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    Default Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    The timing of this is...odd.
    Why would those who benefit most from illegal drugs let them go...there are no "wildcards" allowed in this game. Most of us know the origin of the drug trade and the players...and the communities most targeted by them. Many G10 countries are decriminalizing marijuana, is it a sign of financial desperation by governments or something more?


    A commission, set up by the Lancet medical journal and Johns Hopkins University in the United States, finds that tough drugs laws have caused misery, failed to curb drug use, fuelled violent crime and spread the epidemics of HIV and hepatitis C through unsafe injecting."

    Lancet Journal article ( Free, but requires registration)

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...619-X/abstract
    Newspaper Article ( no paywall)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/24/medical-experts-call-for-global-drug-decriminalisation






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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    Maybe the "players" behind the drug trade would like to speed up the disintegration of society. Legal or illegal, they still make money. Legalizing drugs adds up to more customers?
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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    Will never be able to legislate morality, and there will always be teetotalers....
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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    I don't know the timing of it, but it seems a good idea to decriminalize drugs. The War on Drugs has created a situation where young males are sent to jail for carrying personal amounts and wars (Afghanistan) have been staged to protect Drug Dealer Numero Uno's (US Bush) stock.

    If you are worried about the disintegration of society, look to:
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    • programming
    • soulless society and 'culture'
    • disconnection from the earth
    • physical body compromised by chemtrails, fluoridated water, microwaves and ELF, and bad food
    • subsidized alcohol on Indian reservations
    • removing children from homes to institutions
    • Western material/industrial mindset

    Drugs are more a symptom than a cause, from what I have seen. The super addictive substances should be discouraged, I totally agree, but I feel lost souls turn to them when the insanity here is too great and they have no foundation and no resources within themselves.

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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    It's nothing particularly new, virtually the same statements have cropped up from universities/medical/criminal studies for years, just another chip in the ol' pile of tiddlywinks. Portugal seems to have taken the bait on that one and the country did not OD.

    Why we would sit around and idolize Richard Nixon's policies for more than about thee minutes is beyond me.

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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    George Soros had an interesting campaign launched short while ago for decriminalization of drugs.

    I'm not against it, per say, there are extreme potential benefits to that, but it really depends on the way you do it, the details of it, the how, and who is behind it and why. I'm not happy that good ol' George is pushing this, even less when I hear something like this about the pharmaceutical companies, medical journals and experts, etc... Something's cooking in Hell's Kitchen.
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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    Quote Posted by cursichella1 (here)
    Maybe the "players" behind the drug trade would like to speed up the disintegration of society. Legal or illegal, they still make money. Legalizing drugs adds up to more customers?


    I agree, I do not think they have our best interest at heart.
    In my mind and according to my own rationale this would be a good idea, but I've seen time and time again that people are far more susceptible to being their own greatest enemy.

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    Quote Posted by cursichella1 (here)
    Maybe the "players" behind the drug trade would like to speed up the disintegration of society. Legal or illegal, they still make money. Legalizing drugs adds up to more customers?
    Not really. If society disintegrates, that also bodes bad for the government as well, it's not in it's interest to collapse society to dust. When they look the other way or support certain questionable acts, they do so because they have no choice, whether it's big corporations, banks, pharmaceutical companies, drug cartels etc. - these in turn, need a pretty face up front to keep population in some kind of order. A disintegrated society is not exactly an orderly society. So no, the drug cartels won't be making more money, not if the government regulates the drugs. Politics is business, and business is politics nowadays, governments have to keep some aspects under control to be viable, otherwise people will abolish the need for a government.

    Take the latest statistics in the legalization of marijuana, not just medicinally, but for pleasure/recreational purposes as well - Just by legalizing that in 4 states out of 50 in the US, the marijuana/cannabis black market have nearly lost double the profits they make, especially symptomatic in Mexico, which most people already know that the governments there work together with the cartels and that they have a strong trade with the US, but at least now it's confirmed in the public domain as a sort of fact, tested by the statistics. If all 50 states legalize it, I'm sure that would crush the black market there and in Mexico too. And I understand why this is so - why buy from a dealer, illegally, when you can buy it from the same place that you buy aspirin, with tested quality of the product, available any time, the government is off your back as it's legal and you get it from a legal public service place, the government can keep track how much you take/buy, and keep a leash if you exaggerate to prevent you from ODing etc. (if we talk about heavier drugs, not just marijuana)

    As far as cannabis goes, there at least 36 other potential uses/implementations in varied aspects of society other than pleasure and medicine. Which is 36 more reasons it needs to be legalized.

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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    The timing of this is...odd.
    Why would those who benefit most from illegal drugs let them go..
    Doctors do not directly benefit from drugs being illegal & do not understand "plant medicine" or think it's like homeopahty & do not see it as a threat at all to their practice. Besides, if illegal drugs are medicine, they would just have more in their arsenal, the medical profession seems like a great fit for supporting the end of hte war on drugs.


    Quote Posted by cursichella1 (here)
    Maybe the "players" behind the drug trade would like to speed up the disintegration of society. Legal or illegal, they still make money. Legalizing drugs adds up to more customers?
    Keeping drugs illegal does a better job of this, as we have decades of proof (you can "before and after" it pretty easily in recent history).


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    Nor should you ever try, as morality does not have a set definition and would be better called "stuff I like"



    Quote Posted by Marikins (here)
    The super addictive substances should be discouraged, I totally agree, but I feel lost souls turn to them when the insanity here is too great and they have no foundation and no resources within themselves.
    There are no super addictive drugs... there are some that you CAN become physically dependent on.... Addiction is a mental issue (this is why people are addicted to nearly anything in the world.. gambling, sex, drugs, alcohol, porn, working, sleeping you name it, there's an addiction support group for it...)


    Quote Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
    George Soros had an interesting campaign launched short while ago for decriminalization of drugs.
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    Default Re: Medical experts call for global drug decriminalisation ? But WHY?

    I'm of the opinion that Dr. John Coleman knew what he was talking about in 1993 when he published his book "21 Goals of the Illuminate and the Committee of 300". Points 5 and 6 are of particular interest here.
    Quote Unemployables in the US, in the wake of industrial destruction, will either become opium-heroin and/or cocaine addicts, or become statistics in the elimination of the "excess population" process we know of today as Global 2000.
    6. To encourage, and eventually legalize the use of drugs and make pornography an "art-form", which will be widely accepted and, eventually, become quite commonplace.


    21 Goals of the Illuminati and The Committee of 300

    By Dr. John Coleman.(Written ca. 1993)
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/johnc...nati.shtml#top
    21 Goals of the Illuminati and The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman (ca. 1993)

    F rom: Conspirators' Hierachy: The Story of The Committee of 300
    1. To establish a One World Government/New World Order with a unified church and monetary system under their direction. The One World Government began to set up its church in the 1920:s and 30:s, for they realized the need for a religious belief inherent in mankind must have an outlet and, therefore, set up a "church" body to channel that belief in the direction they desired.
    2. To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride, which was a primary consideration if the concept of a One World Government was to work.
    3. To engineer and bring about the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion, with the one exception, their own creation, as mentioned above.
    4. To establish the ability to control of each and every person through means of mind control and what Zbignew Brzezinski called techonotronics, which would create human-like robots and a system of terror which would make Felix Dzerzinhski's Red Terror look like children at play.
    5. To bring about the end to all industrialization and to end the production of nuclear generated electric power in what they call "the post-industrial zero-growth society". Excepted are the computer- and service industries. US industries that remain will be exported to countries such as Mexico where abundant slave labor is available. As we saw in 1993, this has become a fact through the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, known as NAFTA. Unemployables in the US, in the wake of industrial destruction, will either become opium-heroin and/or cocaine addicts, or become statistics in the elimination of the "excess population" process we know of today as Global 2000.
    6. To encourage, and eventually legalize the use of drugs and make pornography an "art-form", which will be widely accepted and, eventually, become quite commonplace.
    7. To bring about depopulation of large cities according to the trial run carried out by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. It is interesting to note that Pol Pot's genocidal plans were drawn up in the US by one of the Club of Rome's research foundations, and overseen by Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official. It is also interesting that the committee is currently seeking to reinstate the Pol Pot butchers in Cambodia.
    8. To suppress all scientific development except for those deemed beneficial by the Illuminati. Especially targeted is nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Particularly hated are the fusion experiments currently being scorned and ridiculed by the Illuminati and its jackals of the press. Development of the fusion torch would blow the Illuminati's conception of "limited natural resources" right out of the window. A fusion torch, properly used, could create unlimited and as yet untapped natural resources, even from the most ordinary substances. Fusion torch uses are legion, and would benefit mankind in a manner which, as yet, is not even remotely comprehended by the public.
    9. To cause. by means of A) limited wars in the advanced countries, B) by means of starvation and diseases in the Third World countries, the death of three billion people by the year 2050, people they call "useless eaters". The Committee of 300 (Illuminati) commissioned Cyrus Vance to write a paper on this subject of how to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title "Global 2000 Report" and was accepted and approved for action by former President James Earl Carter, and Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of States, for and on behalf of the US Government. Under the terms of the Global 2000 Report, the population of the US is to be reduced by 100 million by the year of 2050.
    10. To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, the report envisages demoralized and discouraged workers resorting to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard, the Committee commissioned Tavistock Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as the "Aquarian Conspiracy".
    11. To keep people everywhere from deciding their own destinies by means of one created crisis after another and then "managing" such crises. This will confuse and demoralize the population to the extent where faced with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result. In the case of the US, an agency for Crisis Management is already in place. It is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), whose existence I first enclosed in 1980.
    12. To introduce new cults and continue to boost those already functioning which include rock music gangsters such as the Rolling Stones (a gangster group much favored by European Black Nobility), and all of the Tavistock-created rock groups which began with the Beatles.
    13. To continue to build up the cult of Christian Fundamentalism begun by the British East India Company's servant Darby, which will be misused to strengthen the Zionist State of Israel by identifying with the Jews through the myth of "God's chosen people", and by donating very substantial amounts of money to what they mistakenly believe is a religious cause in the furtherance of Christianity.
    14. To press for the spread of religious cults such as the Moslem Brotherhood, Moslem Fundamentalism, the Sikhs, and to carry out mind control experiments of the Jim Jones and "Son of Sam" type. It is worth noting that the late Khomeini was a creation of British Military Intelligence Div. 6, MI6. This detailed work spelled out the step-by-step process which the US Government implemented to put Khomeini in power.
    15. To export "religious liberation" ideas around the world so as to undermine all existing religions, but more especially the Christian religion. This began with the "Jesuit Liberation Theology", that brought an end to the Somoza Family rule in Nicaragua, and which today is destroying El Salvador, now 25 years into a "civil war". Costa Rica and Honduras are also embroiled in revolutionary activities, instigated by the Jesuits. One very active entity engaged in the so-called liberation theology, is the Communist-oriented Mary Knoll Mission. This accounts for the extensive media attention to the murder of four of Mary Knoll's so-called nuns in El Salvador a few years ago. The four nuns were Communist subversive agents and their activities were widely documented by the Government of El Salvador. The US press and the new media refused to give any space or coverage to the mass of documentation possessed by the Salvadorian Government, which proved what the Mary Knoll Mission nuns were doing in the country. Mary Knoll is in service in many countries, and placed a leading role in bringing Communism to Rhodesia, Moçambique, Angola and South Africa.
    16. To cause a total collapse of the world's economies and engender total political chaos.
    17. To take control of all foreign and domestic policies of the US.
    18. To give the fullest support to supranational institutions such as the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank of International Settlements, the World Court and, as far as possible, make local institutions less effective, by gradually phasing them out or bringing them under the mantle of the UN.
    19. To penetrate and subvert all governments, and work from within them to destroy the sovereign integrity of the nations represented by them.
    20. To organize a world-wide terrorist apparatus [Al-queda, ISIS, ISIL, etc.] and to negotiate with terrorists whenever terrorist activities take place. It will be recalled that it was Bettino Craxi, who persuaded the Italian and US Governments to negotiate with the Red Brigades kidnapers of Prime Minister Moro and General Dozier. As an aside, Dozier was placed under strict orders not to talk what happened to him. Should he ever break that silence, he will no doubt be made "a horrible example of", in the manner in which Henry Kissinger dealt with Aldo Moro, Ali Bhutto and General Zia ul Haq.
    21. To take control of education in America with the intent and purpose of utterly and completely destroying it. By 1993, the full force effect of this policy is becoming apparent, and will be even more destructive as primary and secondary schools begin to teach "Outcome Based Education" (OBE).

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