You’ve Woken Up…Now What?

[Callista]

DISCLAIMER: In light of recent revelations I choose not to support Zen Gardner and therefore remove this article which was posted in good faith at the time.

[DNA]

I think there are various levels of waking up. This paper talks about the "system" as if we awaken to an external deception.
The external part of the deception is the easy part.
We have grown up being socialized on so many levels. And really, in this instance, when we are talking about being socialized we are talking about being brain washed.
This is done on so many levels that it takes years of introspection just to see what has been done to our subconscious and years more to unhinge the lever in our minds made so as we react in a preprogrammed manner when a certain stimuli is applied.
Removing the deception within our own being is the difficult part.

[raff]

Thank you Callista for your kind and informative link. How interesting is it that with little or no resources, proper education or even the breadth to imagine what freedom realistically means to us and how we can create it as our reality that our present predicament challenges us to virtual entropy. It requires a great deal of commitment and depth of resolve to extricate us from this parasitic system. Being self responsable and/or self sufficient is the path we would all like to take but we are hampered with our self disbelief (that we can't do it for whatever reason) and the fact that the system and those that administer to it are so insidious and zealot in their duty and wish to imprison and torture us to their "hearts content". Although it has occurred to me that just having the intention to be/live free as a self and in a world community is a great way to start. I am reminded that we are not alone ( Spirit as well as benevolent beings in the cosmos)and that our pure intent inspired and dreamed is the first step to manifestation. Perhaps our efforts would be better disposed of if we can take the time to reflect on that. It's very difficult to organise and unite people in a common cause but this conversation you have initiated has inspired me further thus. Thank you.
Kind regards

[Violet3]

Posted by DNA (here)
I think there are various levels of waking up. This paper talks about the "system" as if we awaken to an external deception.
The external part of the deception is the easy part.
We have grown up being socialized on so many levels. And really, in this instance, when we are talking about being socialized we are talking about being brain washed.
This is done on so many levels that it takes years of introspection just to see what has been done to our subconscious and years more to unhinge the lever in our minds made so as we react in a preprogrammed manner when a certain stimuli is applied.
Removing the deception within our own being is the difficult part.

I am interested in you last sentence DNA. My eyes are open to the external game, to an extent- I learn more each day almost. But removing the deception within... any ideas about what works?

[Eram]

Being asleep:
to have your head stuck in a fairy tale.

being awake:
to have your head stuck in the rabbit hole.

To address the latter as being "awake" is stretching things a bit me thinks.

sorry.
Couldn't resist this one.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Eram

Having your head stuck in the rabbit hole as you put it is not the awake alternative to being asleep (That's negative thinking).

The 'Rabbit hole' is the reality knowladge base for your awoken mind, it's where you continue to find the real world (and beyond)

Being 'Awake' is knowing that there is mass illusion that we have lived and thought of as real, reality.

To be awake and live that which is healthy, (As much as you can given constants of family life) real knowledge and don't be fooled by the 'Old establishment' rules and doctrines!

But don't flag the 'Rabbit hole' as negative, use it as a tool to shiv out the old illusion/s

Posted by Eram (here)
Being asleep:
to have your head stuck in a fairy tale.

being awake:
to have your head stuck in the rabbit hole.

To address the latter as being "awake" is stretching things a bit me thinks.

sorry.
Couldn't resist this one.

[joeecho]

You’ve Woken Up…Now What?

Test

You may still be sleeping.

[Clear Light]

Posted by DNA (here)
I think there are various levels of waking up. This paper talks about the "system" as if we awaken to an external deception.
The external part of the deception is the easy part.
We have grown up being socialized on so many levels. And really, in this instance, when we are talking about being socialized we are talking about being brain washed.
This is done on so many levels that it takes years of introspection just to see what has been done to our subconscious and years more to unhinge the lever in our minds made so as we react in a preprogrammed manner when a certain stimuli is applied.
Removing the deception within our own being is the difficult part.

Or perhaps "seeing through the deception" of our sometimes pre-programmed reactive behaviour when and as it arises in each moment such that we (over time) de-program ourselves ?

Just my "two cents" today

Now who is the one to whom all these thoughts appeared (manifested) ? LOL

How deep does the "Rabbit Hole" (of Projected Reality) actually "go" ... and are "you" willing to find out ?

[DNA]

Posted by Violet3 (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
I think there are various levels of waking up. This paper talks about the "system" as if we awaken to an external deception.
The external part of the deception is the easy part.
We have grown up being socialized on so many levels. And really, in this instance, when we are talking about being socialized we are talking about being brain washed.
This is done on so many levels that it takes years of introspection just to see what has been done to our subconscious and years more to unhinge the lever in our minds made so as we react in a preprogrammed manner when a certain stimuli is applied.
Removing the deception within our own being is the difficult part.

I am interested in you last sentence DNA. My eyes are open to the external game, to an extent- I learn more each day almost. But removing the deception within... any ideas about what works?

The name of the game is examining your impulses and following those back to their source.
Being as you are looking for a modicum of internal silence while allowing these impulses to surface and while being able to examine and expand on these impulses it makes sense you would want your environment to be quiet as well.

The extent you pursue this is up to the individual.
For some a few moments to an hour at a time are sufficient. For others recreating the environment of the sage who seeks solitude in a mountain cave for an extended period of time is necessary. And by recreating the environment I mean the modern equivalent. Which I think living by yourself in our modern world would suffice for.

For some (myself included) this pursuit can take on religious fervor, for what has more appeal in the realm of spirituality than knowing yourself?

In the realm of books I could make recommendations, but if you ask I'm sure your guardian angel/spirits will help manifest clues as to what would be good for you to pursue.

Good luck Violet3
I hope that helps

[Red Skywalker]

This man said it all 4 decades (!) ago:

Maybe this is the simplest answer on 'Now What?'

You have the right to self-defend yourself.


(Added the video from which I took the audiosample of the famous scene from the academy award winning film 'Network' from 1976. Part of it was also used in the movie 'Zeitgeist')

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

40 years of my live passed without anything getting better, knowing now of the fact that we have technologies like the 'Fluxliner', free energy and the oneness of our minds even older then this movie.

I am very awake and, yes, MAD. When is it time for the scene at the end of this clip?

[Callista]

LOVE that audio!!

[bettye198]

Once you are slammed with the truth that causes a major epiphany, you are confronted with two sets of thinking. Glad to be experiencing a truth without coverup and how to deal with the depression and betrayal? Many people I know will engage in part truths, i.e. the born again Christian who delves into conspiracy about everything but religion. Or the people who like talking about coverups but are scared to death about aliens living in the dirt under us. Or those who just dabble in political conspiracy. You all must know these types. Then the ones who just hate their circumstances because big brother is oppressive. Just a rangling of hate going on there. I have a family of people who want to know nothing. Then there are those. I guess I was just born a curious cat.

[Violet3]

Thanks for your kind reply DNA. I read an overview of an interview on power by Jon Rappoport with the late Jack True (hypnotherapist). He basically states, if I read correctly, that the perceived need for deep uncovering of layers and introspection over time is our conditioning, and that through imagination we can overcome all that and step into our power- always available but always projected elsewhere. I am into psychotherapy but that angle got me thinking.... maybe we can just learn to 'switch channels'?

[Callista]

I give thanks to GMB1961 (thanks Gregg!!) who has this on his profile page - I feel it belongs on this thread

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZGEQmFL9McU

much love

Callista

[DNA]

Posted by Violet3 (here)
Thanks for your kind reply DNA. I read an overview of an interview on power by Jon Rappoport with the late Jack True (hypnotherapist). He basically states, if I read correctly, that the perceived need for deep uncovering of layers and introspection over time is our conditioning, and that through imagination we can overcome all that and step into our power- always available but always projected elsewhere. I am into psychotherapy but that angle got me thinking.... maybe we can just learn to 'switch channels'?

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, and with that being said we only learn through doing, so good luck.


For me this is the same kind of program that "The Secret" promoted.
The idea that you can create your own reality if you just apply your mind and imagination to it.


And you know what, if this works for you then more power to you.
My reply to folks though when they bring up "The Secret" is this.
We are already manifesting our reality through how we have been programmed our whole life.
And you may attempt to overlay another message on top of that, and that is fine, the problem is this.
Think of your power in terms of light through a projector. You may wish to imagine a completely different movie and manifest that movie on the big screen of your life.
The problem is this. There are already a thousand little projectors broadcasting your life through your subconscious, and these projectors were not programmed by you, they were programmed by society and the untruths that this thread alludes to are currently being manifested not just by an external threat but by our own being. In the end there is only so much light to power the pictures you wish to see manifested on the screen. So until you can take back your light from all of those little projectors running on autopilot, there is usually not enough energy there for you to over ride the movie that is already playing on the big screen.


But, I'm just a silly voice on a forum.
If you feel excited about it then maybe it is the right thing for you to do.
Regardless I wish you nothing but the best. Good luck with your endeavor.

[Sean]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by Violet3 (here)
Thanks for your kind reply DNA. I read an overview of an interview on power by Jon Rappoport with the late Jack True (hypnotherapist). He basically states, if I read correctly, that the perceived need for deep uncovering of layers and introspection over time is our conditioning, and that through imagination we can overcome all that and step into our power- always available but always projected elsewhere. I am into psychotherapy but that angle got me thinking.... maybe we can just learn to 'switch channels'?

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, and with that being said we only learn through doing, so good luck.


For me this is the same kind of program that "The Secret" promoted.
The idea that you can create your own reality if you just apply your mind and imagination to it.


And you know what, if this works for you then more power to you.
My reply to folks though when they bring up "The Secret" is this.
We are already manifesting our reality through how we have been programmed our whole life.
And you may attempt to overlay another message on top of that, and that is fine, the problem is this.
Think of your power in terms of light through a projector. You may wish to imagine a completely different movie and manifest that movie on the big screen of your life.
The problem is this. There are already a thousand little projectors broadcasting your life through your subconscious, and these projectors were not programmed by you, they were programmed by society and the untruths that this thread alludes to are currently being manifested not just by an external threat but by our own being. In the end there is only so much light to power the pictures you wish to see manifested on the screen. So until you can take back your light from all of those little projectors running on autopilot, there is usually not enough energy there for you to over ride the movie that is already playing on the big screen.


But, I'm just a silly voice on a forum.
If you feel excited about it then maybe it is the right thing for you to do.
Regardless I wish you nothing but the best. Good luck with your endeavor.

I dunno. I was thinking the other day, about how POWERFUL an awakened human is. I mean, an awakened human..someone who understands what's being done to themselves and the rest of humanity..usually such a person has certain abilities(clairvoyance as an example) beginning to manifest...they see, sense, what those who are still asleep do not. Many of the awakened are here on Avalon.

There's ALWAYS enough energy. One of my meditations is to focus on the singularity at the heart of this(well, every) galaxy. The zero point. I connect to it, and I feel a buzz of power when I do. We are cosmic beings..connected to an endless amount of power and energy. Where we screw up is when we forget that..when we let our opposition make us forget that. We can reclaim that power. We, all humanity, are like "mutants" "x-men", who lost our powers, and are trying to find them again. Some find them quicker than others..but they are there to be found by anyone and everyone. So, yeah, you CAN take back your light from those projectors..you need to remind yourself how powerful you really are, and how weak THEY really are.

the strong don't need to resort to trickery. trickery is all "they" have, because, when in full knowledge of ourselves, with our full range of abilities at our disposal..they can't beat us in a straight-up fight, and they know it.

Renegade members of family of light..system busters..available for altering systems of consciousness in the free-will universe. On call. Hmph. Human souls are the "special forces" of consciousness. WAKE up. Don't GIVE up.

[DNA]

Posted by workingactor (here)
I dunno. I was thinking the other day, about how POWERFUL an awakened human is. I mean, an awakened human..someone who understands what's being done to themselves and the rest of humanity..usually such a person has certain abilities(clairvoyance as an example) beginning to manifest...they see, sense, what those who are still asleep do not. Many of the awakened are here on Avalon.

Devoloping organs of perception not normally in use is what happens when you get to know yourself.
But it doesn't really make you more powerful. In fact, it can be quite debilitating.
Becoming aware of things going on in the etheric makes them more aware of you, and the results can be quite draining.

Posted by workingactor (here)
There's ALWAYS enough energy.

I will state an absolute in accordance with my experience and that is this. Energy is finite, it is the source of struggle on our physical plane as well as on a spiritual plane.
We are surrounded by entities who wish to not act in accordance with Universal law, and those entities are cut off from source, as such they are forced to be parasites.
So in effect, we are surrounded by parasites.

Posted by workingactor (here)
One of my meditations is to focus on the singularity at the heart of this(well, every) galaxy. The zero point. I connect to it, and I feel a buzz of power when I do.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. But unless you can explain to folks how to do this you are merely sharing something antidotal and not supplying a method for folks to better themselves.

Posted by workingactor (here)
We are cosmic beings..connected to an endless amount of power and energy.

Actually we are souls who have chosen to live in a world of extreme limitations in so far as a soul is concerned.
The proof is in our day to day life. What you speak of is fantasy, unless you would like to make a youtube video showing off this unlimited endless energy.
What you speak of is very Hollywood.
What you speak of sounds very much like the mindset humanity is supposed to speak of.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Where we screw up is when we forget that..when we let our opposition make us forget that.

We didn't screw up. We were born into bondage. I choose to believe that we being on earth is a decision, a choice, in order to learn under these unique conditions.

Posted by workingactor (here)
We can reclaim that power. We, all humanity, are like "mutants" "x-men", who lost our powers, and are trying to find them again.

This sounds like something I would hear on an infomercial from Tony Robbins.
I can appreciate the call for action, but I'm not sure how based in reality this is.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Some find them quicker than others..but they are there to be found by anyone and everyone. So, yeah, you CAN take back your light from those projectors..you need to remind yourself how powerful you really are, and how weak THEY really are.

There are two methods for obtaining the spiritual energy necessary for consciousness and life. You can either connect to source-(GOD), or you can steal the energy from those who are connected to source-(God).


And in the case of mankind, we GIVE our energy to those who would take it.
Because we have been programmed to do so.
And until you realize how you have been tricked you will lack the mental capacity to recognize the landscape that this is all taking place on.

Posted by workingactor (here)
the strong don't need to resort to trickery. trickery is all "they" have, because, when in full knowledge of ourselves, with our full range of abilities at our disposal..they can't beat us in a straight-up fight, and they know it.

I'm sorry but strong is a relative term. And I believe the phrase "there are no rules in love and war" applies.


As a matter of fact being concerned with "fair" is a socially planted ideal that causes folks to dwell in/on vicitimization.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Renegade members of family of light..system busters..available for altering systems of consciousness in the free-will universe. On call. Hmph. Human souls are the "special forces" of consciousness. WAKE up. Don't GIVE up.

I appreciate the sentiment, but this sounds like cheer motivation at a high school pep rally. This is a go-team attempt.
In my opinion one of the great tools by those in power is in perpetuating the falsehood that liberation and autonomy are as easily attained as flipping a switch or changing one's thinking to being overly positive.
Sobriety and pragmatism are needed above all else in order to see what is going on. It is this false optimism that makes folks easy marks for the con game that is going on. And the con-men that are sent to do their jobs find it so much easier when folks are perpetuating this mindset.

[Sean]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by workingactor (here)
I dunno. I was thinking the other day, about how POWERFUL an awakened human is. I mean, an awakened human..someone who understands what's being done to themselves and the rest of humanity..usually such a person has certain abilities(clairvoyance as an example) beginning to manifest...they see, sense, what those who are still asleep do not. Many of the awakened are here on Avalon.

Devoloping organs of perception not normally in use is what happens when you get to know yourself.
But it doesn't really make you more powerful. In fact, it can be quite debilitating.
Becoming aware of things going on in the etheric makes them more aware of you, and the results can be quite draining.

Posted by workingactor (here)
There's ALWAYS enough energy.

I will state an absolute in accordance with my experience and that is this. Energy is finite, it is the source of struggle on our physical plane as well as on a spiritual plane.
We are surrounded by entities who wish to not act in accordance with Universal law, and those entities are cut off from source, as such they are forced to be parasites.
So in effect, we are surrounded by parasites.

Posted by workingactor (here)
One of my meditations is to focus on the singularity at the heart of this(well, every) galaxy. The zero point. I connect to it, and I feel a buzz of power when I do.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. But unless you can explain to folks how to do this you are merely sharing something antidotal and not supplying a method for folks to better themselves.

Posted by workingactor (here)
We are cosmic beings..connected to an endless amount of power and energy.

Actually we are souls who have chosen to live in a world of extreme limitations in so far as a soul is concerned.
The proof is in our day to day life. What you speak of is fantasy, unless you would like to make a youtube video showing off this unlimited endless energy.
What you speak of is very Hollywood.
What you speak of sounds very much like the mindset humanity is supposed to speak of.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Where we screw up is when we forget that..when we let our opposition make us forget that.

We didn't screw up. We were born into bondage. I choose to believe that we being on earth is a decision, a choice, in order to learn under these unique conditions.

Posted by workingactor (here)
We can reclaim that power. We, all humanity, are like "mutants" "x-men", who lost our powers, and are trying to find them again.

This sounds like something I would hear on an infomercial from Tony Robbins.
I can appreciate the call for action, but I'm not sure how based in reality this is.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Some find them quicker than others..but they are there to be found by anyone and everyone. So, yeah, you CAN take back your light from those projectors..you need to remind yourself how powerful you really are, and how weak THEY really are.

There are two methods for obtaining the spiritual energy necessary for consciousness and life. You can either connect to source-(GOD), or you can steal the energy from those who are connected to source-(God).


And in the case of mankind, we GIVE our energy to those who would take it.
Because we have been programmed to do so.
And until you realize how you have been tricked you will lack the mental capacity to recognize the landscape that this is all taking place on.

Posted by workingactor (here)
the strong don't need to resort to trickery. trickery is all "they" have, because, when in full knowledge of ourselves, with our full range of abilities at our disposal..they can't beat us in a straight-up fight, and they know it.

I'm sorry but strong is a relative term. And I believe the phrase "there are no rules in love and war" applies.


As a matter of fact being concerned with "fair" is a socially planted ideal that causes folks to dwell in/on vicitimization.

Posted by workingactor (here)
Renegade members of family of light..system busters..available for altering systems of consciousness in the free-will universe. On call. Hmph. Human souls are the "special forces" of consciousness. WAKE up. Don't GIVE up.

I appreciate the sentiment, but this sounds like cheer motivation at a high school pep rally. This is a go-team attempt.
In my opinion one of the great tools by those in power is in perpetuating the falsehood that liberation and autonomy are as easily attained as flipping a switch or changing one's thinking to being overly positive.
Sobriety and pragmatism are needed above all else in order to see what is going on. It is this false optimism that makes folks easy marks for the con game that is going on. And the con-men that are sent to do their jobs find it so much easier when folks are perpetuating this mindset.

How does being as negative as you are(it's way past being sober and pragmatic) help? how does that "move the football" one inch downfield?

[DNA]

Posted by workingactor (here)
How does being as negative as you are(it's way past being sober and pragmatic) help? how does that "move the football" one inch downfield?

I think our differences here are the outlook as to how this is accomplished.
You seem to be of the opinion that this is a group activity.
I'm of the opinion that it is not.
I'm of the opinion that the only progress that counts is that which is done on one's own.
I'm of the opinion that there are no teachers, for the locks that hold back our totality and our completeness are so singularly unique no two are the same.
We simply view this topic completely different.
I view this topic as is stated in my signature, the entire battle is within yourself.

[triquetra]

once "done" waking up (meaning: far enough along with the process), there is a project we all need to work on together to accomplish. symbolically represented over here
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it's nothing to do with any particular messenger, as the participants all become the exact same messenger(s).
it's to do with restoring the timeline related to the intended destinies of our civilizations, which has been pushed down, sabotaged, tampered with, manipulated at every turn, every step of the way, for hundreds and thousands of years.

how does the project work? well, it is taking time to lay out the explanation, and to make sure it has a chance to succeed (by presenting arguments to would-be saboteurs of why it is in the mutual interest of all parties to not do so, no matter what they may have thought).

it has to do with extending the alignment that comes from awakening to form larger structures between us all at various energetic levels. it can be done completely naturally. it can also be enhanced significantly with use of specific technologies combined in specific ways.

it all begins with a few people being aligned enough to be able to contribute their own connections to Source energy and to be willing to participate in such a project in the first place, to trust in that project organizer that their intentions are good.

the one catch to this is that there is no one specific project organizer after all, only various representatives of the collective consciousness that is the real origin of the Source energy and is the conscious body which has the real intention for this project to be a success.

the collective consciousness originates from one branch of possible future timelines in which our path from the present moment leads down that branch and so the energy existent in that future branch can also travel "back in time" to the present moment.

it would be cut off if that branch of future timelines were made to be no longer possible but that has not been the case despite all attempts by malevolent (in reality, misguided) forces that sought that to be the case.

but because it's still there, providing the possibility for such messages to continue to be generated, it is still within the realm of possibility for our future. and we can get there by working together, in an organized enough manner.

this is what to do after waking up. participate in anything that vibrates with an energy common to this single project with countless seeds cast back in time to various points along the timeline. it could be the project facet of this messenger here and now, or the one of another messenger who is working on something different, like a transformational festival, a group meditation, a way of healing the earth, anything at all really.