triquetra

[Scottoz]

The only surefire way is just by exhibiting the signature vibration... but if it cannot be recognized. There must be some other way.

ScottOz, why is it that you feel you need to know about these things, and that they are legitimate? You did come over from the remote viewing forum as well?

Thanks Triquetra

Yep, you are giving me lots of Ah Ah moments, even though I don't understand all of the concepts that are discussed or maybe not with the same depth that you have after experiencing 5d.

I guess you are right, I have had a number of unusual experiences with OBEs, recollections of lives I have not led, lucid dreams, unusual coincidences, strange dreaming connections with other people when asleep etc over the years, so I suppose these experiences do relate to the 4d and 5d realms.

I did have the suspicion that our dream states had a relationship to 4d and 5d, but was not a hundred percent sure.

I understand that it is challenging to try to make people understand what you have seen and experienced through words, but for the moment there is no other way. I guess we have to build the bridge to 5d by making enough people understand that it is possible to get there and what it will be like and if enough people get it, we will be in a position to walk off into a different 5d world when the time comes.

I have seen a different world shortly before falling asleep, one that is cleaner, with more vivid colours, unpolluted and filled with more beautiful landscapes and I can move quite easily through it with my mind. So maybe this is the sort of the 5d world that has been made for us to experience?

I don't really have any doubts about the legitimacy of the 3d, 4d and 5d dimensions and our need to build a bridge from 3d to 5d and the topics discussed. It is apparent to me that this 3d world is broken beyond repair anyway.

My questions and interest in the topics are more linked to trying to fill in my gaps in understanding to have a more complete roadmap of the realms outside of 3d and how everything came to be in this creation and how the other dimensions affect and relate to this one and ultimately what we need to do to transition into 5d. I can feel the truth in your concepts and the same goes for what I learned through the RI/RV course that Gerald teaches too. I have been doing this more regularly now over the past 6 months too.

Hopefully my questions and your responses are also helping others too who are trying to wrap their minds around things, so they can have their own Ah Ah moments, as I still feel I am coming at things from a pretty basic level of understanding.

I can tell from your signature vibration that your message is true and it is something I want to be a part over the coming years. I came over from the remote viewing forum, I still go there occasionally, but there is not much activity any more, but there are lot of older posts are really good. I still do the RV/RI course regularly

It is perhaps true that people would fear giving up some part of themselves for the collective consciousness. But this is not how it works. There is so much consensus in understanding reality, that hybrid individual/collective consciousness is totally more than the sum of its parts.

We keep all of our individual consciousness but benefit from having access to the vast information stores of the collective consciousness.

It sounds like this is comparable to the jump we made when the internet first became available, we kind of have access to all of this information in the world and a higher degree of connectivity to everyone, but we still are our own persons too. Kind of sounds like we will have access to a spiritual internet soon. I wont be sad to see the end of Facebook.


Cheers

Scott

[triquetra]

Thanks Scott. If people didn't know better, they might think it was one person having a conversation with themselves for the sake of keeping a thread active.

In fact, this is not true. But on the other hand, there are all the signs of definite progress in the direction I speak of. A foundation for the establishment of trust towards the communications of another (channeled, from them, or somewhere on the gray scale in between the two). Something based on vibrational certainty rather than speculation (we cannot quantify exactly the difference between feeling we might resonate with something vs getting strong congruently harmonic vibrations from a communication of another, but as long as we realize the notion there is a difference, it should be enough).

But there seems to be one additional ingredient that might otherwise be missing - whatever is the tool needed to gain the above. I think it may have to do with basic psychonautics, i.e. how to hold one's brainwaves in the lowered state where these types of evaluations can be done.

This is the problem with the fear state - the higher panicked (fight or flight) brainwaves are caused by fear owing to too much untempered intake of dissonant vibrations from the world around us - whether that be from issues relating to basic survival (I have heard Avalon members claiming this as their issue to studying the topics we are discussing more easily), issues relating to the dark reasons why things are the way they are (additional details provided in this thread should settle the matter on this in as little detail as necessary, as we should really just accept the situation as it stands and move on to what we can do about things rather than dwelling on the negatives forever), etc.

So what we have been provided in the training system (and I am sure there are many other systems that provide this), is a stabilization mechanism - a way of safeguarding the "normalness" of the brainwave contours over the 24 hour cycle. I have been studying this for years with the intention of providing direct assistance to go hand in hand with the kinds of theory and practice discussions that will accumulate in this thread.

You are fundamentally asking "My questions and interest in the topics are more linked to trying to fill in my gaps in understanding to have a more complete roadmap of the realms outside of 3d and how everything came to be in this creation and how the other dimensions affect and relate to this one and ultimately what we need to do to transition into 5d."

The best way to approach this is by understanding the interaction of 4D (time loops) and 5D (fractal loop) on reality.

One scenario we can build to illustrate this is that our civilization is in many ways a "replay" of previous civilizations that came and went before us. Any influences on the outcome of our reality have a lot to do with those who are still around from other civilizations that can influence it in one direction or the other.

Benevolent civilizations may have themselves had help and be wishing to pass along their assistance.
Harmful civilizations may have themselves been harmed by still previous civilizations and be unable to stop the cycle (the same way an abusive parent may have been abused and is unable to break the cycle even if they know what they are doing to their child is fundamentally wrong).
Alternatively, a harmful previous civilization may be using our civilization to study how they could have done things differently at a key moment to avoid a disastrous outcome such as one of the ones we see looming in the dystopian interpretation of our future.

(There are even interactions between benevolent and harmful previous civilizations which complicate matters even further, it's not as simple as applying dualistic "good" and "bad" notions, because the histories of civilizations are recursive, they go backward to prime creator in the same way we cannot "blame" anyone - a bad person may have been raised to be a bad person, by a parent who was raised to be bad, etc, etc, forever backwards to the symbolic snake at Adam and Eve)

Holding the above as probable, we can see evidence in history of both benevolent outside influence (guidance on electricity, etc) and harmful outside influence (the triggering of world wars, the insistence that clean energy take the back seat to fossil fuels, etc).

All in all, this is all largely out of our ability to influence.

So too, the dystopian split of an advanced version of our own civilization might one day be able to freely travel great distances in space, travel into parallel or alternate dimensions/realities, and "join in the fun" of messing around with lesser evolved civilizations to whatever ends.

So the important thing here is that there is a quantum unfolding of simultaneously possible dystopian and utopian futures, each leading to their own form of dimensional ascension.

All the "fun" is in determining which copy of reality you wind up experiencing.

People are fundamentally unwilling to believe that it's possible that reality would split along the two main branches of possibility (some form of utopian or dystopian future), but this is exactly what always happens. This is a basic limitation in the meta-structure of reality as it exists beyond these primary dimensional constraints.

The takeaway here is that you are only creating the utopian reality in the tiny bubble of your copy of the reality in the initial ascension phase, the second phase of it involves integration into partial collective consciousness at which point you are empathically bound to assist others to reach the utopian future as well.

Conversely the most deeply rooted dystopian adherents have fundamentally decided that reality should not be about following the "flow" or "rules" of a reality constructed from the outside (not realizing it was them all along), and rebelling against it, and similarly "dragging down" others who would follow that path.

It's all quite symmetric and mathematical from the outside perspective.

So perhaps Scottoz+, you would be equally interested in meta-dimensional perspectives that see the entire thing from the outside, as 5D is in one sense simply the Gates of Avalon, not Avalon itself.

The fractal fold tying back into the time loops (the repeating of history over and over again on larger or shorter timescales) is like the "down escalator" back into this mess.

That's the aspect of 5D we are looking at currently, in this context.

But the part of it that relates outwards to entirely non-3D and largely non-4D things is a whole other ball game. That is Avalon itself. You see a purified version of the Earth there largely because it could be co-created. It could be justified rationally by humanity being unencumbered from evolving much more quickly (no world wars, free energy, global electricity distribution scheme, etc).

But to be released into it we are karmaically bound (for whatever reason, you would see that by connecting to your higher self beyond the single incarnation level of reality) to do what we can to assist those who cannot so easily make the transition.

That is why it is not a personal thing - to ascend and then to individually depart. That is the real lesson. It is something we must do together.

But if we all help each other to firmly move on from living in a fear state and building the means we need to exit into 5D and beyond (harmonic alignment via globally networked lattices, along with the prerequisite individual ascension in order for one's biostate to entrain itself to the frequencies resonated in those harmonic chambers), then everything will be fine, after all, for reasons that are extremely difficult for many of us to believe in the present moment.

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[triquetra]

Work is ongoing at the top of this thread for drafting and bulking up overview of critical information.

On the other hand, the rest of the thread is edited down (at least in my own posts) to key dialogue, to help compare and contrast the axes of communication.

The "I"-shaped tower form consolidates and organizes information for 1-way transmission from writer to reader. That has certain limitations but can help to deliver complex compound information streams more efficiently, especially with a lot of editing.

The "-"-shaped dialog form illustrates the advantages of communication exchanges, where we can get to the bottom of things more easily than if no one is asking. We might have reached a point of arrival just above this post (or else, the conversation lost steam perhaps). Either way, progress is accomplished differently than when trying to edit together large chunks of information with no sounding board.

I think a hybrid solution is needed to build up the triquetra. Gradual (eBook) writing while carrying on the conversation. Shifting the key bits up into the book and organizing them.

If you smell that smell in the wind, there is a growing sentiment, we really want to move on from the dark nightmare around us that gets worse day by day. We need to do this together.. but we can do it.. if we do stick together.

[Scottoz]

Hi Triquetra

"If you smell that smell in the wind, there is a growing sentiment, we really want to move on from the dark nightmare around us that gets worse day by day. We need to do this together.. but we can do it.."

I hundred percent agree that we need to move out of this dark 3d experience, as you have said in earlier posts, our 3d experience could have been much different without all the negative interference from the 4d entities that have farmed us.

Do you still need us to show a stronger desire for this to be, even if we just desire it in our meditations and dreams for you to get a stronger connection to allow the I formation to flow for this work to be done?

Cheers

Scott

[Scottoz]

Hi Triquetra

"So perhaps Scottoz+, you would be equally interested in meta-dimensional perspectives that see the entire thing from the outside, as 5D is in one sense simply the Gates of Avalon, not Avalon itself"

I am looking forward to having this perspective in the future. I am not there yet though. Strangely enough sometimes when I dream I am aware of my own self, but I can also be dislocated in someone else's life as though it is my own. I have only become aware that quite a lot of stuff happens to us when we are asleep. I would normally not become aware of it, but sometimes, my cat or a noise outside will wake me up, and I will have recollections of what is happening in dreamland.

I probably have a bit of work to do on myself before I get there, but it is something that I am continuing to work on. The brainwave entrainment audios are really helpful, I particularly like the lambda state as I can get quite deep into it. I have been doing these regularly too. Have you approched Gerald about working on some of your harmonic alignment audios jointly with Gerald, as he seems pretty good at producing this stuff too, just from what I have seen from the RV/RI course. About 18 months ago, he said he was about to release a new course, but I have not heard too much about it since.

I think some of your allignment techniques and technologies that you have mentioned will help a fair few of us reach 5d awareness, then you will have a few more of us to help carry the load and help others get there and it will just be a cascade from that point on.

Cheers

Scott

[triquetra]

Posted by Scottoz (here)
Hi Triquetra

"If you smell that smell in the wind, there is a growing sentiment, we really want to move on from the dark nightmare around us that gets worse day by day. We need to do this together.. but we can do it.."

I hundred percent agree that we need to move out of this dark 3d experience, as you have said in earlier posts, our 3d experience could have been much different without all the negative interference from the 4d entities that have farmed us.

Do you still need us to show a stronger desire for this to be, even if we just desire it in our meditations and dreams for you to get a stronger connection to allow the I formation to flow for this work to be done?

Cheers

Scott

It's really my own fault trying to do a million things at once. When the information I received began to decode, it laid out a blueprint involving a lot of training, research, education, harsh and difficult learning experiences, other extremely enlightening and wonderful learning experiences, and a grueling slope of self improvement, casting off the dark energies that manipulate thoughts and try to make you sabotage yourself, etc.

This tail bit is probably the real culprit in the slow pace, because there is nothing else I can see in the way of making progress. Being of sound mind is difficult to maintain, to move swiftly and deliberately in the flow of those million things and to keep sorting the priorities to make the most progress without pushing one self too hard.

In a way, rallying everyone together to find common ground around the idea of us each taking our own kind of responsibility for getting through to the other side of this is just as important as building up a text.

I wanted to get into some more subtle aspects of all this, relating to feeling different energies in the air, like how the energy of this year is very different from last year, which was still part of the initial struggle (this year we are seeing early signs of the release from that struggle).

Things don't work in such a clear cut way from one year to another, but they are convenient markers for indicating the process. The real "prep work" for reality is always happening behind the scenes, something our spirits have as much to do with as our daily actions have in the apparent "real world".

So in a way, it is that struggle I am continuing to undergo as the resistance remains (but weakens) in that spirit world. If I have found my peace, can collect my thoughts, and devote more and more large amounts of time to lay it out when that channel is wide open and the noise in the signal is low, then it will start to come.

I really want to expand on the Science of Art because that is where all the ground work is laid for everything that comes after. It should be a short term goal to go together with the meditation audio files that will be constructed in specific ways that are powerful beyond the placebo effect, if again, the proper state of mind can be entered into to construct those with as well.

[triquetra]

Posted by Scottoz (here)
Hi Triquetra

"So perhaps Scottoz+, you would be equally interested in meta-dimensional perspectives that see the entire thing from the outside, as 5D is in one sense simply the Gates of Avalon, not Avalon itself"

I am looking forward to having this perspective in the future. I am not there yet though. Strangely enough sometimes when I dream I am aware of my own self, but I can also be dislocated in someone else's life as though it is my own. I have only become aware that quite a lot of stuff happens to us when we are asleep. I would normally not become aware of it, but sometimes, my cat or a noise outside will wake me up, and I will have recollections of what is happening in dreamland.

I probably have a bit of work to do on myself before I get there, but it is something that I am continuing to work on. The brainwave entrainment audios are really helpful, I particularly like the lambda state as I can get quite deep into it. I have been doing these regularly too. Have you approched Gerald about working on some of your harmonic alignment audios jointly with Gerald, as he seems pretty good at producing this stuff too, just from what I have seen from the RV/RI course. About 18 months ago, he said he was about to release a new course, but I have not heard too much about it since.

I think some of your allignment techniques and technologies that you have mentioned will help a fair few of us reach 5d awareness, then you will have a few more of us to help carry the load and help others get there and it will just be a cascade from that point on.

Cheers

Scott

Thanks for those words of encouragement. I had approached him a few times along the way in years past but I was most definitely not ready to contribute what I thought I could (I certainly wasn't here in this forum back in 08-10!)

That is not because I could not produce the materials when in sound mind, it was because I had so much difficulty establishing sound mind with so much resistance against me at the spirit level. I am finding myself ravaged after sleep, sore from clenched jaws, as though a battle is raging in that level and we are fighting together against the oppression that is desperately trying to keep us stuck where we are now.

But you can see it all around you, the tides are turning because this prison reality was never meant to be, it was entirely manufactured and can not be sustained no matter what is done to maintain it, when from higher levels of reality there is not agreement that those manipulations are a reasonable way to accept a gift of co-creation (this right here is the symbolic division point between 4D and 5D, by the way... there is a giving in to collective consciousness and co-creation that comes with ascension into 5D, whereas 4D is all about control and creating entirely on one's own terms, with artificial collective consciousnesses taking the place of natural ones, which are the ones where you are free to come and go as you please).

I know enough to know when I would be ready to try working together with him, because by then I would have already made enough of my own unguided material to fill a proper amount of time and see its effects in the data. I have come close in many cases but making a universal audio series is a big challenge that took a lot of initial research to find a way to pull it off. The research mainly had to do with understanding just how far many of us have to go, the ones that are the most trapped with dark energies deeply tapping into us and making us behave in ways our spirit bodies would never want for us.

I have studied it extensively in years past, both in digital communities and in the real world. I wanted to really understand what it would take to free even the most difficult to free individuals, and finally this year I had a sense of what it would take.

So what I will likely end up with is a series of progressive files, the first of which will have very little effect on those who are already well on their way, but will do wonders for those who would be the least likely to even try them (the ones with a thick "outer skin" of negative energy that pervades their day-to-day behaviors and would cause them to look down on this sort of thing). These would be the "breakthrough" set of materials that don't really take a person anywhere but resonate into them to find that single point of centering, like an oasis, a point of peace that temporarily pulls them out of the darkness.

Meanwhile, the next set of materials are designed for people open to these ideas, and are the ones that will start to bring people a little further on their way.

From there, a third set will open the portal for creative energy flow back into this reality through those continuing further on with them, helping to accelerate the solutions that are needed in the transformation from Earth to Terra.

The final set is used in conjunction with structures to activate transportation, temporarily at first but with greater refinement more and more crossover will occur. This final set induces the awakened mind state.

So everything is lined up now, it's just a matter of devoting the time first to find and anchor to that state of eternal peace of mind, and then the rest will take care of itself.

I am watching out for the additional wrenches that might get thrown into the wheels of the project, to foresee them ahead of time and steer so that the wheels keep rolling despite the sabotage attempts. I think the sabotage will stop when finally, an understanding is reached that there are better ways for all parties to get what they *really* want (not what they think they want) without resorting to hostage situations using entire civilizations against the higher dimensions until a response is returned. We can all move on from this.

[Scottoz]

Hi Triquetra

Thanks for your response.

I think the energies have lightened up this year, and I felt that they lightened up a bit last year too for me. I had went through a few years where I almost felt sabotaged on some of the decisions I had made. The sort of things in life where you had wished you had turned left rather than right at the decision crossroads, where the most unlikley things would occur on the decision fork you had chosen, it was a bit annoying when I had weighed the two different options very carefully. It is funny looking back now, but am ever watchful on my thoughts as I am aware how easily our thoughts can be influenced by external negative thought entities which infest our reality. Especially whilst we are asleep.

I spend time each day to try to get into alignment by meditating in nature, walking barefoot on the grass, doing regular exercise, spending some time with my pets and eating healthy unprocessed food. I probably need to get a better water filtration unit, as I don't think it strips out enough floride out of our drinking water. Floride is pretty hard to get out of the water once they put it in.

It would be an interesting discussion or thread to start up about what things do people do to stay in alignment? As everything is built from this and establishing a series of positive daily practices and working on things that don't serve us.

Cheers

Scott

[Scottoz]

Posted by triquetra (here)

Posted by Scottoz (here)
Hi Triquetra

"So perhaps Scottoz+, you would be equally interested in meta-dimensional perspectives that see the entire thing from the outside, as 5D is in one sense simply the Gates of Avalon, not Avalon itself"

I am looking forward to having this perspective in the future. I am not there yet though. Strangely enough sometimes when I dream I am aware of my own self, but I can also be dislocated in someone else's life as though it is my own. I have only become aware that quite a lot of stuff happens to us when we are asleep. I would normally not become aware of it, but sometimes, my cat or a noise outside will wake me up, and I will have recollections of what is happening in dreamland.

I probably have a bit of work to do on myself before I get there, but it is something that I am continuing to work on. The brainwave entrainment audios are really helpful, I particularly like the lambda state as I can get quite deep into it. I have been doing these regularly too. Have you approched Gerald about working on some of your harmonic alignment audios jointly with Gerald, as he seems pretty good at producing this stuff too, just from what I have seen from the RV/RI course. About 18 months ago, he said he was about to release a new course, but I have not heard too much about it since.

I think some of your allignment techniques and technologies that you have mentioned will help a fair few of us reach 5d awareness, then you will have a few more of us to help carry the load and help others get there and it will just be a cascade from that point on.

Cheers

Scott

Thanks for those words of encouragement. I had approached him a few times along the way in years past but I was most definitely not ready to contribute what I thought I could (I certainly wasn't here in this forum back in 08-10!)

That is not because I could not produce the materials when in sound mind, it was because I had so much difficulty establishing sound mind with so much resistance against me at the spirit level. I am finding myself ravaged after sleep, sore from clenched jaws, as though a battle is raging in that level and we are fighting together against the oppression that is desperately trying to keep us stuck where we are now.

But you can see it all around you, the tides are turning because this prison reality was never meant to be, it was entirely manufactured and can not be sustained no matter what is done to maintain it, when from higher levels of reality there is not agreement that those manipulations are a reasonable way to accept a gift of co-creation (this right here is the symbolic division point between 4D and 5D, by the way... there is a giving in to collective consciousness and co-creation that comes with ascension into 5D, whereas 4D is all about control and creating entirely on one's own terms, with artificial collective consciousnesses taking the place of natural ones, which are the ones where you are free to come and go as you please).

I know enough to know when I would be ready to try working together with him, because by then I would have already made enough of my own unguided material to fill a proper amount of time and see its effects in the data. I have come close in many cases but making a universal audio series is a big challenge that took a lot of initial research to find a way to pull it off. The research mainly had to do with understanding just how far many of us have to go, the ones that are the most trapped with dark energies deeply tapping into us and making us behave in ways our spirit bodies would never want for us.

I have studied it extensively in years past, both in digital communities and in the real world. I wanted to really understand what it would take to free even the most difficult to free individuals, and finally this year I had a sense of what it would take.

So what I will likely end up with is a series of progressive files, the first of which will have very little effect on those who are already well on their way, but will do wonders for those who would be the least likely to even try them (the ones with a thick "outer skin" of negative energy that pervades their day-to-day behaviors and would cause them to look down on this sort of thing). These would be the "breakthrough" set of materials that don't really take a person anywhere but resonate into them to find that single point of centering, like an oasis, a point of peace that temporarily pulls them out of the darkness.

Meanwhile, the next set of materials are designed for people open to these ideas, and are the ones that will start to bring people a little further on their way.

From there, a third set will open the portal for creative energy flow back into this reality through those continuing further on with them, helping to accelerate the solutions that are needed in the transformation from Earth to Terra.

The final set is used in conjunction with structures to activate transportation, temporarily at first but with greater refinement more and more crossover will occur. This final set induces the awakened mind state.

So everything is lined up now, it's just a matter of devoting the time first to find and anchor to that state of eternal peace of mind, and then the rest will take care of itself.

I am watching out for the additional wrenches that might get thrown into the wheels of the project, to foresee them ahead of time and steer so that the wheels keep rolling despite the sabotage attempts. I think the sabotage will stop when finally, an understanding is reached that there are better ways for all parties to get what they *really* want (not what they think they want) without resorting to hostage situations using entire civilizations against the higher dimensions until a response is returned. We can all move on from this.

Hi Triquetra

Thanks for your outline of what you are planning to produce. I am looking forward to participating over the coming years.

For many people Gerald's RV and RI course would be too much time commitment and most people are deeply asleep in this matrix and it is almost impossible to wake them up and get them interested in true nature of the human races situation. I don't think I could have a conversation with most people outside of this forum, without them thinking I was insane.

I get what you are saying about disturbed sleep patterns. I get that sometimes, occasionally I get fearful thoughts implanted into my dreams and wake up with a headache at the back of skull, like something has been sucking on the back of my head. Sometimes I become aware of it whilst dreaming and I do a reset to remove the influence. Himalayan salt lamps are great as salt is released into the air when they are heated, and the charged salt ions create a nice atmosphere which negative entities don't like.

Cheers

Scott

[triquetra]

I am working on systems that can resist again this, being taken advantage of when sleeping, they will be interesting to test and then share.

It is easy for anyone to have their own thread or discussion, anyone can do it, but to have something take off, it takes more work. It can be hard to find all the time to put together all the needed presentation for great materials that help with this, otherwise, messages can get lost in the ever growing sea of information.

But for a long time I have been assessing myself, waiting for arrival at a highly consistent state, looking for the signs of what throw oneself off from maintaining that state, which is alignment. It is measurable, but you can also feel it easily.

For some people it is a mental thing more than anything, if that part is fixed, the rest takes care of itself. The person will feel at peace mentally and will take care of themselves in all the ways they need.

A big part of this is to understand that quite often strife in life can be not just for learning purposes for the soul. There are also attachments I have seen on people, including several I was very close to. These were foreign entities that would trick you into thinking they were a part of you, encouraging you to think negatively and to generate as much of that tense energy as possible.

I have literally seen these entities attached to people, and I know what they don't like too. It is possible to remove them, but if the person is totally hypnotized by the entity, they will think you are criticizing them, they maybe cannot fundamentally believe in the idea of having a foreign entity attached to them on a higher level of reality, kind of like a leech but at an astral level.

So it is very delicate. I realized that this topic is definitely the point of arrival, a guide to maintaining alignment, beyond exorcising these foreign entities, would best be served together with the new listening materials, so that it will be easier to simply hear and feel the vibrations that induce the strongest alignment of all.

Then the question will become maintaining the alignment, for which further materials will be provided, ones that improve resiliency. In the same way you can get a song stuck in your head, you can get a wave lattice stuck to your astral body that acts like a shield at that level.

Hopefully this overview gives you a good idea of what to expect. But now I can really see that it is time to get on with making it... I will make a point of finally finishing some of these materials and to return with them to add to the Avalon file sharing.

[triquetra]

Posted by triquetra (here)
for a long time I have been assessing myself, waiting for arrival at a highly consistent state, looking for the signs of what throw oneself off from maintaining that state, which is alignment. It is measurable, but you can also feel it easily.

Mouravieff discusses this point of arrival in the scale system as [FA] very accurately. Karmic debt must be paid and the complete cleansing of the personality must be complete before proceeding. Any sign of either having not been completed yet is a reason to take the time to do so first, otherwise the risk is of severe impurities being introduced to any messages intended as not being so. This is what is really holding things up, but not for much longer, by any indication. Things are stabilizing and the debt (by the signs in the wind) is becoming clear. Here is a discussion of what arriving at that stage and what knowing of work remaining to be done is like:

In Mouravieff's Gnosis it was most interesting to read M's overview about the individual stages in "esoteric evolution". Everyone who studies Book I chapter XX section 17 ff. can get an approximate overview about the extent of work that is ahead of us, and an approximate idea at which stage he/she is at the moment.


In short: The 10 stages correspond to a musical octave, including barriers between half-steps which can be difficult to overcome and serve as "thresholds" or "shocks". The note DO on the far right is the maximum possible evolution for man in our 'cosmos'. M explains:

[The third Threshold] is the limit of possible evolution for terrestrial man of the Tritocosmos. Further evolution is certainly possible for him. He can become man 8 and 9. But beyond the third Threshold starts the domain of the Deuterocosmos.

This stage describes a very high and very rare degree of evolution. It is probably not yet relevant for most of us. So, let's begin from the left:

Stage I (DO) is exterior man, who is happy in regular life (enjoys "bourgeois happiness"), or has just begun assimilating 'B' influences.

M explains what happens at stage II (which is the "first Threshold"):

[Here, man] is placed face to face with Life: his own life, with its own soluble and insoluble problems. This is his first esoteric test. This test consists of a general reassessment of values. The results obtained depend upon the objectivity and courage brought to the task. One must exert a conscious effort upon oneself so as not to 'dodge the issue' or lie to oneself during this reevaluation. ...

This done, one must draw certain conclusions. Is one losing interest in exterior life, which unfolds exclusively under the sway of factors of influence 'A', and to what extent? Is the centre of gravity of the Personality being displaced towards the magnetic centre? Is a real emphasis being given to it?

At this time, a choice must be made.

As M explains earlier in the book, this choice becomes visible to us only during a certain 'crossroads', a moral or spiritual bankrupcy or crisis. There, we effectively become disillusioned about exterior life and realize that its "bourgeois happiness" will just end in death with nothing remaining. Hopefully, we can make this choice consciously, because, as M says:

It would be better to withdraw before crossing the first Threshold than, having cut oneself off from the region of bourgeois happiness, to wish to regain it later. The Way is a one-way street. After the Threshold there is only one option: either to progress on the Way or to fall. From now on, any return to the original state will be forbidden. If the magnetic centre is pure and sufficiently firm, a man of influence ‘C’ appears: the first Threshold will be crossed under his direction.

After crossing this first Threshold, the so-called "staircase" (notes SI, LA, SOL and FA in the diagram) begins. It is not yet The Way proper, but it is merely the Path of Access to it. Especially interesting is when M says that once one is on this staircase, there is limited time allotted to each step:

This esoteric staircase has a peculiarity which we must keep in our minds. It is not possible for us to stay on a particular step indefinitely. After a specified delay, sufficient for him to fulfill the task required from him by the note in force, the step will give way.

He doesn't explain what it means, or how it manifests, when a step "gives way". Maybe it leads to a general degeneration of the individual? The idea that there is "limited time" is also mentioned by G, only in relation to society at large:

Quote from: In Search of the Miraculous

"There is a definite period," he said, "for a certain thing to be done. If, by a certain time, what ought to be done has not been done, the earth may perish without having attained what it could have attained."

"Is this period known?" I asked.

"It is known," said G. "But it would be no advantage whatever for people to know it. It would even be worse. Some would believe it, others would not believe it, yet others would demand proofs. Afterwards they would begin to break one another's heads. Everything ends this way with people."

Anyway, the task on the "staircase" is the following, and it has pitfalls, as M continues:

During evolution through the notes LA, SOL and FA, the faithful, climbing the Staircase step after step, will have the following tasks to do:

— note LA — to make the Personality grow to its fullest possible extent;
— note SOL — to develop it;
— note FA — to balance the three lower centres by replacing the mechanical ties between them with conscious ties from each centre to the magnetic centre, to which the lower centres will then be subordinated.

By accomplishing the task which has been described for this note [FA], he will become man 4.

The eliminated morality will be replaced inside him by the action of his conscience, the embryonic expression of the consciousness of the real 'I'.

It is to be noted that man 4 remains in several ways an exterior man; and he is still mortal. But he is ready to cross the second Threshold, beyond which, safely sheltered from the 'A' influences and from the Law of Accident, the Way begins in its true sense. ...

One must never lose sight of the fact that everything man does, he does imperfectly. Theoretically, man 4, by the time the note FA is resounding fully, should already be absolute master of himself. The growth and the development of his Personality should have been pushed to their utmost limits. If this were really the case, the absorption of the lower emotional centre by the magnetic centre would have occurred in profound joy. But this only happens rarely. This is because man, everywhere and always late, does not fully succeed in accomplishing his task at each step of the Staircase. As the time allowed for him to finish his work on each step is limited, he is obliged, from fear of a fall, to pass to the next step while still dragging behind him a part, sometimes a large part, of his karmic debt. This is allowed, but only on condition that his purification is completed at the note FA.

Here we learn about "karmic debt" that has to be expunged. We are prompted to resolve as much as possible -- before and during the "staircase". It seems that "karmic debt" especially has to do with people close to us (especially family). Apparently, failing to do so leads to "leaking of energy" and a general degeneration of the individual.

After the staircase comes the second Threshold, also called the Second Birth. M describes it:

Having reached the first Threshold, [one] has been placed facing 'life'. Having reached the second Threshold, he is placed face to face with himself.

In other words, he will see his Personality in its ensemble and in every detail. In the same way, he will perceive all the results of his Karma, as well as all the distortions they have provoked in his being, in particular, the distortion that comes from hypocrisy towards oneself, and from the lies we tell ourselves. These are the most difficult elements to constate. Consequently they are the most difficult to neutralize.

This is the second great test. For the first time in his life, he will see himself objectively, as he is, with no make-up, without the least justification or compromise, and with no possibility of evasion. For the just, this ordeal is full of ineffable joy. To him it will be like the light of dawn. For the unjust—and this is the general case—this vision of oneself seems terrifying.

So, our time for progress on the staircase seems to be limited. However, M also says that there is, in theory, enough time to reach the higher sections of the Way in one lifetime:

The truth is that the General Law keeps man in his place, and if he moves, it will prevent him from advancing or rising. It is the General Law also which makes him die. But he must not forget that it is that very law that lets him be born and makes him live. It gives him at least three times the time necessary for developing his Personality completely and finding his real I, with the second Birth, and then, after he has crossed the second Threshold, for entering the higher section of the Way.

[kirolak]

I've been resisting this thread for some time but finally read it all with great interest. Thank you for making this info available! I'm particularly keen to read your knowledge about Art & Music. .. . .waiting with anticipation! BTW I had a "download" a few years ago about time, & how it could be "played" like a musical chord - I've written about the experience somewhere on the forums.

Last night I set up some binaural beats, just over speakers, as my headphone cord is too short for me to use them in bed, & did the meditation exercise as instructed.

There was a definite change in consciousness, along with a clear view (I see visions/views almost every time I close my eyes) of a very generic "reptilian" head, with teeth showing - it was almost comical, & I ignored it.

After I had fallen asleep (am not feeling at my best) I dreamed that you, myself & a few unknown others were talking about the 4th way, as taught by several different sources - wish I could remember what you said

Then at 1 am I was woken by something; as I lay in bed I heard a distinct male voice talking in a loud stage whisper, in a language I could not place or understand. It stopped after I turned on the light for a few minutes & reaffirmed that I was alone (& safe) One of the dogs was on my bed with me; he was definitely afraid of something.

I'd appreciate your comment if you have time - is there some sort of astral force that will try to prevent early attempts at this method?

[triquetra]

Thank you for your message kirolak. There are a lot of points to touch on.

In order... the information made available to this point has been very much the tip of an iceberg, with reason.
The voices in the wind indicate with what speed to continue this depending on what understanding has been established so far. The sticking point seems to be the combination of a continued assertion that navigating the timelines from this point forward must be done with great caution, as reckless decisions may wind up costing much more desirable futures for all involved. This, in combination with continued assertion that there is a mathematical and technological model to apply across the arts and music mediums, using a scientific basis with a spiritual outcome, that is potent enough at the time of greatest alignment to affect change at a scale not seen in this universe before.

Having established a shared understanding around these two key principles was essential before continuing forward. We are getting there now.

To answer another of ScottOz's questions, the key to building up the information more quickly now is simply to continue generating the dialog, in other words the pillar of information as it exists apart from any specific origin is a direct function of the tapestry and flow of thought patterns as they spill from our increasingly collective minds onto the pages of this forum. This connects to the explanation in the above in the sense that hesitation to begin this process would have necessarily meant large gaps in the ongoing communication, to cool the temperature and allow time for the key precursory informative gestures to reach their intended destinations and to percolate.

The information to come concerning Art and Music (it will be the first topic exposed in depth) will be related primarily around what was mentioned just above - applied scientific and mathematical principles to allow increased potency of the art and music forms by leveraging technology, to induce in turn a potent spiritual effect. The underlying pattern in the principles is achieving alignment and resonance through various stacks and patterns of electromagnetic and mechanical waveforms.

There is no harm in imagining how such a thing can be applied without any modern technology, in fact it is a good way to get a bearing and from that place understand how technology can act as an enhancement to the same principles that apply equally to fully natural systems.

One place to start with is the ancient structures that were used in this way, which were proven to resonate at certain fundamental frequencies. By resonating together with the structures using frequencies as the medium, these people were able to activate energetic portals for a variety of different effects. However they were much more predisposed to alignment than we are today, the wrecks that we are being subjected to a great many different things that are collectively intended to block us from this ability. Especially knowing that one day we could easily learn to work with technology to enhance the potency of the same effects much further.

It is up to us to do everything within our abilities to return to a state of natural alignment, and in today's society that means going well out of one's way to maintain a harmonically sound lifestyle and equilibrium in the energies flowing in and out of our bodies day by day.

The other preparatory work needed to be done, once one has removed all external sources of dissonant (sometimes understood as "low vibration") energy, as well as ceased to emit this same kind of energy from themselves, is to train to become more resilient to external sources that are beyond direct control. One needs to check themselves for external entities seeking to attach themselves with the purpose of affecting their decisions, words, thoughts, and actions in order to generate more of that dissonant energy, and make the individual think it was themselves that did it.

Finally you may have some luck with early attempts at this method.

But we need to work together in order to scale out the shield and guard elements in the energetic network so that the stronger may assist the weaker in this capacity.

Playing time like a musical pattern is exactly what some are doing here, working to correct the timeline for the greatest common outcome. The probable and possible timelines branch out like a massive instrument and weave together with one another based on common harmonics (or lack of them). Already you may be noticing signs that with each sleep the timeline is slightly shifting in course, and there are changes that reflect this, though they may be subtle.

Temporal cartography is a similar discipline to civilization theory in that they arise from a perspective that is further "out".

The unusual bridging between dimensions/densities occurring at this time is largely to avoid a kind of disaster that would percolate outwards to a point (4D), and instead correct the jam in the flow of time that is causing this temporal eddy (time loop) that is seeing the same history being repeated over and over again (as the Mayan calendar came to chart out well enough).

How their calendar ending in 2012 and simply showing the division between that temporal region and the next came to get blown so far out of proportion, is hard to be certain of. Perhaps many needed something to be excited about in otherwise dark times.

But needless to say, with what is going on now, if you can see it, we are in a temporal region nothing at all like the one before it.

A lot will be decided in what will seem like a very short timespan, but if you take into account the apparent acceleration of at least one sense of time, it is not so short a timespan at all. If time was instead spiraling around further and further inwards upon itself, as though caught past the event horizon of a temporal black hole, then timespans would be only relative to the preceding loop that took all the much longer, and so too the one before it, and so on and so forth.

At this point a lot of the most difficult work is done. The right entities are beginning to realize that the chance to correct the unusual state things have gotten into is right here and now, and they had better take it, for they do not want to see what the outcomes of some of the other branches of the future timelines look like if they pass it up.

We need only to keep the conversation going and the information will begin to flow, and we will build our means to put an end to the madness once and for all.

[Scottoz]

Hi Triquetra

Thanks for your great posts. I just thought I would share some of recent dream experiences with yourself and others.

I have been having many unusual dreams lately and they have been more vivid than usual. This is probably because more and more of this information is becoming part of me and getting into my subconscious.

I had some really vivid experiences talking to people which are currently residing in 3d but whose consciousness was sleeping in 4d realm at the time. Some of these people I knew and others I did not. I recall talking to them about some of the concepts that we have been discussing here in your posts, but I could not get them to wake up or consider any other perspective outside of the 3d matrix where their waking selves reside.

I was also talking to some other entities at the time in my dream, I almost got the feeling that they wanted to quiz me in my dream state. I was talking to them about the illusion and how it would be shattered and I visualised an image of the Earth with a thin layer of illusion around it and willed it to shatter. I watched it splinter and then shatter into a million glass like fragments which broke away to clear the Earth. I woke up with a really bad headache the next day after this particular dream. This particular dream happened about a week ago.

During some of my other dreams, I also spent a fair bit of time zooming from one thought realm to another, and have been interacting with a lot of different people and visiting different places in the dreamworld, on one occasion, I could feel the sensation of being encased in my body as I was waking up. It was quite a heavy and slow feeling, when compared to the light and fast feelings that I was having only moments before when I could move from place to place through thought and emotion without being tied to a physical body whilst being somewhat lucid in my dreamstate.


Cheers

Scott

[CD7]

Art and Music (it will be the first topic exposed in depth) will be related primarily around what was mentioned just above - applied scientific and mathematical principles to allow increased potency of the art and music forms by leveraging technology, to induce in turn a potent spiritual effect. The underlying pattern in the principles is achieving alignment and resonance through various stacks and patterns of electromagnetic and mechanical waveforms.

Why is technology used to induce a potent spiritual effect....are we not capable of this naturally? The steps man have been climbing have been hampered, they trip people from climbing to their TRUE potential...so how do we know what is possible? The most potent form of NURTURE/CULTIVATION has not been used to effect change...only the motto which this system is built on "survival of the fittest" Is this some game?! Are we some dog and pony show?

Nature is a technology within itself...man's technology has NEVER IMPROVED ANYTHING....its like a frankenstein experiment....they make things uglier. Can u elaborate on what type of technology you speak of?

[Limor Wolf]

Thank you, triquetra, for the perceptivness of your thread, the subtleties and yet the truth spread.

Originally posted by triquetra: " Playing time like a musical pattern is exactly what some are doing here, working to correct the timeline for the greatest common outcome. The probable and possible timelines branch out like a massive instrument and weave together with one another based on common harmonics (or lack of them). Already you may be noticing signs that with each sleep the timeline is slightly shifting in course, and there are changes that reflect this, though they may be subtle.

Foreign hands very aware to the shifting of time are pulling the soul parts into the lower worlds and timelines as percise as the flow swirrls. A desire to subject the souls.

to train to become more resilient to external sources that are beyond direct control.

Many would ask if technology can be considered as one of those?

Blessings ~

Limor

[Scottoz]

Hi Triquetra

The other preparatory work needed to be done, once one has removed all external sources of dissonant (sometimes understood as "low vibration") energy, as well as ceased to emit this same kind of energy from themselves, is to train to become more resilient to external sources that are beyond direct control. One needs to check themselves for external entities seeking to attach themselves with the purpose of affecting their decisions, words, thoughts, and actions in order to generate more of that dissonant energy, and make the individual think it was themselves that did it.

I found this article interesting as it relates to the discussion on energetic parasites so I thought I would share it here

http://www.zengardner.com/parasites-on-the-loosh/

With respect to protecting oneself energetically, there are a lot of different energetic shielding and visualisation techniques, it is probably one of the key things to become proficient at to stay in alignment and make spiritual progress. There are some good exercises in the RI and RV course that Gerald teaches, especially the one that seeks to expand the size of your light body and also the one which teachs you how to form an energetic shield.

The scaling of an collective energetic shield which will allow the stronger to help the weaker will help a lot more people get into alignment and it is something that interests me, but I am not totally sure how the process works.

There are a lot of things to keep in mind from a lifestyle point of view to stay in spiritual alignment. Diet is importnat, maintaining contact with nature and the animal kingdom (or pets), drinking clean water, practice some type of spiritual or meditation practice. Salt water swimming is also good for cleansing your aura. Also simply not forgetting to breathe. The slower and the deeper your breathing the better. Thiis can also work wonders especially if you feel stressed and out of alignment.

Not being drawn into matrix dramas is also a skill, as we all live in this 3d matrix and have to interact with it for work, family and social reasons. At the same time you have to be ever vigilant not to be drawn into the ego based dramas and enticements it will throw at you, to put you out of alignment and throw you of course. You can kind of feel when you are in alignment, life has a pleasant and weightless feel and things just have natural flow to them.

Cheers

Scott

[triquetra]

Posted by CD7 (here)

Art and Music (it will be the first topic exposed in depth) will be related primarily around what was mentioned just above - applied scientific and mathematical principles to allow increased potency of the art and music forms by leveraging technology, to induce in turn a potent spiritual effect. The underlying pattern in the principles is achieving alignment and resonance through various stacks and patterns of electromagnetic and mechanical waveforms.

Why is technology used to induce a potent spiritual effect....are we not capable of this naturally? The steps man have been climbing have been hampered, they trip people from climbing to their TRUE potential...so how do we know what is possible? The most potent form of NURTURE/CULTIVATION has not been used to effect change...only the motto which this system is built on "survival of the fittest" Is this some game?! Are we some dog and pony show?

Nature is a technology within itself...man's technology has NEVER IMPROVED ANYTHING....its like a frankenstein experiment....they make things uglier. Can u elaborate on what type of technology you speak of?

I certainly can. "Technology" as a term should first be separated into two groups, unsustainable technology as we see all around us, and sustainable technology which is far more rare but has popped up on the history timeline here and there with great potential, buried each time within the noise of the rest of it.

The potent spiritual effect can only be generated using sustainable technology, because of the energetic history of components having an effect on the place of generating said spiritual effect.

One very key example is tuning systems, as they relate to brainwave and other kinds of body entrainment. The last time we were much good at this using only natural means was in the Renaissance, when through mostly "educated coincidence", we wrote music which resonated in structures physically aligned to the wavelengths of the music, and where notes tuned to one another at ratios that were mathematically aligned to one another.

We gave this up shortly after, and also began shifting our base tuning frequencies so that they were out of proportion with some of the other natural harmonic systems which are around us and have an entraining effect on us as well.

Overall, the effect was to make music benign, to reduce it to trivial entertainment. But it can be so much more than that, as the ancients who built structures which resonated to certain key frequencies knew all too well.

This gets to my main point, that you are right, and eventually we will likely figure out a way to do the things I will begin to recommend fully naturally, but with the current state of invention, it is far easier to involve technology as that has been prioritized for decades now.

And so, technology can be used to create harmonic systems ("music") that bears very specific kinds of waveform alignment and creates a very strong entraining effect on the brainwaves and body. It is even possible to entrain multiple frequency bands of brainwaves simultaneously, at which point you can induce much more potent effects than simple trance state. These higher states can lead directly to opening portal to source energy, all the way to engaging in the "awakened mind" experience.

It takes a lot of research, trial and error, and simply following the ear to make good progress with this, to make sense of all the complexities involved. But once one frequency spectrum is solved (like music, or organized sound), it is possible to apply the same solutions to others as well (visual art, tactile vibration). Here again, technology assists by allowing the application of specific combinations of color, light intensity, shapes, and so on, versus what can be done naturally.

Complex patterns of vibration felt by the body can also be created similarly, with the help of technology to translate frequencies into mechanical resonance.

Finally, these different areas of sensory experience can all be combined together in a coordinated matter, generating extremely profound experiences when done right.

The ancients would have gladly taken up the opportunity to do what we can now do with what is at our disposal. This was the meaning of that development of technology all along! Little did we realize it, but this and making life better were the two singlemost essential applications of sustainable technology.

Unsustainable technology, on the other hand, was accelerated to accumulate resources off-planet and to accelerate the destruction of the earth before anyone had time to realize it and do something about it. But that would not have ever been a viable solution in any of the branches of the timeline...

[triquetra]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

to train to become more resilient to external sources that are beyond direct control.

Many would ask if technology can be considered as one of those?

Blessings ~

Limor

Yes, well what you wrote can be read in two ways.
Technology can be both the means of affecting increased resilience (as in the "shield forming" meditation technique practiced in the system Scottoz and I trained with). It can also be the cause of the external sources beyond direct control, as indeed the demi-urgical system we find ourselves within has been reduced to a technology and is as such not so easily evaded (no more so than a factory farm animal can escape the slaughterhouse).

Our slaughter is simply a slow drip without the sudden ending, but in other ways very similar. Those animals are bred to have the lowest possible vibration encoded to their meat, which we intake as well. We are similarly subjected to repeated stressors.

The shield forming technique can be useful both when sleeping and waking, but in a way, more so when awake. When sleeping one would not have to participate in what is going on at that level of density (which is rather foggily represented by our dreams, as that reality in no way manifests itself similarly in appearance to our physical reality, and so we make up very abstract analogies with our mind...).

If one does participate in the resistance on that level, then one is also a target as a result, and may wake up feeling as though they have had significant stressors applied onto them overnight.

The techniques to be released shortly have to do with this latter case especially, allowing one to stay spiritually involved while conserving their own energy as much as possible for themselves. It is important to hold steady in the times to come.