The Orwellian destruction of language is happening right now

[Bill Ryan]

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Okay, here's GEORGE CARLIN on political correctness.

Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

Reading from his book, “When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops,” Carlin touches back on a topic covered in his previous work, “Brain Droppings,” and warns political correctness poses a massive threat to free speech.

“Political correctness is America’s newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people’s language with strict codes and rigid rules. I’m not sure that’s the way to fight discrimination. I’m not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.”

[Mike]

Anything with an "ist" or "ism" suffix is distinctly Orwellian in my book. It conveniently tags and labels you and puts you in a box. Makes you predictable. Removes all nuance and shades of grey.

Unpredicatability and nuance are the greatest fears of the establishment.

I'd add "democrat" and "republican" to the list as well. In America, they imply you must be one or the other. Theres an implication that there is no other way to view things except thru the lens of these 2 philosophies. Growing up in that environment, it becomes a vast intellectual limitation.

Words really are powerful. Try sorting out your thoughts without them. Dumbed down vocabulary always equals dumbed down thought.

P.s. my mother recently told me theyre doing away with cursive now as well. What a shame..

[Violet]

Just came back from a video showing Trump using the word 'political correctness' (again)...

Language changes, all the time. Latin for instance didn't just die/destruct; it evolved with a wide stretch. We (or others) adapt it to our needs (or whatever someone thinks the needs are). Even if language is forced upon us, a human is always a human, ever creative in getting his or her message across. This is our nature. We are master communicators and we have many forms of language.

And just so you can't say I didn't warn you, there are some feisty kids coming up in the new generation. Certainly enough to be worried (in a good way) Don't be fooled by what media projects as the future couch potato kid with chips for brains.

These children are here now. They're energetic, eloquent (if you listen), and have less fear of boundaries than previous, conservative, generations (which, if not enough patience applied, is sometimes mistakingly taken for rudeness). I think Ulli might even be able to link this to the Uranus generation wave thing.

So they're waiting to be believed in, and supported, so they develop themselves better and, for themselves and others a better future...We need more people who will unconditionally believe in them. And they are having a very hard time growing up in a world with seemingly little perspective (unemployment, war, wobbling economies).

Trust. When we leave, they replace. So, what are we creating? And we are a part of that, children are mirrors, and not only for their parents.

[Ernie Nemeth]

It is always up to the children, that is why the schools are run by institution (non-plural on purpose). Schooling itself is an institution, not to be confused with a place of learning. School's main purpose is to perpetuate the idea of schooling, the obvious and natural need for it. Ever see any animal being schooled? Classes are short, pertinent and interspersed with a whole lot of play. Home work is not required: what is needed to be learned is learned quickly, easily and retained for the duration.

Carlin knew the score, no doubt about that...

Calzy:

Criminal - Replaced by behaviorally challenged. This is one change that makes sense. A lot of the people in prisons today are not really "criminals" in the classic sense. Thanks to the "War on Drugs", there are a lot of people in jail because they failed to "behave" properly.

I like that much better too. Criminal just does not describe me. But I am very much challenged to behave the way society demands I do.

[Constance]

Maybe a new universal language Calz that makes it very clear to all, exactly what one is communicating and the intent behind it?

Much love to you

[Ewan]

So where did the term 'political correctness' first surface, who used it and in what context? Well frankly, your guess is as good as mine.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_correctness

The cliché term political correctness or "PC" is a snarl word usually referring to upholding a social taboo against language and attitudes that might be considered bigoted.[1] This loaded term has become a boogey-man for the right-wing, who use it to tar anything that runs contrary to their own policies, such as letting women out of the kitchen or gays out of the closet.

Ruth Perry wrote in an essay entitled A Short History of the Term "Politically Correct"[2] that the term was first coined by Mao Zedong,[3] but was later hijacked by conservative eclectics who proceeded to overuse it in exactly the manner above described, hence taking all the juice out of it.[4] (Defending oneself with it might be the most popular handwave to dismiss social criticism.) More recently, advocates of political correctness have therefore substituted the term "civilized speech" for "politically correct" in order to boost its image in light of the PC backlash.

In full irony, conservatives have also adopted political correctness widely; trying to justify censorship on the grounds that something is anti-American or anti-Christian, such as Conservapedia's insistence on BC/AD to the total exclusion of BCE/CE.

In fact, it's probably helpful to remember that in common parlance anything a conservative would consider to be polite speech isn't PC, whereas anything a liberal would consider to be polite speech is. This is why banning the "f-word" from broadcast is neutral and not PC at all, whereas banning a racial epithet from broadcast is.[5]

As above, passive-aggressive people who defend racism or reactionary views and but don't want to be labeled that way attack dissenters as "politically correct."[6]

http://blogcritics.org/origins-of-th...lly-incorrect/

The term “politically correct” is bandied about so much as to have become meaningless. But what really does it mean? Here’s a history of the term (as best I know it).

“PC” has gone through four stages of meaning. “Politically correct” was initially coined by Leon Trotsky to refer favorably to those whose views remained in sync with the ever-shifting Bolshevik Party line. This was important, as “not PC” people risked prison or death.

“Politically correct” was revived (and again, used favorably) by 1960s New Left radicals who fancied themselves revolutionaries in the mold of Che, Castro, and Mao.

“Politically correct” was first used negatively by 1980s conservatives, following the publication of Allan Bloom’s Closing of the American Mind. Conservatives embraced the term “politically incorrect” as a badge of honor to contrast their championing of free speech against campus leftists who used speech codes to suppress debate on sensitive topics. This was also when the term first became widely known by its acronym, “PC.”

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/05/28/...cally-correct/

Tune in to Fox News or flick through the Daily Mail and you’ll be assaulted with variations on the term “politically correct.” Although it has no widely agreed meaning, the context usually makes pretty clear it’s talking about liberals, often in a derogatory way (and not always completely unjustified). But this right-wing insult has its origins in the unlikeliest of places: the internal politics of the Russian Communist Party.

According to the International Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences, Kremlin advisers were the first to widely use the term. They did so without a trace of irony. Calling someone “politically correct” in Soviet Russia meant they toed the party line. A PC Kremlin insider was one who could reflect what Moscow was thinking—exactly the sort of person who would go far.

(The next one is particularly entertaining as it is from Accuracy in Academia and contains a spelling mistake in a heading note.)

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-...l-correctness/

Variations of this speech have been delivered to various AIA conferences including the 2000 Consevative University at American University

Where does all this stuff that you’ve heard about this morning – the victim feminism, the gay rights movement, the invented statistics, the rewritten history, the lies, the demands, all the rest of it – where does it come from? For the first time in our history, Americans have to be fearful of what they say, of what they write, and of what they think. They have to be afraid of using the wrong word, a word denounced as offensive or insensitive, or racist, sexist, or homophobic.

We have seen other countries, particularly in this century, where this has been the case. And we have always regarded them with a mixture of pity, and to be truthful, some amusement, because it has struck us as so strange that people would allow a situation to develop where they would be afraid of what words they used. But we now have this situation in this country. We have it primarily on college campuses, but it is spreading throughout the whole society. Were does it come from? What is it?

We call it “Political Correctness.” The name originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, and we tend still to think of it as only half-serious. In fact, it’s deadly serious. It is the great disease of our century, the disease that has left tens of millions of people dead in Europe, in Russia, in China, indeed around the world. It is the disease of ideology. PC is not funny. PC is deadly serious.

So, there we have it, now we all know where the term originated. (Sort of, vaguely, well perhaps).

Now do you know where you sit on the political spectrum. Perhaps you have a good idea and are quite comfortable wearing a label that would describe you as Leftist, Liberal or whatever. I don't, I've always been apolitical not understanding left or right or anywhere imbetween. I just didn't have any interest so never learnt I guess. Without going to look it up I literally cannot tell you which side of the fence the terms Democrat and Republican lie. I do know in the UK that traditionally Conservatives were leaning right and Labour leaning left. Though Tony Blair came along and leant so far left he fell into the right so that perhaps needs redefining.

Anyway, in an effort to determine just what I am, , I found The Political Compass.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Some of the questions were very difficult to answer, conversely some were incredible simple. But for the harder ones a 'don't know' option would have been handy. Nevertheless it transpires I am but a square or two on the grid away from Ghandi.
Henceforth you may refer to me as mahatma Ewan.



Me.


I suspect the majority of Avalon would find themselves in the lower left quadrant?

[gord]

This whole thread makes me want to browse Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary. Or a law dictionary.

added this: the word "paranoia" these days is typically used to mean "how dare anybody notice our crap." It's just another weapon. Very much Soviet Union tactics.

[Ewan]

Well I stupidly forgot to make point regarding the political spectrum above. Does the position on the graph correlate to your acceptance of these machinations. I mean, if you are top right like Thatcher do you positively revel in the opportuinty to tell someone they're politically incorrect and shut them up. Genuine question btw, as I said before I consider myself apolitical.

[Peace of Mind]

Copy and pasted from one of my earlier threads.

Could language, the English language be part of the plan for confusing the masses?
for example…We drive on the parkway and park in a drive way? lol

The more I think about the story “Tower of Babel” I can’t help but to think how much we are being duped every day. Not only does language separate the masses but it also promotes false outlooks on intellect and present disempowerment. Now, I’m no English Major but I like to think I choose my words carefully. For those that have read some of my past post may gain some understanding to why I write a certain way.

At times I feel the language itself was set up to express things in terms of lack-

EX: “How are you?” You see, this short question already implies that you might not be well. We have been tricked into using words that are disempowering. To use the Hopi Indian’s language is to understand that everything is one and inside of you, no need for looking outside of it and the language speaks of no lack…many indigenous languages have no past tense.

When speaking, you influence the field around you. Everything is vibration and words do have an impact on your life…probably way more then we know. Perhaps certain words unlock and/or lock certain abilities. In some cultures verbal sounds are more important than the actual word. This could be a clear indication of why certain ethnic groups respond in various ways to certain words/sounds/ pitches.

Sense one of my past times is producing music, I can always see how music affects people through vibration… so why not words? Sticks and stones may break bones...but words can actually kill...giving the power to do so.

Lawyers are a prime example of how the language is manipulated. They literally take your words and twist them into something else, they make fortunes doing this.
Why is there a need for having different words with the same meaning? Or having different words that sound the same but spelled differently? (do, due, to, too, two, center, centre, etc…) It not only seems like lazy, but could this be purposely created to cause mis-understanding among the masses?

I’m thinking the Alphabet was carefully crafted to use certain sounds with certain thoughts….It’s the only real understanding I have for so many of the letters to have the same sound/pitch (B,C,D,E,G,P,T,V,Z). 26 letters doesn’t make up the many sounds we can create. Maybe one day we will have a new and more meaningful, less cryptic universal language.

Animals use grunts, moans, howls, squeaks, humming and hissing to get messages across. An Elephants voice can travel through the ground and air for large distances...just like a Lion. Many of these animals communicate with the same voice. For instance, most cats sound alike and if you place 10 of them in a room you’ll probably have a hard time figuring out which one is which if you had to rely on your ears to do so.

I believe the sounds we make with our mouths are way more important than the actual word, however, there are clear signs that the words we use are also geared towards having a sense of lack in one’s life. Every day we use phrases and words that corrupt our desired manifestations. We have been disempowering ourselves in so many ways, ways that are often over looked and have brought false intellect into our lives. Below are some examples…

"I woke up on the wrong side of the bed,
go break a leg,
I’ll never get anything done,
I’m feeling tired today,
that’s driving me crazy,
what an awful day it is outside today,
I wish I knew,
I don’t have the time,
the world is such a mess,
the fighting in the Mid-East will never stop,
you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t,
better to do nothing,
I can’t do it,
I don’t know how,
It’s too difficult,


Imagine Aliens/beings from other worlds listening to us speak.
They should be having a hard time understanding us when we use phrases like: raining cats and dogs, bite the bullet, paint the town red, kick the bucket, through the grape vine, etc…

And then we have…"falling" in love? We often get hurt when we fall. Doesn't ascending in love sound more like love feels? Much of the disempowering comes from small talk. EX: “I don’t know but I will try” . When you are trying to do something, you are not doing it. You build in failure by using the word “try”.

More phrases…..

that’s the way it’s always been
that’s the way we’ve always done it
don’t make waves
don’t rock the boat
we like the old-fashioned ways
I don’t need to know anymore than I already know
If it was good enough for ________________, then it’s good enough for me
I’m not paid to make those kinds of decisions
It’s not my job
It was like that yesterday
nobody cares
let somebody else worry about it
it’s good enough for now
why change now?
this is the only way
money doesn’t grow on trees
life is hard
you can’t have everything you want
I can only do one thing at a time
it’s just not possible
I’m set in my ways
you can’t teach an old dog new tricks
I’m too old to learn something new
it’s impossible
that’s not part of my job description
let me check on it
I’ll have to get back to you
I’m not qualified to handle that
it’s out of my hands
nobody told me
why should I be the first?
your expectations are too high
I’ll do it tomorrow
they’re just lucky
they think they are so smart
they think they are better than everyone else
I don’t see the upside
I’m not a guinea pig
life is a rat race
why want more?
nobody showed me how to do it
I don’t know how to do it
we can’t afford it
do you think I’m made out of money?
someday, I’ll ___________________
one day, I’ll ____________________
it’s a waste of time
why should I do it?
what’s in it for me?
tell somebody who cares
it’s not my fault
I’m a loser
I can’t do that
it’s not my style
why change now?
it’s a waste of time
I should have known better
life’s a bitch
you can’t change the world
I’m nobody
nobody listens tome
does it really matter?
you can’t do that
what will everybody think?
don’t stir things up
leave it alone
I’m only one person
what do you expect me to do?
I can’t go along with that
don’t go out on a limb
don’t stick out in a crowd
I don’t believe in compromise
it’s not my problem
if you ignore it, it’ll go away
don’t expect me to do it
don’t count on me
it’s out of my hands
it’s beyond my control
I can’t do it all
I don’t have it in me
don’t put me in that position
don’t look up to me
why can’t you do it?
I would but _____________________
I don’t want to
whatever ……………………
today is not good for me
what is the point
why me?
you want me to do what?
what’s in it for me?
what’s the rush
God damn it
ask me if I care
don’t be stupid
it’s out of the question
there are no exceptions
that’s not my style
I’m not able to _____________________
I don’t have the skills
I’m not technically minded
I’m not smart enough
it’s not worth my time
I can’t talk in front of people
I can’t ____________________________
it’s too risky
what if I fail?
what will everyone think of me?
I’m afraid
it’s over my head
" i've been better"
" it could be worst"..
"Hell yes!!"
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Perhaps, this will help shed some awareness on our situation and put some extra power into our intentions. In the least...aid in explaining my position and approach to matters. Maybe the reason we forgot how to communicate through telepathy was a sinister plan to keep the masses divided. The "mouth" clearly shows a design for food consumption, at some point we were probably manipulated and taught to also use the mouth to do all forms of communication...with so many words, with so many languages...yet we still lack in understanding.

Peace

[gord]

I did the political compass thing around late spring 1980 and landed in the lower left quadrant and that hasn't changed.

[ceetee9]

I reely donut c thee impotense of taukin bout desrupshun on langage & policetacly coreceness. It hertz me feel ins 2 c peeps be ins so nazitz 2 eatch utterz & fitein ovR sutch tryvial & minelest thangz. Kant we's all jus git a long 1 & discust thee reely impotent thangz!?? U no, lik wat bibers gona du nex & wat teamz gona won thee fineale 4!??

Sorry Calz, I couldn't resist. I guess I'm just in a goofy mood today.

[TargeT]

Posted by rezboom (here)

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by Caliban (here)

WTF happened to this country's intellectual life? We used to blame dumbing down on the Right, now they're blaming it on the Left, since so many professors claim to be leftists.

Quite the question ... you nailed it.

The "system" has two legs: one left and one right. Because we're only looking at the feet, we don't see where the two legs are joined and that waaaaayyyy above it, there's a brain that tells the feet were to step next.

the left always assumed it was the intellectual branch when in reality it was just the informational gatekeepers (worse than what they blamed the "right" for) but this is a normal pattern, the hero turns out to be the unwitting villain... works great for divide and conquer.

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by ZooLife (here)

I have not experienced anything remotely like the examples mentioned in this video. I swear if I did I would think I fell onto a parallel universe!

I have not personally either.

But I see what is happening around me.


Don't you???

I only have seen it in large cities or dense populations.... I think too many people makes for bad general psychological health.... SJW wouldn't exist if it weren't for big cities.

[conk]

destruction of language? My head literally exploded reading this thread!

[TargeT]

Posted by Ewan (here)
Me.


I suspect the majority of Avalon would find themselves in the lower left quadrant?

I guessed I'd be lower right...

me:


Guess I've drifted far from my republican roots.. (though wtf was with all those racist questions in there? how does that have anything to do with political stand point?) I think the bias is strong with this quiz....

[TargeT]

PC, Taboo,.. sensitive audience, hurt feelings... all these completely ignore intent and leverage shame/fear to control a population...

Great discussion on the topic here & how out of control it is getting:

Honestly I feel sad to say this: warning adult language.....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I3iZyAXz9_U

[ozmirage]

Gender correctness is a non-issue used to foment dissension.
As most Americans are ignorant of language, especially English (or Inglitch), they're misled to assume that terms like "Mail man" are "sexist" and somehow demeaning to women. However, unlike other languages that have strict gender construction, English male forms INCLUDE the female by rule, not exception.
Mankind includes men and women (womb-men).
A hero can be a man or woman, but a heroine is exclusively a woman.
An actor can be a man or woman, but an actress is exclusively a woman.

In other languages – including most Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages – third-person personal pronouns (at least those used to refer to people) intrinsically distinguish male from female. This feature commonly co-exists with a full system of grammatical gender, where all nouns are assigned to classes such as masculine, feminine and neuter. However in some languages, such as English, this general system of noun gender has been lost, but gender distinctions are preserved in the third-person pronouns (the singular pronouns only).

For some "real fun" in con-langs, check out ITHKUIL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil
Some interesting info on Ithkuil and triconsonant semitic languages:
http://dedalvs.com/smileys/2008.html

[ozmirage]

Posted by Ewan (here)
I found The Political Compass.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
. . .
I suspect the majority of Avalon would find themselves in the lower left quadrant?

Ironically, such 'tests' are rigged to omit the republican form of government.

No question deals with endowed rights, powers, and liberties, or that government can only secure rights absent consent of the governed, or that American people are unconditionally sovereign.

(Sovereignty is the source of all law, hence it is anathema to anarchism. Absolute ownership of private property is anathema to collective ownership of leftists / communists. Servant status of the government voids any tyrannical tendencies. Private creation of mediums of exchange eliminate usurers (bankers) as well as the need for public charity / socialism.)

[Sophocles]

John Cleese: Political Correctness Can Lead to an Orwellian Nightmare

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QAK0KXEpF8U

[shaberon]

I went around saying for quite some time that I was politically correct and a globalist until I learned the "new definitions". Oops.

I tend to think that you should be offended, insulted, and have your feelings hurt pretty much every day. Learning how to handle that is simply called maturity. Sanitizing it prevents you from growing up.

English is not that great of a language. Can't recall if it was here, but somewhere I recently saw a theory that suggested Indo-European was spoken like poetry, and that the most mundane concepts were expressed with intellectual and spiritual values integrated into them. In this theory, language was not a series of primitive grunts that became more complex, but was an artistic celebration of life that's gotten dumber.

You can't have a peanut butter sandwich in school any more. Wonder if you're allowed to talk about them, or is that a threat?

[ozmirage]

Posted by shaberon (here)
English is not that great of a language.

It may not be "great" but it has the greatest number of words, as well as speakers.
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http://www.languagemonitor.com/numbe...guage-1008879/

http://www.lingholic.com/how-many-wo...arning-part-2/
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Due to the inclusion of so many similar terms from different languages, English is rich in shades of meaning. (Ex: shirt, blouse, tunic, skirt, kirtle, surcoat, tabard and so on) Unfortunately, it is also irregular, with phonetic rules that are made to be broken, and frustrating to learn. Plus, it has so many idiosyncrasies and idioms, it is a rich source for humor.

There have been attempts to make engineered languages that are easy to learn and create new words without ambiguity. Some are deliberately arcane and complicated.

Check out ITHKUIL, an artificial language that is unambiguous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil
Some interesting info on Ithkuil and triconsonant semitic languages:
http://dedalvs.com/smileys/2008.html