurt your eyes

Vanlakos, I was so busy putting down my words I totally forgot to say Hi too. Please excuse the wrong order.

Hello!

[Selene]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Astonishingly, while the film is all about UFO disinformation, how and why it works, and who does it (Rick Doty is the arch-disinformer of them all, ufology's version of Batman's Joker to haunt and taunt everyone with his tricks), Rick bent over backwards to help them make the film, and throughout comes over like some kind of genial uncle. Go figure.

It really isn’t that hard to figure, in my view: Doty was still up to his old tricks in this film. He was still lying, maneuvering and steering an agenda here as usual. Different costume, same script. He still wants us to believe there isn’t – and never was – any such thing as a UFO, Roswell never happened and it’s only us here.

He’ll smile as he says it, of course and be Mr. Congeniality, indeed.

But he’s still lying. Just like Shane: he’ll even admit he’s lying, but continue to do so. It’s his nature.

One of the best tricks of a compulsive liar is to admit that he lies all the time – but, hey, he’s going to be honest with you, you lucky sot. And if you buy that, well, it’s open city, isn’t it? You’ve just given them full permission to screw you over completely.

Never trust a smiling snake. “Nice” does not equal honest.

Cheers,

Selene

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Selene (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Astonishingly, while the film is all about UFO disinformation, how and why it works, and who does it (Rick Doty is the arch-disinformer of them all, ufology's version of Batman's Joker to haunt and taunt everyone with his tricks), Rick bent over backwards to help them make the film, and throughout comes over like some kind of genial uncle. Go figure.

It really isn’t that hard to figure, in my view: Doty was still up to his old tricks in this film. He was still lying, maneuvering and steering an agenda here as usual. Different costume, same script. He still wants us to believe there isn’t – and never was – any such thing as a UFO, Roswell never happened and it’s only us here.

He’ll smile as he says it, of course and be Mr. Congeniality, indeed.

But he’s still lying. Just like Shane: he’ll even admit he’s lying, but continue to do so. It’s his nature.

One of the best tricks of a compulsive liar is to admit that he lies all the time – but, hey, he’s going to be honest with you, you lucky sot. And if you buy that, well, it’s open city, isn’t it? You’ve just given them full permission to screw you over completely.

Never trust a smiling snake. “Nice” does not equal honest.

Cheers,

Selene

for this post.

I met Doty a number of times, on a few of those occasions for several hours, and even to this day I don't know for sure if he was straight with me or not. All I can say is that (with some things) if he was lying, he's such a good actor he deserves an Oscar. But maybe he DOES deserve an Oscar! (Linda Howe might agree )

Even at the end of the Mirage Men movie, the film-makers clearly don't know what to make of him, or how to conclude their presentation. It's very well done, but also a fascinating study. It says a lot about the entire subject... that we're being lied to all the time (or at least often!), sometimes, as you say, by the most utterly convincing people.

[vanlakos]

Hello and thank you everyone for your posts and information that you've collected here! Appreciate it!

I want to apologize for my English as it is not my tongue language but I hope you understand me.

Its not easy for me to find local people in my country to speak about stuff that you are discussing here... Sometimes truth revealed in discussion with other people and since there are no people around who I can discuss things with, I have to filter and think of everything myself (Or find forum like this one sad that I can't speak but I can at least write my thoughts and read other people thoughts)

In our informational world I've come to conclusion that there are three type of information:
1. False: You don't agree with information completely as it is 100% lie. (For example: "Killing billions of animals around the world for meat industry is smth we can't live without because we need to eat meet to survive")
2. Neutral: You neutral to information which you take into consideration only if it has been proven true or false (For example: "That there are age regression technology according to Corey info")
3. True: Info resonates with you and you 100% sure its true! (For example: "We are not alone and ETs are out there")

So alot of info goes from neutral to true and to false over time when you connect the dots and you realize that neutral info was actually true! Sometimes I don't have dots to connect to form TrueOrFalse opinion.
I'am here to collect more "dots" to be able to connect them and identify TrueOrFalse information. So thank you again for all your answers!

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Morbid (here)
imho we have to be equally suspecious to those that give us info as well as to those that shout that its fake. go figure..

The movie "Mirage Men" (which has a cameo of Bill in it) tells a good story of one way how given information is used against us ... and has been for a very long time.

Downloadable here, till 3 November (it's really very good)

http://we.tl/h9QDX82BA8

I will download this movie for sure! Thank you for sharing!

[promezeus]

I haven't seen any fact-based posts here about cobra credibility yet. I was quite taken by him in the beginning which was many years ago, but I can tell you that his 'victory of the light is near' bs has been going on for all those years. In fact, years ago he kept saying how the timeline for the 'event' was open during this or that few months near term period. Of course , the 'event' never occurred and since then he's started giving excuses why 'event' cannot occur until such and such is taken care of.

So how come 'such and such' didn't matter years ago??

[vanlakos]

Posted by promezeus (here)
I haven't seen any fact-based posts here about cobra credibility yet. I was quite taken by him in the beginning which was many years ago, but I can tell you that his 'victory of the light is near' bs has been going on for all those years. In fact, years ago he kept saying how the timeline for the 'event' was open during this or that few months near term period. Of course , the 'event' never occurred and since then he's started giving excuses why 'event' cannot occur until such and such is taken care of. So how come 'such and such' didn't matter years ago?? lol

You are correct, all discussion was somewhere near Corey and almost no info about Cobra, but you have added your 5 cents and I agree with you about "The Event" procrastination.

Last Q&A with Cobra on 21.10.2015 he said that everything is done for preparation to the event except last step which is completely remove all nuclear weapons that are everywhere around the world (as I understand are protecting Cabal from disclosure and if such happened then they will blow everything up). He said that 90% of those A-Bombs are already deactivated (if I recall % number correctly... so correct me if I'am wrong ) and they have to deactivate remaining 10% and then the even will occur. So as you have already stated it always around the corner since 2012 when he started his blog.

So what do I think about his procrastination? I think that it might be because:
1. of the difference between our time and their cosmic time (for them its few days but for us its few years)
2. They are not operating with time but with events, as soon as certain event happened, then next event happened which would activate another event which would lead us to the event
3. It is not as easy as it may sound to us and it is aloooot more complicated giving the fact that some things might have changed that makes other things worse and therefore time consuming and therefore procrastination occurs.
4. of hoax and Cobra is just another guy who wants to be in the center and hes ego wants all of attention -> Which I doubt because:
4.1. he is not revealing himself
4.2. he gives info without any interruption in his voice like other humans usually do (I like the way he speaks, so inhuman-like without any junk-words)
4.3. he seem to not have ego... impressed me (At least I can feel ego in other people voice or the way they look like and so on but Cobra... I don't see ego there)
4.4. He answer question without going to offtopic like other humans usually do (I'am not saying he is not human, I'am just saying that he is kinda developed which is rare)

Based on all those info I've written I feel like this guy is the read deal This is why I've started this thread to hear people opinions to be able to see what I haven't been able to see with my one-sided-vision.

Its like on the picture I've attached, different people see things differently and I want to hear their opinion to be able to collect all parts and form the whole picture

[promezeus]

A year ago, strangelet bombs of the chimera group were only issue left before event.
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2014/...on-update.html

I think the following site is very good :
http://redefininggod.com/2014/08/cob...strikes-again/


now you got me remembering all the nonsense from cobra, like the brics saviour program. Remember china and russia represent two of the most repressive regimes on the planet and goldman sachs is running the new brics bank.

[Morbid]

Posted by promezeus (here)
Remember china and russia represent two of the most repressive regimes on the planet...

is that a fact, or your opinion?

[promezeus]

all supposed facts are only perceptions of reality and opinions are usually personal interpretations including those supposed facts right. so facts and opinions are both interpretations, so isn't honest sharing the best we can do?
so I gave my opinion based on facts which I can enumerate, but first lets hear your opinion which I assume will be based on something you call fact right.?
and if we are both trying to be honest, then maybe we will learn something from each other?
and if one of us is NOT honest, then maybe that will come out in the wash too.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by vanlakos (here)

In our informational world I've come to conclusion that there are three type of information:
1. False: You don't agree with information completely as it is 100% lie. (For example: "Killing billions of animals around the world for meat industry is smth we can't live without because we need to eat meet to survive")
2. Neutral: You neutral to information which you take into consideration only if it has been proven true or false (For example: "That there are age regression technology according to Corey info")
3. True: Info resonates with you and you 100% sure its true! (For example: "We are not alone and ETs are out there")

So alot of info goes from neutral to true and to false over time when you connect the dots and you realize that neutral info was actually true! Sometimes I don't have dots to connect to form TrueOrFalse opinion.
I'am here to collect more "dots" to be able to connect them and identify TrueOrFalse information. So thank you again for all your answers!
...

My method of evaluation is even simpler: Believe nothing, and consider everything. This is powerful because a belief is reductive by nature, and creates a rigidity that restricts view or perspective. Belief is a Boolean - either you believe or you do not; there is no quantitative evaluative measure to be had. However, a consideration still leaves room for error or a broader view, a value system; and allows "blocks" to be in place to help form a larger picture, and allows blocks to be, moved, removed, and added as information and new ideas are learned to help form a cohesive larger picture; it allows the concept to grow and change (or be dismissed) and allows one's learning to grow and change along with it. Beliefs are like a static conclusion and they do not fit in a dynamic, ever changing Universe.

I hope that translates as intended

[Morbid]

Posted by promezeus (here)
all supposed facts are only perceptions of reality and opinions are usually personal interpretations including those supposed facts right. so facts and opinions are both interpretations, so isn't honest sharing the best we can do?
so I gave my opinion based on facts which I can enumerate, but first lets hear your opinion which I assume will be based on something you call fact right.?
and if we are both trying to be honest, then maybe we will learn something from each other?
and if one of us is NOT honest, then maybe that will come out in the wash too.

cant speak for china through personal experience, but calling russia a "repressive regime". you would be surprised how much more freedoms they can exercise in comparison to the western "democratic states". it could be hard to believe pass everything you've ever heard about it on the news/hollywood etc where portraying evil soviet image is still being heavily bashed into the public..

i also follow that blog and like the ideas being exercised there, though sometimes find the author a bit opinionated regarding other researchers in the field.

peace and love.