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    Quote Posted by Inmortal719 (here)
    After spending about 15 minutes watching the picture, all I could recognize is that little sad grey alien, probably a few others behind him, it looks like he's on his knees..

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    Could you be a little more definitive as to where you are referring to.


    1. Are you speaking about the 2D grey scale image?
    2. Are you talking about the large "white mass" in the center of the image and the "knees" are somewhat bent below?
    3. What makes you conclude there is a grey alien in the image?


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    Btw, your attachment 31547 does not open
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    I do have a couple of questions and I'm paraphrasing here so I hope you don't mind.

    Quote: "I do have to say, I VERY much doubt that this is an artificial feature".

    For what reason(s) do you say that you very much doubt this to be artificial?

    Also, do you think that the 3km long face at Cydonia is an artificial facial structure contrived with intent by an intelligent creator(s)?
    1) (The 'dog's head') — It just looks to me very like a bunch of natural features (gullies, ridges, folds, etc) into which one is projecting the idea of an anthromorphic shape. Occam's Razor strongly suggests it's natural.

    2) (The 'face' at Cydonia) — Yes, I totally think it may well be artificial, along with some of the other large geometric structures there. Brian O'Leary, who I knew personally (as did quite a few other members here) was very emphatic that the original 'face' images were impeccably researched by good scientists, with good equipment at their disposal.

    If I was a Mars image researcher, I'd be focusing on the existing known anomalies, some of which are more than highly strange. The Hales Crater, for instance, and the Mars Tubes. There's a lot on record already that's really pretty hard to understand.

    There's a risk that in casting the net too wide and proposing a large number of other possible anomalies, one may be inadvertently just weakening the case, not strengthening it — as some will dismiss your suggestions, and then, unfortunately, dismiss everything and never look back.

    That wouldn't be a step forward, as you'd agree. It may simply be wise to focus on the really strong evidence that you and I certainly know already exists.

    Maybe for newer members here, who might be unfamiliar with much of this, you could do a detailed presentation of the really strong evidence to date, which has been out there for a number of years, of all the noted anomalies which really do raise one's eyebrows quite a long way!

    That might be a really valuable thing to do: compile a one-stop-reference for everything that's weird about Mars to date. And I don't mean things like 'Data's Head', which is probably just an odd-shaped rock.

    I mean everything at Cydonia, and in Hales Crater, and also a whole range of large-scale weird features all over the place that just look inexplicably strange... but not things like 'statues' and 'animals', which always seem to me to be the product of over-zealous interpretation. (I do have to say, though, the 'Mars Crab' caught my attention. That looks really hard to explain, to me.)

    I'm sure there are artifacts here and there (David Wilcock's source 'Daniel' said there were artifacts 'all over the place') — but the odds on them being within focus range of a sole lander in one random spot are very small. It's like parachuting a camera into the Nevada Desert and seeing statues and things all around. You'd not see anything if you did that, other than rocks... and Earth is covered in life and human creations.

    Thanks Bill for your response although I can see you are not too impressed with these low res ESA images and understandably so. I too was incredibly skeptical when I first began to see these patterns in Hebes Chasma, but that changed after further analysis in the months to come. As I tried to mention earlier of its importance, (and I can't stress enough) is trying to come to terms with the "mind shift" away from what we believe we should "expect" to see on Mars, to one of; (a phrase which I coined)


    "Expect NOT to see the expected but to expect to see the unexpected"

    Yep, sounds kind of bizarre but this mental paradigm shift IS required.


    Let me give you an example:


    When the images of the "Face on Cydonia" first appeared to NASA back in the 70's, the initial response from the main stream was; (and please excuse me for paraphrasing your comments above here Bill as they are not necessarily your sentiments) something along the lines of:


    (Quote) "It just looks to me very like a bunch of natural features (gullies, ridges, folds, etc) into which one is projecting the idea of an anthromorphic shape. Occam's Razor strongly suggests it's natural".


    This was quite unanimous across the board in all Scientific arena's "absurd...how could a mesa on Mars look like a human face!"


    And yet, if I ask you now if you think the Cydonia Face is the product of intelligence your answer is, and I quote:


    (Quote) "Yes, I totally think it may well be artificial, along with some of the other large geometric structures there".

    Sorry Bill for seemingly attempting to put you on the spot here, but I needed to make this point. It is quite obvious to many who have looked at this image of a dog and it's prey captured in its mouth as just that. Once one gets over the absurdity, it's not so absurd especially when you group it together with several other huge images of animal and anthropomorphic patterns in very close proximity. Just because it makes no sense to our limited understanding of what, why and how a potential Alien intelligence would do this, does NOT mean one should eliminate any "in depth" investigation by "as many human eyes as possible" in trying to understand its reality - or not. Basic science 101.


    I will post a few more images from this enigmatic image from ESA of Hebes Chasma below and then move on as the resolution is marginal at best at only 40 meters per pixel. The MRO images are on a different scales at 25cm per pixel!


    But before I do, you mentioned a couple of links above of some interest. A quick evaluation.


    The images received from the on board Mars Express HRSC (high resolution stereo camera) as mentioned are roughly 40 meters per pixel and while this resolution can come in handy researching large scale images of large regions (Like Hale Crater) they are inconsequential for high magnification research.


    About 4 years ago, I too was also intrigued about these so-called geometric shapes that seemed to be popping up in the ESA images once the contrast and gamma curves had been "modified" and in particular, Hale Crater received quite some discussion on the "Interweb" stating that these geometric shapes had been found there also. It received considerable coverage from JP Skipper who, btw I have great respect for his tireless research but in this case and, any other images that purportedly claim these geometric shapes on the surface can be explained as "Human origin".


    http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/


    After contacting ESA and doing a some research back then, the cause of the shapes are in fact the responsibility of the "mapping software" in the process of evaluation of the dimensional undulations in the Martian surface. The "remnants" of these geometric "squares and shapes" are buried in the image files and reduced down for public consumption as the "shapes" are unused for no other reason than to map the surface terrain.


    Here are some good examples of the same process found in Hale crater and in ALL other Mars Express HRSC images sent back. By adjusting the gamma and contrast values, the mapping signature can be exposed:

    Here is a link for further information on this process and the HRSC on board.

    Please download:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiXzItbEQ0Y1FfVmM/view?usp=sharing

    Uranius-CerauniusTholi



    Kasei Valles Region



    However, the so-called "Tubes" found in many images are a tad more interesting only in as much as there does appear to be some translucency in their construct but I have to say, this is speculative at best due to the low resolution of the images. We need to request the folks over at HiRISE to see if we can pin point the MRO on these regions and try and secure a swath of stereo images in 1 X 1 binning to "resolve" the anomaly.


    Image above is an artist rendering
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    As I mentioned above, I wanted to post a few more images of the incredible surface creations in Hebes Chasma. These "renditions" are IMO some of the most fantastic enigmas I have ever laid my eyes upon. Like I said, if there had been just the one or even two renditions in the Chasma, I would have passed them of as a trick of the eye. But this is NOT the case. The entire Chasma has many and of a particular signature; a stylized "impressionistic duplication" of human historical characters, some showing undoubtedly "cartoonized" overtones.

    Again, the difficulty in accepting these as anything more than natural conditions, is the fact that we as a specie, have absolutely no idea how they could be created, in fact, the opposite is naturally assumed. How can a huge area, in several instances, well over 30km in length, be transposed into a supposedly rocky planetary terrain? And, if this could be achieved somehow, why these apparent "loose" renditions of familiar human personalities from human history? The next logical question, if they are what they seem is; were they created for "us" or "them" or "who" to be viewed from extreme altitude?

    One of my favorites in the Chasma and somewhat difficult to visually capture at first, is the character I've named as "The Pirate".

    This rendition is absolutely awesome as the terrain has been apparently modified to show this huge man in full stride from left to right showing his right side with his right arm is out stretched out to his side and slightly down.

    What is really impressive, is the Pirates flowing coat and in particular, his right arm and shoulder where the "crumpled folds" of his jacked have been carefully crafted dimenstionally. His face appears ugly without showing facial details somehow but his hair is flowing back in disarray as would be typical of a ferocious pirate. Underneath his right armpit, one can just make out the impression of a musket.

    His stride is "tell tail" where his clog like shoes are found in the right location congruent and proportionate to his stride. I'm my eye, I see clutched in his right hand, a composite of something vibrant or symbolic possibly "loot" of some kind which is being "thrown" into the half circular "casket" below his hand.

    Now this is all cleaverly connected into that half circular "casket" below. When the entire image is rotated to the right, we see the half circle is the impression of the formidable head of the "devil's goat head" attached to the leaping animal from human lore!

    Now - all of this activity is being observed from the right by the huge head clearly visible of the Devil himself! (image below). His head seen in left profile has remarkable details including his smiling teeth and goatee beard, and radiant hair!

    The Pirate:







    The image to the left above, is without coloring effect.


    The Devils Head looks on from his left facial profile:





    Close to the where the three monkeys are immediately located is this wonderful rendition of a "Wally Gator" like character complete with his protruding belly and mariners jacket and formal clothing regalia. The cartoon "eye with pronounced pupil" can be seen typical of Hanna Barbara and alike signature. Under his foot is once again, the decapitated head of his enemy as he stands proud!







    To the right of Wally Gater is this wonderul rendition of a magnificent bird like creature with a fish in its mouth. His wings are expansive and symbolic.






    To the left of Wally Gator, highlighed in blue, we see this very subtle image of an obvious African head looking down.





    There are many more in this ESA image but will move on now and start taking a look at the more defined images in super hi resolution of the near field found in the MRO images.


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    Could you be a little more definitive as to where you are referring to.


    1. Are you speaking about the 2D grey scale image?
    2. Are you talking about the large "white mass" in the center of the image and the "knees" are somewhat bent below?
    3. What makes you conclude there is a grey alien in the image?


    Many thanks,
    Regards,
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    Btw, your attachment 31547 does not open
    Maybe this one does open, re-uploeaded
    if you try to zoom it, it does look like a grey alien, and behind him you can see like a few heads over each other, so it looks like there's many of them..
    I just rotated the picture 90 degrees to the right..
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    Again some 4.5km down from the rim in the depths of Hebes Chasma, we see another rendition. This time, the famous face of Alfalfa from the Little Rascals but look carefully, just barely visible in the back side of Alfalfa's head is another face looking down and to the right. This is very typical of the subtlety of the creators.


    In respect to scale, the appendages protruding from Alfalfa's neck, if you were standing there, in this image you would not be visible.






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    One of my favorite renditions was found along the inner wall of Victoria Crater. This is something quite special as the rendition shows quite clearly the profile head of a humanoid female with some unique features.

    What struck me initially, was the attention to her hair which is bright red and clasped with a headband of sorts. Noticeable, is the lack of a nose protrusion and believe this was done intentionally...being conducive to many images seen of humanoid alien beings where the "maxilla" or nasal bone is barely developed. See below.

    Also, pay attention to the cute image directly to the left of the females head. There is a cleverly formed canine face "looking left" barely visible with its left paw raised. But then do a "double take" as you catch the face of strange additional facial feature looking right. Again, their "signature".





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    Quote Posted by Inmortal719 (here)
    Quote Posted by M-Albion-3D (here)

    Could you be a little more definitive as to where you are referring to.


    1. Are you speaking about the 2D grey scale image?
    2. Are you talking about the large "white mass" in the center of the image and the "knees" are somewhat bent below?
    3. What makes you conclude there is a grey alien in the image?


    Many thanks,
    Regards,
    M-AL

    Btw, your attachment 31547 does not open
    Maybe this one does open, re-uploeaded
    if you try to zoom it, it does look like a grey alien, and behind him you can see like a few heads over each other, so it looks like there's many of them..
    I just rotated the picture 90 degrees to the right..

    Thanks for this Inmortal.


    Truthfully, I have looked at this "Martian totem pole" for a couple of years now and have asked others if they recognize any of the "shapes" embedded but thus far, no luck. Obvious it is artificial due to the proximity of the "faces" to its left and must mean something to the "residents at one time". One day maybe we'll find out.


    I tried seeing your grey face but actually saw more definition in its vertical position but that does not mean that you do not see the grey. The human mind is capable of seeing much more than we give it credit for as I have come to find out, that we can train our eye/mind to also see in multi dimensions but that takes practice.


    Here's a closer look at the artifacts.


    Regards,
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    It's no coincidence that many of the supposedly natural surface forms which pepper the Martian surface bare remarkable resemblance to amazing works of art. With some careful analysis of the regions especially "below the mean Martian surface" we find them and many are just stunning!

    Here we see this beautiful rendition of three humorous characters who I have named "Manny Moe and Jack"! From the very top of the big chap to the foot of the little guy below, the distance is 355 meters so quite a large rendition and quite visible from some altitude above.


    Amazingly, the "residents" responsible seem keenly aware of the effect of light and dark or "bright and shadow" and how this plays in the creation of design and is used consistently in many renditions.


    One of the striking realities found in so many renditions is the translation of humor! And or course, humor is an emotion and therefor, we see the transfer of essential communication.


    Beautiful......



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    I find it difficult to desipher what is actually there and what is a trick of the eye. As in our pyramid stones, when you begin to see the faces, they are everywhere. On the moon also. It can become addictive, great fun though

    I had a look at some of your photo's and zooming in found some interesting structures. Sorry for the quality, I am no photographer. I just zoomed in and took a snap.

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    [QUOTE=Billy;1012926]I find it difficult to desipher what is actually there and what is a trick of the eye. As in our pyramid stones, when you begin to see the faces, they are everywhere. On the moon also. It can become addictive, great fun though

    I had a look at some of your photo's and zooming in found some interesting structures. Sorry for the quality, I am no photographer. I just zoomed in and took a snap.



    Thanks Billy for taking a closer look at the structures there. Let me add, when one takes on the laborious task of extreme "close up" analysis of many of the MRO HiRise images (especially of this huge 5 mile hole in the surface) the results are just astonishing. In a way, I have learnt to adopt an approach of "it's not where one looks but more importantly; HOW one looks) or in other words "refocusing the minds eye".

    Here's a couple of beautiful images of some apparent structures found in Hebes Chasma (and there are many more). Initially, they appear to be "resident structures" but I have come to conclude that that is not the case. I'll enlarge at a later date.








    With respect to those faces.

    Let me say this, the famous face at Cydonia is a mere "snowflake on the tip of the iceberg"! There are not 100's of faces on Mars...there are MILLIONS!

    By comparison, we on earth have been at it now for just a few thousand years of building heads and faces in one form or another BUT only in either 2 or 3D and ALL created by means of acquied resource.





    Now, imagine being way more advanced and having the capability to create images in 2D, 3D AND holographic multi dimensions "alla Star Trek Hollow Deck" by using "matter in-situ".

    When one looks real close and I'm talking right up front and personal and especially in anaglyph, you WILL see many astonishing faces, busts and pictures of some of the most strangest and fascinating creatures one could ever dream up.


    The image below is of "little Jack" the small guy below but now in 3D anaglyph. Very cool and deliberate design.


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    Frequently, I land upon some intriguing images of what appear to be manipulation of the strata many of which, as I've mentioned are renditions of human characters or constructs of human folklore.


    Found in the region of Candor Chasma poised along a steep sided gully are these many renditions of peculiar characters possibly emulating the nonsense poem of the "owl and the Pussycat" by Edward Lear, first published in 1871.


    If you look closely, you can see the Owl with open wings.






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    It looks like two rocks to me the bigger in the foreground and the smaller head
    behind just at the right angle to give the illusion. Or its a Martian ' Yogi ' " Smarter
    than your average Bear " ??




    SHOCK PICTURE: Call for UN probe after 'Bear pictured walking on Mars'

    AN alien investigator has called for a United Nations probe into "discoveries of life on Mars"
    amid claims Nasa is ignoring "evidence" of animals on the Red Planet, including the latest
    so-called discovery - a bear.

    By Jon Austin
    PUBLISHED: 08:18, Sat, Oct 31, 2015 | UPDATED: 12:34, Sat, Oct 31, 2015



    Is this a bear or just an optical illusion?


    An image taken from Nasa's online database of Mars photographs has been posted online by
    UFO hunters amid claims it "clearly" shows a bear or other four-legged mammal walking on
    the surface of the Red Planet.One of them, Scott C Waring, who edits website UFO Sightings
    Daily, is convinced it is a bear and the real deal.He posts, on an almost daily basis an array
    of the Nasa images - which are taken by its 4WD Curiosity Rover currently exploring the
    Martian surface and beamed back to Earth - and points out what he says are "aliens, crabs,
    statues, buildings, other objects, and even crashed UFOs" hidden among the rocks.

    Of the latest find, he said: "This creature has real hair as seen from the shadows around its
    body. That means its not a statue, but a living creature.

    "This bear-like animal was discovered by Paranormal Crucible of Youtube.


    Zoomed in: Mammal on Mars or odd rock formation?




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    It looks like two rocks to me the bigger in the foreground and the smaller head
    behind just at the right angle to give the illusion. Or its a Martian ' Yogi ' " Smarter
    than your average Bear " ??
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    Yes I do agree, I think you are precisely right and this is very common in images generated by the surface rovers - Opportunity, Spirit and Curiosity.

    I am of the mind that as the images generated by the above equipment have a defined local range of "close vicinity", I am quite sure NASA canvases each and every image for evidence BEFORE being released for public consumption. Unfortunately these little "news paper" interludes serve as a "disinformation" ridicule check in many ways - I'm sadden to say.

    Still, these kind of "hallelujah images" also punctuate an almost incessant human propensity of the mind to search for proportionate familiarities on the Martian surface, a sort of "thinking inside the box syndrome".

    As I have promoted in this thread, the key to opening one's mind's eye to the alien presence on Mars, is to coach oneself that, eventually you will be observing patterns and designs (renditions) which, for all intents and purposes, the eye/mind has NEVER seen in all of human history. It is important to remind oneself that the creators of these many surface renditions are generated from a mind which is definitively more evolved than ours. Therefor, the creations have form and function meant to be observed by recipients with more than "basic vision". This is why it is important to view the surface in 3D anaglyph mode. Think about it...why did we go to the degree of including some immensely expensive stereo camera equipment on board the MRO for no other reason than for the human eye to SEE the surface with depth of field?? The stereo images are used for no other purpose than aiding the human eye.

    http://www.amazon.com/Glasses-Prescr...07BP8JPST0CZAP

    A little tip to aid in this process is; when examining images in slow and close up, ask yourself the reverse; "is what I am looking at congruent or consistent with pixel grouping normally associated with that of a natural basalt or rocky surface?"

    In this process, one must be very patient, observant and critical. Eventually, one will begin to see patterns which are "inconsistent" with natural formations in many areas. This is the telltale sign and mostly found in the many 2D and 3D high resolution MRO images.

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    On occasions though, I've bumped into a few discoveries from the above surface vehicles where NASA has missed evidence and has blatantly "Photo shopped" the evidence as in the image below.

    Due to the immense data sent back in the many panoramic images, it's quite impossible to "catch everything" and in particular PIA09103 of Victoria Crater by the lander Opportunity taken on Sol 970 in 2006 from "Cape Verde" below is a good example.

    The top image is found in Wikipedia before NASA decided to modify the sky color back to its correct shade of blue. (Keeping the images in these dark red hued productions covers up a multitude of sins as the saying goes! Note the corrected sky color but not the crater color on the NASA page)


    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA09103





    In the rocky cliff to the left of the image above, there is perched on a plateau rock a beautiful skull of an alien creature that resembles a long snouted almost crocodilian form. Just to the right of the skull, one can see two areas which have been purposely "photo shopped" and NOT very well done as the deletion is woefully evident!


    The images below will take you to the locations in question and the red pointers indicate where the photo shopping has been "smudged". The skull is self evident.








    Interesting...NASA left the skull but photo shopped the two smudges to the right. One wonders what was evident there!!!


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    VICTORIA CRATER


    Is a miraculous place to be sure and was a destination of supreme importance to the Opportunity lander when it arrived on the planet.


    The first thing that struck me about this so-called "crater" was its shape...do you notice anything unusual about it?




    Apart from the strange cog-like shape, the thing that immediately struck me was the lack of any noticeable impact ejector relative to the depth of the crater of 70 meters (230ft).

    As a rule of thumb, craters bare a typical signature of; a) the deeper the crater, the newer the crater, the larger the impact ejector (debris) around the perimeter. And, b) the shallower the crater, the older the crater, the less noticeable the ejector debris.

    Victoria Crater did NOT comply with the above.


    As I began to explore the several NASA websites (and others) I noticed that there was precious little explanation as to the history and/or geological nature of this huge crater. Sure, there was paragraphs and pages galore on the Opportunity and where the vehicle was located and when it took the images, in fact, the stuff on Opportunity began to get laborious. But where was the evaluations of the surface features and unique inclusions so evident in the overhead and surface images?


    How could something so unique like Victoria Crater be so geologically underexposed on the internet. Here is a link to Wikipedia where surely one must find an in-depth analysis of this awesome planetary find, so I thought... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_(crater) result...NADA!


    Then a thought occurred to me. THE IS NOT A CRATER! Or should I say, it may have been at one time but that is NOT what is ended up to be!


    Every geological aspect I looked at pointed in one direction, Victoria Crater was a MINE! But unlike any quarry found on Earth.


    So what was the evidence to support such a contention? Fortunately, the image PIA09103 had much to tell, for on the very far side of the rim, (some 1/2 a mile away) located just below that perfect albeit peculiar "sidekick" crater perched on the rim above, was some highly unusual rocky appendage/bay formations. I zoomed in.


    Quite apparent, on top of several of the rim protrusions, there were defined structures and below them were discernible openings or "orifices" located "below the line of liquid" no longer there.




    The "liquid line" was right where it should be defining the point below and above the line on every single bay protrusion. In addition, the slope between with that enormous residue of sorts running perfectly down into the bowl showed the telltale signs of green hue below and none above.






    Here is a video showing the definitive surface line of the liquid relative to the structures "above" the liquid line and the formations and "openings or orifices" below the surface.


    The surface line is completely horizontal....
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--...ew?usp=sharing


    More to come but back to work now.....














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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    I find it difficult to desipher what is actually there and what is a trick of the eye. As in our pyramid stones, when you begin to see the faces, they are everywhere. On the moon also. It can become addictive, great fun though

    I had a look at some of your photo's and zooming in found some interesting structures. Sorry for the quality, I am no photographer. I just zoomed in and took a snap.

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    Hi agian M-Albion.

    With this picture that you posted here as a reference.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1009655

    Can you tell me, What would be the scale size of the circled in red section that i zoomed in on.?
    I look for unnatural straight lines, squares, rectangles ect. and i see them in the close up i have posted, I am a builder to trade, I see windows, a porch, a pillar supporting the roof and steps, I wonder what does anyone else see in the close up. not to mention the face of the Grey (red arrow) with a road of parallel stones leading to an opening into the side of the face. Could just be my imagination.

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    Has it been decided what this photo is ? I posted it on one of my first threads and I
    remember it being on the mainstream news years ago. It was from a real NASA
    landscape panorama , and if its a rock it does not fit in with others in the
    immediate area. To me it does look humanoid , I know there has been a lot
    of speculation back a long.

    Has anything been said about it recently ?

    NASA image PIA10214







    PIA10214: Spirit's West Valley Panorama (False Color)


    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA10214

    Thread found while looking for one above
    Giant UFO found on Mars
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ars#post948108


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    This reminded me of the Sand Sarlac on Tatooine....Though the crater looks cool....



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    I do remember Alfred L. Webre and Andy Basiago were very hot to trot on this anthropomorphic figure a year or two ago and back then, I sent Webre some of my color corrected images of the data point. Here's a copy in jpeg.


    My conclusion is that the figure is meant to depict a female humanoid due to the torso shape which is somehow still standing possibly from a larger structure once located there although the figure is quite tall around 5 meters est.


    Certainly one of the better humanoid three dimensional structures to date.



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    I find it difficult to desipher what is actually there and what is a trick of the eye. As in our pyramid stones, when you begin to see the faces, they are everywhere. On the moon also. It can become addictive, great fun though

    I had a look at some of your photo's and zooming in found some interesting structures. Sorry for the quality, I am no photographer. I just zoomed in and took a snap.

    .
    Hi agian M-Albion.

    With this picture that you posted here as a reference.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1009655

    Can you tell me, What would be the scale size of the circled in red section that i zoomed in on.?
    I look for unnatural straight lines, squares, rectangles ect. and i see them in the close up i have posted, I am a builder to trade, I see windows, a porch, a pillar supporting the roof and steps, I wonder what does anyone else see in the close up. not to mention the face of the Grey (red arrow) with a road of parallel stones leading to an opening into the side of the face. Could just be my imagination.




    Hi Billy,


    I'm glad you picked up on a few of the subtleties in the is awesome work of art, I have this entire image printed on canvass 48" X 30" in my living room and it never fails to produce amazing discussion.


    Most all see the image of a quasi "musician" in white with his back shown leaping and tucking his legs underneath somewhat. His curly hair and head is turned warring a pair of dark sunglasses - along the lines of ELO's Jeff Lynne.





    The data point you are referring to is 100 meters as per the image below. I've produced a 3D anaglyph as well which gives a far better interpretation.








    Btw, I'm an architect by profession so I catch your perspective.


    Peace.....
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    Quote I do remember Alfred L. Webre and Andy Basiago were very hot to trot on
    this anthropomorphic figure a year or two ago and back then, I sent Webre some of
    my color corrected images of the data point. Here's a copy in jpeg.

    My conclusion is that the figure is meant to depict a female humanoid due to the
    torso shape which is somehow still standing possibly from a larger structure once
    located there although the figure is quite tall around 5 meters est.

    Certainly one of the better humanoid three dimensional structures to date.
    Thanks for comments the enhancements pictures you put up are intrigueing for sure..

    The little mermaid statue in Copenhagen comes to mind , the photo is not
    clear on this fun comparison but you get the idea...LOL




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    I did see an article about this the other day , and I just saw it on Davids
    'Headline page ' so worth a post I think ?? If its genuine it does not
    look like a rock to me.....
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    ‘UFO Drone’ Found on Mars is Proof of Ancient Civilization on Red Planet – Claim

    By David Icke on 8th November 2015



    Published on 1 Nov 2015


    The anomaly which appears to be the result of intelligent design was photographed
    by the rover as it surveyed the area around rock nest at Gale Crater.

    In my opinion this object is an extraterrestrial drone possibly built by the indigenous
    Martian populace or perhaps it was deployed by an off world alien species who were
    exploring the martian surface.

    This object was found a few years back, but i will be re-visiting some old discoveries
    and shedding new light on what they could actually be.

    Drone footage is from the movie Oblivion.

    Raw Image: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-imag...
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    Thanks for this update and an interesting find for sure. The frustrating problem I have with NASA and I've said this many times, is that we are still only getting these bloody fuzzy, highly compressed, artifact ridden jpeg's from the lander's when we should have absolute crystal clear images with absolute detail! They must think we're stooopid and that really chap's my rear end.


    Conversely, the MRO images taken at 170 miles above the surface, one can zoom in and see the shape of a rock with pretty good definition yet....a "lander" with high definition cameras on board, takes a snapshot of a target data point some 300 meters away and we would be hard pressed to make out if the structure is an "arm" or not as seen in the above.


    Come on NASA fess-up and stop playing these stupid games, we are all big boys and girls here!
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    Rock protrusion with entrance



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