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    Default Re: If there really is no Hell, how can negative Near Death Experiences be explained that say they went to Hell?

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Mind/energy takes you to where you go---somewhere compatible to your spiritual vibration and expectation.

    Now this is just a thought.

    We are in Maya-the collective dream--dying does not free you from this and back you come ---reincarnate after a "rest".
    Now here is the thing---what if you are out of the dream in this life time? What if you are Self realised--enlightened?

    There would be no individual to reincarnate, or go to what we perceive as heaven or hell.

    This is why raising ones personal consciousness, preferable to the degree there is no individual left, is so important.
    This is why we are here, as far as I can tell.

    Chris
    You know Chris, that was a great thought

    I've been thinking along those lines too as I remember the last cross over point with more detail than I dare to recall in detail too often

    But get this , the last time I knew it would lead to this again.

    An explanation of the situation would be to say. Deep breath here we go again, do I really have to go through all this again? cant I just stay here with everyone instead of what seems like constant in & out?, the answer is no. This is how you go on & on,you know how things work.

    Being awake is quite tiring

    And just to add, the end of the last cross over wasn't very pleasant .
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    Default Re: If there really is no Hell, how can negative Near Death Experiences be explained that say they went to Hell?

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    .....if end of life experiences really are a DMT fueled experience,then your inner landscape will be highly influential in how the experience "goes".....
    I'm down with Target on this one. Anyone who has experienced strong psychedelics (of which DMT is arguably the most powerful) will be aware that they can quickly turn bad depending on the mindset of the partaker.
    For anyone who has never crossed the psychedelic threshold, this statement will most likely seem meaningless but for seasoned psychonauts, awareness of the rule can be the difference between coming back again or not so to speak. I'm not talking about dying per se, rather ending up a basket case.

    NDE's experienced by those unaware of such biochemical dynamics at play within them at the time of the event are likely to interpret the experience ….errrr…..shall we say…..differently to say the least.......and even for those who have had prior experience in similar "fields" the event could still be sufficiently overwhelming to convince the partaker of otherworldly activity / existence.

    Quote The psychedelic drug that could explain our belief in life after death



    Scientists have discovered DMT, the Class A hallucinogenic, naturally occurs in the body, and may contain a clue to what happens when we die and why people see fairies
    DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) is the most powerful hallucinogenic drug around. The class A psychedelic is so potent that under the 1971 UN Convention on Psychotropic Substances its manufacture is strictly for scientific research and medical use and any international trade is very closely monitored. But it also naturally occurs in the human body. Now a Senior Psychologist at Greenwich University, Dr. David Luke, is trying to undercover a link between DMT and 'near death experiences' to explain elves, tunnels of light and centuries old folklore. On July 8th he’ll talk about his research at an event in conjunction with SciArt collaboration Art Necro at The Book Club in London.
    Tell me about yourself
    I am a psychologist at the University of Greenwich and I teach a course on the psychology on the exceptional human experience, which looks at extraordinary phenomenon of human beings. It’s all about mythical experiences, psychedelic experiences, personal paranormal experiences, mysticism, spiritual experiences, those sorts of things.
    I do research on altered states of consciousness and exceptional human experiences, including psychedelics, medication, hypnosis as altered states and the experiences people have in the states such as out of body experiences, possession, telepathy, and clairvoyance – all your usual stuff..... full article here
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