Closing the Avalon accounts of two long standing members

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bingo (here)
Paul, May we have a concrete example of the kind of harm to which you are referring?

There is where it gets a bit more complicated.

I must respect the privacy of others who have provided us with credible and consistent reports. If I go into detail as to the kind of harm, past what's evident in my opening post on this thread regarding counseling of victims of systemic abuse, then I risk violating their confidentiality.

This was a major reason it took us the better part of a year to go public. The private matters between Christine and Bill were their private matters; that was clear to all of us.

But with a sufficient number and quality of such reports, over time, we decided we had to go public.

[Limor Wolf]

Posted by Finefeather (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
I believe there are layers to unconditional love as well, sometimes what doesn't appear as love, actually is

Eventually we all want to do what's best, that says a lot in this beautiful dual planet's book

That seems to be the usual stance we like to take when things get a little difficult to accept.
So many words have had their true meanings 'adjusted' simply because we cannot commit to reality... here comes another one

When things get a little difficult, we have the tendency to dive into making assumptions, and maybe the point here in this thread is for us to be a little careful with that

[transiten]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by transiten (here)
Personally I think this thread is one of the most important on Avalon ever because anything political/otherwordly-dimensional/and spiritual is personal so we should keep on watching our own shadow. I'm absolutely convinced I have done unto others what I've experienced in my recent lifetime, that is i have been invovlved in black magic by free will or manipulation in former lifetimes and in this lifetime I have had to experience the other side of the coin by being decieved by a psycho-the-rapist and brainwashed by a meditation guru. I'm still alive and hope I have developed a sense of who's to trust and not although I also lost some money to a "healer" recommended by someone on Avalon that now has made me never trust any healer I haven't met personally ever again.

This is the bottom line, transiten, and I would like to emphasize every word you wrote.
Thank you.
And this is exactly why the moderators were so concerned, because they knew that people were getting hurt.

We all know by now that dark entities exist and that some of our bravest are constantly getting exposed.
And I want to make a distinction, too, between courage and recklessness, without judgement.

Courageous people know that there are pitfalls and dangers and are always on guard, while proceeding into the unknown. Reckless people are driven by faith.
Over-confident, totally relying on their knowledge that life will continue eternally where no fear of death ever enters.
I'm glad such people exist, as they often clear a path for those who come after them.
But, anyone who wishes to travel at their side and does not yet have such a high degree of faith might expose themselves to getting hurt, confused, and even traumatized.

So the choice is ours, either stay with Avalon, where we can be assured of a leadership who manage the journey with a sense of responsibility or we go on a wild adventurous ride with the other type of traveler.

It's just that when they advertise themselves as "healers" that things get unbalanced. If one is sick one might prefer to be transported in a well-equipped ambulance rather then ride on bare horseback up at the front row of the Charge of the Light Brigade.

And yes, the word therapist can then easily become the rapist.
Fritz Perls, the founder of Gestalt Therapy, called it "mind f**king".

If someone drinks water from a river where it enters the sea they can be sure that water is no longer 100% pure, the way it would be near the source, or spring.

Sorry for all the metaphors, I couldn't think of a better way of making my point.

Like your metaphors ulli! I just want to be clear about that the "healer" was not a member of Avalon but recommended by an Avalon member, no blame on this last person. This happened when I was desperately seeking help for my Lyme that never seemed to go away. (I now have found 2 good therapists: one homeopath and one working with herbs)

[Valley]

I'm like Bill and not doing any (thanks) button pushing here on this thread... and I feel no need to pick any side over the other here. But I think because C's perspective/reasonings are not clearly known or shown here, it serves to make her look like a 'worse' person than she may actually be. It seems that something majorly emotional happened that triggered her into these seemingly senseless acts.

Perhaps B could fill us in on what led up to the 'robbery' and what reasons he may speculate on as to why she would do such things. It seems that there must have been at least some harsh words spoken or cheating perhaps. I'm just speculating here... but does he think this was her plan all along... to rob him blind at her first/best opportunity? Is this what she has done in previous affairs? Is this the kind of person she is or has been in the past?... Or was this just a one-time 'golden opportunity' that she felt she couldn't pass up, while in a traumatized state of mind?

Any help here Mr B, or other 'insiders'? Just trying to understand her thinking/headspace at the time.

It feels strange even getting involved in these private affairs, but it was chosen to make all this public here, and it's the 'talk of the town' right now so I'm just 'pitching in' and following the 'breadcrumbs', trying to make sense of it all and see a more complete picture.

Glad to hear/see that you're taking this all in stride Bill and faring well. We all must move on... together.

Bless...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Valley (here)
Perhaps B could fill us in on what led up to the 'robbery' and what reasons he may speculate on as to why she would do such things.

I doubt you'll be reading that in this forum, Valley. That's his and Christine's business.

The focus of myself and the other moderators is the well being of this forum, its members, and others in the world who might benefit from our cautionary message.

[3(C)+me]

This tread should as all threads run it's course.
Several suggestions were made to close this thread, why?
It's a touchy subject, indirectly about Bill, about relationships and breakups, about healers, which it seems get close to home with all of us.
But why close?
Because it seems some people are not confortable with conflict.
This thread could run off the rails at any second because of the highly charged subject but
it doesn't,
gets close but not quite.
Life without some conflict would to me be boring, but people hide from it and do not just look it in the face and work it out and deal with all the uncomfortable emotions it brings up in us.
Which is why I like this tread because it comes close but not quite and that is why I like this forum so much.
Kudos to all.

[Delight]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
If you care to watch the beginning of this video you will hear Bill reciting a warrior creed…
..........if he suddenly has now thrown his self chosen creed out the door.

Maybe the creed's declaration was heeded and produced by that mystery (our being and UNI's mind which is so much larger than we Think). We cannot perceive except by result AND what we believe we want, we may change after the fruits are eaten?

I have no parents:
I make the heaven and earth my parents.

I have no home:
I make awareness my home.

I have no life and death:
I make the tides of breathing my life and death.

I have no divine powers:
I make honesty my divine power.

I have no means:
I make understanding my means.

I have no secrets:
I make character my secret.

I have no body:
I make endurance my body.

I have no eyes:
I make the flash of lightening my eyes.

I have no ears:
I make sensibility my ears.

I have no limbs:
I make promptness my limbs.

I have no strategy:
I make "unshadowed by thought" my strategy.

I have no design:
I make "seizing opportunity by the forelock" my design.

I have no miracles:
I make right action my miracle.

I have no principles:
I make adaptability to all circumstances my principle.

I have no tactics:
I make emptiness and fullness my tactics.

I have no talent:
I make ready wit my talent.

I have no friends:
I make my mind my friend.

I have no enemy:
I make carelessness my enemy.

I have no armor:
I make benevolence and righteousness my armor.

I have no castle:
I make immovable mind my castle.

I have no sword:
I make absence of self my sword.

a warrior's creed - anonymous samurai song - 14th century

The warrior in this creed is bared to the bone. It is a creed completely pared to beyond minimum and comfort-less.
It seems like the desert, like parched lips, like a heart that has been wrung dry of any "luxury".
So poignant that we receive ALL we determine is ours.
If we have doubt, the doubt operates.

Did Bill forget what he asked to receive?
Was this a chance to test his truth...is he receiving understanding through losing his gold?

After reading what others have to say, I am still struck by my own take on the issue...that it is a micro-reflection of EVERY one's much larger issue....
What is the process manifesting this "world"
IMO, we cannot avoid the fact of a scaffold on which we hang our experience.

We build the city of our daily life.
In 3D/4D, we request and we receive by our own expectations.
We are experiencers of symbolic forms.
The issue is the mechanism of this how of 3D/4D physicality/mind and why we might want to make our creeds a more conscious process.

This creed may have been a one off declaration that Bill recited?
It could be his (present/past) life motto?
He could be celebrating a chance to prove its truth for him OR ditch it in the future.

Rather than seeing his experience as a random attack from a woman turned monster,
I prefer to see the results of (unconscious) contemplation from Bill and his partner.

The Artist as Healer of the World
In alignment with their mythic identity as would-be hero or heroine, the artist (arche)typically has to wrestle with their inner “demons.” The artist’s inner demons are internalized, personalized reflections of the very same “demons” that are being played out collectively on the world stage.

Like all of us, the artist suffers from the spirit of the age. Having permeable boundaries and being by nature highly empathic, sensitive and intuitive, an artist is able to introject into themselves and creatively “out-picture” and express what is happening both within themselves and the world in which they live. The artist’s inner process, like that of all of us, is a manifestation of the field around them, in which they are inseparably contained and of which they are an expression.

The “daemonic” is an archetypal, transpersonal energy, greater than the merely personal, which nonlocally pervades the entire field and can literally take us over, compelling us to unconsciously act it out so as to give shape and form to itself. The daemonic is a reflection of the part of ourselves that is split-off from itself, which is to say separated from our unity with all things.

This dissociated part of ourselves develops a seemingly quasi-independent, autonomous life and will of its own, appearing as an alien “other,” not under the control of the ego. In having it out with and coming to terms with the daemonic within themselves, the artist is able to translate these energies into something useful, both for themselves and the world around them. Encoded in the daemonic is everything we need for our self-realization, as if the daemonic is a compensation of the deeper unified and unifying field, offering us exactly what is required for us to wake up.

Anything we are not in conscious relationship with “possesses” us from behind, affecting us beneath our conscious awareness. If we don’t consciously relate with these split-off parts of ourselves, they constellate negatively and become “demonic,” in that they manifest, whether it be inwardly or outwardly, in a destructive manner.

If in our avoidance of consciously relating with these energies we allow ourselves to become unconsciously possessed by them, we become their unwitting minion, their agent of incarnation into our three dimensional world, creating destruction in life, whether individually, in our personal lives, or collectively, on the world stage. The artist, on the other hand, by creatively expressing and thereby liberating their experience, is able to extract from the daemonic a blessing which imbues their work with a corresponding numinous power, which in-fluences (and “in-flows” into) others.......Paul Levy

So as an artist, we can make conscious our intention for blessing by demonstration of blessed. My preference as an artist is is that I dispense with the austerity program: no needs for healing because I am HEALTH!

This is my creed .......
Where is my wealth? It is in my own energy displayed. It is always renewed.
Poverty is temporary lack of available know how. I know how. We know how.

All is well. I am here, not driven anywhere in desperation.
Short term relief at long term expense is a poor destination.
There is no problem, no reaction, no solution.

I am whole and relieved of pressure to move except by the choice of my spirit's calling.
Who are my beloveds? They are my friendly companions without guile or guilt and
learning to claim what is REALLY desired.

There is only one power and many expressions. We are here now to observe our own individual expression. We are artists of living becoming conscious of our art.

[Valley]

That's cool Paul... I respect everyone's views and actions here (though I may not always agree). I'm just sharing my views and asking some relevant questions.
Peace...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by cccme (here)

It's a touchy subject, indirectly about Bill, about relationships and breakups, about healers, which it seems get close to home with all of us.

Yes, really, really sensitive. The mods worked very hard at this for quite a while, after the initial external complaint was received.

It was that complaint that started this all off, and brought it all to a kind of tipping point. It was never about a relationship or a theft. Those were prior, and subsidiary.

It's really about healing and healers. Healing can sometimes be a very dangerous thing to do. Certainly if one is unqualified and inexperienced... no matter how well-meaning. MANY here will agree. Healing is just not for well-meaning amateurs.

Let's put it this way. One might bravely wade into a dangerous and/or demonic situation with all the best intentions in the world, courage in hand, David vs Goliath.

'David' doesn't always slay the giant. Sometimes, a healer might emerge from that, rather changed. A doctor or nurse treating a Smallpox or Ebola patient can easily become infected just through a tiny hole in their gloves.

Then, they can infect others. These things (whatever one might call them) jump from person to person like viruses. Small holes are all that's needed, sometimes.

Every experienced spiritual healer knows of good shamans who have since somehow turned 'black'. A real Darth Vader story, in some cases.

One close friend, who was suffering greatly at the time, once asked me to pray for them, and NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT try to intercede. They knew full well the serious dangers. They were asking for help, but were also trying to protect me and others. This kind of self-responsibility is always most valuable and is always to be respected and taken seriously.

[Robin]

Since the focus of the thread is about legitimate concerns about unqualified healers healing those who have been victimized in terrible ways, then I honestly agree with the intentions to create a thread voicing concerns for an individual with the intent to let people know what they are getting into. I fully support this as I think everybody has the right to know how their energy can possibly be affected by interacting with certain people, just like everybody deserves to know that there are energetic parasites in every corner of authority structures.

What I constantly reinforce in everybody I come across is this. Every single being in this universe has the right to sell something, even if it poison. As long as the buyer knows it is poison one way or another, then it is fair game. At the same time, the buyer has every right to reject the poison and instead focus their energy on a different seller. We are all adults and can make decisions for ourselves on what to put into our bodies.

I think that C is a wonderful healer, and I don't want anyone to misconstrue my last statement with false opinions about her. BUT I will also say this. I sincerely believe that the very best healer one could go to is to somebody who has direct experience in the field. In other words:

An Alcoholic can get the best advice and sympathy from a recovering Alcoholic with years of sobriety and proven methods that work for them.

A victim of child abuse can get the best advice and sympathy from a past victim of child abuse with years of self-healing from the trauma and who has become successful in their endeavors.

A victim of MILAB can get the best advice and sympathy from a former victim of MILAB who has found a way to accept their past and create a better future for themselves.

Anybody who has gone to C or anybody else for healing has the option to go anywhere they want, but they chose who they chose. Perhaps they should take a look inwards and really feel what it is they need from another person. It is an incredibly terrible fate they have suffered, and they do need support from people who could better understand their trauma.

All healers have their specialties. Honestly, why people here seem to worship Carol Clarke as the very best psychic is beyond my comprehension, but everybody has the right to choose where they get their advice. I have listened to five different readings done by Carol on five different people, and she has pretty much said the exact same thing. She ALWAYS seems to say that the person has a soul either from the Pleiades, Sirius, and Orion. Is it a coincidence that these are the only three galaxy names that people seem to know, especially in the New Age scene? She also seems to ALWAYS say that the person had a very important past life as some kind of high priest in Ancient Egypt or something similar (I'm not joking).

Does this mean that I think it is wrong to pay money to get a Carol reading? Does this mean that she is a nasty person who can't tell if she is being accurate and is deceiving people? NO!!! Even if her readings are not fully accurate, she seems to bring people some sort of happiness. It is up to everybody to decide where to focus their energy. In my opinion, I think Carol's limited knowledge about the cosmos and Earth history interferes with her ability to give an accurate psychic reading on soul history. BUT, after listening to five different readings, I can tell that her soothing voice and her Feminine intuition allows her to heal, and I think she is far better at being able to interpret somebody's present personal life and give advice on how to work around their feelings.

Soooo....take from this what you will. I think C is a wonderful healer who also has her specialties. I understand concerns and I can see why people may be hesitant to get advice from somebody after this incident, but let's not throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater, yes?

Cheers.

[Delight]

Posted by Robin (here)
why people here seem to worship Carol Clarke as the very best psychic is beyond my comprehension, but everybody has the right to choose where they get their advice. I have listened to five different readings done by Carol on five different people, and she has pretty much said the exact same thing. She ALWAYS seems to say that the person has a soul either from the Pleiades, Sirius, and Orion. Is it a coincidence that these are the only three galaxy names that people seem to know, especially in the New Age scene? She also seems to ALWAYS say that the person had a very important past life as some kind of high priest in Ancient Egypt or something similar (I'm not joking).

Funny but I had a reading from her that said NONE of the above. Noplace of origin, no personage in a past life, nothing there to say "new age". What she did say was relevant to me concerning a man who wished to speak to me. From what was said, I knew it was my husband as it was so detailed and specific.

I am not interested in past lives, off planet origin. She also affirmed that what I am interested in...manifestation technology..... is what I am interested in....hehe. Most people report positive results and validations. So, tell me, is it just possible she tells people what they "want" to hear because she is psychic?? Telempathy seems like the ability to know others insides. She is IMO telempathic.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Robin (here)
She ALWAYS seems to say that the person has a soul either from the Pleiades, Sirius, and Orion.

I had a reading with Carol Clarke, January, 2013. And nope, I’m not part of your ALWAYS seems to say. According to Ms. Clarke, I’m not from Pleiades, Sirius or Orion. What she did share matched what another unrelated person told me.

She also seems to ALWAYS say that the person had a very important past life as some kind of high priest in Ancient Egypt or something similar (I'm not joking).

Nope, again. Not a high priest and no Ancient Egypt connections.

Ha! Come to think of it, the only person I shared my reading with was Christine. Strange that that comes up.

A couple of points I noted on Carole Clark’s thread:

• Some of what Carole said is what I've wanted to do. It's not something she could have known.
  
• Sometimes, it's hard to see in ourselves the potential like someone that is not attached to an outcome. Carol's gift helps a lot of people to expand beyond the little selves.

Cheers back,
RunningDeer

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

In my personal feelings, such statements may turn out to be somewhat irresponsible (please don't take this personally, I have deep appreciation for Bill and the team), again, done with the immense desire to help, understand, assist and go to the bottom of the phenomenon, and with sincere wish to protect these people... But at certain times, the results were not so much in alignment with this aim (though much did indeed serve this purpose), but therein lays the problem in making such declaration

Many blessings ~

Limor

I'll respond to this publicly... and even if I misread what Limor is referring to (but I don't think I am!), there's no harm in making a public statement in clarity.

There were, over time, two different private Milabs groups on the Avalon forum, non-public and non-searchable on Google or anywhere else. They had maybe a dozen members each, including myself (because I have one or two unusual stories to tell, too).

From one of those, former Avalon member Lysaur (now unsubscribed), had copied three very sensitive posts of mine, and posted them elsewhere in the net. He was evidently just targeting me, and no-one else was compromised. He was a member of one of those groups, and not the other. But as a precaution, we closed both groups for a fair period of time before re-opening them.

All we can do is be as vigilant as possible. It was Rachel (kudos! ) who spotted the smoking gun fingerprint that enabled the mole to be identified with certainty. Our vigilance extended to Lysaur having been recommended to us by a well-known and highly experienced Milabs researcher, not on the forum, whom everyone respected. It seemed safe... but in that instance, it was not. Everyone acted in good faith.

It's the 'good faith' bit that's really important here.

[AriG]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

There were, over time, two different private Milabs groups on the Avalon forum, non-public and non-searchable on Google or anywhere else. They had maybe a dozen members each, including myself (because I have one or two unusual stories to tell, too).

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So there are two Avalons? Maybe more? Secret societies within the greater society? Seems a little counter-intuitive to the mission, imho. Seems a little... dare I say it.. elitist and hierarchical. How does this differ from the Archons that permeate greater society at large?

[Hervé]

Posted by AriG (here)
[...]
.. elitist and hierarchical. How does this differ from the Archons that permeate greater society at large?

About as elitist as geeks meeting to talk shop, away from non-geeks.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by AriG (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

There were, over time, two different private Milabs groups on the Avalon forum, non-public and non-searchable on Google or anywhere else. They had maybe a dozen members each, including myself (because I have one or two unusual stories to tell, too).

So there are two Avalons? Maybe more? Secret societies within the greater society? Seems a little counter-intuitive to the mission, imho. Seems a little... dare I say it.. elitist and hierarchical. How does this differ from the Archons that permeate greater society at large?

No... just some discussions that are very personally sensitive, and which rightly shouldn't be visible to/ searchable by just anyone... or else no-one would say a word. It wouldn't feel safe enough.

There are one or two places where these groups hang out. Here (below) is one area. Some of these groups are by invitation only... do take a look. Many members might not know they're even there at all.

[AriG]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by AriG (here)
[...]
.. elitist and hierarchical. How does this differ from the Archons that permeate greater society at large?

About as elitist as geeks meeting to talk shop, away from non-geeks.

I think the subject matter is a bit more deep than discussing the latest gadget. This is a subject of interest to many here and the majority have been left out of the conversation. That is not whistleblowing. That is secrecy and suppression. This is what the "rulers of the world" do to protect the little people from their perceived inability to handle the truth. This makes me very sad and I expected more from Avalon. Now had these "secret groups" existence been made public, but perhaps not the content until vetted, etc., that would be understandable. I really do not know what else to say except that I am deeply disappointed.

edit to add: Sorry to intervene. See ya'll later...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by AriG (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by AriG (here)
[...]
.. elitist and hierarchical. How does this differ from the Archons that permeate greater society at large?

About as elitist as geeks meeting to talk shop, away from non-geeks.

I think the subject matter is a bit more deep than discussing the latest gadget. This is a subject of interest to many here and the majority have been left out of the conversation. That is not whistleblowing. That is secrecy and suppression. This is what the "rulers of the world" do to protect the little people from their perceived inability to handle the truth. This makes me very sad and I expected more from Avalon. Now had these "secret groups" existence been made public, but perhaps not the content until vetted, etc., that would be understandable. I really do not know what else to say except that I am deeply disappointed.

edit to add: Sorry to intervene. See ya'll later...

Ari, you may have (understandably) misunderstood what the context is here.

If I invite you to my house to chat personally about (e.g.) a weird, disturbing dream you had last night, and what it might possibly mean, and whether or not it was an abduction experience (say) — you'd not want me to be recording it all to post on YouTube. You'd want it to be very private.

That's not elitism, or 'secrecy and suppression'... that's personal privacy, safety, and confidentiality, and most people are very glad that can be there sometimes if it ever feels like it's needed.

(Personal messages work that way, too! No-one can read anything you write to a friend here, and that's exactly as it should be.)

Does that help explain it a little better?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by cccme (here)
This tread should as all threads run it's course. Several suggestions were made to close this thread, why?

I was one (of four?) that wanted the thread closed. After a bit of introspection, I noted I’m not comfortable with everyone at odds. It’s my own personal s***. Add to that, married and divorced twice, I understand the aftermath drama. I prefer to keep out of it.

Generally speaking the reason why I’m on the thread is because I’m in support of healing for Mylabs from qualified sources.

Kudos back,
RunningDeer

[Omni]

Posted by Rachel (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I've always respected those who attempt to do it, and with the right sponsorship someone may be able to actually remote heal someone with technology(I trust technology can heal cancer for example, but not some new age healer's mind from across the world). But when I think to myself "What would the cabal not want us to do" sitting there imagining healing people with your mind remotely might not quite be it...

I appreciate the sentiment of respect but would appreciate it more if you were to respect the fact that my belief in remote healing is not based on some "new age" belief, it is based on real world personal experience.

A few years ago, I healed a dying woman who had just been hit by a car. She had lost consciousness, stopped breathing, and her heart rate was faint and slow. I know I healed the woman because aside from the clear understanding of what was happening during the healing, I felt the energy flow from my crown, down my body, exit out my hips and then entered the dying woman. The energy flow was so powerful that my body swayed forward as it began to flow. Her eyes opened the moment the energy stopped flowing from my body. She was dying right there in front of me and I saved her life without laying a finger on her or using any technology whatsoever.

This is my personal experience, so it's only natural for you to doubt my account of the event, but please at least consider the fact that my beliefs have not been adopted from the philosophy of others, new age or otherwise. No, she was not on the other side of the world but surely you can see the validity of my belief (at least to me) and interest in remote healing. And Omni, remote healing is not done by "imagining healing people with your mind".

* * *

I have a diploma in social science, majoring in counselling. Even though I left uni in my final year and did not get my full bachelor, I could still professionally counsel people if I so desired. I have no desire to and the reason is because it is no longer my passion, and anyone who is seeking help from a professional deserves a therapist who is fully committed, among other qualities. I am not that person. I stand with the rest of the mod team in this action, not because of any personal hard feelings towards Christine or Karelia, but because in light of complaints and concerns from good people, beyond Avalon's walls, it is our responsibility to respond appropriately, to the best of our ability. This is what it is about, responsibility, just like it's my responsibility not to do the job I no longer feel I would do well.

Well if it was a mind control operation, there would probably be convincing healings of people based on technological illusion to get people to buy the cover(just like other stuff i have had experience in). I know nobody really wants to hear what technological illusions are up to, because nobody wants to hear they could be vulnerable to technological illusions... But they would be one of Avalon's top concerns if people had any connection to the reality of it(not saying reiki is tech illusion for sure, but other stuff is for sure). These technologies are highly abundant and fooling most conspiracy people who identify with new age concepts I'd say.

And yes Remote Healing is a facet of the new age IMO. Not everything in the new age is new, nor is everything false.

Like I said, maybe remote healing does work. But I've never experienced any real healing with remote healing that wasn't technology. I've never experienced someone able to heal me remotely. Like for example I am sick right now, how would the mechanics of the universe allow that sickness to be healed by someone's mind? I just don't buy it when looking at the mechanics needed for this to be real. That doesn't always mean it isn't real, but can be an indicator IMHO.