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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    FRANCE JUST MANAGED A SOLUTION TO THE ENGINEERED REFUGE INVASION; BORDERS CLOSED.

    Paris Terror Wave on Friday the 13th: Cui Bono?

    think in terms of AND.

    there is no "just this", or "just that" in reality. reality is an infinite interconnected fabric of this and that, and infinitely more.

    borders closed. suspects dead. scapegoat for more wars based on false flag. ultimate control over the ppl of france; martial law? and more.
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    False flag or not, this is huge and with all these fighters blending in with refugees crossing borders everywhere, this is probably the first of a series of large chaotic bursts of violent attacks.
    Jeebus, that escalated quickly..

    That's just pretty damn obvious, I bet it gets zero air time on the 'tube.
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    A bit of "air time" on the You TUBE.............




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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Just like 9/11 the headlines are so convenient and the
    result will probably be the same putting boots on the
    ground in Syria/ Iraq. This time with France on board
    as they were in the first Gulf war when Saddam invaded
    Kuwait . But not the second after the lies about WMD's.

    Knowing this will be the outcome , Why would any
    real fighting organisation do something so obviously
    stupid to cause more countries to unite and invade
    them ? None ! its the same old 'problem reaction
    solution' scenario imo ...


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    Key Points


    At least 128 people dead in gun and bomb attacks in Paris and around 180 injured


    Islamic State claims responsibility for attacks in official statement


    Scores of people killed at rock concert after gunmen open fire on crowd


    Others killed in explosions near the Stade de France and gun attacks at city centre restaurants


    State of emergency declared as France closes its borders


    All times in GMT


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34815972

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    I am horrified by the genocide of innocent unarmed and defenceless civilian life again to falsely justify legalising participation in their own secret war, which they now want to bloom shock public acceptance therefore being the catalyst to Starting the WORLD WAR III.

    The French Aircraft Carrier I suspect is needed to counteract the Russian electronics. Both nations experts in analgous fields of science. Goodness knows how thats going to fare, nothing I consider results in anything good.

    France is also net exporter of its energy and of concern would be the UK now hell bent on leaving the EU. France is also through ESA heavily involved in collaboration in Space.

    The US has already said it was sending "boots on the ground" to Syria as reported at Veterans Today a couple of days ago.

    The interesting thing about the "taking out" of Jihadi john was someone displayed the target location with all the buildings in the square annotated to the locations of the ISIS growing government structure, yet none of those have been bombed yet. Why?

    There are two major attacks taking place. The television one, that's Syria annd Russia and the Allies of Assad, China et al. And the second front is in Europe itself. Here, the only outcome to the expected horrors is to impose for safety, will be to accept being microchipped to the Khazarian Rothschilds Economic Empire.

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    First question we should ask: cui bono?
    Who benefits? I saw on twitter last night, a certain trend. Some of the "pro-israel" types were basically saying "see, now the world understands what living in israel is like" referencing the paris attacks.

    Completely disgusting..and they sounded A LOT like netanyahu did after 9/11.

    Dark hand of zionism strikes again?
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

    Knowing this will be the outcome , Why would any
    real fighting organisation do something so obviously
    stupid to cause more countries to unite and invade
    them ? None ! its the same old 'problem reaction
    solution' scenario imo ...
    I just thought precisely the same. It just makes no sense at all. Why would they do it just to get more angry wolves against them? Also, the ¨Paris being the prostitution¨ argument and that´s why deserving the attacks sounds pretty lame too when it is Russia who is bombing them no? Why not attack A Russian Embassy or something like that? It all makes no sense, although it does make sense from some other, more mischievous, dark chess game behind the scene, perspective for sure. So hard to put all these pieces together but one thing is certain. If this continues, I will consider leaving Europe. Not ouf of fear. But it´s just not nice to live so close to all the darkness.

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Do you see the pattern?

    Undamaged passports of the alleged hijackers "found" on 9/11 WTC 1 & 2 ... Terrorist passport "found" Charlie Hebdo in a car ... and now Syrian Passport "found" near body of one of Paris suicide bombers ... sure that is what you do when you plan to do this **** ... (most likely not!). How stupid & gullible do they think we are?

    More likely they planted passports to frame & set the NWO Tyranny Agenda pushing more control more losing freedoms more surveillance more Totalitarian Police Statism Agenda!

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/201511...-passport.html
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    PARIS; WHO PROFITS?

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    There’s no evidence this is a false flag – at least for now. What this seems to be proving is that Daesh is a certified pro ops with badass connections.

    Scouring a ton of reports, I found a Danish citizen describing one of the attackers to a Paris café; ultra-pro, black-clad head to toe, AK-47, very well trained. These are not your usual al-Zawahiri underwear bombers; these are precision killers. This one left the scene undisturbed, and contrary to French police, may not have been captured. He wore no suicide vest.

    French intel swears they are monitoring at least 200 nationals who came back from “Syraq”. Talk about a lousy job. Paris is hyper-policed. The mind boggles thinking of at least 8 jihadis promenading at will on a Friday night dressed as pro killers.

    For me, this is also personal. Jihad came to my hood in Paris. I left Paris last week on my usual commute back to Asia. I have always mocked Fox News describing my hood as a "no-go" area - obviously for the wrong/stupid reasons.

    They picked a small Cambodian restaurant, cheap and cozy, where the habitués are young and relatively hip. This means the quartier may have been carefully researched for months.

    They picked a mix of heavily symbolic venues.

    You have a France-German match witnessed by the President in a stadium where all barriers - ethnic, religious – dissolve, a true symbol of multiculturalism.

    You have a gig by an American band in a concert hall filled with young people.

    You have your average, cool, neighborhood cafés in the 10eme and 11eme, young, hip, secular, bobo Paris hoods.

    This points to a calibrated conceptual spectrum - carefully mapped out by French insiders; perhaps those “Syraq” returnees.

    This also points to a monumental fail by French intel and the Ministry of Interior.

    There are so many accumulated reasons for blowback; overt and covert discrimination against Muslims, leading them to feel like second-hand citizens; France’s coddling of “moderate rebels”; Sarko The First and General Hollande’s wars on Libya and Mali; the meek bombing raids in Syria; France as NATO enforcers.

    Timing: crucial. Just as the US/Brits announce they “may” have evaporated with Jihad John. And a few hours before the Vienna talks are supposed to come up with an official Top Ten terrorist list in Syria (the subject of my current article on Asia Times.)

    Cui bono?

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    COP 21 in Paris maintained:

    2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    United Nations Climate Change Conference Date 30 November 2015–
    11 December 2015 Location Paris, France Also known as COP 21/CMP 11 Participants UNFCCC member countries Website Venue site

    UNFCCC site The 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference, COP 21 or CMP 11 will be held in Paris,[1] from November 30 to December 11.[2] It will be the 21st yearly session of the Conference of the Parties to the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and the 11th session of the Meeting of the Parties to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.[3] The conference objective is to achieve a legally binding and universal agreement on climate, from all the nations of the world. Leadership of the negotiations is yet to be determined.

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Quote Posted by Pilgrim (here)
    Quote Posted by robinr1 (here)
    I gotta lol at the title of this thread..... I'm 99 percent this will be a terrorist attack in the same manner 9/11 was a terrorist attack.
    I understand your idea, there might be anything behind that event, we cannot disregard that, hard to say who knows what really happened yesterday, what is the aim of it, however, I cannot lough. Casualties and horror occurred were real...

    Pilgrim



    well I suppose at this point it still may be hard to know exactly what happened....I would agree...as for the end of your post......possibly true. possibly not. kinda contradicts what u stated a sentence earlier

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    What other current events are going on that an event like this will effect. TPTB
    have been trying to get the UK on board & various right wing politicians and even
    generals have been commenting that Britain is not pulling its weight in not
    bombing Syria. Though we are still bombing and droning in Iraq.

    The British public and many politicians in the wake of the on going enquiry into
    Blairs lies into taking us into the 2nd Iraq war, with the 'dodgy dossier , and with
    the recent election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour party leader has put a spanner
    in the works. So this attack is pointed at the UK as much as it is France. There may
    well be an attack here as well , but the wall to wall ISIS publicity will have its effect
    and Cameron who only last week declined to ask for another vote in the house
    of commons for bombing Syria, may feel the climate is right to try again.....

    It has echos of PM Chamberlain and Winston Churchill prior to WW11 for me
    as history seems destined to repeat itself.


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    France: Forestic experts inspect suicide bomber in an attacked cafe in Paris



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    Paris attacks: Cameron warns of British casualties

    24 minutes ago

    Short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34821001

    David Cameron has warned "we must be prepared for a number of British
    casualties" after nearly 130 people died in "brutal" attacks in Paris.

    The UK PM, who convened a Cobra emergency response committee meeting on
    Saturday, said Britain's terror threat level remained at "severe", but the Paris
    attacks would prompt a review.

    He also said "however much we prepare, we in the UK face the same threat".

    He told the French people: "Your pain is our pain, your fight is our fight."

    On Friday evening a series of attacks were carried out across Paris, reportedly by
    eight gunmen and suicide bombers.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34821001
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Thank you to everyone contributing commentary, posting updates and opinions. This is sad, scary, and has left me in tears.


    I do not trust my local news, the national news or any of their brainwashing tricks for the masses, so I've been coming here only and a few other alternative news sources

    My sincere condolences to our members in France...may you recover with the swiftness and keep strong.

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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    I have no way of knowing if this is a false flag or not. What I do know is that we have a global economy that is tottering on recession, and the Fed in the US is under the gun to raise interest rates. What would be a better deterrent and also a way to stimulate the world economy then a war? The timing of this thing is suspicious. Of course no matter what the cause, it is the ones that have nothing to do with this that will pay the price, the story is as old as mankind.

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    Quote United Nations Climate Change Conference Date 30 November 2015–11 December 2015 Location Paris, France..... The conference objective is to achieve a legally binding and universal agreement on climate.
    This is the globalist fascist/corporate methodology for bypassing any form of national government systems. Just like the TPP and other agreements.

    They would be ok (these agreements) if properly done ---but they are not. They are corporate and oligarch driven, in hidden ways that are designed to fulfill the agenda of the corporate oligarchy that is hiding in the backdrop of the very drive and creation of these organizations and their agreements/treaties.

    The question becomes what will be brought out and made 'real', with respect to written signed documents, at this given conference. As we well know from experience, there will be almost no coverage of this conference due to this emergent French situation.

    I'm not proposing that this conference and hiding it is a main origin of this current French false flag agenda, but that the false flag will very likely be used as a cover system, to help exclude any emergent climate agreements --- from obtaining press coverage. That it will at least be used as a situation of opportunity.

    That a legally binding cross border global agreement on climate is a powerful aim of corporate oligarchy that is hiding in the backdrop. A Powerful aim, a central desire and direction, a core fundamental aim and demand/directive of this hidden oligarchy.

    I also think that our environment needs to be cleaned up, but using it (climate control laws) as a method of achieving murder and power in a hidden context is not in any form of humane honesty or truth/correctness.



    Note, the 'hidden hand', so to speak, always aims to have multiple ins or paths to arrive at a scenario and multiple outcomes or multiple faces of outcome directions.

    In this way, a cover is built that can be spun in ways that the public cannot agree upon and thus no stable direction can be held and worked with by the public. In this, the public cannot build itself a cohesive front to deal with oligarchical intrusion and dark systems of control.

    This is when you know you are dealing with the hidden hand. When a situation has no face, no cohesion and no stable direction. In this way, the imprint and the outcome can be shaped, in situ. The hidden hand never wastes a move; multiple agendas will be driven to be completed in the face/light and in the dark/hidden.... of the one act (in Paris). This is the way it has always been done.
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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Gatwick airport is being evacuated due to a suspicious package.

    Surface to air missiles have been installed at Cap-de-la-Hague where there is a nuclear reprocessing plant. This seems to be too fast of a response, and a worrying response, to shootings and bombings in Paris. Cap-de-la-Hague is on the Normandy coast. This is very close to where I am.

    Right now, French police are chasing 4 very heavily armed people in a Citroen Berlingo car. Apparently they tried to crash a barrier to get into the centre of Paris.

    They are more than aware of what, potentially, is to come.

    So what do we do? Do we just wait until all of this directly effects us, until we lose a loved one?

    Ultimately, we are going to be fighting our own governments'........ You do all understand that, yes?


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    Default Re: Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

    Bataclan concert hall siege leaves 100 hostages dead, 4 terrorists ‘neutralized’ – reports

    Published time: 13 Nov, 2015 22:01Edited time: 14 Nov, 2015 03:17

    Once the Paris police decided to storm the Bataclan theater, where four terrorists were holding dozens of people hostage, the assailants decided to detonate the suicide belts they were wearing, according to local media reports, who added that over 110 people died as a result of the siege.

    Three of the attackers were killed after letting off their explosive devices, while the fourth died after being shot by police. The exact number of hostages killed is still unknown. The Le Parisien newspaper claims over 100 people died, with at least a dozen suffering injuries.

    The exact number of those held hostage is also unknown. Dozens of people who were evacuated from the theater have been rushed to hospitals. Both witnesses and police sources described the scene as “real carnage,” with dead bodies all over place.

    One of the gunmen at Bataclan reportedly shouted: "It's for Syria" and "Allahu Akbar!" meaning, “God is [the] greatest” in Arabic.

    It still remains unclear how the situation developed inside the concert hall. According to witnesses, the attackers stormed the venue as a California rock group ‘Eagles of Death Metal’ was performing on the stage.

    A Europe 1 journalist, who was inside the Bataclan, said the men were unmasked and carried what he recognized as Kalashnikov-type guns.

    “The assailants had time to reload at least three times. They were not masked, masters of themselves. They were very young," the reporter Julian Pearce said, according to the Liberation newspaper.

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    New round of Syria talks begin in Vienna under pall of Paris terrorist attacks

    By MATTHEW LEE and GEORGE JAHN,
    Associated Press Nov. 14, 2015 | 10:11 a.m. EST + More


    Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, right, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry address the media before a meeting in Vienna, Austria, Saturday Nov.14, 2015. Foreign ministers from more than a dozen nations have begun meeting in Vienna seeking to find a way to resolve the conflict in Syria. (Leonhard Foeger/Pool Photo via AP)



    VIENNA (AP) — Syria as a breeding ground for terrorism moved Saturday to the foreground of a meeting of foreign ministers on the war in that country, with participants linking the shooting and bombing attacks in Paris to Mideast turmoil and the opportunities it gives for terror.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov both condemned the attacks as they began meetings with senior representatives from Iran, Saudi Arabia and other countries with strongly conflicting views on how to end the more than four-year war. Key differences include what, if any role Syrian President Bashar Assad should play in any transition government and which groups fighting him should be grouped as terrorists.

    Those differences appeared to be put aside at least temporarily as the meeting started.

    "These kinds of attacks are the most vile, horrendous, outrageous, unacceptable acts on the planet," said Kerry, after speaking with Lavrov and shortly before the main meeting convened at a luxurious Vienna hotel. "And the one thing we could say to those people is that what they do in this is stiffen our resolve, all of us, to fight back, to hold people accountable, and to stand up for rule of law, which is exactly what we are here to do.

    "And if they've done anything, they've encouraged us today to do even harder work to make progress and to help resolve the crises that we face," Kerry said.

    Lavrov, standing next to Kerry, said there was "no justification for terrorist acts, and no justification for us not doing much more to defeat ISIS and al-Nusra and the like," adding: "I hope that this meeting as well would allow us to move forward."

    Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged ministers "to move beyond their differences on Syria" and work on a negotiated end to the war.

    Ahead of the meeting, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said the attacks in Paris made it all the more necessary for the international community to find a common approach in Syria and terrorism, sentiments echoed by the foreign ministers of Germany, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told Iranian state TV Saturday that the attacks in Paris show the urgency of fighting terrorism and extremism on a global level. He joined the talks later in the day.

    Jordan's foreign minister, Nasser Judeh, said the Paris attack "reaffirms our collective commitment" to fight terror and extremism wherever it may occur, while EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said no one could turn away from the common threat.

    "We are together in this: Europeans, Arabs, East and West, all the international community," she declared. "The best response to this is actually coming together, overcoming our differences, and trying together to lead the way towards peace in Syria."

    More than 250,000 people have been killed in the Syrian war. Eleven million have been uprooted from their homes. The conflict has allowed Islamic State militants to carve out significant parts of Syria and Iraq for their would-be caliphate. Europe and Syria's neighbors, meanwhile, are struggling to cope with the worst migrant crisis since World War II.

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    Update........


    Paris attacks: Couse of events, investigation, witness stories



    Published on 14 Nov 2015


    An unprecedented wave of terror attacks hit Paris - with at least 127 people
    killed in a series of shootings and suicide bombings.

    Islamic State is responsible for the massacre. Condolensces are pouring in
    from around the globe. 7 places across Paris became scenes of terror.
    Among them, a concert hall, a stadium, 2 restaurants and a bar.


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    Graphic scenes....

    Bataclan attack video: People flee Paris theater seconds after terrorists open fire



    Published on 14 Nov 2015


    Footage filmed by 'Le Monde' journalist Daniel Psenny captured the moment crowds fled
    the Bataclan concert hall in Paris, Friday, after gunmen began shooting at the crowd
    around 22:00 local time

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    'Paris tragedy should motivate world leaders combat terrorism together' - Russian official



    Published on 14 Nov 2015
    Chairman of the Russian Council Federation Committee on International Affairs Konstantin
    Kosachev expressed his deepest condolences to the people of France, following the attacks
    in Paris which left at least 127 dead and 200 injured. Kosachev was speaking outside the
    French embassy in Moscow where a vigil was being held for the victims of the Paris attacks.

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    A warning about the Paris terror attacks

    The Saker November 14, 2015

    Dear friends,

    While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.

    Coincidences?

    You tell me.

    The Saker

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