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    i have heard alot of stuff about New World Order but never into it or look at it, this popup in my head day before straight after panama Paper event. all the stuff on mainstream media coming out isn't surprise to us with corruption but Why Now? why it became huge topic on mainstream media? so many stuff happening right now..


    this morning look through news feed and there's a attacking on welfare recipient which many of Australian lable them Dole Bludger but the response was huge raising Corporate welfare and panama papers to reject that idea.

    I got a feeling that they pushing for New System(new world order,socialism..what ever you want to call it or describe it), enable new system to emerge then old system must collapse and to do that must have campaign to destroy it. this is problem-reaction and solution which is a new system.


    2016 is freaking really weird year...we have a glimbs of future technology like in sci-fi movies, beside that so many stuff is going on. i find it Problem-Reaction and Solution happen right now.

    right now is better to think a solution or have an idea what the world we want to live on not what the world elites want us the mass population to be live on...
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    The United States is losing power and influence.

    It's economy of high production of quality goods has been replaced by paper that is worth negative trillions.

    It's scenario of confrontation versus a modernized capable opponent is utter annihilation.

    From here it looks like a very different ride than its 20th century crescendo.

    Edit: one more screaming example is that approximately thirty-nine of the exploited African countries have said they would rather do business with the Chinese than the I. M. F. because: you get better rates, and they don't try to tell you how to run your country.

    Some of it is the Same Old Order, but the part about it working through some kind of American unipolar dominance is blowing away.
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    Hello Everyone:

    I believe the nwo is already here and has been here for quite some time! Many people have spoke about what the nwo order is and will be but I believe it runs perfectly in our society now.

    Yes, the nwo in my opinion is "olitcal correctness". There's not any place to hide from political correctness. Everyday it's in each person's life, work, dealings with people, families etc.

    We don't even know we're using political correctness because we have been trained in it from birth.

    If you deviate from political correctness you are a bad person or you are a terrorist or worse yet a hater of people and values.

    What is political correctness?

    It's always agreeing and never saying "NO"
    It's always holding back the frustration and accepting the governments way instead of disagreeing when it's wrong.
    We as people are making life easy for the nwo since we are progressing the nwo without even realising we're doing it.

    Just think of the last time you said "NO" to rediculous laws and common sense. Remember if you do you're not part of the community or family or country.

    The nwo is a perfect plan of the people perputuating it.

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    Quote Apokalypse said:

    i have heard alot of stuff about New World Order but never into it or look at it
    If you want some more info on the nwo etc, there is some info at this link that you night find interesting

    https://endalltyranny.wordpress.com/...world-order-2/


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    When illusion trumps reality, insanity rules.

    The reality is based on population, whose labor is amplified by tools and machines, to generate the goods and services that support civilization.
    Unfortunately, most are enraptured by money madness, and seek "wealth" by any means, fair or foul.

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    NWO I think not (hope not). It seems TPTB may have their backs up against the wall and are time limited and therefore have to push there agenda at super speeds. (See David Ickes latest documentaries about there plans for humanity).

    Why:
    - According to Simon Parkes the reptilian overlords have left there minions to their own devices, as they are to be busy trying to get of planet before the coming changes.
    - As Simon Parkes alluded to the baddies, without blood on their hands, might be jumping ship to join the winning team. Whilst the baddies with blood on their hands would be fighting even harder and faster to push out their agenda.
    - According to Mary Rodwell we have indigo children which number something like 150,000 worldwide affecting positive change.
    - Some type of energy will be affecting humanity in 2017 and thereafter, which will initially raise everyone BS Meter to the extent that will make it impossible to lie to another person. Good.

    Hence in part the mad rush to get everyone vacinated. I suppose either to neutralise indigo children, kill off the over 40 year useless eaters like yours truely, and to make everyone else into Borg. (TPTB only need 500,000,000 useless eaters according to Georgia Guide Stones).
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    I think i have to agree with your words. I also believe that they do their very best to keep us distracted from what they are really trying to achieve.

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    Quote Posted by ponda (here)
    Quote Apokalypse said:

    i have heard alot of stuff about New World Order but never into it or look at it
    If you want some more info on the nwo etc, there is some info at this link that you night find interesting

    https://endalltyranny.wordpress.com/...world-order-2/


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    Hi Ponda,

    What a shame that the writer of your source points toward Helena Blavatski, Alice Bailey and others as being part of an evil plot to bring about a Fascist, totalitarian, one world government.

    Any one who makes such claims has either failed to understand their writings, not read it at all, or is flat out lying.

    Yes, unity, equality, brotherhood and freedom is what they promote, but by no means under the rule of an oppressive one world government.
    There are even many warnings in their writings about forces of evil who would promote oneness and unity as a disguise for "service to self".

    This is a quote from Laurency. An esoteric writer who teaches the same facts as Bailey, whom I'm more familiar with:

    page 18:
    "The talk about a “world state” and “world government” is one of the countless ways the tools of the black ones use to stupidize people with a view to driving them into slavery. It has never entered into the plan of the planetary hierarchy that there should be a world government but rather a league of nations, a brotherhood of nations based upon mutuality regarding needs, understanding, and aid. A superorganization of states into one single world empire, demanding its special unity, would counteract evolution. Every race, every nation is a unity and has its particular purpose, its contribution to make to the common development. This presupposes that the whole takes precedence to the part; the weal of humanity, to that of the nation. This presupposes further that there is general freedom for all within the limits set by the laws of nature and of life, freedom in relations between the states. A larger contribution by some nation does not give it the right to speak
    about superiority. The law of freedom is valid for both nations and individuals. The essential and common is the understanding of the meaning and goal of life. "


    http://laurency.com/L5e/L5e23.pdf
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    Hi Eram,


    The link that you refer to is a very broad overview of the nwo etc so i am not surprised that there are parts of it that some people do not agree with etc.

    In my honest opinion a World government could be a good thing BUT as we are constantly made aware of the people who are in power at the moment are corrupt.The systems of control are corrupt/flawed and have been designed to be this way imho.There must be a deeper reason why this is so.I don't think that it is a coincidence.I think that as time goes by, a deeper awareness of the reasons why the world is the way it is will emerge into the global consciousness and this could bring about positive change.
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    What a shame that the writer of your source points toward Helena Blavatski, Alice Bailey and others as being part of an evil plot to bring about a Fascist, totalitarian, one world government.

    Any one who makes such claims has either failed to understand their writings, not read it at all, or is flat out lying.
    Alice Bailey is the modern repetition of the Jesuit infiltration of Masonry in the 1700s.

    Madame Blavatsky plainly stated that one of the most dangerous groups towards humanity was the Jesuits who had been running a plot to achieve world domination over an ignorant, passive population for centuries.

    Alice Bailey falls totally silent in this regard. Her material has nothing to do with ancient wisdom and is an innovation--an inflation of C. W. Leadbeater. Her organization and people are totally intertwined with the U. N.

    This very important distinction was raised about as soon as Mrs. Bailey started coming out with stuff: http://yro.narod.ru/zaschitim/antiba...occultism.html

    And can be further seen in terms of Jesuitry: http://www.global-theosophy.net/AAB-dangerous.php
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    What a shame that the writer of your source points toward Helena Blavatski, Alice Bailey and others as being part of an evil plot to bring about a Fascist, totalitarian, one world government.

    Any one who makes such claims has either failed to understand their writings, not read it at all, or is flat out lying.
    Alice Bailey is the modern repetition of the Jesuit infiltration of Masonry in the 1700s.

    Madame Blavatsky plainly stated that one of the most dangerous groups towards humanity was the Jesuits who had been running a plot to achieve world domination over an ignorant, passive population for centuries.

    Alice Bailey falls totally silent in this regard. Her material has nothing to do with ancient wisdom and is an innovation--an inflation of C. W. Leadbeater. Her organization and people are totally intertwined with the U. N.

    This very important distinction was raised about as soon as Mrs. Bailey started coming out with stuff: http://yro.narod.ru/zaschitim/antiba...occultism.html

    And can be further seen in terms of Jesuitry: http://www.global-theosophy.net/AAB-dangerous.php
    Hi shaberon,

    To the best of my understanding, the people who provoke wars, manipulate the money system, engage in lawmaking to enslave humanity and other acts to bring about an oppressive totalitarian regime, all have one thing in common.
    They are completely and utterly focused on "service to self".

    If you study the esoteric works of Blavatski, Bailey, Besant, Laurency, Leadbeater and others, they also have an important thing in common. They all point towards a lifestyle of "service to all".

    Sifting through the works of Blavatski and Bailey with a magnifying glass in an attempt to find contradictions and differences, like the writers in the two links you provided have done, will only result in divisiveness.
    They cast the label of evil where there is none.

    You can study their works yourself, to come to your own conclusions, or you can choose to rely on the judgment of the voice of authority from others.
    I think that the first option is your best bet.
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    "Just think of the last time you said "NO" to rediculous laws and common sense."

    Just 2 hours ago when I signed a petition and it started in 04.

    The movement of the 99%
    WE started on the bottom, now we here.
    Before the lies were told, we had the whole thing clear.
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    The slight of hand and shiny object stuff are their mo.

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    i was wondering what's their plan having a system in place for the future in 21st Century with Advance Technologies like in those Science-Fiction movies/tv show we have seen...currently i consider ll of the event happening and the stuff coming out on mainstream media(which isn't surprise to non-mainstream) nothing more than Problem-solution-reaction.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwedA8do0cU
    The first second - the very first second - the back of the jacket. This came out in 1985. If you wish please listen to the lyrics to this song. If not, no problem. Move on. Nothing to see here.

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    WEEZER,

    Here's one right back at ya;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHGm49hhOmw

    it's just a girl, but she has the quotes from rockefellers book and other examples. I like the one with aaron russo, but found this 1st.

    I have yet to read the lyrics from madonna, never knew about the pyramid thing in the vid til today, thanks!

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    To the best of my understanding, the people who provoke wars, manipulate the money system, engage in lawmaking to enslave humanity and other acts to bring about an oppressive totalitarian regime, all have one thing in common.
    They are completely and utterly focused on "service to self".

    If you study the esoteric works of Blavatski, Bailey, Besant, Laurency, Leadbeater and others, they also have an important thing in common. They all point towards a lifestyle of "service to all".

    Sifting through the works of Blavatski and Bailey with a magnifying glass in an attempt to find contradictions and differences, like the writers in the two links you provided have done, will only result in divisiveness.
    They cast the label of evil where there is none.

    You can study their works yourself, to come to your own conclusions, or you can choose to rely on the judgment of the voice of authority from others.
    I think that the first option is your best bet.
    I have only managed to find others who reached the same conclusion as I did.

    It is plain to find that Ledbeater and Bailey utilize a broad appeal to orthodox religions to "prepare for the World Teacher". Ledbeater personally wrecked the life of one Krishnamurti who would only say later that he was "a very evil man". The "World Teacher" movement of whatever kind has no basis from the original T. S.--which stated that nothing further of its teaching would be given for 100 years--if then.

    In this way, the Theosophical movement--same as with Masonry, and most of the religions--was supplanted by intrigue artists and replaced by something completely different. There is a division, an ancient and mortal one.

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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)

    To the best of my understanding, the people who provoke wars, manipulate the money system, engage in lawmaking to enslave humanity and other acts to bring about an oppressive totalitarian regime, all have one thing in common.
    They are completely and utterly focused on "service to self".

    If you study the esoteric works of Blavatski, Bailey, Besant, Laurency, Leadbeater and others, they also have an important thing in common. They all point towards a lifestyle of "service to all".

    Sifting through the works of Blavatski and Bailey with a magnifying glass in an attempt to find contradictions and differences, like the writers in the two links you provided have done, will only result in divisiveness.
    They cast the label of evil where there is none.

    You can study their works yourself, to come to your own conclusions, or you can choose to rely on the judgment of the voice of authority from others.
    I think that the first option is your best bet.
    I have only managed to find others who reached the same conclusion as I did.

    It is plain to find that Ledbeater and Bailey utilize a broad appeal to orthodox religions to "prepare for the World Teacher". Ledbeater personally wrecked the life of one Krishnamurti who would only say later that he was "a very evil man". The "World Teacher" movement of whatever kind has no basis from the original T. S.--which stated that nothing further of its teaching would be given for 100 years--if then.

    In this way, the Theosophical movement--same as with Masonry, and most of the religions--was supplanted by intrigue artists and replaced by something completely different. There is a division, an ancient and mortal one.
    There seems to be a force of division at work alright, but it isn't in the works & actions by Leadbeater, Bailey and others, but in the people who twist, take things out of context, and make empty accusations.
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    There seems to be a force of division at work alright, but it isn't in the works & actions by Leadbeater, Bailey and others, but in the people who twist, take things out of context, and make empty accusations.
    This is what I thought for a number of years, that all this material that was coming out was the next, new iteration of the astounding insights of wonderful people. At some point I "smelled a rat", and started finding the issues and holes which are--evident from the authors' material itself. With the advent of internet, the writings of a few other people have only helped supply details about it.

    Ms. Besant was not really a leader of any of it; she had a gift for public speaking. In her early days, she was part of the Fabian Society. Originally, this was aimed at improving the conditions of the British working class--largest filthy rich empire the world ever saw, and most of its people were wretched. A few years down the road, that became a mere facade for a gang that directed it into a platform for One World Government.

    The Ledbeater faction decided they needed new books, a new organization, a World Teacher--they paved over the original T. S. replacing it with something else. Enter Mrs. Bailey who decided they needed at least nineteen new books. Her connection to ancient wisdom is mostly a fairly modern blend of astrology, Rosicrucianism, and British Masonry. She heavily appealed to modern, orthodox religions in an Evangelical way, strongly relying on the New Testament.

    The original T. S. dissects the New Testament and orthodox religion. It never attempts to comfort them, or to impose a World Teacher drawn according to their prophecies. It relies on ancient wisdom, once common to all cultures until wiped out by the church, and exposes the Jesuits for mental poisoning and political intrigue. This is what it's about, and it is not to be found in the many volumes of Mrs. Bailey, which are mostly filled with cycles of rays, the emergence of Masters, appeals to God, and similar things that were nowhere to be found in, and in most cases opposed to, the source she claims to be the next iteration of.

    On a comparison basis, the material is not the same thing at all. I can only surmise that it appears to be a collusion of Jesuit theologians and Fabian social engineers--you have someone actively plotting for One World Government who is deeply tied to the U. N., placing the audience into a rather passive state, anticipating that their prayers and imminent Masters are going to shut down the world's problems. The original World Teacher (Krishnamurti) not only walked out of the role imposed upon him, he said that Ledbeater was "a very evil man"--is it an empty accusation to say, "Anglican pedophile variety"?

    This is against my personal preferences, I wished that something like Mrs. Bailey and the Masters were what we had wanted. Unfortunately, that teaching bears out as an utter innovation, and totally dovetails into the Fabian One World Government ploy, which was attempted through the U. N. and often described as New World Order.

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    In this way, the Theosophical movement--same as with Masonry, and most of the religions--was supplanted by intrigue artists and replaced by something completely different. There is a division, an ancient and mortal one.
    These things all seem to get hijacked and driven into the ditch as soon as possible.
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