Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[Valley]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zcuEEE5sII

[ZooLife]

Posted by StandingWave (here)
This:

There is two or more questions built into the above meme.

If the voice in your head is you, who's the one listening to it?

and

If your head is you, who's the one in it?


Then there is...... who's who....... which is redundant and through redundancy self creates this field of play one finds themselves in today.




.: Add on :.

Posted by Hey it's me (here)
Who's on 1st, What's on 2nd and I Don't Know is on 3rd. Let's play ball!
Answer: it's got to be Who who's doing the lookin'
(I know this is off topic, but can I get a written excuse from the teacher?
I need to go outside and play with Lou and Bud......
as Lou finally got his son to come out of the pool and they're both happy to play....)

Hey it's me, I did not see your last post.

Your post makes my post redundant though, to be fair, redundancy doesn't have a beginning, it just 'seems' to have (one).

[Clear Light]

Posted by Enola (here)
I am working on opening and unblocking my heart right now. As I feel this is where one of my main obstacles lie and it opens the door to so much else. Does anyone have anything to share on successful heart-awakening?

Oh, Enola, as I don't know what kind of a "path" you are "walking" (so-to-speak) and goodness knows we can't all walk the same one LOL ... nevertheless here's an "Anthony de Mello" quote which could help (some people but not necessarily you) :

"My life is like shattered glass" said the visitor. "My soul is tainted
with evil. Is there any hope for me ?"

"Yes" said the Master. "There is something whereby each
broken thing is bound again and every stain made clean"

"What ?"

"Forgiveness"

"Whom do I forgive ?"

"Everyone. Life, God, your neighbor. And especially yourself"

"How is that done ?"

"By understanding that no one is to blame" said the Master.

"No one" !

And in the same vein (so-to-speak) :

"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious" [C. G. Jung]

[greybeard]

Anthony was none to popular with the church as it promotes guilt.
Nice to see him quoted Simon.

Love Chris

[greybeard]

Thanks to Paula for this from the list of quotes on another thread

“Your duty is to be and not to be this or that. 'I am that I am' sums up the whole truth. The method is summed up in the words 'Be still'. What does stillness mean? It means destroy yourself. Because any form or shape is the cause for trouble. Give up the notion that 'I am so and so'. All that is required to realize the Self is to be still. What can be easier than that?”
― Ramana Maharshi

[Clear Light]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Anthony was none to popular with the church as it promotes guilt.
Nice to see him quoted Simon.

Love Chris

Hmmm ... reveals Guilt more like no ?

[greybeard]

Posted by Clear Blue Skies (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Anthony was none to popular with the church as it promotes guilt.
Nice to see him quoted Simon.

Love Chris

Hmmm ... reveals Guilt more like no ?

Maybe reveres guilt ----I meant promote guilt as a concept keeps the confessional busy

Not that articulate these days Simon my friend.

C

[Clear Light]

Posted by greybeard (here)
I meant promote guilt as a concept keeps the confessional busy

Ah ! Yes, I see Chris

The idea that each of us can be directly spiritual is radical.
Most religions are based not on teaching adherents to be
directly spiritual, but in persuading them to trust in the
intercession of ministers or priests. The problem with this
approach is that we cannot gain access to spirituality
except through the medium of a fallible human being.
If we want to see [the] Tao, we need only open our eyes
and trust what we see.

Deng Ming-Dao

[RunningDeer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Thanks to Paula for this from the list of quotes on another thread

“Your duty is to be and not to be this or that. 'I am that I am' sums up the whole truth. The method is summed up in the words 'Be still'. What does stillness mean? It means destroy yourself. Because any form or shape is the cause for trouble. Give up the notion that 'I am so and so'. All that is required to realize the Self is to be still. What can be easier than that?”
― Ramana Maharshi

Thanks, Chris. Here's part of that post. Time's precious, so quotes are one way to decide what resonates and go deeper into. Though, for myself the names below were either discovered synchronistically or at the bookstore when they called out, "Pick me. Pick me."

Repost

Here’s a short list of philosopher, sage, teacher(s) from my days of reflection that speak to that:

• Nisargadatta Maharaj, (quotes)
  
• Eknath Easwaran translations of the trilogy: “The Dhammapada”, “The Upanishads”, “The Bhagavad Gita”, (quotes)
  
• Sri Ramana Maharishi (quotes)
  
• Dr. David R. Hawkins, (quotes)
  
• Mooji, (quotes)

If I had to pick a favorite, it'd be a toss up between Nisargadatta Maharaja and David Hawkins but for different reasons in what they passed along.

Adding here: Eknath Easwaran is a close second place.

♡

[Meggings]

On the topic of oneness, this little marvellous experience happened to me in the night. Asleep in a position not allowing my cat to curl up in my arm and sleep against my chest, she came and pawed at the back of my neck, making a tiny little cat noise in her throat. As I rolled over to give space for her to rest her head on my arm, I realized I had understood her verbalization.

To put it in English needs more than the one sound she made - it was essentially " love-me - love-you ". At a higher level of myself I comprehended the two-way nature of the love she was speaking of - the giving-receiving that makes the whole, or the one.

Trifling as this is, I share it, since I've never so directly translated an animal verbalization before, and the two-way nature of love surprised me in the message.

[greybeard]

Thanks for sharing that Meggins
Brings to mind.
I had a female Prince Charles --I was away from home for a few week and when I came in the door she bounded up to me and I swear she was saying/barking "I love you, I love you" not like the usual bark not that she did much of that, furthermore I am sure she knew what it meant.

Animals know much more than we give them credit for.
Dr Hawkins calibrated a dogs tail wag or cats mew at 500--the level of love.
No that many human calibrate at that level.

If you dont know what love is--chance is you have never had a dog or cat as a pet.
So there you go.

C

[Wind]

My dog has teached me what selfless love really means. In his eyes I see pure innocence, the Creator looking back.

[betoobig]

I do trust in the veil between dimensions is falling, the interaction between species is growing. Both of your experiences, Meggins and Chris , prove it. Thanks so much.
Paula i love to see you around.
Much love

[Meggings]

I beg the indulgence of Chris and the readers of his thread, but this came to me today and I'm jumping up and down inside wanting to share it with a "yes" - but could not figure out the best place for it.



I have no book nor authority beyond my personal experience, but when I lived in "no thought", mind still operated. It seems to have aspects - I've noticed intuition and intellect as two of these aspects. When thinking intellect goes quiet, intuition arises, and in that state the body/personality is directed by this higher aspect, and I saw myself acting with "no thought".

Once I wrote in a journal that I'd detected/noticed/observed I think five different aspects of mind. It would be near impossible to find those old notes, and all I have it this scant memory to relate.

I've been all over this universe and always was my own point of awareness. Duality is not only in these lower dimensional levels we live, but the individuality of God that I am exists in all levels I have experienced.

Forgive me for too...many...words. Sometimes I want to share, and you guys are "it" for that function.

[Chester]

I experienced the same... essentially that once I found myself within the realms of form, aspects that I recognize as "duality" arose and I still have this experience.

[greybeard]

Posted by Meggings (here)
I beg the indulgence of Chris and the readers of his thread, but this came to me today and I'm jumping up and down inside wanting to share it with a "yes" - but could not figure out the best place for it.




I have no book nor authority beyond my personal experience, but when I lived in "no thought", mind still operated. It seems to have aspects - I've noticed intuition and intellect as two of these aspects. When thinking intellect goes quiet, intuition arises, and in that state the body/personality is directed by this higher aspect, and I saw myself acting with "no thought".

Once I wrote in a journal that I'd detected/noticed/observed I think five different aspects of mind. It would be near impossible to find those old notes, and all I have it this scant memory to relate.

I've been all over this universe and always was my own point of awareness. Duality is not only in these lower dimensional levels we live, but the individuality of God that I am exists in all levels I have experienced.

Forgive me for too...many...words. Sometimes I want to share, and you guys are "it" for that function.

This is the place, your place too Meggings and you dont have to ask.
I found all your words very helpful, encouraging and Ramana's as usual to the point.

Much love to you
Chris

[RunningDeer]

Posted by betoobig (here)
Paula i love to see you around.
Much love

Hello Juan,

I tip-toe in from time to time. Alas, the days are whipping by. They've gone from 24 hrs. to 14 hrs. long. It's a tricky balance to live in the forum and in the world.

….or is it “Be in the world and not of the world”?

♡

[Valley]

It looks like you're 'dancing' to me...
❤

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
I tip-toe in from time to time.

♡

[Innocent Warrior]

[Chester]

the finger pointing to the moon.

http://www.awakeblogger.com/the-mean...ng-to-the-moon

Truth has nothing to do with words. Truth can be likened to the bright moon in the sky. Words, in this case, can be likened to a finger. The finger can point to the moon’s location. However, the finger is not the moon. To look at the moon, it is necessary to gaze beyond the finger, right?

... and yet here I am typing and pasting words.

Ken Wilber and Genpo Roshi might get "me" out of this trap -

Ken Wilber called the process “Transcend and include”. Or as Genpo Roshi put it: the reason we are able to transcend the ego but still use it as a human being is that we know the Being side of the Human Being as well as the Human Side