Tatooine's twin suns - coming to a planet near you just as soon as Betelgeuse explode

[irishspirit]

• Betelgeuse losing mass
• Explosion will create "new sun"
• May be set for 2012 appearance

IT'S the ultimate experience for Star Wars fans - staring forlornly off into the distance as twin suns sink into the horizon.

Yet it's not just a figment of George Lucas's imagination - twin suns are real. And here's the big news - they could be coming to Earth.
Yes, any day now we see a second sun light up the sky, if only for a matter of weeks.


The infamous red super-giant star in Orion’s nebula - Betelgeuse - is predicted to go gangbusters and the impending super-nova may reach Earth before 2012, and when it does, all of our wildest Star Wars dreams will come true.
The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.


When that happens, we'll get our second sun, according to Dr Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland.


http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...rom=public_rss

[rosie]

Thanks irishspirit! Very interesting times indeed!

Very interesting reading further down the page:

“When a star goes bang, the first we will observe of it is a rain of tiny particles called nuetrinos,” says Dr Carter.

“They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever.”

Stars such as the supernova produce elements that are critical to life on Earth.

Quite literally, the whole of Earth and our solar system is made of star stuff, including most of the heavy elements of the Periodic Table.

“It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium….a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi,” Dr carter said.

[jeannacav]

According to the Andromedans, we already have a second sun.
It is directly behind the one we see and it stays in its orbit always out of our sight.
They also say that it can be seen from the other planets in our solar system.
Also, it is in that position by design.
They say they or someone with this technology moved our planet to our present place to avoid the double radiation.
This was following an ancient nuclear war that hurt our genes badly.

There is a lot more they say about this, which is found in his 1996 lecture at the american gnostic school.
the page with video link and link to transcript

Here is the exact quote:

"
Q: Where is the second sun?

A: It is behind the sun that we see. It is smaller than the sun we see and lies behind it. If you are standing on Mars, you see it, ok? Now, the reason our planet was moved is because the planet could not handle the radiation from two suns after the last war.



So, they moved it. When I asked Morenae who moved the earth, his response was that it was something the Pleaidians had to answer. So, I don't know if there is an agreement for them to bring this information out, or if they were responsible for it. I don't know. But, apparently the evidence of the presence of the second sun is coming out. "

thank you,

jeanna

[Humble Janitor]

Wow. Is this for real?

Amazing! I'm just excited by the idea of night becoming day for a few weeks.

[Teakai]

The article also said:
"The bad news is, it could also happen in a million years. But who's counting?"

I suggest we don't hold our breath waiting.

[irishspirit]

• Betelgeuse losing mass
• Explosion will create "new sun"
• May be set for 2012 appearance

IT'S the ultimate experience for Star Wars fans - staring forlornly off into the distance as twin suns sink into the horizon.



Yet it's not just a figment of George Lucas's imagination - twin suns are real. And here's the big news - they could be coming to Earth.
Yes, any day now we see a second sun light up the sky, if only for a matter of weeks.


The infamous red super-giant star in Orion’s nebula - Betelgeuse - is predicted to go gangbusters and the impending super-nova may reach Earth before 2012, and when it does, all of our wildest Star Wars dreams will come true.


The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.


http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...#ixzz1BSLwrxGz

[irishspirit]

Addendum: NEWS.com.au would like to apologise for their error - as we all know, Betelgeuse is the second biggest star in the Orion constellation, not the universe.

Shane, thanks for the heads up.

[Seikou-Kishi]

An attempt to explain away the brown dwarf?

[Icecold]

according to Dr Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland.


“This old star is running out of fuel in its centre”, Dr Carter said.
“This fuel keeps Betelgeuse shining and supported. When this fuel runs out the star will literally collapse in upon itself and it will do so very quickly.”
When this happens a giant explosion will occur, tens of millions of times brighter than the sun.
The bad news is, it could also happen in a million years. But who's counting?

The bad news? I'd say that would be good news. So give or take a million years???

[Gone001]

Man every night I've been looking up at Orion and the center star specifically. I kept thinking it looked like it was moving a little but I thought I just wasn't focusing on it correctly, could still be the case but makes you wonder!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by irishspirit (here)
The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.

The Addendum to this article corrects the above claim.

Addendum: NEWS.com.au would like to apologise for their error - as we all know, Betelgeuse is the second biggest star in the Orion constellation, not the universe.

[Ross]

Another, more accurate side to this story:

The super-giant red star Betelgeuse in Orion’s nebula is predicted to cataclysmically explode, and the impending supernova may even reach Earth -- someday.

But will it happen by 2012, as recent news reports suggest? Probably not, experts told FoxNews.com. While the second biggest star in the Orion Constellation (corrected from the second biggest star in Universe) is strangely losing mass -- and has already become a red giant, meaning it is destined to explode and become a supernova -- there's no reason to believe that it will happen anytime soon.

The story is pretty 'Hollywoody,'" said New Jersey Institute of Technology professor Philip R. Goode. In reality, the stars eventual explosion is inevitable, but no one knows when it will happen, he explained -- 2012 is pure conjecture.

A supernova has to be no farther than about 25 light years away to be able to fry us with light or anything else, and Betelgeuse is 25 times that distance,

The story was fueled by Australian news site News.com.au -- also owned by FoxNews.com parent company News Corp. -- which predicted that a giant explosion will occur, tens of millions of times brighter than the sun, and suggested the event was imminent. And the gist of the story is accurate: Betelgeuse will blow, in an explosion that will be visible from Earth, though it won't be so bright as to appear like a "second sun."

Betelgeuse is several hundred light years away, so if it were to light up the sky in 2012 it would have exploded in the Middle Ages

It’s hard to know just when a star will explode when you’re on the outside. Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years. We’re just not sure," Plait explained.

Goode agreed. "If you want to bet on it, it's better to try the lottery," he said.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...cientists-say/

[Operator]

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
An attempt to explain away the brown dwarf?

This was my first thought also ... the process of going super nova is very inaccurate and could take a very long time still.
The article seems to be convinced it will be soon ... that sounds fishy to me.

[Ross]

Some more info:

The location of Betelgeuse near the famous "Belt of Orion".



Sirius (Panel 4) is the brightest star in the night sky, but is tiny compared to Betelgeuse (Panel 5). Both Sirius and Betelgeuse traverse the sky the same time of year.



Distants:

Betelgeuse is currently thought to be around 640 light years away (3762320238837508.5 Miles)

Size:

Betelgeuse is 1,180 times the radius of the Sun.

A sphere so huge that it could contain over 2 quadrillion Earths (2.15 × 1015) or more than 1.6 billion (1.65 × 109) Suns. That is the equivalent of Betelgeuse being a giant football coliseum like Wembley Stadium in London with the Earth a tiny pearl, 1 millimetre in diameter, orbiting a Sun the size of a mango.

It is on average the ninth brightest star in the celestial sphere-more info on that with link provided.

This was written several years back:

Astronomers believe Betelgeuse is only 10 million years old, but has evolved rapidly because of its high mass. It is thought to be a runaway star from the Orion OB1 Association, which also includes the late type O and B stars in Orion's belt—Alnitak, Alnilam and Mintaka. Currently in a late stage of stellar evolution, Betelgeuse is expected to explode as a type II supernova, possibly within the next million years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

Ross.

[Operator]

Posted by Ross (here)
Betelgeuse is expected to explode as a type II supernova, possibly within the next million years.

This is what I had in the back of my mind ... so how come they all of a sudden are some kind of convinced it will be next year ?
Unless it happened already about 640 years ago and they have other ways (travel faster than the speed of light) to know in advance.

Thanks Ross for this insightful info ...

[Ross]

It has been observed that it is strangely losing mass--but this seems to be the norm with a red Giant such as Betelgeuse.


Ross

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I read this over at disinfo.com, they're saying this claim has been debunked.

[Ross]

Posted by dddanieljjjamesss (here)
I read this over at disinfo.com, they're saying this claim has been debunked.

Yes, not so hard to come to that conclusion.

[RAKMEiSTER]

. This is Betelgeuse filmed at 1500 X Combined Optical and Digital Zoom

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U9Dykeycoow

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I4EcIeoZOYI

^Betelgeuse^ for ones looking @ vid name xd
the fluxuation is just amazing

and
http://news.discovery.com/space/dont...e-in-2012.html