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    Default Re: Is this really Nibiru ?

    This post (<---) may help some in aligning their ducks and deconfuse brown dwarf (i.e. "second sun") from planet and the asteroid and Kuiper belts from the Oort cloud... ?

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    Default Re: Planet X / Niburu / Wormwood / Binary Star ... Someone help me ID this?

    Great, thanks for the admin mgmt.
    I have a lot of footage from the phenomenon when the sun is directly overhead, in fact I have it from almost every time of day. Atmospheric effect maybe a reason for some of it, but the spatial-temporal aspects are left unexplained... Here's one where the first 40 seconds include the phenomenon directly overhead at around 1100 AM...
    I spelled February wrong in it... I know.
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    Default Re: Is this really Nibiru ?

    I have a camera stationary, and I am not a photography buff so I ask not facetiously... Is there a reason the filter flare moves across the sky in that case?

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    I was the person who shot and posted that video... My more recent ones are more compelling. Nick: with that logic, the first person to observe anything would be denied on account of it being observed only in... ______. It's illogical.

    Crap how do I go back to quote?

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    Quote Posted by astrwonomylive (here)
    Quote Posted by Mutchie (here)
    See the above video ... Why is it footage like this keeps getting filmed if it,s all a HOAX ?
    Because people keep filming filter flares with their phones and cameras, but either don't understand how filter flares work, or deliberately lie and pretend it's real. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy. It's just a filter flare. It doesn't matter how many times people film filter flares. Yes, it produces a nice round reflection of the sun offset from the sun's position and it appears to remain "stationary." It's not stationary though, or rather, it's "too stationary." By that I mean the filter flare remains fixed in the same place even as the camera is rotated. This is of course unnatural, but by panning the camera around without rotating it appears to remain fixed in the sky at a fixed distance from the sun rather than moving around like a regular lens flare. The problem for the hoaxer is that even in trying to pan the camera without rotating it the human hand is not precise enough to avoid a small degree of rotation. You can't see it when just watching the video, but if you stabilize frames on the sun a second or two apart after a panning motion you'll see that the horizon line is rotated while the filter flare is still in exactly the same place.
    What about instances where the alleged filter flare is not offset but rather superimposed?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049542
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    See the above video ... Why is it footage like this keeps getting filmed if it,s all a HOAX ?
    Because people keep filming filter flares with their phones and cameras, but either don't understand how filter flares work, or deliberately lie and pretend it's real. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy. It's just a filter flare. It doesn't matter how many times people film filter flares. Yes, it produces a nice round reflection of the sun offset from the sun's position and it appears to remain "stationary." It's not stationary though, or rather, it's "too stationary." By that I mean the filter flare remains fixed in the same place even as the camera is rotated. This is of course unnatural, but by panning the camera around without rotating it appears to remain fixed in the sky at a fixed distance from the sun rather than moving around like a regular lens flare. The problem for the hoaxer is that even in trying to pan the camera without rotating it the human hand is not precise enough to avoid a small degree of rotation. You can't see it when just watching the video, but if you stabilize frames on the sun a second or two apart after a panning motion you'll see that the horizon line is rotated while the filter flare is still in exactly the same place.
    What about instances where the alleged filter flare is not offset but rather superimposed?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049542

    That's just refraction through the cloud layer... not (as best I can see) a filter flare. There's really absolutely nothing there that's unusual in any way.

    Do please be responsible... although your intentions are good, you're inadvertently misleading a lot of people whose science (or astronomy) is not their strongest suit.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mutchie (here)
    See the above video ... Why is it footage like this keeps getting filmed if it,s all a HOAX ?
    That's just refraction through the cloud layer... not (as best I can see) a filter flare. There's really absolutely nothing there that's unusual in any way.

    Do please be responsible... although your intentions are good, you're inadvertently misleading a lot of people whose science (or astronomy) is not their strongest suit.
    I'm engaging in an honest inquiry making no claims. If I am mistaken in my observations, then the thread should help others similarly situated. Can you help me figure out how the lens is causing the transit of one object between and then away from two others?

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    Quote Posted by OneKind (here)
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    See the above video ... Why is it footage like this keeps getting filmed if it,s all a HOAX ?
    That's just refraction through the cloud layer... not (as best I can see) a filter flare. There's really absolutely nothing there that's unusual in any way.

    Do please be responsible... although your intentions are good, you're inadvertently misleading a lot of people whose science (or astronomy) is not their strongest suit.
    I'm engaging in an honest inquiry making no claims. If I am mistaken in my observations, then the thread should help others similarly situated. Can you help me figure out how the lens is causing the transit of one object between and then away from two others?


    It's not "Three Sky Objects". There are three holes (or less opaque areas) in the cloud ... and those areas of the cloud cover move.

    It's nothing to do with the camera lens. It's just what clouds do. They shift their form constantly. The light from the sun behind them then appears in different positions, depending on the thickness of the moving layer of cloud between you and the sun.

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    Quote Do please be responsible... although your intentions are good, you're inadvertently misleading a lot of people whose science (or astronomy) is not their strongest suit.
    this is what that has happened to me. and i don't know where to go and understand this better.

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    Quote Posted by OneKind (here)
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    I'm engaging in an honest inquiry making no claims.
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    It seemed to me that claims were made about 2 suns, 3 objects, etc...

    Quote If I am mistaken in my observations, then the thread should help others similarly situated. Can you help me figure out how the lens is causing the transit of one object between and then away from two others?
    As far as observations and their description go, they are akin to geocentrism claiming the sun orbits the earth: it's only an apparency.

    Your object "A" is the actual sun which light is reflected/refracted by fast moving clouds, back to the camera.

    Accordingly, for the length of the video, one can consider the sun to be fairly static in the sky (not moving much from its position).

    "B" and "C" are the sunlight being reflected/refracted by fast moving clouds with "C" moving away from possible reflection/refraction back into the direction of the camera's position (hence its apparent "occlusion").

    It's all basic optics 101.

    As such, I would advise anyone starting on this subject to acquire some clues as to what one is looking at as well as acquire some knowledge and experience as to digital cameras and their limitations and artifacts (i.e. sensor saturation, auto brightness/contrast/gamma adjustments, etc...).

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    Default Re: Is this really Nibiru ?

    Perhaps this thread shows again that there are many people who - through no fault of their own - have no idea of how the solar system 'works'. They have no mental image of relative distances and sizes of celestial objects.

    If the internet factoid is true that one in four Americans (almost certainly not just Americans!) are unaware that the earth goes round the sun, then should we be surprised if the imminent-arrival-of-Nibiru-and-its-upposed-cover-up story keeps resurfacing over and over?

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    Default Nibiru second sun 1st march 2016 [Hoax ?]

    Could this be hoaxed ?



    Another extravagant expenditure for the Vatican ?



    What is Secretum Omega ?



    Look at the 1st vid down on http://www.spaceweather.com/ Labled "(UPDATED!) SPHERICAL CAMERA AT THE EDGE OF SPACE" and tell me what the reddish sphere is or is it some kind of flare?

    Thanks in advance for the help
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    Default Re: Nibiru second sun 1st march 2016 [Hoax ?]

    An initial impression of the first video reminds me of a mirror reflection possibly brought on by atmospheric conditions.

    By no means am I discounting Nibiru with the comment. It's just an observation.

    Couldn't the second video depict Theia?
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    Default Re: Nibiru second sun 1st march 2016 [Hoax ?]

    Would it be a sun dog?

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    Would it be a sun dog?
    Or some other type of halo effect/ atmospheric effect.

    Typically sun dogs present in pairs.
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    Default Re: Is this really Nibiru ?

    Look at spaceweather.com as that is most puzzling. What is the red sphere ?

    https://theta360.com/s/so38Np9hLyHlHdk7TsuNrPgbw
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    Default Re: Is this really Nibiru ?

    So this information dated today, March 1, 2016 is not correct by David Meade:

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    Quote Posted by najara12000 (here)
    So this information dated today, March 1, 2016 is not correct by David Meade:
    How about you bullet point the most important info in that video in your opinion?

    Otherwise - regarding footage of the sun overhead. How about finding a decent dark filter and shoot some videos of the sun on a clear day? That should put the matter at rest as there will be nothing else visible than the sun.

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    Quote Posted by justntime2learn (here)
    Look at spaceweather.com as that is most puzzling. What is the red sphere ?

    https://theta360.com/s/so38Np9hLyHlHdk7TsuNrPgbw
    I'm seeing lens flares and would think that if you get another snapshot, the red sphere is either not there or is shifted.

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    Quote Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
    Quote Posted by najara12000 (here)
    So this information dated today, March 1, 2016 is not correct by David Meade:
    How about you bullet point the most important info in that video in your opinion?

    Otherwise - regarding footage of the sun overhead. How about finding a decent dark filter and shoot some videos of the sun on a clear day? That should put the matter at rest as there will be nothing else visible than the sun.

    UT
    Everything I've found on this refers to infrared photography since it is a brown dwarf and the only way to capture it is with infrared. If one wants to attack anyone on this they should attack these people using that type of photography. It still doesn't explain "what" they are filming.

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