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    Question Is there an alternative to money?

    The invention of money contained since it's inception the lie of demanding more money back than was created. The lies continued, trusting it's creators and eventually became of what exists today:
    Some elite groups owning and controlling the governments of earth including most part of earth civilization.
    the following film illustrates this very well.



    The other day, I came across a UFO contact write-up about a race with the name "Korendians" from Bob Renaud. (http://galactic.no/rune/korundor1.html)

    I don't know whether true or not - however I found the following part about money interesting:

    Quote "The alliance naturally has a policeforce called the Guardian Patrol.

    Their job=to protect the Alliance planets from hostile forces, and have free right to move to all planets and arrest possible criminals -which is very rare, as they claim not a single crime on the 610years.

    This is because all things are in abundance on those planets and they do not use money - but use produced TIME as a measure - not converting this time to money, which can be misused by others. They say that if WE HERE got this system, 95%i of the crimes would be eliminated!!!"
    I am wondering, how time can be used as a means of exchanging goods.
    (Only thing that comes to mind as shown in the film "In Time" from 2011 )

    If one could create an ideal civilization - how would one exchange goods?
    What is your view of "an alternative to money"?
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    Default Re: An alternative to money

    Time as in putting in time serving your community/earth in some way. That would make sense. Not putting in EXTENSIVE time for some multi-billion dollar corporation that doesn't care much about the earth we live on or the people. Only it's image and it's continued success

    Some advanced civilizations use energy as a currency I've heard. Or simply trade tech but maybe that's more so planet to planet.
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    Default Re: An alternative to money

    "If one could create an ideal civilization - how would one exchange goods?"

    give it for free.

    It amazes me how deep we are into the conditioning that at times its hard for us to come by the very obvious solution

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    Default Re: An alternative to money

    I was wondering for a while now ETs use any currency other then money.

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    Default Re: An alternative to money

    Hi,
    its time banking:

    http://www.timebanking.org.uk/how_ti...king_works.asp

    But I personally do not think having a freely exchangable medium such as a coin/bag of beans/bit etc is inherently bad, but perhaps charging interest is...

    I think Ubuntu is a kind of hybrid where the community pools time, everybody chips in, but they can go out and work for money too. I think that is a transition model we need to build. Unfortunately it is poisonous to the current powers that be.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    If people truly cared for one another… a better system awaits. If everyone exercised responsibility… a better system awaits. We should not be as competitive, so ego driven, so reluctant to trust in others. In doing so, we create divisions among ourselves…ultimately creating dissonance and a sense of false security and contrived dependency.

    What we need to realize (and fast) is that we’re all connected…in one way or another. Our actions (and in-actions) will always affect others… no matter how menial/insignificant the results may appear to you.

    Here’s an ancient idea that still has the greatest potential, and room for improvement…

    Imagine if we removed welfare and made education and healthcare free. Then created a data base of everyone’s name, skill sets, talents, desired contributions. The database sends messages of All jobs/work/employment out to the people in the database (Daily and/or Periodically). People scan the list and make a choice to work/contribute, or not. All work has the potential/option to offer additional payments/incentives to build consistency. People with obvious, specific skills will get in where they fit in… instead of being forced to doing duties’ they aren’t as versed in. Free education will remove the excuse of not having skills, Free healthcare ensures that everyone is healthy and happy. Incentives inspire commitments to greatness, replacing welfare with free education can only enhance society.

    If we stay dependent on a flawed/crooked/self-serving system…stay self-righteous, stay selfish…stay divided...we all lose. Winning by harming is the same as practicing wickedness, its an illusion that caters to the ego (your false being). Winning by unjustly capitalizing on others misfortunes will circulate those unwanted negative energies. There’s no true escape from pain you caused indirectly…as it will manifest itself in your life in some form, energy in, energy out, it can't be destroyed. Everyone will be connected to the suffering… Including the many blind supporters and enforcers of this out dated control scheme.

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    Humans created so much wonder through their division, just imagine what they can do through Unity...

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    Quote Posted by 6pounder (here)
    I was wondering for a while now ETs use any currency other then money.
    Here's a number of stories about incidents relating to your inquiry...
    http://space.galactic.to/linkmap.html

    I also find this quote by Sir Josiah Stamp, president of the Bank of England in the 20's, to be quite valid...

    "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. The bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with a flick of a pen, they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it [all] away from them, then all the fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this world would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to make deposits."

    In Unity, Peace and Love
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    Default Re: An alternative to money

    This movie about BUYING TIME through your labors and paying with the liquid in a tube in your arm or some device for what you wanted which BUYS you for time to LIVE comes to mind. Very clever. However, if you were unable to find employment to keep the life-giving substance in your arm, you suddenly dropped dead. NO that is a horrible, if imaginative story similar to the black budget scientists who are connected to a chemical pouch which keeps them alive as long as they slave for their suppliers. If they go astray or awol, the pouch is not refilled and they die. Do you think such NAZI ALIEN RULERS deserve to live?

    We must all create a system of working for free, but indeed what we produce when we work will provide for us and each other. This sends us back to a simpler form of life initially to produce food, clothing and shelter. Transport can be shared as in the Venus Project. Village type communities to reduce commuting, free education and learning and invention communities. Mankind, educated from youth, will WANT to produce and take JOY in it as it will provide him with mental and physical fulfillment. Unpleasant jobs can be shared or done by robots. In the interim between our present system and that, Karen Hudes ideas about GOLD strips in money which is interest free will fill the bill.

    Under no circumstances must electronic credits in some computer system substitute for physical exchange of money, because then we are under the total control of SOMEONE. This WILL BE MISUSED INTO SLAVERY AGAIN.

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