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    Yesterday I did not believe in this. I thought just like you that the earth was a globe it was round. Basically that's what everyone else told me. That's what nasa told me and that's what science in the classroom told me. But we all know how that goes...

    I watched a video on Kelli in the raw interviewing this guy named Mark Siergent. He came across some of the theroies regarding the flat earth. He tried to disprove it but he couldn't so instead he searched ways to prove its existence and he came across that nasa is a lie the biggest one ever to deceive you about the existence of flat earth which is nasas whole purpose to make you believe in the globe.

    Along with all the other space agencies that were filtered through this one. Why do you think the moon landings were faked? There are a lot of mind control programs and deception going on regarding these programs. There hasn't been a single legit picture of earth from space that nasa has taken. They even admit it, all the pictures that are released are photo shopped or of the like.

    With that being said I think this is another truth we have to awaken to.. We know about all the rest but this one... This is another piece to the puzzle all you have to do is google flat earth clues. There are interview and actual proof of this. The lie goes deep but this particular one goes deeper.

    Even on Project Avalon we see the globe its because that is what we assume the earth looks like because of what others have told us , so I'm not telling you to assume that the earth is flat go see for yourself can you astral project? Or remote view? Go see for yourself or look at the information later because it is there. Or you can blindly believe anything that Nasa will tell you. GO ahead do your research its going to be like another awe moment for you like you are just bow waking up for the second time, you are uncovering more parts to the puzzle. I wish I could gather all the information for you maybe I wilk but now I am on a mobile phone so it is milmuch harder. Maybe when you start to reply I can answer your questions in request and direct you to the right material . Thus is open to discusiion so I want to see your state of mind when you reply (;

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    Indeed.. We could put an end to all this FE discussion if Math Powerland gets his way.
    He says they are hiding land beyond Antarctica. Let the expedition begin.
    He is very serious.
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    oh no... we really can't start this here... where all the militant control mods that are supposed to be cleaning this stuff up?... if we start dragging this into the forum and into the conspiracy research section especially, it's going to suck up so much energy... and waste so much time...

    Really... wasn't there a policy or discussion or agreement that we weren't going to drag ourselves into this trap? This can do no good... I am not going to argue for or against an interpretation that came out of the dark ages purportedly championed by a non scientist artistic renderer? with admitted connections to NASA?... under the guise of a whistle blower?... does anyone really want to get that much stink on their fingers?

    troll trap alert ...

    If it hasn't already been established, or these posters are ignoring a decreed protocol, then I am highly recommending that this maybe put under a section under which Avalon clearly dissociates itself from any interpretation... this is a contamination of conspiracy research, the whole world of science is against this, and the entire world of legitimate conspiracy research... this is ant-science, anti-logic, and dangerous...

    Can someone please move this thread to an appropriate section... (out of here!) and let it continue unhindered in full freedom of expression in the "fantasy/fiction/spirit channeling or whatever that other forum category that is with the clear notice... please and thank you...


    ...before Avalon gets associated with interpretations that came out of the dark ages... and soon comes to be known as the FLAT EARTH FORUM...

    and contaminate their good reputation on this albatross of a non-subject...
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    Agree with sigma6

    We've been warned (and have been warning) of the terrorist threat for the past 5 or 6 years now and in case no-one has noticed it is now getting serious and full-blown.

    If we allow ourselves to be drawn into the Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory debates, of which I personally believe is a planned ruse to distract everyone (interesting how it suddenly reared it's head just recently, no?), than it will do exactly that. Distract us.

    The terrorist threat is really escalating right now and, although I don't know just how bad it's going to get, I know that we've been warned that it's going to get very bad and that it'll go on for the next 10 years or so.

    So in my opinion, I think it would be prudent to put it on the back burner until maybe 2030 or so.

    After all, no matter what might come out of the Flat Earth debates, it will not help us at all as we enter this period of crises.

    But one thing that is for sure. It will blind us.

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    I was a sailor and seen how an approaching ship rise from the horizon. which means the earth is not flat

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    This thread is great Zen practice, my advice to the mods, just let it be... Not everyone is at the same level... The topic is actually being discussed, so be it, it is reality, can't hide it in a dark corner.

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    DIY shows round edges:


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    Quote Posted by Harley (here)
    [...] maybe 2030 or so.
    Posted by NASA: Apophis' Earth Encounters in 2029 and 2036

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    Default Re: Flat Earth the ultimate conspiracy

    All distractions are to take a persons attention away from the importance of personal spiritual evolution.

    Who and what is in opposition to the spiritual awakening of the human race?

    When David Icke says that "Only unconditional love is real the rest is illusion" one would think people would take heed of him.
    Seems that most are into finding out what the " enemy" is up to and fighting back---that has been tried for thousands od years and where are we?

    David says that the TPTB are scared of us waking up in a spiritual sense and of course also seeing what they are up to in the illusion.

    Flat Earth topic is just another interesting but flawed topic. As said the ocean for sure is not flat--you can only see ships about twelve miles away before they disappear under the horizon.

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    Dear Avalonians,

    I am very grateful for whom decided to publish this subject here. I lost two hours of my life watching an youtube video about the Flat Earth and I came to a conclusion that we don't know anything really.

    We only know what people tell us about, like what NAsa told us about. But we are not a long haul aircraft pilot, we are not astronauts and we are not sailors to gather evidences to prove if the Earth is flat or if it is round.

    I decided that I would not investigate by myself cause there are more important issues to do but I am very grateful for the video posted by Atlas that shows at least some images that we can draw conclusions.

    Thank you Jayren for bringing this subject here.

    I would invite avalonians to show evidences and what they did to prove or disprove this fact.

    Kind Regards,

    Paula

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    Oh, thanks for posting this because I havn't had such a good laugh in ages
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    Jayren, can you paraphrase what you considered to be 3-5 of the most important arguments in the video that made you reconsider your stance?

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    I've made use of communications satellites, tracking their orbit and receiving their downlink signals with dish antennas. They orbit in the way the mathematics predicts they do over a 'round' earth - both the geostationary ones and the low-earth orbit ones.

    That's one hell of a mechanical trick to accomplish in some conspiratorial flat-earth world. If you include all the design engineers, launches, tracking engineers, uplink and downlink personnel, amateur satellite spotters all over the world, it's gonna be damn hard to hide a flat earth! And for what reason?

    The earth is a globe folks. Now let's move on and not allow casual forum onlookers think any of us are bonkers.
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    Default Re: Flat Earth the ultimate conspiracy

    We already spent 283 posts over 3 months discussing this flat earth "theory".

    Here's a link to the post with Bill's "final added note", closing that earlier thread: A Flat Earth not Round -- Post #283.

    This new thread is hereby closed as well.
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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    oh no... we really can't start this here... where all the militant control mods that are supposed to be cleaning this stuff up?...

    "militant control mods" is a bit of a slap in the face, and, because I have spoken up not only to the mods but also publicly about this psyop (or is it a gullibility test?), I take your comment personally. The rest of your post pretty much says you don't want this crap on Avalon. Is that correct, and if so, please tell me how you would recommend handling it if you were one of the mods.

    If your response is compassionate, does your compassion go out to the poster that got hoodwinked, or does it go out to nearly 2000 active members and many thousands of non-members that read Avalon posts? You might say they are not mutually exclusive, but in a big way, they are mutually exclusive - because most of us have limited time to read and gather information. It is as if we are all swimming in a pool together, and someone with diarrhea has an accident in the water. Should we all stay in the water? It might make the person feel better emotionally.

    "Flat Earth" is diarrhea in the pool.

    There are literally thousands of subjects that people are discussing that I personally don't want to see on Avalon. Avalon is a good forum, the "best of genre", and I don't want to erode that by letting an "anything goes!" decree ruin Avalon - especially if it is to prove we are so broadminded that, well, anything goes. If "anything goes" was the moderation style, this forum would be a bucket of drivel with a few chunks of important material floating in it.

    Imagine that someone is nefarious and want to make a mockery of Avalon and its members.
    new thread title: Thermometer Conspiracy! The Boiling Point of Water is a LIE!

    new thread body: I stumbled across some research that proves that the boiling point of water is actually much lower than we have been told. The malevolent Global Rulers have been LYING to us! The real boiling point is not 100°C or 212°F, it is actually 87°C or 188.6°F - "they" have been lying to us! All thermometers in the world have been made wrong ON PURPOSE!
    You wanna have that discussion?

    The undeclared World War III is currently happening, and people want to spend their time on "flat earth" nonsense? What's even worse is to hear people say they don't really know anything - that possibly everything scientific they have been told is a lie. How terribly disempowering - even crippling. - and it erroneously gives massive extra power over us to the rich and powerful "Elite" assholes that own and run the world.

    (I was typing and did not see that Paul had closed the thread. Thanks Paul.)

    Thread closed.


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