The Jacques Nietzermann hoax

[betoobig]

The Powers that Used to Be, are desperate. If we don´t see an alien invasion does not mean they have tryed, if we haven´t seen 3 days of darkness it doesn´t mean they haven´t try, if haven´t seen WWIII doesn´t mean they haven´t tryed, if haven´t seen the destruction of earth by CERN it doesn´t mean they are trying.....
I think we are witnessing a force higher than us working on our side, for example taking care of all nuclear bombs and nuclear plants (but Fukushima)....
We may see something significant on the 28th, time is about to tell, but i don´t think that will be what TPUB want us to see.
I pray for the end of this take down on humanity which has lasted way too long.
Love...evol

[Ewan]

Posted by Rachel (here)

I received the answer in a dream. It was a short and intense dream but contained a lot of information, but to summarise the answer, their technology is far more realistic than anything I've seen/imagined. They most certainly have the means and there was an emphasis on how effective it is, on our physical mind/being. I watched a hologram in the sky, one that would appear as a religious prophecy coming true. I was most struck by the terror it evoked from my mind (so big and alien to me), as I watched it, even though I knew it was a hologram. I was made aware that they are fully aware of how it affects the physical mind.

That got me thinking for a while. When we sit watching a modern movie with all the special effects it can look very realistic if you are drawn into the story and not sitting there in critic mode.

When we move about in our day to day existence we are not too dissimilar to an ant on a sheet of paper. Yes, we have an awareness of 3D thanks to our binocular vision and the play of light and shadows, but that 3D extends miles upwards into the skies producing a hemispherical dome above us.

You mentioned the technology available and I pictured the sky playing out a movie with all the detail you could imagine, the sound, the light. It would certainly be effective. Even if you could tell yourself this is not real it would prove problematic to the psyche, and the vast majority, I fear, would not even hesitate to doubt.

Were such an event to take place the proof of the illusion may well lie in how quickly the world's 'governments' reach consensus on a plan of action. Look how quickly America pushed through sweeping changes following 9/11. A quick consensus and rapid acceptance of 'necessary measures' would surely be manufactured and planned, for in reality such an event would create chaos and division as people hotly debated upon solutions or actions.

[M0JFK]

I am sure Windows 10 is the attack on civilisation...worst thing I have ever put on my laptop. I for one would be grateful for a real alien invasion if it only gives us a decent operating system for our PC's.

[Bill Ryan]

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Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction.

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

[Megrubbieswet]

I feel though what will happen will not be negative, the malevolence will be effectively crushed. ITS NOT THE END, ITS THE BEGINNING. I feel though these times are shining right through me, I'm so HONORED AND GLAD TO BE BORN IN THIS ERA. ITS ONE OF THE CRAZIEST ERAS TO BE IN! + I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO WORK ON, IVE BEEN SO SLACK.. But have come so far still... Theres more and more and more, we have to keep going! We will rebuild! To all the fraudulent ill willed tyrannic scum bags which have been getting away with ill willed treatment of the innocence. Your time is now over, to a new beginning!

[Kryztian]

I was duped by the "Mermaids" mockumentary, and now this. Yes, I think it is, indeed a hoax. Here's my path of confusion and enlightenment.

I saw a "Nietzermann" video and started googling him, trying to see if anyone investigated him. I found an October 2012 Youtube video by user "Luke Andmack" called "The Nietzermann Case - Episode 1" where two guys, Luke and Matt investigate Nietzermann, looking into video quality if it is authentic 1980s technology, details of objects in the video, e-mails they receive , etc. This goes up to Episode 8, although episodes 6 & 7 are missing from Youtube. They start to receive e-mails from someone involved in the case and finally one claiming to be Nietzerman himself. There are also a few recent videos (2015) on the "Luke Andmack" channel, where they discuss the "newly found" September 28th prediction. At one point they claim they have to give up the investigation because they are receiving too much interference and harassment.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bYiOpDVFhK4

Luke and Matt were analyzing the Nietzermann videos, I decided to analyze the Luke and Matt videos and here is what I found:

• The video editing (close ups on their facial expressions, video editing ) and the lighting is just too good for a home made investigatory movie. Perhaps they used makeup too because I did not see an uncomplementary shots of their skin.
• Luke and Matt are not just ordinary people, they look like actors trying to play ordinary people. Nice teeth, good facial bone structure, nice skin.
• Their gestures, their timing, their delivery are all too perfect - good acting guys!
• It is scripted - the way the story unfolds and the intensity and mystery grows.
• When we plans to investigate a mystery, you don't know if you will find the answer in 5 minutes or 5 decades, but they were clearly certain on Episode 1 that this would unfold on a weekly basis, so tune in.

Conclusion: Nietzerman is not only a hoax, but Luke and Matt are part of the same hoax. I don't know if there is actually going to be a Nietzermann mocumentary, but their series of Youtube videos of both Nietzermann "in the 1980s" and of their investigation of him are indeed a clever and entertaining work of fiction.

Thanks for a good laugh guys!

[provolon]

I rented the video.. mostly they are all actors.. to sell the movie? I don't know.. but it was a good movie I was/am not sure that all is fake

[OMG]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction.

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

I'm still in mountains and can't get video. Can someone explain why the original video I posted is a fake and how it's related to the "movie" people are talking about. I'm kinda lost here...

Thanks

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by OMG (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction.

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

I'm still in mountains and can't get video. Can someone explain why the original video I posted is a fake and how it's related to the "movie" people are talking about. I'm kinda lost here...

Thanks

A lot of the evidence is pointing to a probability that the video you posted, as well as various other tidbits on the web on Nietzerman was released to create hype for the movie.

1) The movie is dated 2013 on IMDB - it appears this was to be the original release date of this movie, but for whatever reason the release was delayed.

2) Octavus suggested that the video you posted may have been released one year earlier, 2012, to create hype for the movie ... I looked into this claim.

3) I did thorough research into info on Nietzerman and the timelines of info release, and found that nothing on him existed prior to 2012, which fits the theory Octavus initially presented.

4) I did find a forum thread with posts dated 2009, and discussions on Neitzerman's predictions about 2012 (real / hoax? etc.) yet at the same time, when I clicked all the video links posted in the posts on that thread, every single one of them was uploaded to youtube in 2012. How can a thread dated 2009 have a it's video links only uploaded in 2012? This indicates that the 2009 date for those posts was wrong, and adds suspicion. It seems to appear as though someone wanted us to believe that info on Nietzerman was available before 2012 -- if the story is true, surely there would be prior 2012 results ... I search hard, found none, and found what appeared to be deception regarding the longevity of the story. (links in my previous post)

5) I found a Spanish thread on Nietzerman, claiming the whole thing was marketing. Someone examined the email address used for uploading Nietzerman content, and linked it to a Quebec marketing firm called "Happening Marketing". I was able to verify the existence of such a firm in Quebec; I posted a link to this thread as well.

6) the movie is finally released in September 2015 ... interestingly another wave of "nietzerman" prophecy hits all the alternative sites just a month or so before the actual postponed movie launch date ... again leading to suspicion that this is marketing for the movie.

7) Kryztians post on this thread (previous page - which I missed, but makes the shoe fit even better)

As far as it looks, it's all marketing for the movie.

(Edited after I saw Kryztian's post)

[mojo]

An alien attack through our computers?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WDfpmEdZcw8

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mojo (here)
An alien attack through our computers?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WDfpmEdZcw8

Merged with an existing thread... I'm afraid (or maybe we should be thankful!) that this video isn't real.

[mojo]

Thank you Bill for catching that...

[Kryztian]

As many of you may remember from September, there was a thread about psychic Jacque Nietzerman, whose "1980s" videos started appearing on Youtube in 2012 and then a few more appeared this year. And then, those of us who started googling "Nietzerman" discovered the "investigations" of Mac and Luc. Here is the back story of Will G. Kraft who made the original "Nietzerman" movie in 2012, which went viral beyond expectation. He then developed Nietzermann into a movie recently and, "by coincidence", another old Nietzerman video emerges, predicting the alien takeover of our computers on September 24, 2015. (begins at minute 32)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHUm_eeIkeQ

Kraft's comes forward to show us the anatomy of creating a hoax and why it worked. This should give us some insight into how those who pass through the halls of the CIA, MI6, and other intelligence agencies, create the big hoaxes - the ones that last for decades and that keep humanity in a fog.

A couple of principle I gleaned from this:

- create both sides of the argument - here, the case for belief and disbelief. Kraft created both the Nietzerman videos and the "Luke and Mac" videos debunking it. Onces the debunkers give in and believe, there is no resistance.

- a flood of information will drown up the truth. In 2012, someone notice the reflection in a window of a lighting fixture that was clearly 21st century and posted the info on the internet. Kraft thought that his hoax had been unveiled and he would have to call it quits. Fortunately for him, there were so many competing ideas, bad ones, that were getting discussed much more frequently, no one notice the piece of true insight which was drowned out by stupidity.

Apparently, there are those who are quite angry at Kraft, but I feel grateful to him for giving us a learning experience, and perhaps a good laugh too.

[ThePythonicCow]

It just so happens that our newest member on Avalon is Will G Kraft.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
As many of you may remember from September, there was a thread about psychic Jacque Nietzerman,

One other Avalon thread, besides the one linked above, on these Nietzerman videos: Jacques Nietzermann

[WillGKraft]

Hello world!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[WillGKraft]

Hi everyone!
My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it. Some really good insights there!

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[WillGKraft]

Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[Flash]

Why and how did you decide to come in the open Will - I was going to write "out of the closet" lol?

What make you decide to publish such a hoax, and hold it over time?

Was an idea of views and the money involved (to do it and to collect) a factor? How much in, how much out?

What about all those naive people who did not sleep at night, mostly on Sept 28, how do you feel about this?

Do you think there is karma involved in promoting fear?

What do you think about the analysis avalon member did here?

And while we are on it, why did you subcribe a membership here?

Finally, thank you for "coming out" and showing us how easy it is to fool the masses.

Posted by WillGKraft (here)
Hi everyone!
My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it. Some really good insights there!

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[Flash]

mods, shouldn't we put both thread together, Nietzermann and Mockumentary?

Posted by WillGKraft (here)
Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will