Trump/Hitler analogy

[mgray]

Here's my take on why US presidential contender Donald Trump is being compared to Adolf Hitler especially in the aftermath of the Brussels' bombings.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Nationalism is the most readily-available alternative to globalism. "Nationalism" is being thrown around by the MSM like it's a terrible thing now that Trump is promoting it in the US. If you think nationalism is terrible then just wait until they show you what globalism is like.

The best governments are the most localized governments, like your town or community councils, which the people themselves can have the most direct say in. State/national governments should be a lot more hands-off, just protecting basic rights, and reflecting the hundreds, if not thousands of miles of distance between the local community and Washington DC. But that's not as likely to develop in the near future, so nationalism is the next best thing, certainly an improvement over global governance.

[risveglio]

Posted by bsbray (here)
Nationalism is the most readily-available alternative to globalism. "Nationalism" is being thrown around by the MSM like it's a terrible thing now that Trump is promoting it in the US. If you think nationalism is terrible then just wait until they show you what globalism is like.

I think they are both terrible.

[Marikins]

Mgray your article makes an excellent case for nationalism in that it calls for an economically healthy, self-sufficient and therefor sovereign US. Decimating the US manufacturing power for the past several decades is so irresponsible as to appear deliberate.

I would say that Trump is still a worrying candidate for many reasons, but you know me, I can't stand any of 'em.

I agree with bsbray that nationalism is preferable to globalism, and local government preferable to nationalism.

[OMG]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BsNXmQQSSp0

We all have good reason to NEVER believe in any President or Political leader. That said, no one else is bringing up the controversial issues that are clearly against many of the known PTB agendas, except Trump. He's an arrogant self absorbed hot headed A-hole, but until someone can show a realistic option (since Hillary is clearly NOT that option) then who else is there? https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1053217

BTW the video below is, in part, what the Brussels President and most people in the know are referring to when complaints regarding the mass immigration of Muslims are made. It's hard science...and appears to be exactly the agenda set forth by PTB.

OBVIOUSLY ANY GENOCIDE IS WRONG!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rWp1Mf_M4bU

[Cardillac]

"patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"- attributed to U.S. founding father Patrick Henry

[WhiteLove]

Posted by mgray (here)
Here's my take on why US presidential contender Donald Trump is being compared to Adolf Hitler especially in the aftermath of the Brussels' bombings.

There is a very nationalistic rush in Trump's proposal, this is a kind of seed that is not healthy for humans on this planet. Borders, nations etc. that is all evil. And when the evil grows it becomes nazism, a form of who-extremism: you are loved, you are not loved don't come here, you are loved, you are not loved don't come here... And then this: "I am going to rebuild the nation's military and make it so strong. When you go to war, you need to do so properly". That's what Trump very recently said and one should not shut off the ears to that, considering the position these words are coming from, this is some really heavy stuff. This is not a light density vision, it is simply not.

So far with the nationalistic rush, the border, the talk about lifting the military power etc. it's a mild form of Nazism. If this is "OK", then prepare that there are more things in preparation beyond this. So it's alarming to say the least... One can only hope this right wing influence is going to fade and that a candidate with open arms is voted for by the american people. But I am in shock about the focus on immigration in the various proposals by the candidates, as if immigration somehow would block happiness and freedom from being possible. It's one big lie, that's what it is.

Speeches that contain hate are never popular and that's good. When people have become totally immune and reactionless to hate, then it's over

Trump has of course good sides too, he is quite open and honest about what he thinks, he has the will to create something better for Americans, he is also very authentic. All of this is good. But mixing this with a very strong nationalistic ideology without peace first, is very dangerous. The thing is that we know he is quite far on the right in his proposal, we just don't know how right. He does not say things like: "We have spent enough money on wars, we have created enough suffering with our military". He says things like: "When you go to war you need to do so properly." It is the beating on that old war drum...

I am so sick and tired of war, patriotism, nationalism, military, power, division, limitations, poverty, homelessness, drugs, penalties, weird laws, lies, deception, violence, hate, surveillance, corruption, suffering... all that junk that is like poison to the soul.

We need to come together as one people that is a real re-connected and free people that want happiness globally and collectively once and for all.

Peace, that is not a state of a stable military climate. It is an emotion, it is a deep, deep, extremely wonderful emotion. I know this because I have experienced it. (in a fourth density reality)

[TargeT]

Posted by risveglio (here)

Posted by bsbray (here)
Nationalism is the most readily-available alternative to globalism. "Nationalism" is being thrown around by the MSM like it's a terrible thing now that Trump is promoting it in the US. If you think nationalism is terrible then just wait until they show you what globalism is like.

I think they are both terrible.

Nationalism is closer to tribalism, which is where we naturally bound ourselves before centralization, consolidation, agricultural practices... all of them are very aggressive and always scarcity focused, but they kept us around for this long (and seemingly in ever broader groupings) maybe this is how you shed nationalism?

what if all of this stuff was going to happen anyway, it's just being preempted by people who KNOW where the train is headed and have simply nudged or guided it to their greatest benefit; and have been for millennia.

[Cidersomerset]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7DcrmnRijTQ

[ljwheat]

look up the 100 year war,, on the genocide on the american Indian, so i guess the way ay all see it,, we might as well board the iron horse and head to the fema camps made for all us sheeple ... I will take freedom or death thank you.. and take no name's ... the human race is sick, and all are in denial..

[Cidersomerset]

DARTH TRUMP - Auralnauts

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KU_Jdts5rL0

[Althena]

Posted by Cardillac (here)
"patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"- attributed to U.S. founding father Patrick Henry

I think the saying goes: Prayer is the last refuge of the scoundrel"

[T Smith]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)

There is a very nationalistic rush in Trump's proposal, this is a kind of seed that is not healthy for humans on this planet. Borders, nations etc. that is all evil. And when the evil grows it becomes nazism, a form of who-extremism: you are loved, you are not loved don't come here, you are loved, you are not loved don't come here...

There is a clear distinction between nationalism and xenophobia, although neofascist globalists, with a clear agenda, are very adept at interchanging these concepts to mean the same thing. This is a highly manipulative mind-control technique that is nearly psychologically impossible to defend against. It renders well-meaning humanists feckless against, and even useful agents for the roll-out of a global totalitarian neo-feudal order.

Posted by WhiteLove (here)

Speeches that contain hate are never popular and that's good. When people have become totally immune and reactionless to hate, then it's over

Agreed. I am concerned about this. But I'm not convinced a nationalist message is necessarily hateful. Again, who says this (besides social-engineering propagandists)? Xenophobia is hateful, nationalism is not. Xenophobia = you and your kind are not welcome here. This is low, fearful, vibrational energy. It's not even hate, really. It's fear.

Nationalism = integration into our culture, customs, and traditions--including our concept of inalienable human rights that we have spilt blood for--is open by rite, if you are so inclined, but not necessarily by default, as our way of life is valuable to us and we will protect our way of life against hostile forces.

Of course most people will not be able to discern between hostile "forces" and hostile "people of other race/creeds/and colors", which is problematic. But again, these are vastly different things. Once we fall prey to interchanging the two, it becomes psychologically impossible to defend against the true hostile forces, the modus operandi of which is to conquer, control, and cull.

Posted by WhiteLove (here)

He does not say things like: "We have spent enough money on wars, we have created enough suffering with our military". He says things like: "When you go to war you need to do so properly." It is the beating on that old war drum...

My intent here is not to stump for Trump... I have my own opinions/concerns regarding the pros vs. cons of a successful political insurgence led by Donald Trump; that aside, I will correct you. You are not entirely correct in your assessment. Consider the quote below, from Donald Trump:

"...We've spent $4 trillion trying to topple various people," Trump said. "If we could've spent that $4 trillion in the United States to fix our roads, our bridges and all of the other problems -- our airports and all of the other problems we've had -- we would've been a lot better off. I can tell you that right now." Donald J. Trump, December 16, 2015

[bennycog]

To me it sounds like it takes a lot of nationalist groups to create a democratic society

[mgray]

I am neither defending or ridiculing Trump. I stand by the line in the post:

There is not much common ground between the ultra conservative Koch brothers and the ultra liberal financier George Soros politically but when they both agree a Trump presidency is the worse thing that can happen for their agendas, you know he is riling up the globalists.

For me, this is a distinction I can see merit in.

If both these groups see his nationalistic bent as being destructive it is probably good for humankind.

[LivioRazlo]

Boswell tells us that Samuel Johnson made this famous pronouncement that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel on the evening of April 7, 1775. He doesn't provide any context for how the remark arose, so we don't really know for sure what was on Johnson's mind at the time.

However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.

I found this information here if any of you would like to vet this further.