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    Default Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    According to the Art of War to defeat your enemy you need to identify them and disrupt their strategy. So which method from the list do you think best achieves this? It will be a combination of these but I didn't include the cop out...."Yeah..some of them" so ask which you think is most effective.
    The problem is not disobedience the problem is obedience.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    I maybe should have included "Exposing the strategy". A large part of the strategy of enslavement is Agenda 21 (which keeps changing it's name (a moving target) have you noticed this?). It's rarely spoken about except on here and other places like it.
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    It's a bit depressing once you learn of it, but it's great knowledge that will let you be much more accepting about the world.

    after about 10 years old you're going to have a hard time changing the programming of a human & the stronger the belief in that programming the harder it will be to get out because the believer will defend it, sometimes violently.

    the first 5 min or so of this video are amazing (well the whole thing is really) at explaining how our brains work especially when handling strongly held beliefs... understanding this will answer the question: why hasn't the world changed for the better

    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    Like TargeT said we are all programmed from an early age, the older you get, especially past a certain age the harder it will be for you change.
    That is while most of your effort in trying to change people will fall on deaf ears

    If someone is willing to talk about anything you find in Avalon, well they are already there or should I say here!

    Out of your list you will already talk to people you meet, so I have chosen Meditation but, by meditation I don't mean classical Meditation but do anything that helps raise your vibs and overall self!
    People feel your vib when you are in good vib, and will talk

    Plus I do believe in ET's/Beings from elsewhere/times, and they will like your higher vibs as-well.

    One other thing I will say:
    What ever you do don't do aggressive actions, unless things get to the point where there are such physical Revolution's taking place and there is no alternative. Join Organized groups, don't do aggressive acts on your own, or you will be lost, you will be as they would have you be.

    Quickley looking at the Poll results so far, I see you are very civilized and running on higher Vibs already
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    One of the simplest examples / methods to demonstrate displeasure with the system, would be (if possible) to get all the people to only but petroleum from a single oil company, or to only buy your gas and electricity for a simgle company / supplier.

    Not only would this bring all the competition to the negotiating table, it would also (as Lochinvar said) disrupt their strategy and method of control.

    Simply put as a majority we have that basic power of of influence to disrupt the financial system and create change this way.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?


    ...

    Education



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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    I wouldn't try to persuade anyone about what is going on. It involves an emotional attachment to the outcome which is a recipe for disaster when you're dealing with their operating system. Instead I just see my role as telling folk that I worked in the UK parliament where my job was to make voting meaningless. Most of the time the response is that that is not what I did. I usually leave it there in those cases.

    I think the main problem in the world is one person telling another what to do. I prefer to lead myself.
    The problem is not disobedience the problem is obedience.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    In total agreement Herve, but in our current society the educational system has become corrupted by the very same system to disguise the mechanisms of control wouldn't you agree?

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    When you say "Education" do you mean talking to people you meet, posting on the internet or some other way?
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    Well, I just answer the question as qualified...

    Quote Other - please state concisely
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)

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    Education
    Quote Posted by Andynko (here)
    In total agreement Herve, but in our current society the educational system has become corrupted by the very same system to disguise the mechanisms of control wouldn't you agree?
    How did you learn how the system got skewed... isn't it through educating yourself?

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    So to clarify you're saying the most effective method of bringing change is to educate yourself?
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    I think you need to combine a few of these. These polls need some help. They are like FOX/CNN polls, misleading and trying to guide us all to their answer.

    Meditation - I hear meditation is wonderful but other than repeating a prayer over and over, I have not had the patience to meditate but it seems to be one of many activities of the happier / more successful people I know.

    Hacking computer systems - Guess that depends on what you are hacking and how many people see behind the curtain.

    Telling people about ET's - I know nothing about ETs so please share

    Taking to the streets - Just gonna get you killed unless you have a mass amount of people and usually when you have mass crowds, they are complaining about the wrong thing, at least here in the US.

    Not paying tax/registering to vote - I don't really pay taxes, they take mine. Voting or not voting makes little difference unless you wake up a lot more people.

    Posting on the internet - If your posts makes sense and wake up people, this is probably one of the more effective ways since you can reach far more people.

    Talking to people you meet - Makes sense

    Petitions/writing to representatives - If you wake enough people up this can help to expose the game, but you need to find the right representative. I guess this is where statists and I disagree but if enough people are truly "awake" and pay attention, then it could be conceivable that a government could exist.

    Revolution - I'd love to hear the plan.

    So I guess all of the above?

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    In my struggle to find the perfect poll I was asking which you think is most effective method to bring change. If it's not listed you can click "other" and tell us.
    The problem is not disobedience the problem is obedience.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    If the premise is true that by 10 years old a human in effectively "LOST" in belief systems imposed by authority figures i.e. parents, teachers, school, religion, outside forces, then there is no way but to start over. I've spoken with people in their 90's who refused to open themselves to a new way of thinking until the very last weeks of their lives. I have to ask how much time is a person allowed in an incarnation to become aware of their involvement in promoting the status quo? In middle age, when the pressures of the system of earning a living really are felt, most people I interfaced with always said, "just don't mess with my paycheck." We are on individual journeys but our mere existence lends credence to the man-made systems we live under. In the USA, we all are on a material quest. Our desires for the newest technology, to upgrade our personal material systems, to re-decorate our homes and buy the latest autos even if the excuse is going electric, overpowers most of us. I remember a classroom assignment in the 7th grade (1957) asking us to make a list of the things we would take into a fallout shelter if the atom bomb was about to be dropped. My first thing was: MAKEUP. So sad!!

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    "Makeup"...lol... great post! Hey if the makeup had iodine in it you would've been fine.....
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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    Practical methods - perhaps this book might help in some instances? Notice of it came to me today - I have not read it. Part of the Amazon blurb for it is:

    " A few of the 15 questions asked: * How do you see the world today in terms of the challenges facing us? * What are your thoughts about money and the global banks? * What is your opinion on vaccines? * Do chemtrails exist and if so, why are we being sprayed? * Seeing the madness around me, can you suggest ways to regain my trust in the future and how to act to make a positive change?"

    It is on Amazon. Perhaps it only poses questions, and not answers - I cannot say.
    So What Can I Do?: Answers from inspired researchers around the world today (Volume 1)
    Paperback – December 29, 2015


    http://www.amazon.com/So-What-Can-Do...at+can+i+do%22

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    Thanks Meggings. Worth a look. What are your views on how to effect change?
    The problem is not disobedience the problem is obedience.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    Thank you for the post and can tell you tried to put some thought into it. Sometimes polls can determine the direction of the macrocosm (public) through a question (poll) in the microcosm (forum). In regards to affecting change all the points you covered likely help on some level. But imo the person that can have real peace through any situation can profoundly affect.

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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    All of the above practised conscientiously except for those sad cases who end up in the madhouse . I abstain

    Putting my right finger on the touchpad me thinks perhaps we are only finger away from the change we so need , an inch away from the right solution ,
    and yet ...as if in accordance with the Heisenberg principle of uncertainty the moment we are almost there ..we lost it .
    Why because the greater reality rebounces itself in space time in periodic waves and what we perceive as 'presence' and 'us' are but remnants of the previous ripple of space time .
    Sometimes , we seem to 'ride the wave' even if we know we are bound to fall off at its deep ends ..


    we live in what we call 'unconsciousness' in relation to the powers of the Universe and the Universe seems to be quite unconscious of us .



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    Default Re: Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

    I might be breaking the rules here but I hope I can wangle it

    My answer is a combo move. I put meditation and/or emotional self development as most important but don't believe it is enough.

    Introspection, legal protest and raising the profile of the issues best one can with friends/family etc (<-not easy or always possible)

    This is the combination from the list
    • Meditation
      - and or emotional self development
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      Plus one or more of..
      .
    • Taking to the streets
    • Posting on the internet
    • Talking to people you meet
    • Petitions/writing to representatives

    I've collapsed under the weight of my own answer. But I hope my post makes sense

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