Here and Now...What's Happening?

[transiten]

Hi Dan! Nora used to post his forecasts, how is Nora? Kaypacha has his own website, go google!

[ulli]

Posted by dan33 (here)
Who is this guy. Amazing. Astrid was a "fan" of him.

Yes, Astrid became interested in astrology and found him, and then posted him every week. Then Nora took over. We all here like him.
What's there not to like?
So then I found out via his FB page that he lives in San Pedro, the same suburb where I used to live, in San José.
That was a surprise. So I emailed him, and he answered.
We will meet one day, no doubt about it.

[Carmody]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t3prjx6wPDg

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 1inMany (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

Here and Now...

Hmmm. Can't do it.

Maybe later.........

I totally get it. Gut and feelings are our friends. With you in spirit.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by transiten (here)
Hi Dan!Nora used to post his forecasts, how is Nora? Kaypacha has his own website, go google!

NewParadigmAstrology.com

[dan33]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t3prjx6wPDg

Carmody? . He is our last chance. He speaks for the soul, not for the papers. Remember that. Imagine all the people.... that are imagined.

[meeradas]

20 minutes ago, from our balcony



some more here

[transiten]

Posted by transiten (here)
Absolutely! And in sync with Fulford I went to David Wilcocks blog and the server was unable to find it! I tried different options but no...Will try again, there was an interesting read with a list of 170 something bank employees having dropped dead after reporting anomalies to the high ups...

Nope the sites are still down, must have been some sensitive info there...

By "in sync with Fulford" I meant that it seems like most pple on Avalon don't think much of David as to not even check his recent info. I don't "take sides" and think that pple operating in this field must be more subject to disinformation, deceit and attacks - at least the level and sevreity of it - due to the collective component- than most of the members on Avalon.

Now it seems that Bill and Avalon as a community have been robbed by a member that also was involved or at least made an interview with "The Ruiner" another "disinformant" on Avalon. Does that mean that information coming from Bill is no longer interesting or reliable? Maybe it's the wrong thread to post in but this is also "The Village" a family of sorts and a place where one should feel safe to air "sensitive" issues without fear of being ostracized

I actually constantly have a feeling of "unease" being on this forum because of what i percieve as the "Elephant in the room-we don't talk about this in our family" tendency.

Anyway David Wilcocks blog is back if anyone would like to see if there's anything valuable there in spite of the "Instant ascension" and "Corey ghost". I went to facebook where he announced it was down because of security manageing.

Really looking forward to that New Moon on Friday dec 11. Could need some New Vision and Hope and a 3:rd Factor stepping in to integrate the opposites

[ulli]

Posted by transiten (here)

Posted by transiten (here)
Absolutely! And in sync with Fulford I went to David Wilcocks blog and the server was unable to find it! I tried different options but no...Will try again, there was an interesting read with a list of 170 something bank employees having dropped dead after reporting anomalies to the high ups...

Nope the sites are still down, must have been some sensitive info there...

By "in sync with Fulford" I meant that it seems like most pple on Avalon don't think much of David as to not even check his recent info. I don't "take sides" and think that pple operating in this field must be more subject to disinformation, deceit and attacks - at least the level and sevreity of it - due to the collective component- than most of the members on Avalon.

Now it seems that Bill and Avalon as a community have been robbed by a member that also was involved with another "disinformant" on Avalon. Does that mean that information coming from Bill is no longer interesting or reliable? Maybe it's the wrong thread to post in but this is also "The Village" a family of sorts and a place where one should feel safe to air "sensitive" issues without fear of being ostracized

I actually constantly have a feeling of "unease" being on this forum because of what i percieve as the "Elephant in the room-we don't talk about this in our family" tendency.

Anyway David Wilcocks blog is back if anyone would like to see if there's anything valuable there in spite of the "Instant ascension" and "Corey ghost". I went to facebook where he announced it was down because of security manageing.

Really looking forward to that New Moon on Friday dec 11. Could need some New Vision and Hope and a 3:rd Factor stepping in to integrate the opposites

You brought up a good point here, transiten.
Personally, I have nothing against people bringing up delicate issues in the Village living room.
Even if they are no longer ok for discussion outside in the rest of the forum.
That is because I know that us Villagers are pretty cool headed people.
Also, most of us are hermits, used to operating alone, and don't form intense codependent relationships.

What I believe Bill has experienced in person is the triggering of preprogrammed people, and how such people can then infect the rest of the forum. So he and his team are believers in quarantine measures.

I myself have over the years of investigating Internet sites become at times infected by false info.
And in my ignorance of the consequences shared those false ideas with family members.
I can't tell you how much I now regret doing that.

An example, what type of explosives were used to bring down the WTC towers? There was so much disinformation planted there, that the final answer is still pending. One theory after the other was debunked.
I lost all credibility in the eyes of my son. This is the outcome of such debates, when false stuff is being spouted.

Corey lost credibility here in a similar way. He may well have been fed such a lethal mix of truth and falsehood that he really became a human weapon. And we all know that DW is not too concerned with absolute truth, but with statistics of his fame expansion.
The second argument I have with the Corey case ...his reaction to being questioned by Bill. I read his and his wife's stuff after that and must say they both were incredibly outraged, and went all over the Internet bitching against Avalon. Massive over-reaction.
Although later on, when Avalon discovered that the Ruiner was not for real either, he (Ruiner) managed to keep going a bit longer, simply _because_ he was so calm and polite.
Yet it was all lies, stuff he had been reading and presented as real, then admitted none was real, then presented it again as real- typical of someone who wants to confuse the masses, and thinks it's all a big joke.
Is this right, in view of the seriousness of what is happening on our planet?

And all those lies are out there now, being lapped up by young awakening souls who are now coming under fire by their spouses and family members, and as a result untold disunity is growing all over the world.

So I see it as a good sign that the Avalon management are being more careful in their attempts of containing the disinformation virus. And since it has already spread so far that even our best members are showing signs of losing their reasoning power, of surprise attacks against Bill and the mods, of incredible anger tantrums, we are really in an emergency situation.
Don't you agree?

[transiten]

Absolutely ulli! And i've become more and more cautious about what I present as TRUTH for the few I talk to about what I've come across in the "Conspiration theories". At the moment I stick to the Big Banks Fraud and noone questions that. I use to add that I would be more than happy if someone could prove me wrong, i really don't want to have any such strong emotional or intellectual attachment to what I have learned since 2006 as I first found project Camelot as not to be able to continue to live if it was all debunked...Still got my Synchronicities and Cosmic Mirror Astrology to look into, yhry never let me down

[Baby Steps]

Just enjoying a rye cracker, with non dairy coconut based cheese (because I am worried about IGF-1 & bovine estrogen in my prostate). After this I will have a slice of Camembert because I need the K2.

Contemplating blackmail.
Have you ever had weird approaches or opportunities(hopefully declined) to get involved in immoral & illegal behaviour?
I am thinking our Security Services are mainly concerned with entrapping as many people as possible, and a pre-requisite for Political High Office is that 'They have got something on you'

I googled this bizarre congressman- lindsey graham, with the word 'blackmail' and found some very disturbing things.

[araucaria]

An interesting and timely discussion, ulli and transiten. If you have a “moment” (ha ha), I’ve just posted my latest submission on just how big the lie really is. I am using “moment” in the timeless, mechanical sense of leverage. It may involve quite a long moment in time, but as the degree of leverage depends on the length of your lever, that should be no problem.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1027465

[RunningDeer]

I went out to get the mail and look what I found at the bottom of my stairs. It’s Michael’s rebirth day in a couple of days. For newbies, the shortened version is the night before his burial, he assured me things would be okay and to remember “This was the plan, Mom. Remember the plan.”

At that time, my bedroom was filled with boxes of books and I couldn’t say why I tore through them. Until one book said ‘pick me, pick me’. It was “Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah," by Richard Bach. Every page I opened to, Michael spoke to me. I’d ask a question and the perfect answer came through a sentence on a page.

Then I was directed two floors down to my office. I pulled open my computer shelf and there smack in the middle was a feather. I had been collecting them for a couple of months and didn’t know why. On the cover of the book there was a feather. It was an important turning point in the story of a teacher that had died but floated a feather onto his grieving student.

Michael continues to send me feather messages on important dates. He sent a lot the first year after his passing. More often than not, he/others send feathers when I ask for confirmations to important pondering.

It’s timely in another way. I’ve allowed myself to get pulled away from things that are important in order for me to see from the greater perspective; which is one part of my contribution to the whole.

Life is golden,
RunningDeer ♡

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ulli (here)
So I see it as a good sign that the Avalon management are being more careful in their attempts of containing the disinformation virus. And since it has already spread so far that even our best members are showing signs of losing their reasoning power, of surprise attacks against Bill and the mods, of incredible anger tantrums, we are really in an emergency situation.
Don't you agree?

I don't actually sense that much of an emergency.

The granite in this mountain has cracks and crevices, as do all mountains, reflective of the general way of mountains. There are deeply felt and thought differences in the ways in which this world and our lives and communities, our hearts and minds, work, from the fundamental physics on up. There is also a widely varying range of shocks, stresses and traumas that have been imposed on different parts of the mountain, over vast time.

The bastards in power wiggle and chisel on these differences and now and again open up a crack wide enough to cause another rock slide or avalanche. The mountain stands, tall as ever, growing taller actually, thanks to a deep underground swelling.

With each such crevasse, we each individually choose which side, or the underlying bedrock, or far to the other side of the mountain, or over on some other mountain after a little trek, to be on. That is our choice. So be it.

Would that the rocks in the current slide spent less energy trying to amplify the rock slide, however. That can get rather annoying. Please choose your place to be for now and be on with it. It seems that the divisive energy of the bastards in power feeds through us at times. Wittingly or not, there is usually no way to discern, and that difference matters little anyway.

[Calz]

Posted by Baby Steps (here)

[ulli]

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Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
So I see it as a good sign that the Avalon management are being more careful in their attempts of containing the disinformation virus. And since it has already spread so far that even our best members are showing signs of losing their reasoning power, of surprise attacks against Bill and the mods, of incredible anger tantrums, we are really in an emergency situation.
Don't you agree?

I don't actually sense that much of an emergency.

The granite in this mountain has cracks and crevices, as do all mountains, reflective of the general way of mountains. There are deeply felt and thought differences in the ways in which this world and our lives and communities, our hearts and minds, work, from the fundamental physics on up. There is also a widely varying range of shocks, stresses and traumas that have been imposed on different parts of the mountain, over vast time.

The bastards in power wiggle and chisel on these differences and now and again open up a crack wide enough to cause another rock slide or avalanche. The mountain stands, tall as ever, growing taller actually, thanks to a deep underground swelling.

With each such crevasse, we each individually choose which side, or the underlying bedrock, or far to the other side of the mountain, or over on some other mountain after a little trek, to be on. That is our choice. So be it.

Would that the rocks in the current slide spent less energy trying to amplify the rock slide, however. That can get rather annoying. Please choose your place to be for now and be on with it. It seems that the divisive energy of the bastards in power feeds through us at times. Wittingly or not, there is usually no way to discern, and that difference matters little anyway.

The emergency I'm seeing needs some explaining then.
It has to do with my fear of WW 3 going ahead, and my illusion that perhaps we here could prevent it if we all pull together.
It has to do with my own childhood trauma, of having been raised by a mother who survived a PoW camp, barely.
But those events unfolding are really too huge for anyone to be able to do anything about.
Or are they? Head scratch....

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ulli (here)
The emergency I'm seeing needs some explaining then.

Ah - yes - we are at the place in the cycle of human affairs where it seems major wars are looming near on the horizon. I think you're right to think we can tilt the odds a bit more in our favor, if we will.

[transiten]

Posted by transiten (here)
Absolutely ulli! And i've become more and more cautious about what I present as TRUTH for the few I talk to about what I've come across in the "Conspiration theories". At the moment I stick to the Big Banks Fraud and noone questions that. I use to add that I would be more than happy if someone could prove me wrong, i really don't want to have any such strong emotional or intellectual attachment to what I have learned since 2006 as I first found project Camelot as not to be able to continue to live if it was all debunked...Still got my Synchronicities and Cosmic Mirror Astrology to look into, yhry never let me down

Well well, as I went to the bank to get some help, the thought hit me I forgot to mention the extremely accurate readings I've had from several mediums...and voilà! I find a 1 year old magazine, open it and there is a long article about one of the most wellknown mediums in Sweden!

Not only that, he also tells a funny story about when he himself went to the bank and was asked about his profession. He has worked as a hair dresser and used to only mention that but now he had decided to "come out of the closet" so he also added "medium" and jokingly told the employee he could take down her grandmother for her which offer she politely declined

[transiten]

Posted by araucaria (here)
An interesting and timely discussion, ulli and transiten. If you have a “moment” (ha ha), I’ve just posted my latest submission on just how big the lie really is. I am using “moment” in the timeless, mechanical sense of leverage. It may involve quite a long moment in time, but as the degree of leverage depends on the length of your lever, that should be no problem.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1027465

Wow! That was a piece of masterwork! One thing I didn't know was that the Liberation Theologists were Jesuits. I was actually somewhat involved as I was singing Latin American liberation songs when all the Chileans came here and we cooperated with a priest who was rather radical hiding fugtifs in the church even cooking there.

Also didn't know that about Perez de Cuellar, a son of his has two sons with a Peruvian friend of mine.

What i didn't get is if you mean the Moon landing was fake? What I've heard is that they took some photos in Steven Spielbergs studio if the Moon landing should fail and they also used some of these pictures for the media.

[Mike]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by transiten (here)

Posted by transiten (here)
Absolutely! And in sync with Fulford I went to David Wilcocks blog and the server was unable to find it! I tried different options but no...Will try again, there was an interesting read with a list of 170 something bank employees having dropped dead after reporting anomalies to the high ups...

Nope the sites are still down, must have been some sensitive info there...

By "in sync with Fulford" I meant that it seems like most pple on Avalon don't think much of David as to not even check his recent info. I don't "take sides" and think that pple operating in this field must be more subject to disinformation, deceit and attacks - at least the level and sevreity of it - due to the collective component- than most of the members on Avalon.

Now it seems that Bill and Avalon as a community have been robbed by a member that also was involved with another "disinformant" on Avalon. Does that mean that information coming from Bill is no longer interesting or reliable? Maybe it's the wrong thread to post in but this is also "The Village" a family of sorts and a place where one should feel safe to air "sensitive" issues without fear of being ostracized

I actually constantly have a feeling of "unease" being on this forum because of what i percieve as the "Elephant in the room-we don't talk about this in our family" tendency.

Anyway David Wilcocks blog is back if anyone would like to see if there's anything valuable there in spite of the "Instant ascension" and "Corey ghost". I went to facebook where he announced it was down because of security manageing.

Really looking forward to that New Moon on Friday dec 11. Could need some New Vision and Hope and a 3:rd Factor stepping in to integrate the opposites

You brought up a good point here, transiten.
Personally, I have nothing against people bringing up delicate issues in the Village living room.
Even if they are no longer ok for discussion outside in the rest of the forum.
That is because I know that us Villagers are pretty cool headed people.
Also, most of us are hermits, used to operating alone, and don't form intense codependent relationships.

What I believe Bill has experienced in person is the triggering of preprogrammed people, and how such people can then infect the rest of the forum. So he and his team are believers in quarantine measures.

I myself have over the years of investigating Internet sites become at times infected by false info.
And in my ignorance of the consequences shared those false ideas with family members.
I can't tell you how much I now regret doing that.

An example, what type of explosives were used to bring down the WTC towers? There was so much disinformation planted there, that the final answer is still pending. One theory after the other was debunked.
I lost all credibility in the eyes of my son. This is the outcome of such debates, when false stuff is being spouted.

Corey lost credibility here in a similar way. He may well have been fed such a lethal mix of truth and falsehood that he really became a human weapon. And we all know that DW is not too concerned with absolute truth, but with statistics of his fame expansion.
The second argument I have with the Corey case ...his reaction to being questioned by Bill. I read his and his wife's stuff after that and must say they both were incredibly outraged, and went all over the Internet bitching against Avalon. Massive over-reaction.
Although later on, when Avalon discovered that the Ruiner was not for real either, he (Ruiner) managed to keep going a bit longer, simply _because_ he was so calm and polite.
Yet it was all lies, stuff he had been reading and presented as real, then admitted none was real, then presented it again as real- typical of someone who wants to confuse the masses, and thinks it's all a big joke.
Is this right, in view of the seriousness of what is happening on our planet?

And all those lies are out there now, being lapped up by young awakening souls who are now coming under fire by their spouses and family members, and as a result untold disunity is growing all over the world.

So I see it as a good sign that the Avalon management are being more careful in their attempts of containing the disinformation virus. And since it has already spread so far that even our best members are showing signs of losing their reasoning power, of surprise attacks against Bill and the mods, of incredible anger tantrums, we are really in an emergency situation.
Don't you agree?

Some solid wisdom here...

ive got a delicate topic(s) to broach. It has to do with externalizing (a word I got from you Ulli..so thanks!). And it has to do with delusion. And also, as Transiten says "the elephant in the room". And then it has to do with Gripreaper...and finally it has to do with all of us as a group.

I'm not sure how literally to take your term 'disinformation virus', but to me it suggests a deliberate and malevolent movement by an outside force to confuse and antagonize us..or anyone seeking the truth. Perhaps this type of thing exists. Perhaps it doesnt. I often wonder about the damage we might be doing by externalizing these issues...and the issue we have now, which you referred to above, is this thing with Bill and Christine of course, and also how certain members are reacting, namely, Gripreaper.

It seems to me, that whenever there is some drama on the forum, we usually find a way to blame some outside force or forces. Its black ops, archons, star positions and so forth. I'm not disregarding these things entirely, theres validity there on occasion...but it's as if, at times, we all go suddenly blind to the simple, true explanation staring us right in the face...

Take Gripreaper for example. Clearly a very smart man. A funny man. A warm man. But, and i'll say this as delicately as possible, not the most stable of fellows emotionally. You might even say delusional. Not too long ago, on this very thread, he was declaring himself the go between, between humanity and the lost city of Atlantis..he knew where the lost crystals were, and he'd bring them forth when commissioned by the dead spirits of atlantis etc etc (I'm paraphrasing). Anyway, total nonsense. It was disappointing, but the bigger disappoinment was this: NO ONE SAID A WORD ABOUT IT. Not only that, but some people actually "thanked" it. I sat back and hoped someone would say something, anything, to restore my waning faith in humaity...but no, it didnt happen. I considered writing a post myself, but coming from me it would hardly matter, it would just be another case of the doubting thomas "not getting it" or something. And even more than that, I like Grip and I didnt want to hurt his feelings. And i'll bet a few others felt the same, which makes me wonder:

How much damage are we doing to ourselves and the forum at large when we let respected members carry on with their fiction without calling them out on it? This whole Grip thing doesnt surprise me at all. I wasnt caught off guard, and I don't consider it a surprise attack....because ive been reading his posts for years and something is just a little off there...

But it's hard to say that to people we like...the plain truth. In this example I gave, I couldnt bring myself to do it. So we go on blaming archons or A.I. or whatever. It's easier in the short term and doesnt hurt anyones feelings...but in the long run, enabling and even encouraging these fictions acts as a cancer, the beginning of a tumor or something, and gets us in the long run...tenfold!

to me, these obvious fictions are the "elephant in the room", the cancers that could kill the forum. Delusions can be fun and serve short term purpose, but are deadly in the long run. If we decide to tolerate them, we have no outside source to blame for the consequences. If we continue to blame fiction for the fiction we ourselves create or tolerate, then there is no hope at all. What we're seeing on the forum now is simply a symptom of that, in my opinion.