Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[Guish]

Posted by Enola (here)
I found these very helpful when I had to really face my shadow. I won't say it was fun, exactly, but the force of the negative energy in me was noticeably decreased afterwards.

http://www.spiritualawakeningprocess...ess-phase.html
http://www.spiritualawakeningprocess...ght-phase.html
http://www.spiritualawakeningprocess...orment-of.html


You may notice for those of you on the conscious path that you may be focusing on how to be a "good" person. Awakening does not do this. Instead it removes the illusion that covers up the truth that we are already beings of love, so how can you improve such a perfect and beautiful love? Without illusions in the way, we naturally behave from a deep love, integrity, and harmony with all those around us. Hurting others becomes more and more irrational and insane because we understand that when we hurt another, we hurt ourselves. Truths like this become clearer and clearer as bits of darkness dissolve and more of your inner light is revealed. With the greater light shining on everything, yet more darkness is illuminated. Deep levels of anger, shame, fear, and depressive sadness get illuminated, and a lot of inner turbulence becomes the norm in this particular phase. Each issue gets met in slightly different ways, but it all starts with acceptance and allowing. The awakened space will not tolerate ignorance and blindness, and so many of you may find yourself face down in the mud of your soul for quite some time depending on how much darkness you've carried and what your natural vibration is with which you're aligning."

The mud in the water goes down in the bottom. If one agitates, it makes the water dirty again.

[ZooLife]

Is that you thinking?

[ZooLife]

Thought is a doorway into the infinitesimal.

(Funny, it seems like more )






<3

[Valley]

I thought I caught a glimpse of mind
Far behind, and blinded by it's own designs

I stepped aside and opened wide
To the infinite 'Stream', beyond the 'dusty day' dreams

[greybeard]

Crowded House - Heaven That I'm Making : (This is the words of one of their songs--there seems to be a spiritual theme in quite a few of them--Chris)

Plead with my saint
Wash his hands and feet
Find his complaints
Make this world complete

And this heaven that I'm making
Can't come quickly enough
And the big wave that I'm taking
It feels like I'm just waking up

Mind out, don't think
I can't get used to it

Right on the brink
I end up losing it

And this heaven that I'm making
It can't come quickly enough
And the big wave that I'm taking
It feels like I'm just waking up

And I'll be there
If all of creation is kind
And each conversation I hear
As I'm walking in through the crowd
As if I can float through the air

And this heaven

Well, this heaven that I'm making
It can't come quickly enough
And this big boat that I'm taking
Can't come by quickly enough

If there is hell on Earth
There must be heaven, too
Both in one place
And not a second to lose

[Clear Light]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n87HxTZlc2w

Some of the YouTube blurb :

• The Open Secret communication points to the possibility of there being a radically different perception of reality. It investigates the nature of various spiritual traditions whilst also exposing the myths that surround the mystery to which they aspire.
• It also reveals the way in which seeking for fulfilment can only reinforce the sense of continuously reaching out for something that has never been lost.
• The dynamic of this communication is essentially energetic, and this can nullify the mind's need for ideas and answers and dissipate the contracted sense of the self and its fear of unconditional freedom.

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oh, now the above video may or may not "resonate" with you however I'd agree with Tony when he describes a sort of "falling away" or "dropping away" of a sense of energetic contraction [1] that is the "manifestation" of our apparent sense of separate self (personhood).

He very much seems to be coming from an integrated Heart-Mind connection which I'd suggest is the basis for Unconditional Loving / Living

Disclaimer : I am not endorsing "The Open Secret" in any way other than what this video alludes to !

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[1] Because the sub-conscious has ceased projecting a "me" / "ego" / "I"

[Valley]

That guy seems a bit 'off his rocker' to me.

[greybeard]

Posted by Valley (here)
That guy seems a bit 'off his rocker' to me.

Fortunately not Valley---unfortunate for the illusion of separate self though.
"He" is perhaps more blunt than most non duality teachers but they ultimately say the same thing
ie There is only one Self.

This is web site--worth a look


http://www.theopensecret.com/

love chris

[Valley]

Follow his example if you wish, but when someone is struggling, I see it as not wise or appropriate to have a big grin on one's face. That seems more like what an 'energy vampire' would do.

I went to his site and there is nothing mentioned about his past before becoming a public 'teacher', other than he has been very accurate with shooting a gun/rifle.

Blessings...

[Clear Light]

Posted by Valley (here)
Follow his example if you wish, but when someone is struggling, I see it as not wise or appropriate to have a big grin on one's face. That seems more like what an 'energy vampire' would do.

I went to his site and there is nothing mentioned about his past before becoming a public 'teacher', other than he has been very accurate with shooting a gun/rifle.

Blessings...

Ah, I'd say that's probably because he's being deliberately provocative and is trying to trigger his audience into some sort of a response which bypasses our usual rational-logical-thinking ... sort of like eliciting a call to our sub-conscious in the hopes of "the message" getting through (so-to-speak) ...

[greybeard]

Hi Valley
Most Gurus will meet you where you stand then lead you to discover/uncover Truth.
Eckhart Tolle is good as he helps to make life seem easier but still is leading you to the Truth
One of his classic statements is "There never was anyone there to do anything to you"
We tend to take everything personally to begin with.

Just a question of finding the right teacher that suits you.

Struggle is part of the process.

Parsons went through various teachers then time on Osho's Ashram--eventually he quit the searching and went and played golf and other pursuits--quite a long time later enlightenment just happened.
The Truth is coming out in the teachings but I am not drawn to this style of delivery.

I like Mooji---the love is in the voice.

Chris

[Innocent Warrior]

"We have infinite potential for experience and creativity and learning and growing. We'll be amazed at how much possibility there is for being a human being."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BKrN8vqAAVg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w6rfIKNvqbA

[Valley]

The Universe/everyone is a 'teacher'... though many times it/they are/is teaching how 'not' to be... Which also can help to realize what is 'right'.

[Clear Light]

Posted by Clear Blue Skies (here)

Posted by Valley (here)
Follow his example if you wish, but when someone is struggling, I see it as not wise or appropriate to have a big grin on one's face. That seems more like what an 'energy vampire' would do.

I went to his site and there is nothing mentioned about his past before becoming a public 'teacher', other than he has been very accurate with shooting a gun/rifle.

Blessings...

Ah, I'd say that's probably because he's being deliberately provocative and is trying to trigger his audience into some sort of a response which bypasses our usual rational-logical-thinking ... sort of like eliciting a call to our sub-conscious in the hopes of "the message" getting through (so-to-speak) ...

Oh, just to clarify what I said yesterday : If "Tony" has now realised the non-dual state I would be wrong to say he "is trying to trigger his audience" because in such a state there is no-one whatsoever, even less so someone "trying" to "do" something ... if you see what I mean ?

IMHO it's pretty much impossible to describe non-duality except in terms of an Absence or as a series of Negations precisely because there is no subjective self who "experiences" or "perceives" objects as such a duality has dissolved due to the non-intellectual realisation of so-called "Emptiness" ...

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Ah, I'd just like to mention "Emptiness" is not some sort of Nihilistic Void or Nothingness as that is taking an "Extreme" position which in Buddhist teachings is considered most undesirable.

[greybeard]

The thing is that it has taken me years to get a degree of intellectual understanding of non-duality.
To the good the "process" has accelerated to the degree that many young people are understanding this (non-duality) much more quickly.
Its a massive jump, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, to believe that there is no individual person.

I would sugest anyone struggling with this reads "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle.
He was deeply depressed to the point of contemplating suicide--He thought "I can no longer live with my self"--then the thought came "Who is this self that I can not live with?" Awakening happened spontaneously. He had no previous knowledge or interest in spirituality.

If newcomers to this thread read a few of the early pages they will notice that there is an evolution of understanding in the thread.
The early posts might be of help to some.

With Love
Chris

[betoobig]

I love Mooji too....
I wish you all an enlightened 2016
In- joy
Much love

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The self whishes you all a great year, the year of conciousness

[greybeard]

Posted by betoobig (here)
I love Mooji too....
I wish you all an enlightened 2016
In- joy
Much love



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The self whishes you all a great year, the year of conciousness

I echo these thoughts and good wishes.

Much love to all who contribute and visit here and those who don't.

Chris

[Meggings]

[Valley]

May 2016 bring us All to greater understanding!
Blessing...

[Clear Light]

Ah, I feel like sharing some "Appreciation" for all things "Avalon"