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    Default We teach best what we most need to learn.

    "We teach best, what we most need to learn". A quote from Richard Bach, Illusions:
    The reluctant Messiah.

    The quote closely relates to A Course in Miracles, where it says, "We all teach and
    We teach constantly". ACIM also says, "the way we learn is by teaching"

    Both books are similar, as are most Spiritual teachings. They both set us on the
    course of listening to Our own inner teacher/guide and show the truth in the
    statement----"OF Myself I can do nothing" ACIM

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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    Christ said similar.
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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

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    Christ said similar.
    With love
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    Most people prefer not to believe they are teachers,
    but in some way they still are, sometimes they even
    use words.

    Personally have enjoyed the teachings of Greybeard!

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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    Done it, lived it, entirely true: we teach best what we most need to learn - and we become expert at it.


    Quote Posted by Grizz Griswold (here)
    "We teach best, what we most need to learn". A quote from Richard Bach, Illusions:
    The reluctant Messiah.

    The quote closely relates to A Course in Miracles, where it says, "We all teach and
    We teach constantly". ACIM also says, "the way we learn is by teaching"

    Both books are similar, as are most Spiritual teachings. They both set us on the
    course of listening to Our own inner teacher/guide and show the truth in the
    statement----"OF Myself I can do nothing" ACIM

    With Love
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    How to let the desire of your mind become the desire of your heart - Gurdjieff

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    Done it, lived it, entirely true: we teach best what we most need to learn - and we become expert at it.
    Hmm... I'd change this a bit.

    We teach/learn best that which we are truly interested in (which removes the "mystic" aspect I suppose), or have the most sensual investment (ie 5 senses involved the most).

    Illustrated here:


    it has to do with "presence" and "will" first, but there is possibly some "destiny" involvement via epigenetic memory or something similar...
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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    I prefer the word sharing.
    Im fairly enthusiastic about what has been found and like to share it.
    Sometimes in sharing I am looking for some confirmation that it is correct and welcome a differing view point.
    So yes I share what I need to learn.
    Thanks for the compliment Grizz.
    I continue to learn from you.
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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    WOW, what a good talk in this video!!! Must listen to the end, the main point is there.

    Most of the techniques he used, visual, auditory, kinesthetic senses (plus taste sometimes) are part of NLP training. Moving trhough one familiar context with the new content is part of it too. Those are techniques, not the learning as such.

    It goes much further.

    Learning has to do with the 5 senses input as a process, and memory as a consequence and tool, which are learning through cumul of sometimes diverse knowledge.

    But true learninf, the learning we need to have in order to transform our world, inner and outer, goes much much further.

    Learning has to do with creating new mental space and for this, one has to create new beliefs and even sometimes shakes it very deeply ingrained inner values.

    True Learning has to do with destroying an old mental space and creating anew.

    Very few people are apt to do it without help, most learn through cumul, wich is not transformative at all, but a useful tool in order to be able to tilt the learned cumulative information/knowledge and provoke change.

    For this, transformation of belief systems is a must. Knowing one's values and its impact on the new learning presented is also necessary.

    Plus, true teachers teach and use the methods that provoke beliefs systems changes, towards full creativity .

    Also learning for an expanding brain and heart (both stupendous motivators) is another key. Engaging the learner through intellect stimulation and heart involvement (this is emotions based, but yet more than emotions, it is through love of learning, knowing that our mission can be helped through it). Brain and heart being the engagers for the journey. A good trainer knows this and uses it.

    If one needs to learn the above, there is no better place than teaching it.





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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Done it, lived it, entirely true: we teach best what we most need to learn - and we become expert at it.
    Hmm... I'd change this a bit.

    We teach/learn best that which we are truly interested in (which removes the "mystic" aspect I suppose), or have the most sensual investment (ie 5 senses involved the most).

    Illustrated here:


    it has to do with "presence" and "will" first, but there is possibly some "destiny" involvement via epigenetic memory or something similar...
    Last edited by Flash; 25th November 2015 at 19:08.
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    Plus, true teachers teach and use the methods that provoke beliefs systems changes, towards full creativity .
    With one addition: de-struction

    To me this is what the Iconoclast is; a teacher that understands sometimes the most important part of learning is de constructing what is already "known".

    My kids follow the "unschooling" homeschool method; it's been working great so far.
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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    Agreed, great for your kids.

    Deconstruction, I call changing beliefs systems. This is basically the same in my views - desconstruct what you learned and know to build anew - sometimes you will keep part of the old, but in a new context and format, making everything new.

    I really think we are talking on the same wavelenght Target.

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    Plus, true teachers teach and use the methods that provoke beliefs systems changes, towards full creativity .
    With one addition: de-struction

    To me this is what the Iconoclast is; a teacher that understands sometimes the most important part of learning is de constructing what is already "known".

    My kids follow the "unschooling" homeschool method; it's been working great so far.
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    Default Re: We teach best what we most need to learn.

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Agreed, great for your kids.

    Deconstruction, I call changing beliefs systems. This is basically the same in my views - desconstruct what you learned and know to build anew - sometimes you will keep part of the old, but in a new context and format, making everything new.

    I really think we are talking on the same wavelenght Target.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Plus, true teachers teach and use the methods that provoke beliefs systems changes, towards full creativity .
    With one addition: de-struction

    To me this is what the Iconoclast is; a teacher that understands sometimes the most important part of learning is de constructing what is already "known".

    My kids follow the "unschooling" homeschool method; it's been working great so far.
    Changing our old belief system is a big part of learning. What we believe to be true and Truth, can be very different.
    Our inner teacher/guide is already trying to bring truth to us, but because we already think we know, we're not very
    accepting of learning and so we interfere.

    Teach attack in any form and you have learned it, and it will hurt you.
    Yet this learning is not immortal, and you can unlearn it by not teaching it.

    Every lesson You teach You are learning.
    Therefore: Teach only Love for that is what You are.

    Thanks Flash and Target, for Your teachings.

    With Love
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