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    Default So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

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    ... and that's a serious question.

    It was prompted by araucaria's wonderful remark here, in response to
    If Aliens Give Us 24 Hours To Prove That Humanity Is “Worthy Of Existence”, What Do We Do?

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    I'd say you've already had at least 24,000 years to size us up and if the jury is still out, then I'd say case dismissed.
    After I'd stopped laughing — I realized it left a very good, and different, question unanswered.

    There's no doubt that Planet Earth is prime interstellar real estate. It's a magnificently beautiful planet, with a huge genetic diversity, and all kinds of natural resources. We might be able to defend ourselves now against alien invaders (maybe) — but a short while ago, surely we could not.

    So there seem to be several possibilities:
    • Taking over another planet (or this planet) is against some galactic law, agreement or protocol.
    • Invaders are already here, but for some reason aren't showing themselves. (Some of them may even be in human bodies: the perfect disguise.)
    • We're already someone's property, and whoever owns us won't allow anyone else to interfere (very much).
    • It already happened a long time ago... and we are them.
    • It happened a long time ago, and there was a major high-tech war, which we lost... resulting in a ceasefire and a 'Cosmic Versailles' (Joseph Farrell's thought-provoking term, presented here). *
    [*] This is a reference to the Treaty of Versailles, following the end of the First World War. The Germans were subjugated, and were legally required to make all kinds of heavy-duty reparations to the allied victors.


    It's also possible that the reality is some combination of the above. There could also be other factors not considered — which, just maybe, we can't even conceive of... and are incapable of understanding.
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    Red face Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    However as they mange planet Earth they see it as a farm and they raid it every now and again .

    soul harvesting thing is what exactly ?
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    following on from the farming theme - I wonder if anyone is going to bring up the soul harvesting (Dulce) thing????

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Who says we haven't?

    I would support Fort's thesis, that we are already someone's property.

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Quote Posted by jonsnow (here)
    However as they mange planet Earth they see it as a farm and they raid it every now and again .

    soul harvesting thing is what exactly ?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ght=Dulce+Base
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ght=Dulce+Base
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    I would go with •It already happened a long time ago... and we are them.. But would add, there was a terrible war when the take over happened.

    And also to add to that, a certain group of entities heard of what happened and sent a presence to observer and only step in if only the planets existence was threatened again.

    And so we have terrible wars that are observed if you listen to the testimony of troops in warzones, then on the other hand we don't seem to be able to get around to a full scale nuclear confrontation .

    Also if you believe the rendlesham forest incident, maybe you have the reason they/we haven't got around to rubbing ourselves off the planet with the use of nuclear weapons.

    Simply put, there is a safe word for intervention because of past problems, and that word could quite possibly be "nuclear".
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    As above so bellow. My own feeling is that the evolution of warfare we have seen within our own race of tribes over time, reflects in a microcosm what the wider space community has no doubt also experienced to some or all degree. We don't know how long other races can live for, but as humans we live very short lives so must innovate quickly. We have been coming up with new ways of imposing control through force for about ten thousand years of accepted history, putting aside evidence for more advanced societies before that time, but we only have partial records for less than half of that time..

    The entire history of our race is defined, like it or not, by the societies and technologies we have developed within our tribal wars. Our understanding and use of force has evolved over this time to its current zenith, where the most technologically developed "tribe" on our planet, the USA and its five eyes alliance now uses drones and small well trained, well equipped, covert teams to do what a brigade and gunships or more would have done only a hundred years ago.

    Taking this line of reasoning and stretching it out with the distances of space and time and the unlimited potential of technology, we can see that a race of emotionaly challenged, aggressive, narcissistic apes like ourselves would come to similar conclusions as to the best most efficient and most cost effective ways of using force in a galactic setting.

    In its lowest and basest form warfare aims to move people to a desired action through fear of destruction. That desired action could be anything, however historically it has fallen into two main groups: to move people off or away from resources that WE want, or to subjugate the people to work for us in some way so that WE can live off their work by receiving their efforts, their tributes or taxes..

    The height of our understanding on our planet therefore is that in the overthrow of a nation or tribe, physiological warfare is king. It is the most cost effective way of influencing the minds of those who WE wish to move to a desired effect, but without the need for costly war-machine resources and any subsequent destruction of assets, which would obviously require the extra costs of rebuilding.

    Ergo. If war is a thing outside of our childish planet it would, in my opinion, be conducted with the use of small covert teams of drone-like biological robots who could act and reproduce independently. They could be used as scouts or as a forward base, or as influencers to races where the technology would seem like magic to their simple minds. The best part is this plan requires zero boots on the ground, leaving the race unhurt and fresh for their next adventures in space invasion...

    So who's to say that "they" are not already here in small groups of influencers, letting us kill each other, whilst they take our tribute and busy themselves installing so called "cell phone towers" and mining our resorces and heating up the planet with their spraying in preparation for their queen and their final most disgusting move.... Lol...

    I hope our race grows up a bit more before we get this power, my bet is that our neighbours feel the same way...x.... N
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    We if there is a small group of influencers some would say they are not doing a very good job of letting us kill each other. It certainly cant be to depopulate , unless soul harvesting is genuinely going on, it may be the reason for over population and keeping people dummed down.

    You can just imagine a truly evolved race in a craft watching a war, they would just shake there heads and go home, I known I do. Shake my head that is
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Interesting thread! I think an invasion has not happened because we have collectively not used our free will to permit existing in such a reality. In other words, I think this kind of stuff is decided on the basis of the free will of the collective of humans, not on an individual basis. An invasion is a global threat, hence the collective being must with its free will permit such an event to occur for this to take place. And that has not happened yet. This does not mean that the collective consciousness can't move in such a direction, it means it has not. This in turn indicates that we humans having decided to incarnate at earth at some point might collectively have used our free will to exist in a reality where invasion would not occur up to this point. We want to experience a lot, but an invasion is the kind of stuff we don't like and creation won't violate that free will.

    If this is so, and that I can of course not say for sure, but if it is like this, then this in turn means that we must on a personal level be aware of how we are using our free will and how we as a collective are using our free will, because if we choose a path that leads towards using our free will to allow this kind of stuff to happen, then that will not be such a great thing...

    So it could simply be that we are unconditionally protected from an invasion at the highest level based on our collective free will.

    Now, since the collective consciousness of planet earth might be a split off of a stellar collective consciousness, it might even be that on a stellar level this consciousness has used its free will not to permit an invasion into our solar system. So there could be vast regions of space where an invasion is simply not possible, whereas in some regions it might be.

    The moment when we should start to worry, is when we discover some ongoing battle somewhere in our solar system. That would be an incredibly alarming thing that would indicate that other beings in our solar system might have gone down a dangerous path and is in trouble. I think that kind of stuff happens and that help is provided. I am not aware of any kinds of proof of such a thing going on at this present time and space. All I've seen is footages of the elite using it's low tech stuff against ET forces that have total control of that kind of stuff due to how advanced they are. That kind of stuff we have allowed to take place.
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    I'll go for the idea that the folks we were the property of, lost a war, and we ARE the reparations.
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    why invade?
    demonics get their loosh
    somebody gets the gold
    genetic material is easy to take

    perhaps we are here because we made a deal to work with this collective consciouness , drag it from planetary to galactic. can we all do it? we certainly are getting the opportunity to try.

    we may be in the big brother house, but the deal is nobody can shut it down until we are ready. are we the hapless members? or the viewers? does it matter?

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    So there seem to be several possibilities:
    • Taking over another planet (or this planet) is against some galactic law, agreement or protocol.
    • Invaders are already here, but for some reason aren't showing themselves. (Some of them may even be in human bodies: the perfect disguise.)
    • We're already someone's property, and whoever owns us won't allow anyone else to interfere (very much).
    • It already happened a long time ago... and we are them.
    • It happened a long time ago, and there was a major high-tech war, which we lost... resulting in a ceasefire and a 'Cosmic Versailles' (Joseph Farrell's thought-provoking term, presented here). *
    The first three bullet points that Bill is using, can (imho) provide some good reasons why Earth has not been invaded yet.

    As for the fourth bullet point, I cannot prove it but I am sure someone in the far or near past had invaded Earth. For Bill's last bullet point, I know about the Versailles Treaty but I don't know much about Dr. Farrell's "Cosmic Versailles", I intent to watch his video in the near future.

    If we consider that Earth is an ongoing genetic experiment where some 22 (+ or - ) races or types of beings had agreed to contribute their genetic material (DNA) to run a unique experiment whose objective is to create a new type of human being (us), than it makes sense not to disrupt this ongoing experiment with an invasion, before it (the experiment) is concluded.

    According to the WingMakers, the human experiment is ongoing and Human 1.0 and 2.0 have already been created. In fact, we are currently the Human 2.0 prototype, and according to the WingMakers, by 2080 humanity will be upgraded to Human 3.0 Sovereign Integral, who is an infinite heart-centered immortal being.

    Many blessings to y' all.

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    My intuition tell's me that we are being monitored all the time. But as human scientists tend to avoid interfering to indigenous cultures they study, so do alien scientist also try to remain unseen. So I gues it is the first one:
    Taking over another planet (or this planet) is against some galactic law, agreement or protocol.

    It is also worth of mentioning, that any race that is able to travel between stars and galaxies has survived long enough to understand that slaving and conquering is not the path to follow. There might be few exceptions, but in general "good guys" are in charge.

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Quote Posted by Verdilac (here)
    We if there is a small group of influencers some would say they are not doing a very good job of letting us kill each other. It certainly cant be to depopulate , unless soul harvesting is genuinely going on, it may be the reason for over population and keeping people dummed down.

    You can just imagine a truly evolved race in a craft watching a war, they would just shake there heads and go home, I known I do. Shake my head that is
    Your right, I forgot about soul harvesting, who knows, maybe they want our souls!!


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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    my 10 cents: Planet earth HAS been invaded .. it started a very long time ago, right up to this very day. Just not "invaded" in the way we would traditionally expect*, there's no need for this primitive approach. However, there's no reason why "others" (new entrants), closer to where we are right now (evolutionary), they could "invade" in the traditional sense of the word.

    *We know that "matter" is all that we are able to perceive with our 5 senses (ignoring other non-physical senses for now), also our current electronic instrumentation is limited to this "matter" realm as well. The source of "matter" comes from something else, this is well understood from ancient knowledge (Sumer, Vedas, Egypt et al) and so-called "modern" science (quantum, string theory et al). There is significantly more of the "something else" than "matter" (which is a percentile of a percentile, of the total). Invade the "something else" & you have full-control of everything derived from it (which includes what we call "matter"). The "invasion" needn't mean control (but it can be, if so desired), I would say the invasion mostly involves "leisure", such as monitoring, experiencing, experimenting.

    We also need to bring "time" into the equation. ie. If we were to be shaken-off like fleas, because the "invaders" disapprove of our behaviour or a statistical forecast, it can easily be done, and from the invaders viewpoint, what feels like 20 millions yrs, would be a tiny fraction of that time to them. Choose the next natural cycle, for the next experiment.

    Postulate: if one posses the know-how, to create WHATEVER you want out of "fields" (by manipulating fields) & one has mastered the ability to move through "time"#. How does this change our thinking about the motives / logic / rationale behind an invasion ??

    # by definition: it is not possible to build / operate a so called ufo, without gaining insight into the "time" realm (ie. what time is, how time works, how to move through time).

    I have no doubt, in time to come, we'll see the futuristic movies Star Trek, Star Wars, Colony, Alien .. whatever, got it wrong! There is a point in evolution / scientific understanding where "scarcity" no longer applies, all these movies made a fundamental error with this assumption.

    In short: When you have all that you want, why would you invade (in the traditional sense of the word) something else?

    ... maybe Greer & von Braun were correct, our worst enemy is ourselves and those like us ie. close to our current level of evolution / understanding.

    In summary: Those entities that "threaten" us, that we feel will "invade" us, are at the bottom of the pit on the evolutionary scale.
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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Quote So there seem to be several possibilities:
    •Taking over another planet (or this planet) is against some galactic law, agreement or protocol.
    •Invaders are already here, but for some reason aren't showing themselves. (Some of them may even be in human bodies: the perfect disguise.)
    •We're already someone's property, and whoever owns us won't allow anyone else to interfere (very much).
    •It already happened a long time ago... and we are them.
    •It happened a long time ago, and there was a major high-tech war, which we lost... resulting in a ceasefire and a 'Cosmic Versailles' (Joseph Farrell's thought-provoking term, presented here). *
    All the above are possible when you have been down the Rabbit hole for a while...


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    The latest sky - fy Alien invasion series is The Colony ,following hot on the heels of
    Falling skies that finished last year after 3 seasons. Following on from regular
    movies , video games and TV series about Alien invasion in some form or other.

    The time is certainly ripe for a project Blue Beam type event....

    As Carol Rosin and others have suggested for years.......

    Carol Rosin and The Last Card



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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    First I've heard of The Colony. DL'ing season 1 now. Thx much!!

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Skyline was a great flick!!

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    Quote First I've heard of The Colony. DL'ing season 1 now. Thx much!!

    Dave - Toronto
    I watched episode 10 of series 1 earlier it has a slow start
    but is building up well and has reached the first climax.
    Where it goes from here will depend if it will become
    a classic or another 1 or 2 season wonder ?

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    Default Re: So: Why hasn't Planet Earth been invaded?

    We as in the descendants of the chimps? as natural Earth derived, evolved creatures or, genetically mixed creatures, mixed with their DNA's.
    Why the mix? so they could be able to live here!
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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