The Billy Meier case: what's the truth?

[Mutchie]

Thank you for the reply Ghostrider i noted on another thread that YOU seemed to be well versed in the Contact notes ... I think it's VERY HARD to refute the evidence when you realise all the events & predictions have come to pass just as they said they would Mike Horn likes to list these as the year it was predicted & the year it happened who could know all these things ???

Karpos it was Simon Parkes the MP who mentioned the GRID on one of his more recents talks ... I have heard it before though -

You are totally entitled your opinion my friend if you think it sounds juvenile i just wanted to know more about this information it seem's similar to the Alien interview story with the nurse who interacts with the GREY it mentions this grid THANKS FOR POSTING OMG.

[mahigitam]

My research on Meier case and interview were covered by Top Secret Writers on their website, here:
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2015...d-under-wraps/

[Atlas]

[Nick07]

I think maybe he got tired of the attention and the crap that has been coming from him may just be his way of securing a life away from all the attention. This has made family life hard for guy from what I gather.

[syrwong]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
This seems the most recent bit of vid I can find of Billy on U'tube from
earlier in 2015 , and he is answering a few questions about IS and
will it escalate into WW1V . He calls it that as historically the first
world war in the modern era was the seven years war fought mainly
between France , Prussia , Russia , Austria and the UK in Europe ,
North America , India and other clashes around the globe. He also
makes ref to the mil ind complex, and the pressure being put on
Russia by the EU and US. No mention of the Plejaren in this clip.



http://sevenparallel.com/era_display...%20Years%20War



New Corroboration of Billy Meier's Prophetic Information

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d7ce5dFaSa0

Published on 3 Aug 2015

Billy Meier's prophetic information, dating back to 1951, is - again - proving to be
unerringly correct, unfortunately. Further information pertaining to this video is in
the blog "Former US Treasury Official Confirms Billy Meier's Prophetic Information",
at www.theyflyblog.com.To see the latest independent analysis, confirming the
ironclad authentication of Meier's WCUFO photos and video, click here:

http://www.tjresearch.info/Zahi_WCUFO...

See www.theyfly.com and www.theyflyblog.com for further information.

They are doing the opposite to what Meir advised, provoking Russia like mad. Knowing that Meier has a high degree of accuracy, the world war 3 (in the conventional terminology) is highly likely. We could only hope that Merkel has an awakening of some sort, to suddenly change course, even though she was described as a puppet to the US. It does appear that Germany is an important piece in the chessboard of world politics.

[WhiteLove]

The Edward Meier UFO/ET contact case has always been a bit confusing to me. Is it possible that this man truly has been in contact with beings not from earth?

If what he claims is true it is a Close Encounter of the Fifth kind - A UFO event that involves direct communication between aliens and humans. This type of close encounter was named by Steven M. Greer's CSETI group and is described as bilateral contact experiences through conscious, voluntary and proactive human-initiated cooperative communication with extraterrestrial intelligence.

I found this video quite fascinating. 👽

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z16B3IP1Bbg

What's your take on this? What's the credibility of Billy and what do you make of these contacts, what does is claim about ET life and its relationship to humans on earth? How does this fit together with everything else, any deceptions/conspiracies involved in/around this case? Please post your thoughts/comments...

At 01:04, please notice the frequencies that were recorded from one of the crafts that Billy captured on camera and on the voice recorder. Please notice that it appears the craft has a series of weird looking loudspeakers around it. This in combination with the recording indicates that the craft might operate acoustically, it might sit inside of some kind of controllable acoustic chamber that is forming some kind of energy field around the craft and it might be in some kind of vibrational resonance with earth when it is in the anti-gravity levitation state.

[Eram]

At 6:50 into this docu, Billy States about his first communications with the Pleyaren woman: "You see,... The first she told me... I shall get the most, best pictures of UFO's what has ever happened on earth."

Excellent!!!
So, show me the film footage where Billy waves of the pleyaren woman into the landed UFO after which it takes of into the air.

Oops, there is no such footage, which leaves me disappointed and skeptical about the whole thing.

If it was the aim of these so called pleyaree's to deliver 100% proof of their existence, surely they would have encouraged Billy to take more convincing footage then only the vague distant shots of a flying disc?

[DNA]

There is no straight line in this story. There are convoluted twists and turns, and the truth is there and then it is not there.

But, in so far as real life is concerned, life is rarely black and white.

People want a straight answer, people want to hear either a damning story so as to be able to make a negative judgment and walk away, or bubbling praise giving irrefutable doubt that Billy is telling the truth.

In so far as where I've gone in this journey, I've heard both.
So I doubt certain aspects about Billy, but I also believe he has indeed been contacted by beings in flying saucers.

So here is the question I think is important to ask.
Do we trust the beings who talk to Billy and say fabulous things?
Do we trust the intent of the beings who are talking to Billy?
My honest answer is I do not.
There is truth, but, that truth could be woven with falsehood in order to weave disinformation.

I'll tell you one of the things that causes me to take pause.
There is are 8mm films of saucers shot by Meier.
They seem legit. But there is something about these craft that looks crude and rudimentary. Not fake, but also not of a species thousands of years in advance of us. The craft seem to hover on an energy field kind of haphazardly.
I can't help but to think of the Antarctic Germans who did in fact have rudimentary flying saucers from what we are told.
I've got to say, the fact that you have white, Nordic looking aliens with blond hair and blue eyes and speaking German on top of it.
I have got to say, I think this points to the Germans living in Antarctica not Plieadian/Plejarans but home grown Germans who moved to the South Pole with Nazi Bell equipment after world war II was lost.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OJjwlsnpnNY

[Sunny-side-up]

So, show me the film footage where Billy waves of the pleyaren woman into the landed UFO after which it takes of into the air.

Oops, there is no such footage, which leaves me disappointed and skeptical about the whole thing.

Eram even if such vidio was shown most would still not believe it while others would debunk it.


I believe otherworldly events took/take place around Billy.
I have seen UFO's many times now in my life, some encounters very solid and up close but when I think back I still bout my memories, so out of the normal day to day reality we live, it's like was it a dream Doh (I do know they where not dreams BTW, just saying as an example of the illusional minds we have).

[Eram]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

So, show me the film footage where Billy waves of the pleyaren woman into the landed UFO after which it takes of into the air.

Oops, there is no such footage, which leaves me disappointed and skeptical about the whole thing.

Eram even if such vidio was shown most would still not believe it while others would debunk it.


I believe otherworldly events took/take place around Billy.
I have seen UFO's many times now in my life, some encounters very solid and up close but when I think back I still bout my memories, so out of the normal day to day reality we live, it's like was it a dream Doh (I do know they where not dreams BTW, just saying as an example of the illusional minds we have).

The question is not if there would still be skeptics if clear and up close footage was shot (that would go without saying), ... The question is: If it was the aim of the ET's to deliver the strongest kind of proof about their existence possible (Billy suggests so himself), then why would they only go as far a some distant vague footage?
I think it is a legitimate question.
After all, the world is full of fantasts who have duped others millions of times.


Please don't think that my doubt about the Billy Meyer case is analogue for not believing in ET life forms or that earth is visited by them. I saw a UFO when I was about 7 years old and there are a host of other reasons that I believe in them.

It's just that Billy Meyer paints a picture in which he should have been able to collect a multitude of more convincing evidence about their existence then he did and I find it very suspect.

Almost all hoaxers try to convince their audience with vague evidence, playing into the will and hope of their victims to draw them into their circle of manipulations, so I think it is only wise to be extra critical when people make bold claims and in this case... things don't ad up for me.

[ghostrider]

The PTB have tried to kill him 23 times, Wendell Stevens was visiting when one attempt was made... There are also 100 witnesses to the craft, and witnesses who have seen Ptaah, and Asket, one of those witnesses is a UN diplomat... Predicting future events for over 70 years , and science proves his predictions every day... Ears to hear but some do not hear just like in the days of long ago...

[ghostrider]

Here is one nugget that king James didn't want known, replace the word ( spirit \father\god ) with consciousness... My consciousness doeth the works, the power of spirit inside every human being, consciousness, you don't need a king or a god, or a priest, or a savior, you have every thing you need inside your mind , it's up to you to develop it through meditation and hard work along with life experiences, and guidance from those who are more advanced in knowledge of spirit power...

[ghostrider]

The greys are androids created by human beings from the zeta reticulum star system... The human form is the most common form in the universe, there are reptoid type beings, human beings with wings, and fish like human beings among several other types listed, the Plejaren give a very detailed account of these advanced human beings with wings etc ...

[ghostrider]

Dude Edward has 1200 photos taken prior to photo shop and computers... When computers came out he stopped taking photos... One shot the ship is hovering 15-20ft over his van in his front yard... Another shot has two ships over his house... And he has video of quetzals' ship parked in a tree and he walks into the shot and goes back out and zooms in... Not to mention metal samples, sound recordings, 100 witnesses of the ships ...

[Shannon]

Posted by DNA (here)
There is no straight line in this story. There are convoluted twists and turns, and the truth is there and then it is not there.

But, in so far as real life is concerned, life is rarely black and white.

People want a straight answer, people want to hear either a damning story so as to be able to make a negative judgment and walk away, or bubbling praise giving irrefutable doubt that Billy is telling the truth.

In so far as where I've gone in this journey, I've heard both.
So I doubt certain aspects about Billy, but I also believe he has indeed been contacted by beings in flying saucers.

So here is the question I think is important to ask.
Do we trust the beings who talk to Billy and say fabulous things?
Do we trust the intent of the beings who are talking to Billy?
My honest answer is I do not.
There is truth, but, that truth could be woven with falsehood in order to weave disinformation.

I'll tell you one of the things that causes me to take pause.
There is are 8mm films of saucers shot by Meier.
They seem legit. But there is something about these craft that looks crude and rudimentary. Not fake, but also not of a species thousands of years in advance of us. The craft seem to hover on an energy field kind of haphazardly.
I can't help but to think of the Antarctic Germans who did in fact have rudimentary flying saucers from what we are told.
I've got to say, the fact that you have white, Nordic looking aliens with blond hair and blue eyes and speaking German on top of it.
I have got to say, I think this points to the Germans living in Antarctica not Plieadian/Plejarans but home grown Germans who moved to the South Pole with Nazi Bell equipment after world war II was lost.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OJjwlsnpnNY

It's def and option.

[Inversion]

Billy was given metal samples and by the next morning they had dissolved. If their ships are separated from the intended user they'll autodestruct on an molecular level. It's my opinion that they used him to tell the TPTB if they were to steal their beam ships they would disintegrate making any effort to do so pointless.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Inversion (here)

Billy was given metal samples and by the next morning they had dissolved.

I'd not heard that before. Not saying it's not accurate, but can you give a source for the info? THX

[Inversion]

I believe I heard that on a C2C episode. Semjase told him they wanted to steal their craft possibly for reverse engineering.

The analysis of the extra-terrestrial metal samples:
http://www.meiersaken.info/Documentation.html

[DNA]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Inversion (here)

Billy was given metal samples and by the next morning they had dissolved.

I'd not heard that before. Not saying it's not accurate, but can you give a source for the info? THX

Dr. Vogal was a senior scientist working for IBM.
He did the metal analysis. He developed the metal coating system used for IBM memory in computers. He also specialized in liquid crystal systems.


Jim Delatosa contacted Dr. Vogal with the Meier metal sample.


This information was placed in the Wendelle Stevens Book about Billy Meier.


This documentary is really good. It's the actual analysis done by Dr. Vogal from back in 1985. The production value leaves something to be desired but it's the real deal. And worth watching.


From memory I remember reading in the UFO CONTACT FROM THE PLIEADIES book that Dr. Vogal was impressed that the metal was a combination of metal that took on the look of a crystline structure. He was of the opinion that the process to make this alloy must have been done in a zero gravity environment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cFr3zzFeYk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0cFr3zzFeYk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_NNFL_6evQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=W_NNFL_6evQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJc80DEWhE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XxJc80DEWhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLMCg0Vo4E

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vbLMCg0Vo4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNZZNRTvm9g

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CNZZNRTvm9g

[onawah]

That confirms what Simon Parkes said in one of the recent discussions with JayPee on WolfSpiritRadio, that the UFOs Meier filmed were German made.

Posted by DNA (here)
There is no straight line in this story. There are convoluted twists and turns, and the truth is there and then it is not there.

But, in so far as real life is concerned, life is rarely black and white.

People want a straight answer, people want to hear either a damning story so as to be able to make a negative judgment and walk away, or bubbling praise giving irrefutable doubt that Billy is telling the truth.

In so far as where I've gone in this journey, I've heard both.
So I doubt certain aspects about Billy, but I also believe he has indeed been contacted by beings in flying saucers.

So here is the question I think is important to ask.
Do we trust the beings who talk to Billy and say fabulous things?
Do we trust the intent of the beings who are talking to Billy?
My honest answer is I do not.
There is truth, but, that truth could be woven with falsehood in order to weave disinformation.

I'll tell you one of the things that causes me to take pause.
There is are 8mm films of saucers shot by Meier.
They seem legit. But there is something about these craft that looks crude and rudimentary. Not fake, but also not of a species thousands of years in advance of us. The craft seem to hover on an energy field kind of haphazardly.
I can't help but to think of the Antarctic Germans who did in fact have rudimentary flying saucers from what we are told.
I've got to say, the fact that you have white, Nordic looking aliens with blond hair and blue eyes and speaking German on top of it.
I have got to say, I think this points to the Germans living in Antarctica not Plieadian/Plejarans but home grown Germans who moved to the South Pole with Nazi Bell equipment after world war II was lost.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OJjwlsnpnNY