geneticist Eugene McCarthy: Is a human a hybrid species of chimpanzee and pig?

[ketikoti]

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html

The article is written by a scientist that is specialized on hybridization between species, and makes a compelling case that the human organism is very unique in various aspects for a primate, and that we share a lot with pigs. The author is quite convincing in his article that humans indeed are a hybrid species. The puzzling question that itches is then: Who put those genomes together, and when? I can't imagine that some natural occurring processes can be involved here, must have had a laboratorium involved!

[witchy1]

I wonder if anyone else considered that maybe we have bits of other species as well (not too sure about birds tho).

[Another1]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
I wonder if anyone else considered that maybe we have bits of other species as well (not too sure about birds tho).

This thread and your question reminded me of this chart I saw once.

I always wondered where did the tail come from? And where did it go? Why?
In memory, I have an image of one stage where the fetus looks like a tadpole.

[Mike Gorman]

"Ontogeny recapitulates Phylogeny" is a well known maxim of Biology, and refers to the seeming visitation the Human embryo to other species
as it develops-as in the stages illustrated in Another1's post-but it also refers to the linkages of all animals to a seeming line of evolutionary development.
so we enter a fish stage, Salamander, and so-on. Genetics -I suppose it is not surprising that as indigenous creatures to this planet we all share characteristics
of the whole life story?

[Star Tsar]

A great unspoken difference between us and the ape family is we like water they don't (well they like to drink it but they are not fans of swimming)....

Posted by witchy1 (here)
I wonder if anyone else considered that maybe we have bits of other species as well (not too sure about birds tho).

[Earthship]

Excellent article, Keticoti...!
If more members come to this thread in order to give their opinion, I advise them: please, do read the article first (not that the above members didn´t read it, but I usually see opinions in this forum, in which is obvious that the member didn´t take the time to read the suggested link, video or article, and, consequently, the thread derails).

[aranuk]

A very interesting article indeed. The man is doing great work in offering a reasonable theory, one I may say, makes a lot of common sense. I wonder if he would consider the Anunaki being the other side of our hybrid nature? It wasn't clear whether a pig was the mother or the chimpanzee and whether that would be possible? For instance could a chimp sperm cell fertilise a pig cell or tuther way around?
I don't know if he mentioned it as I read about 4 pages which was the main article but there were many links which I never read.

Stan

[ketikoti]

Here is an interesting follow-up on the original article, with discussions:
http://phys.org/news/2013-07-human-h...-evidence.html

The commenter with the name 'Koolakamba' (http://phys.org/profile/user/Koolokamba/) is the original author, McCarthy.

[Violet]

As absurd as his claim sounds to me on first hearing, I remember hearing something similar ("and made some of them apes and swine") a while back.

[araucaria]

I suppose someone will soon be testing the theory by crossing chimps and pigs.

Pigs are well known to be genetically close to man and their organs are considered compatible enough to be envisaged as alternatives to interhuman transplants. About fifteen years ago, I did some work for a research laboratory based somewhere near Nantes, France, where they had an experimental sterile pig farm for investigating this new area of xenotransplantation as it's called involving pigs.

[araucaria]

Posted by ketikoti (here)
Here is an interesting follow-up on the original article, with discussions:
http://phys.org/news/2013-07-human-h...-evidence.html

The commenter with the name 'Koolakamba' (http://phys.org/profile/user/Koolokamba/) is the original author, McCarthy.

Thanks, very interesting, answers some of my questions.

[Violet]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
I wonder if anyone else considered that maybe we have bits of other species as well (not too sure about birds tho).

In Darwin's "On the Origin..." you can read up quite a bit about birds (he was known for his finches) alongside the bigger picture of his evolutionary theory.

[DNA]

Those crazy Annunaki!
They were making all kinds of crazy stuff. The mythological creatures of yesteryear, cyntars, mermaids, griffins, chymeras

Oh and lets not forget about bigfoot. Here is an excerpt from the latest DNA sequencing event by Dr. Ketchum stating that the Bigfoot samples she tested showed that the creature was a hybrid with human mitochondria and only 15,000 years old.

That means that according to Ketchum’s study, Sasquatch’s parents were a human female and some unknown third species, a “novel non-human” male.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/29/...#ixzz2arRnAL00

[ketikoti]

For the sake of completeness:

a link to excellent comment of Carmody on this subject:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1033399

[shanemac]

Very interesting. I have been working with ayahuasca and have learned that the plant spirits will not work with us if we consume pig meat. Plants predate us on this planet so maybe they have the knowledge that we are partaking in a form of cannibalism by eating pig.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by shanemac (here)
Very interesting. I have been working with ayahuasca and have learned that the plant spirits will not work with us if we consume pig meat. Plants predate us on this planet so maybe they have the knowledge that we are partaking in a form of cannibalism by eating pig.

Actually (as opposed to the OP take but in line with your post), it's more likely that pigs have a high degree of human DNA in them.

I'd say, from my somewhat limited knowledge on the topic, that the common farm pig is a cross between human and boar. Hence the similarities to humans. My friend asked her middle eastern Muslim friend why they won't eat pig meat, and she asked specifically, "is it because they are 'dirty animals', or because they are related to humans and have human DNA" and the prompt response was "the second one" - it seems like something they don't really want to talk about, even if they have this belief..

I'd say there is good possibility that human DNA was combined with wild boar, to get the more friendly and docile, easily "domesticated" version for farming. Legend has it the Atlanteans were crossing all sorts of animals with humans for various purposes; giving the legends of minotaurs, centaurs and mermaids an original source.

[Curiosity]

I don't know how much human DNA is in pigs but I tell what, I have a lot of pig DNA in me. I love my ham sandwiches, hamhocks, ham and cheese omelets, etc. Oddly though I don't care for bacon.

Seriously though, if you research Transhumanism, Chimeras, you might find some insight on the possibilities of how the human race came into existence.
If they can do it now, maybe a technologically advance race did tens of thousand sof years ago right here on this planet

http://lifeboat.com/ex/transhumanist.technologies

The "Hybrid World" is really enlightening

http://www.examiner.com/review/trans...id-world-movie

[seah]

I'd say, from my somewhat limited knowledge on the topic, that the common farm pig is a cross between human and boar. Hence the similarities to humans. My friend asked her middle eastern Muslim friend why they won't eat meat, and she asked specifically, "is it because the are 'dirty animals', or because they are related to humans and have human DNA" and the prompt response was "the second one" - it seems like something they don't really want to talk about, even if they have this belief..

I agree. It is not spoken about in Judaism either, but many scholars have come across this information. God's laws to his 'chosen people' aren't for the reasons we read...let's not forget, everything we have been taught is a lie.