Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[ZooLife]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
the finger pointing to the moon.

http://www.awakeblogger.com/the-mean...ng-to-the-moon

Truth has nothing to do with words. Truth can be likened to the bright moon in the sky. Words, in this case, can be likened to a finger. The finger can point to the moon’s location. However, the finger is not the moon. To look at the moon, it is necessary to gaze beyond the finger, right?

... and yet here I am typing and pasting words.

Ken Wilber and Genpo Roshi might get "me" out of this trap -

Ken Wilber called the process “Transcend and include”. Or as Genpo Roshi put it: the reason we are able to transcend the ego but still use it as a human being is that we know the Being side of the Human Being as well as the Human Side

Ironically the word 'Truth' is (also) the finger pointing and is no more the truth then a lie (is).

All pointing begins with an eye.

[Valley]

The eyes of the 'I' wander/wonder why
The 'two' enables sharing with you/I

Creation is collectively calibrating
By relating, debating, and celebrating

The One is having fun
On a journey long begun

[ZooLife]

A B C

One Be Sea

Sea Be a See as far as One can See

See imagined what was beyond the Sea

Imagining See still saw Sea

How great the Sea See Saw

There must Be nothing beyond the Sea that See cannot See

One Be See

A B C

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O0DJ8hWgNes

[ZooLife]

Can you imagine what ___ was like before reception, conception, deception?

Unimaginable

Inconceivable

Imperceivable

Unknowable

........yet there are words that allude.

[Valley]

'It' must have been 'fresh'... similar to how 'It' still is now... forever changing... and yet remaining the same.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2zkjQVh5KmQ

Posted by ZooLife (here)
Can you imagine what ___ was like before reception, conception, deception?

[Bia]

Sorry, not transcended, but educated and transformed to serve our higher nature in the physical world. Not every Spiritual Master says that the ego must be transcended. Mine doesn't...

[greybeard]

welcome to the thread Bia
All view points are accommodated here.
Very few are ego less--Im not.
Enlightenment/Self realisation is, as yet, rare.
So we have to deal with life as we find it.

Love Chris

[greybeard]

Ramana Maharshi seems to be one of the most respected sages.
Ramesh Balsekar had a picture of him on the table beside him when giving talks--he called him the Guru's Guru.
Papaji, Mooji, Ganagi are of that linage. Tolle and Dr Hawkins quoted him as did Nasargadatta.
I found him early on but did not at that time understand what he was saying, on revisiting I do now
Chris

[Clear Light]

Ah, I just felt like sharing : "Much thanks to ALL my Spiritual Friends at Avalon"

'tis a wonderful "place" to hang out isn't it eh ?

[Chester]

Posted by ZooLife (here)

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
the finger pointing to the moon.

http://www.awakeblogger.com/the-mean...ng-to-the-moon

Truth has nothing to do with words. Truth can be likened to the bright moon in the sky. Words, in this case, can be likened to a finger. The finger can point to the moon’s location. However, the finger is not the moon. To look at the moon, it is necessary to gaze beyond the finger, right?

... and yet here I am typing and pasting words.

Ken Wilber and Genpo Roshi might get "me" out of this trap -

Ken Wilber called the process “Transcend and include”. Or as Genpo Roshi put it: the reason we are able to transcend the ego but still use it as a human being is that we know the Being side of the Human Being as well as the Human Side

Ironically the word 'Truth' is (also) the finger pointing and is no more the truth then a lie (is).

All pointing begins with an eye.

That feels very true.

[Chester]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Ramana Maharshi seems to be one of the most respected sages.
Ramesh Balsekar had a picture of him on the table beside him when giving talks--he called him the Guru's Guru.
Papaji, Mooji, Ganagi are of that linage. Tolle and Dr Hawkins quoted him as did Nasargadatta.
I found him early on but did not at that time understand what he was saying, on revisiting I do now
Chris

If I was forced into isolation and was told I could take one book and one book only... this would be the book -

http://selfdefinition.org/ramana/Tal...--complete.pdf

[greybeard]

"The Eye of the I" great Dr Hawkins book--one of my favourites.

Chris

Have a look at the pre view on the link (Science and spirituality included in the book)

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...e_Eye_of_the_I

[Valley]

Oh yeah... "The Eye of the I: From Which Nothing Is Hidden"... I like that title. I also remember reading through that book and feeling like it was definitely a 'top-shelfer'.
Blessing...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI

[Clear Light]

Oh I like the sound of this one !!!

[Wind]

Often I hear people say, 'I am really fed up with the ego,'
so there clearly seems to be a 'someone' who is fed up with the ego and who is being quite dramatic about it.
However, it must be pointed out that the real Self
has no likes, dislikes, issues or dramas.
So the frustrated one who wants to kill the ego
must be more closely looked at
rather than just being believed unquestioningly.
Is this one's voice trustworthy?
Can it be actually identified? Please try.
And next thing: who or what is aware of all this?
Isn't it your Self?
Is this Self the same as the one who is fed up of ego?
Contemplate.

~ Mooji

[Akasha]

Some more gold from Sadhguru in quite a lengthy but very digestible back and forth between him and a devotee who experienced a dramatic improvement in her health whilst following his regimen for three months at one of his ashrams:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PZ6KU4WJ_4k

[greybeard]

Welcome to the thread Akasha
Thanks for the video.
love Chris

[Enola]

I find a regular practice of yoga, meditation, and a raw food diet is really priceless. It might not do so much one day at a time but it slowly and surely burns up negative energy and increases your positive energy.

[betoobig]

Words without experience are empty, on the contrary words backed up by experience are full of truth.
I said so.
But then i come to understand how carefull words have to be selected.
I am having a hard time trying to have any conversation which seems empty of value, so i am talking much less. Not a problem, but a gift.
Much love to all ( i love sending love)

[greybeard]

Non Duality - Awakenings (loaded 16 January 2016)

Russel Williams - 'Looking Through The Horse's Eyes' - Interview by Iain McNay.

Russel was born in 1921 in a very poor family.
He was orphaned at 11 and came close to death many times. In the second world war he took part in the Dunkirk evacuation and lived through the Blitz. He was never afraid.
He joined a circus after the war and worked with the animals. It was here that he suddenly became aware that, 'I am the horses, dogs, the lion, the trees - everything is true nature.'
He hasn't had any unwanted thoughts since he was 29 years old. 'The only way to attain experience is to come to complete emptiness; that is to come to the end of the thought mind.
But you will find that the emptiness was never empty because it is a potential for all that may come to be. We enter into an area of extremely fine aspects of consciousness that dissolves into itself and loses duality.
And then there is only 'that.' Everything leads back to this emptiness. No form of understanding can connect you to this. It has to be seen within itself.
The peace that passes all understanding that is emptiness.
It is completely fulfilling in itself.
You can just BE instead of think.

'Russel has a book available written with Steve Taylor, 'Not I, Not Other Than I: The Life and Teachings of Russel Williams'.

http://conscious.tv/nonduality.html?...=4700956433001