Should the government be able to make Apple crack the iPhone?

[Snoweagle]

Of course Apple and the major Corporations will contest the requests from the FBI and alphabet agencies BECAUSE they want to monitor us and they want to profit from our lives.

I agree with Apple and the others that encryption protects our privacy.

Once that is accepted as a norm, then we can create our own encryption to hide our thoughts and aspirations from the Corporations as well.

[Anchor]

This whole thing makes me realise how easy it is for TPTB working in concert with a "somewhat" controlled opposition (Big Business in this case) to control the narrative.

I really hope Tim Cook is a real rebel though!

There are some good write-ups out there that explain the technical detail more thoroughly - there is no "masterkey" as has been suggested in this thread - just an assist with brute force key guessing - still as Tim Cook stated, this is a slippery slope he doesn't want to get on.

I think the whole debate has been orchestrated control public opinion on encryption, nothing new there though.

Just like it didnt when PGP came out, I doubt it will succeed this time, even if Apple ends up cracking that phone, they will adapt and design out any remaining flaws that permit the intervention.

Unless Apple can convince the courts that the request is unreasonably burdensome (which I think it is), eventually Apple will have to do the work and provide the means for the means that the government has requested in order to attempt to crack "this particular phone" - even then based on the information available so far, it might not be possible in anything like a useful timeframe.

Encryption (and anonymity) are too fundamental to the privacy and security of what goes in our minds and for free expression - especially on forums like this one.

Given that it was the only one out of three that didn't get destroyed, probably has nothing on it of any use - probably a good thing for any innocent party that might have talked to the perp beforehand.

[mgray]

The FBI is pursuing the same strategy in a Brooklyn, NY federal case against a meth ring. Briefs by Apple and the DOJ have already been filed in the case. The court could rule here before California even gets started.

But you won't hear about this case because it's not as sexy as terrorism.

The government wants the key to all iPhones not just the San Bernadino case.

It's a slippery slope and Apple is right to protect itself and us on privacy issues. It a shame Apple has to invoke the Constitutional right and not the Government. lol

Apple promised users when it rolled out Apple Pay that the encryption was so tough that not even Apple would know what you are doing. So they are standing by their word.

[mojo]

On the news today the reporter mentioned that the justice debt is hoping for public pressure on Apple. It's a bummer I haven't heard one candidate support privacy and sad that Trump mentioned to boycott Apple. The Feds aren't telling the truth to the public. They have all the phone records from the San Bernardino case yet they are acting like they dont. What gives?

[risveglio]

Posted by mojo (here)
On the news today the reporter mentioned that the justice debt is hoping for public pressure on Apple. It's a bummer I haven't heard one candidate support privacy and sad that Trump mentioned to boycott Apple. The Feds aren't telling the truth to the public. They have all the phone records from the San Bernardino case yet they are acting like they dont. What gives?

Yes, Trump tweeted from his iPhone that we should boycott Apple. Who are the idiots supporting this idiot?

[TargeT]

funny thing is, apples encryption is pretty weak; the government could break it if they wanted to... but they don't they want official sanction to erode our rights more.

[mojo]

Every phone, text email is currently being collected by the US. They have the phone records already. There is no need to break into phone which leads to another reason why that many have alluded too That is to take more privacy away from citizens under the guise of national security.

[Anchor]

Apples motion to vacate is totally kickass.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/300522068

The government says: “Just this once” and “Just this phone.” But the government knows those statements are not true; indeed the government has filed multiple other applications for similar orders, some of which are pending in other courts.

And as news of this Court’s order broke last week, state and local officials publicly declared their intent to use the proposed operating system to open hundreds of other seized devices—in cases having nothing to do with terrorism.

If this order is permitted to stand, it will only be a matter of days before some other prosecutor, in some other important case, before some other judge, seeks a similar order using this case as precedent. Once the floodgates open, they cannot be closed, and the device security that Apple has worked so tirelessly to achieve will be unwound without so much as a congressional vote.

The government obtained the Order without notice to Apple and without allowing Apple an opportunity to be heard. See Mullane v. Cent. Hanover Bank & Tr. Co., 339 U.S. 306, 314 (1950) (recognizing that one of the “‘fundamental requisite[s] of due process of law is the opportunity to be heard’”) (quoting Grannis v. Ordean, 234 U.S. 385, 394 (1914)). But this was not a case where the government needed to proceed in secret to safeguard its investigation; indeed, Apple understands that the government alerted reporters before filing its ex parte application, and then, immediately after it was signed and confirmed to be on the docket, distributed the application and Order to the public at about the same time it notified Apple. Moreover, this is the only case in counsel’s memory in which an FBI Director has blogged in real-time about pending litigation, suggesting that the government does not believe the data on the phone will yield critical evidence about other suspects.

Very worth reading the whole body of the motion... pages 12-36.