Paris Attack, multiple locations, 132 dead, 349 injured, 17 remaining in critical condition (13 Nov 2015)

[Atlas]

Posted by TargeT (here)
[...] the question should be answered IMO.

No doubt if you call these guys camel heads, send your troops there and kill their population that they will react, so there is no question why they will keep on calling upon the Jihad and fight your interests (get a sense of what I mean?)

Kill everybody: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VwwMF6biCJU

[jaybee]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Not sure how showing pictures of the dead is disrespectful, I guess here is where we differ, I don't see it as shameful or abuse... though any act can be seen that way I suppose.

Pictures of people who have just been murdered in cold blood and could be in a really horrible state - and could be used by idiots on the internet to further their own political agenda - this is where the disrespect really comes in -

I didn't like the way he went about it, but I do like the IDEA, I saw a lot of pictures and "bomb sites" that look NOTHING like an actual bomb site, with far too little or no blood evident; the question should be answered IMO.

you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?

Or are you saying you have seen suspicious scenes with your own eyes..?


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[Frenchy]

Posted by Billy (here)
This one got me.
In an open letter published on Facebook, Antoine Leiris, a France Bleu journalist who lost his wife on Friday November 13 at the Bataclan, has responded to the terrorists.”

[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone, Just been listening to Kerry Cassidy's interviewing Ole Dammegard......

He revealed the Patrick Pelloux ( also a journalist, ACTOR... ) was involved with charlie Hedbo, and now, Just happened to be called into Bataclan..... I well remember his apparent anguish after Charlie......

BEWARE........ Remember Kate & Gerry Mc Cann, Robbie Parker, ... et al ? ?

[Harley]

Hi avid

Posted by avid (here)
Tianjin? Another hit on China?
It's time we abandon the term 'false flags', and just admit we are at war with the corporatocracy, who will stop at nothing to get global control. Media manipulation, distraction via mindnumbing entertainment, poisoning surrepticiously by diet and the air, killing for resources in vulnerable places, weilding powers of blackmail over all politicians and the legal systems...
If Putin actually said he would not go after 'the dog that bit him, but the owner', after the downing of the Russian plane, and that he knew the owners were the Vanguard Corporation, and Raytheon, and hopefully criminals are being taken out, that would be wondrous.
All we have now, in my country, is mistrust and betrayal - there is no democracy.

So how about a new title for 'false flag' apportioning blame correctly - 'globalist hit', 'bankster benefit event', 'elite elevation event' or whatever, c'mon you marketing wizards - let us put it in the latest context.

I think the term False Flag is still appropriate here, as it is a violent act which is being blamed on the 'Bad Boys' ISIL (Terrorists) in order to fool and garner support from the people (and other nations).

Also I wanted to comment that I found it interesting that you mentioned Tianjin, China and Raytheon in the same post.

Because of the way the Chinese put such a tight lid on it, I don't think the explosions at Tianjin had anything to do with terrorism. You can read my new post on it here:
Re: China develops new aircraft cloaking material

[Rocky_Shorz]

I wonder if Putin is sending a warning to those he knows is behind all of this...

33 Million Reward
French, Russian Raids in Syria Kill 33 IS Jihadists in 3 Days
ISIS abandoning capital Raqqa, and setting up in Mosul, Iraq, in face of France bombs

"25 ISIS elements killed including European explosives expert in aerial bombing in Mosul"

There are about 2,400 t of irradiated+unirradiated PU from civilian nuclear power reactors in 33 countries

33 bloodlines...

Charles' Buddies...

[Harley]

Haven't seen this here yet so 'scuse me if it's already been posted.

Interesting video which describes 'How the Syrian civil war became the mess it is today'.

Syria's War: Who Is Fighting And Why

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

[TODD & NORA]

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[ulli]

Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.

[norman]

Posted by ulli (here)
Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.

The more this event in Paris looks like a complete inside job, the more I think the original plan could be falling apart.

For France to do this to itself, there are more than one way of reading the situation. We know, I think, that France is one of the countries that's getting very fed up with the status quo with the western alliance. They are traditional allies of Russia, only interrupted by the cold war.

It's still unclear what Russia is up to but there are signs they are attacking the lifeblood of the cabal, ISIS OIL, Afghan/Pakistan opium. The wider picture looks like things are shaping up for a huge power shift, and I'm guessing France is ready to jump, EU or no EU, after all, Britain is threatening to cut loose too, but not in any obvious way to do with the power struggle

[Cidersomerset]

you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be
trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?

Or are you saying you have seen suspicious scenes with your own eyes..?

That reminds me of an article I saw yesterday .....

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RT NEWS......

Image of Canadian Sikh man photoshopped to look like terrorist linked to Paris attacks

Published time: 16 Nov, 2015 20:36



A Sikh man from Canada found himself at the center of unwanted attention after a
bathroom selfie he took was doctored to make him look like one of the suicide
bombers involved in the Paris attacks and then spread in the media.

The digitally altered image of Veerender Jubbal showed him wearing what looked
like a suicide vest and holding a Quran. It appeared on the front-page of one of
Spain’s largest newspapers, La Razon.’

Read more: Image of Canadian Sikh man photoshopped to look like terrorist linked
to Paris attacks

https://www.rt.com/news/322347-canad...ampaign=chrome

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French police arrest, lead off suspects during Saint Denis anti-terror op

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_-RyRxp9ML8

Published on 18 Nov 2015
The French police and army swooped on a Paris suburb early Wednesday amid
heavy gunfire and explosions in the hunt for those behind last Friday’s attacks. At
least two extremists, including a female suicide bomber, have been killed. Seven
people were arrested during the raid.

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Paris attacks 'mastermind' Abaaoud fate unknown - Molins

36 minutes ago

short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34859082

The Paris prosecutor has said the fate of the suspected organiser of Friday's attacks
remains unknown after a police raid on a flat ended in bloodshed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34859082

[TargeT]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
[...] the question should be answered IMO.

No doubt if you call these guys camel heads, send your troops there and kill their population that they will react, so there is no question why they will keep on calling upon the Jihad and fight your interests (get a sense of what I mean?)

Kill everybody: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq

Oh definitely, during my time in southern Iraq I could trace every single attack back to something "we" did (usually run over a kid, or accidental shooting or other atrocity, not minor stuff); I'm still not on board with "us policy" equating with "kill everybody" that's just extreme rhetoric. Perhaps there were small isolated incidents of that (and I don't doubt there were) but not as a whole.... at the same time I agree, you don't send warriors in to be peace makers, occupation is a terrible idea, every time.

I never saw any french troops, but there were a lot of British in the area; mostly didn't want to be there, just like the rest of us.

[TargeT]

Posted by jaybee (here)
you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?
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True, but it takes quite a bit of effort and it's generally accepted that the speed with which the photos hit the internet validates them somewhat; though you definitely should look deeper, meta data and "just looking" usually is enough, Photoshop; even when done expertly never looks perfect, and there are image analysis utilities that look for alteration (as it's mostly done by formula and leaves an obvious "marker" forensically).

I have never seen a "fake" bomb-scene in person.

[Atlas]

Sometimes I think the E.T.s are watching all this happening down here from up there and thinking: "are you guys done yet or what?"

Rachid Taha ft.Mick Jones | Voila Voila - Rock Against Fascism:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wHsYzf-EpDs

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uHy2ILGnEfY

[waves]

Posted by promezeus (here)

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO! I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which includes russia, then he is part of the disinfo campaign, a campaign which does NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is simply promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.

The articles are from Davids headline page and he is a journalist as well as researcher . He does not condone or agree with every issue he posts , as do I or anyone , unless its a specific article or piece you wish to highlight.

The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading. If your belief system regarding him allows you to ignore such blatant nwo promotion like this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?

You are absolutely right and I think it's a crucial point to keep in mind in these discussions. Keeping an eye on where you yourself may be programmed entails staying extremely self-aware about the beliefs you have CHOSEN to buy into without any means of proving, and watching what urges you have to make concrete declarations about like "(Icke).. is certainly not a dis info agent." There a big difference between saying that with a slammed door or saying "I am of the belief that...".

Re Icke, I have also now read multiple well thought out arguments showing evidence of duplicity. I'm still in observation and always trying to determine where the line between disinfo and info is with him and possible underlying agenda, especially now that he has slowly gathered such a massive audience.

Thanks for speaking out, Promezeus.

[ulli]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.

The more this event in Paris looks like a complete inside job, the more I think the original plan could be falling apart.

For France to do this to itself, there are more than one way of reading the situation. We know, I think, that France is one of the countries that's getting very fed up with the status quo with the western alliance. They are traditional allies of Russia, only interrupted by the cold war.

It's still unclear what Russia is up to but there are signs they are attacking the lifeblood of the cabal, ISIS OIL, Afghan/Pakistan opium. The wider picture looks like things are shaping up for a huge power shift, and I'm guessing France is ready to jump, EU or no EU, after all, Britain is threatening to cut loose too, but not in any obvious way to do with the power struggle

I hope you are right. The Internet is a factor which makes it harder for them, and people are waking up.
We shall see. The most important thing is to get the suppressed inventions out there. And the agricultural solutions, the water solutions the energy solutions.
Then to have people form cohesive communities and show one another respect, and focus on their human similarities rather than their cultural differences.

[Cidersomerset]

Just to be clear David Icke is not a 'dis info agent' imo .........

[observer]

Posted by TargeT (here)
click-on forwarding icon to see TargeT's comment # 391.

The historic "eye-for-an-eye" exchange can be traced back to the Siege of Ma'arra in 1098, when the Crusaders ate dead babies in the presence of their mothers to send a message of "shock-and-awl" to the Muslim adversaries.

"The Siege of Ma'arra", Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma%27arra

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mn-bCWLeXyQ

BTW: French Crusaders !

[jaybee]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)
you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?
.

True, but it takes quite a bit of effort and it's generally accepted that the speed with which the photos hit the internet validates them somewhat; though you definitely should look deeper, meta data and "just looking" usually is enough, Photoshop; even when done expertly never looks perfect, and there are image analysis utilities that look for alteration (as it's mostly done by formula and leaves an obvious "marker" forensically).

YOU might be able to look at the meta data and whatnot but most people could probably be fooled by an expertly manipulated image..? especially if it appealed to their confirmation bias..?

There are a lot of clever geeks out there with political agendas, I think...

I have never seen a "fake" bomb-scene in person.

ok - cheers for your replies :-)

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[norman]

Ole Dammegard gives his view, to Alfred Webber:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0

I posted this video before I watched it, but, let me tell you, he's picking all kinds of holes in the official story !

[jaybee]

Posted by waves (here)
You are absolutely right and I think it's a crucial point to keep in mind in these discussions. Keeping an eye on where you yourself may be programmed entails staying extremely self-aware about the beliefs you have CHOSEN to buy into without any means of proving, and watching what urges you have to make concrete declarations about like "(Icke).. is certainly not a dis info agent." There a big difference between saying that with a slammed door or saying "I am of the belief that...".

Re Icke, I have also now read multiple well thought out arguments showing evidence of duplicity. I'm still in observation and always trying to determine where the line between disinfo and info is with him and possible underlying agenda, especially now that he has slowly gathered such a massive audience.

Thanks for speaking out, Promezeus.

there may also be an element of addiction to attention to consider as well - addiction to being famous for taking a certain stance - being in the public eye and feeling influential -

it must be quite a buzz being a 'somebody' and being in the thick of it -- - and the adreneline that goes with all that -


basically - I don't think anyone is above scrutiny -

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