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    Default Re: Is The Fukushima Radiation Being Blown Out of Proportion?

    The pictures in this report of last year are blown out of proportion too? Its says even the Pacific sharks are getting cancer.

    https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/493


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    Coast To Coast AM - March 31, 2016 Fukushima & Nuclear Issues

    Linda starts aprox 39 mins in.....



    Published on 1 Apr 2016


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    Fukushima's Harsh Warning by Chris Busby 2016 HD



    Published on 9 Feb 2016

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/authors/christopher-busby/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Busby
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)

    give NUMBERS not baseless words...
    All the numbers are in this audio.

    Coast to Coast - Linda Howe on Fukushima Mar 31 2016 - Hour 2.mp3
    yet no one here cares enough to post them, when they should be the first thing posted in any type of thread like this...

    You don't say that "houston has massive flooding" when in reality its 3 inches of standing water (by the way, that is an EXCELLENT analogy for what is going on here).

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    I think that's the point radiation is everywhere , the figures are confusing.
    If you are going to champion this cause, it is your obligation to learn about radiation levels, they are NOT confusing, just a bit complex. Otherwise you are ignorant to the topic and are being a mouthpiece for who knows what agenda (I'm pretty sure I do, and have detailed it in this thread).

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    The pictures in this report of last year are blown out of proportion too? Its says even the Pacific sharks are getting cancer.

    https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/493

    yes, absolutely... the fact that you don't know this is a bit scary... a random picture means nothing with out a LOT of context.

    I"ve seen fish like that before 2010 before 2005... before 2000.... I grew up fishing on the pacific coast (boat or scuba-spear fishing... terribly cold, I don't recommend) the number of variables is almost inconceivable and not even mentioned in the article you posted... that's as biased and "blown out of proportion" as it gets.

    did you seriously believe this from the article?:

    Quote Star Fish - are supposed to have FIVE legs. The shape of a star. Look what radiation did to this one:
    Do you know what that is? a NORMAL sunflower starfish... N O R M A L



    http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/ani...arfish-species
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    Quote If you are going to champion this cause
    I told you before on the other thread I am not championing this cause . I am trying
    to find out what is happening , You may say Dr.Busby above is an alarmist but as
    an independent scientist he is not bound by the interests of the nuclear industry.
    He may be right or wrong in his assumptions but is worth a listen imo.

    As you know I live a few of miles from Hinkley point power station , which is
    about to build a new reactor and will provide many jobs in the area , so socially
    and economically is a very important project.I can have an interest without having
    to be an expert.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Quote If you are going to champion this cause
    I told you before on the other thread I am not championing this cause . I am trying
    to find out what is happening ,

    every article you post has one thrust: fear porn... nothing from "the other side"

    so if you are trying to figure it out, you are doing it wrong.

    I shouldn't be the only rational voice here.

    when trying to discover something, you look at facts, not emotion. PERIOD.
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    Quote every article you post has one thrust: fear porn... nothing from "the other side"
    I would post some of Ions comments if they were available, they certainly
    don't think its a problem. The trouble is there is not many parts I can post.
    Also this is bringing in ' non -physical ' which some peoples and elites have
    been talking to for thousands of years. But you cannot bring this up in scientific
    circles openly , even though Ion claims many listen to their shows.

    This is a short clip from 2011 ? It does not give you a great deal other than a
    reference to the changing global radiation levels.


    Ion speaking to Ebben Ray.

    http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2011...radiation.html

    H197 Radiation




    iON talks about the fire at Los Alamos National Labortories, the flooding of the Fort Calhoun nuclear
    power plant in Nebraska, Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant and the significance of H197 at this moment.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Stabilizing H197

    17 March 2014

    http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2014...zing-h197.html
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    Aprox 41 mins in they visit RAF Bentwaters to bunkers that held nuclear
    warheads in the cold war ( Rendlesham UFO incident) and claims they did
    not house these weapons , certainly at the time. Which is probably more
    interesting for me but that's another subject.....They finish off talking about
    Thoriam reactors a possible missed more reliable source and transmutation,
    which actually can turn lead to gold. But is being researched into getting rid
    of nuclear waste.



    Is Nuclear Power Safe - BBC Documentary from around sept 2011 ?



    Published on 23 Jan 2016


    Jim Al-Khalili
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Al-Khalili
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    I don't understand why the report had this picture of a species of starfish with 18 tanticles to scare people. May be it is disinfo to discredit the real info. More scary, I find, is that starfish are dying en masse, with many of them having fewer than 5 legs. Their legs appeared to walk away and still alive.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/046474_st..._syndrome.html

    http://voices.nationalgeographic.com...es-scientists/

    From .nationalgeographic.com:
    “[The starfish] seem to waste away, ‘deflate’ a little, and then just … disintegrate. The arms just detach, and the central disc falls apart. It seems to happen rapidly, and not just dead animals undergoing decomposition, as I observed single arms clinging to the rock faces, tube feet still moving, with the skin split, gills flapping in the current. I’ve seen single animals in the past looking like this, and the first dive this morning I thought it might be crabbers chopping them up and tossing them off the rocks. Then we did our second dive in an area closed to fishing, and in absolutely amazing numbers. The bottom from about 20 to 50 feet [6 to 15 meters] was absolutely littered with arms, oral discs, tube feet, gonads and gills … it was kind of creepy.”


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    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    I don't understand why the report had this picture of a species of starfish with 18 tanticles to scare people. May be it is disinfo to discredit the real info. More scary, I find, is that starfish are dying en masse, with many of them having fewer than 5 legs. Their legs appeared to walk away and still alive.
    Ocean die offs have happened for a long time, you cannot guess at the cause just based on some pictures or anecdotal stories; this is not related to radiation, more likely low O2 levels (typical of most die offs) which indicates a change in the zooplankton. We are going through a massive change in the caribbean right now... entire banks of reef are dying off due to the change in the zooplankton, this is a very very complex ecosystem.

    I agree it's a concern, but I would not dare speculate on the causation.
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Cider, that CDC article sounds a bit biased, or loaded. They clearly state,
    Quote Radioactive materials, like polonium-210 and lead-210 are found naturally in the soil and air. They are also found in the high-phosphate fertilizers that farmers use
    on their crops.
    Ergo the radioactive materials must get into every food source and lungful of air, smoking may compund the problem certainly but so does eating a salad (in terms of radiation exposure) if that reasoning is taken to a conclusion.

    In regards to LMH's figures, I'm afraid I have lost a lot of confidence in her.


    Nice post Ewan.
    I was going to post about this last night but I had crying babies.


    The soil tobacco is grown in is kind of a huge deal.
    The petroleum bases fertilizers increase the radioactive element a great deal. Especially the polonium content.


    Radioactive Fertilizer—The Surprising Primary Cause of Lung Cancer in Smokers
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ertilizer.aspx
    Quote It's well-recognized that smoking cigarettes can cause lung cancer. What isn't clear is exactly what it is in the cigarette or its smoke that causes it. Interestingly, while it may seem obvious that added chemicals would be prime culprits, research suggests it may be something else entirely.
    This "something else" in turn could also have potential ramifications for our food supply, and might be an indicator of potential carcinogenicity in genetically engineered foods as well as tobacco, although there's no evidence of such a link as of yet.
    The factor I'm talking about is polonium-210—a highly radioactive element1 that releases alpha particles as it decays. It's also chemically toxic.2 While alpha particles cannot penetrate deeply into your body, they can cause serious damage to cells they do come into contact with.
    While naturally present in small amounts in the environment, one of the primary sources of exposure is via calcium phosphate fertilizers, used on tobacco fields and food crops respectively.
    Quote The Hidden Threat of Radioactive Fertilizer Contamination
    Research suggests that it's the radiation from these fertilizers that appear to cause the most lung damage, and are the primary cause of cancer in smokers.3, 4, 5 In fact, polonium is the only component of cigarette smoke shown to produce cancer in laboratory animals.6 As noted in a 2009 study:7
    "In a person smoking 1 1/2 packs of cigarettes per day, the radiation dose to the bronchial epithelium in areas of bifurcation is 8000 mrem per year -- the equivalent of the dose to the skin from 300 x-ray films of the chest per year."
    According to a 2011 report published in the journal Nicotine and Tobacco Research,8 secret internal documents obtained from the major tobacco industries in 1998 reveal that the industry was well aware of the presence of this radioactive element in cigarettes as early as 1959.
    "Acid wash was discovered in 1980 to be highly effectively in removing polonium-210 from the tobacco leaves; however, the industry avoided its use for concerns that acid media would ionize nicotine converting it into a poorly absorbable form into the brain of smokers thus depriving them of the much sought after instant 'nicotine kick' sensation," the researchers noted.
    The report concluded that "the evidence of lung cancer risk caused by cigarette smoke radioactivity is compelling enough to warrant its removal." Now, if tobacco leaves become a source of cancer-causing radioactivity due to the fertilizers used, what about food grown with these phosphate fertilizers?
    Remarkably, according to a report by the Florida Institute of Phosphate Research,9 American meat products and dairy may expose your organs to radiation doses that are equivalent to the dose received by smokers via cigarette smoke. I bet that might come as a huge shock to you.



    Just to clarify, if you smoke organic tobacco, and you eat organic veggies you can help yourself a great deal by avoiding all of this.
    Organic specifies that the fertilizer has to be organic as well.
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    Residents Living South of the Fukushima Dai-ichi Have Minimal Internal Radiation Exposure

    October 20, 2015
    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0140482

    Areas to the south of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. WBC measurement were performed at the Jyoban Hospital in central Iwaki, which is located about 50 km south of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Study subjects were mainly hospital visitors from Iwaki and its suburbs.
    The purpose of this post is to relate findings published (open access) in the peer-reviewed journal PLOSOne by Akiyama and colleagues who investigated internal radiocesium contamination in residents living south of the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant. This post is the most recent in a series dedicated to sharing the results of scientific research into the impact of the nuclear power plant disaster on ecosystem and public health. The Akiyama study builds on recent work by this group using a whole body counter (WBC) to look for internal contamination of residents living near (north and west) the reactors at the time of the meltdowns. Measurements were made on 9,206 affected individuals, including 6,446 school children (4-15 years) living south of the reactors or evacuated to Iwaki city following the bulk of radionuclide releases. Measurements began one year after the accident and continued for two years. The authors conclude that, despite lack of data for the first year following the disaster, internal doses experienced by residents to the south of the FNPP were minimal. This suggests that efforts to mitigate foodborne exposure have been largely successful and that nearly all the annual effective doses for this segment of the population more than one year after the disaster are likely due to external exposure.
    Study Location

    The study by Akiyama et al. can be found here as an open-access, peer reviewed publication in PLOSOne for anyone wishing to access the original paper and data. The Jyoban Hospital, Iwaki city was the site of WBC measurements and its proximity to the FNPP and air dose rate resulting from the background and radionculides from the disaster are shown on the map below:
    Areas to the south of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in relation to air dose rate and the location of Jyoban Hospital.
    .The number of visitors to the hospital, their age and whether they had detectable levels of 137Cs (detection limit 250 Bq body-1) are shown in the figure below:
    Monthly visitors and those with detectable levels of 137-Cs (detection limit 250 Bq/body).
    Results
    Children
    Two children among the 6,446 children examined showed Cs-137 contamination levels that were over the detection limit, but Cs-134 levels were found above the detection limit.

    A total of 6,446 children were tested, and only two boys (11 and 15 years old) were found to have detectable internal radiocesium (see Figure above). 137Cs in these two were just over the detection limit: 251 and 259 Bq body-1. This level of contamination would result in internal annual doses of 0.018 and 0.011 mSv year-1. 134Cs levels were below the detection limit of 220 Bq body-1. 99.9% of the children had no detectable internal Cs contamination and no other radionuclides except naturally occurring 40K were detected. Maximum annual effective doses from radiocesium, assuming conservatively that the children had a level corresponding to the detection limit of the WBC, were calculated as 0.03, 0.02, and 0.01 mSv year-1 for children aged 6, 10, and 15 years, respectively.
    Adults
    Of the 2,760 adults examined, 35 (1.26%) had very low levels of Cs-137 contamination. Cs-134 levels were below the detection limit.

    Unlike the children a larger proportion of the adults (1.26% or 35/2760) had detectable levels of internal Cs contamination. Detectable radiocesium contamination was seen in adults throughout the screening period (ending in November 2014). 137Cs found in this 1.26% were in the range of 250 to 859 Bq body-1 with a median value of 318 Bq body-1. This level of contamination would mean doses of 0.008 to 0.028 mSv year-1, with a median dose of 0.011 mSv year-1.
    Summary and Conclusions

    Akiyama and colleagues found that:
    1. 2 children had 137-Cesium (137Cs, half life ~30 years) above the detection limit (250 Bq body-1) but no detectable 134-Cs (134Cs, half life ~ 2 years) early in the program
    2. 1.3% of adults (35 of 2,760) had detectable internal contamination but only for 137Cs (range 250-859 Bq body-1)
    3. only one of these adults still had detectable internal contamination after the first year
    4. other than naturally occurring 40K no other gamma emitting isotopes were detected
    5. conservative maximum effective doses experienced by the schoolchildren and adults from internal radiocesium were 0.029 and 0.028 mSv year-1 respectively and far below the 1 mSv year-1 set by the Japanese Government

    These findings suggest that the internal Cs contamination in residents of areas south of the nuclear plant is minimal. It appears that programs that encourage consumption of only inspected foods and/or commercially distributed food from unaffected areas has been successful in controlling radio-contamination and that public education about radio-contamination and mitigation strategies have been similarly successful. Whole body measurements of radio-contamination suggest that annual effective doses for this segment of the population more than one year after the disaster are likely to be due to external exposure. Further work to monitor the health of affected individuals and their exposure to artificial radionuclides through time will be invaluable toward determining the impact of the disaster on public health.

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Just to clarify, if you smoke organic tobacco, and you eat organic veggies you can help yourself a great deal by avoiding all of this.
    Organic specifies that the fertilizer has to be organic as well.
    if it's healthy soil you are still going to get some small dose of radiation.. maybe .05 microsieverts or so (which is stupid to even measure it's so low).

    But seriously, radiation (at apropriate levels) is VERY healthy for you... so depriving your self of all radiation is almost as bad as getting too much.... (same as everything in reality: moderation in everything).

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    These findings suggest that the internal Cs contamination in residents of areas south of the nuclear plant is minimal.
    Minimal? HA! I'd say statistically non-existent.
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    Some really good stuff posted by TargeT over on Cider's thread, you can go there by hitting the link on TargeT's quote hyperlink.


    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)



    just look at those numbers!!!!!!!!!

    For reference, here's the scale:

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    I have read for years that the tobacco is one thing, if heavily sprayed and containing additives, but the paper is also sprayed with opiates. This has contributed to the addictive effect. If you roll your own and get straight organic tobacco, you will discover tobacco is actually a healing herb. This comes on the heels of everything Big Pharma promotes. The main drugs that have been on the market for years contain herbs that actually heal but the components/additives twist and distort their meaning and create a poison to disrupt.
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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Some really good stuff posted by TargeT over on Cider's thread, you can go there by hitting the link on TargeT's quote hyperlink.


    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)



    just look at those numbers!!!!!!!!!

    For reference, here's the scale:
    You know what is scary as hell DNA? And thanks for the map. We live within the 50 mile mark of San Onofre Nuclear Plant that sits closed down probably still leaking on a beach. Its the elephant in the city. A story that curdles my blood occurred about 3-4 yrs ago. It was in the town newspaper. A family was walking along that beach near the closed plant. The woman saw beautiful shiny unusual rocks and put them in her pocket. Well, those rocks radiated a hole in her leg. Seriously.
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    Quote Posted by bettye198 (here)
    I have read for years that the tobacco is one thing, if heavily sprayed and containing additives, but the paper is also sprayed with opiates. This has contributed to the addictive effect. If you roll your own and get straight organic tobacco, you will discover tobacco is actually a healing herb. This comes on the heels of everything Big Pharma promotes. The main drugs that have been on the market for years contain herbs that actually heal but the components/additives twist and distort their meaning and create a poison to disrupt.
    Definitely a no on the opiates sprayed on paper... nicotine and the humans propensity for habit forming need no help when getting people addicted to tobacco.

    I agree, the stuff sprayed on the plant is the issue (to include it's petro-chemical based fertilizers), not the plant itself.

    Quote Posted by bettye198 (here)
    You know what is scary as hell DNA? And thanks for the map. We live within the 50 mile mark of San Onofre Nuclear Plant that sits closed down probably still leaking on a beach. Its the elephant in the city. A story that curdles my blood occurred about 3-4 yrs ago. It was in the town newspaper. A family was walking along that beach near the closed plant. The woman saw beautiful shiny unusual rocks and put them in her pocket. Well, those rocks radiated a hole in her leg. Seriously.
    Note: eating a banana will give you more radiation (on average) than living near (within 50 miles) a Nuclear power plant for ONE YEAR.

    so...

    Did you see this womans leg?

    I heave a BEAUTIFUL shiny rock (polished in fact) I get complements on it all the time. It's uranium ore (which would never be out side of a plant... all uranium used is refined into RODS not "rocks" in breeder nuclear power plants).

    it would look like boring metal actually:


    My rock is mounted in a pendant and I wore it for 2 years straight until having to cut it off recently for non-related issues (it was visible while I had my uniform on.). I haven't gotten the "annual flu" I used to get like clock work for the 34 years of my life previously... for the last 3 years I haven't been sick at all.

    That's my anecdotal story; oh my wife also wore one and it cleared up toenail fungus that she could NOT get rid of and had lived her whole life with.
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    Slightly OT but, you will get most of your radiation from...sleeping beside another human being.

    As for tobacco, no opiates but generally around 3,000 extra ingredients from polonium to chocolate, gunpowder, carpet glue, fiberglass in the filters to cut your lungs, varying levels of added nicotine--to give you minor withdrawls and make you buy more. That "stuff" is what's really bad for you; plain tobacco isn't exactly good, but mostly just bad in the way inhaling any byproducts of combustion is.

    That's why different brands of cigarettes are so different from each other, different recipes. Confirmed to me by someone who worked in the factory.

    Filters were added to filter tobacco pieces from getting in the mouth. They were added without looking at potential health effects, then were later claimed to be beneficial, still without any consideration of what it might really be.

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    Quote Posted by bettye198 (here)
    You know what is scary as hell DNA? And thanks for the map. We live within the 50 mile mark of San Onofre Nuclear Plant that sits closed down probably still leaking on a beach. Its the elephant in the city. A story that curdles my blood occurred about 3-4 yrs ago. It was in the town newspaper. A family was walking along that beach near the closed plant. The woman saw beautiful shiny unusual rocks and put them in her pocket. Well, those rocks radiated a hole in her leg. Seriously.
    Hi Bettye198


    I appreciate your contribution here, but apparently the rocks that the woman picked up on the beach that burned her contained phosphorous and this was what burned her so bad. The phosphorous in the rocks had somehow caught fire. So I have to give it up to TargeT again, he kind of called that one.



    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...ly-burning-her

    Beach rocks in woman's pocket catch fire, severely burning her

    By U.S. News
    Thursday May 17, 2012 10:29 AM
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    This image provided by the Orange County Health Care Agency shows rocks picked up on a Southern California beach by a woman, which later ignited inside her shorts, leaving her with severe burns. Authorities say phosphorous may have coated these beach rocks.


    By NBC News and msnbc.com staff
    Updated at 2:40 p.m. ET: SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. -- Rocks that a woman was carrying in her cargo shorts caught fire after a trip to a California beach, leaving her with severe burns, and authorities are investigating whether phosphorous on the stones is to blame.


    Authorities say the woman was carrying stones that her children picked up during a family trip to Trestles Beach at San Onofre State Beach on Saturday.
    As the 43-year-old woman stood in the kitchen about an hour after returning her San Clemente home, her shorts caught fire, the Orange County Register reported. Here's the Register's description of the panicked scene, citing Orange County Fire Authority Capt. Marc Stone:
    The woman tried to stop, drop and roll but was unsuccessful in getting the flames out, Stone said.
    Her husband also tried to help and got second-degree burns when he tried to pull the shorts off, Stone said. The rocks, described as small, the size of a hamburger patty, smooth and orange and green in color, fell from the shorts onto the floor and continued to burn the wood floor and fill the house with smoke.
    The man got the shorts off his wife and was hosing her down outside when firefighters arrived. The woman suffered second- and third-degree burns on her right leg from her thigh to her knee and on her right arm, the Register report said. The husband had second-degree burns on his arm.
    "I talked to the paramedic who treated her, and in his 27 years in responding to calls near the beach, he's never seen this," Stone told the Register. "The rocks were still smoking when firefighters took them to the hospital."
    The rocks were given to the Orange County Health Care Agency for testing, Stone told NBCLosAngeles.com.
    Denise Fennessey, assistant director of environmental health at the agency, told the AP that initial tests indicated that two rocks had phosphorous on them but they'll be sent to a state lab for verification.
    After some rocks spontaneously ignite in woman's pocket, burning her and damaging her home, the hunt is on to find the cause of this unusual incident. KNBC's Vikki Vargas reports.

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    San Onofre State Beach is in San Diego County near Camp Pendleton, a Marine base. A military spokesman told the AP that the base is trying to determine whether military material might have contaminated the area.
    "There is phosphorous that naturally occurs on the sand at the beach, but no one has ever heard of pants catching fire," Stone told the Register.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Hey DNA. I watched a documentary a couple years ago about a scientist who claimed nuclear reactors were so harmless he actually swam in the reactor water. I spent a few minutes looking for it but I have to get to work so don't have time to keep looking. I'll try again after work today if no one has found it by then.
    The thread is here:
    A video they won't want you to see (Galen Winsor: nuclear scare scam)

    I don't believe a word of it, but that's the reference!



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    Chernobyl 30 years on and the tragic generation of children blighted by a merciless cancer cloud
    23 APR 2016
    BY TOM PARRY
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...ration-7817717

    This is without a doubt an article that will stir emotions, with many photos of bald children in cancer wards.
    But it also highlights one of the questions this issue continue to bring up for me which is that we still don't really know what effects long term exposure to manmade radiation has on living things, and we don't know that much about the gradual mutation process and how harmful it may be.
    Personally, I would rather be exposed to as few manmade toxins as possible, and as many combinations of manmade toxins as possible, which are even worse when combined.
    I specify manmade radiation because it seems likely to me that it may prove to have different effects on lifeforms than natural forms of radiation.
    I don't think our science is currently advanced enough or the research ongoing long enough to know much for certain as yet.
    It certainly seems likely that certain individuals (like Target--who I think is well-meaning and not a shill, btw) are less susceptible to radiation than others, (as well as the matter of individual health, evidently there are lots of different sources of DNA currently evolving on the planet with different strengths and susceptibilities).
    But more importantly, that children and especially fetuses are much more susceptible, as are certain other vulnerable life forms.
    It's certainly welcome news if the problems of radiation exposure are not as bad as once thought, but the fact that we still have masses of nuclear plants built on the same design as Fukushima that may soon be crippled too, causing more hugely expensive and dangerous problems for the planet still must be the paramount consideration, imho.
    To continue planning on nuclear energy as a primary source of energy when so many alternatives are available and more coming soon, hopefully, of a much higher order is madness, and that should not be minimized.
    I have friends in San Diego, and while it has been a comfort to me to know that the ongoing problems of radiation migrating from Fukushima to the West Coast MAY not be as bad as I originally thought (though I'm not convinced) and the fact that San Onofre is still likely a disaster in the making continues to be a worry.
    And I don't see any solution to that in the near future--in fact, it seems more likely that at least one of those plants in the US is going to blow before any changes can be implemented, and even more likely that more of the plants in Japan are going to blow, as well, before we will see an end to nuclear plants altogether.



    Quote Cancer-stricken youngster Misha Kozlov has never heard of the Chernobyl disaster.

    But the radioactive cloud that ­engulfed his parents’ home 30 years ago has blighted his short life.

    Aged only four, he has just completed several courses of chemotherapy and has had a huge tumour removed from his leg.

    Misha is from the East European region that was worst affected by the Chernobyl nuclear power plant ­meltdown on April 26 1986.

    Red-eyed with emotion and fatigue, his mum Elena, 35, says: “I think Misha’s cancer is very probably caused by radiation.

    “In our town there are a lot of children who have cancer and I think it is because of radiation, but what can you do.”

    She shrugs, resigned to her family’s awful fate. In the busy Children’s Cancer Hospital in the Belarussian capital Minsk, her story is typical.

    Scores of mums and dads whose kids are patients were children themselves when the worst nuclear disaster in history stunned the world.

    Now their offspring are developing rare cancers. Although no one will say officially, there is widespread fear that radioactive poison is being genetically passed on to the next generation.

    Cancer figures in Belarus, which sits between Poland, Russia and Ukraine, rocketed in the late 1980s and early 1990s and then tailed off.

    But last year there was an increase of nearly 20% in child cancer cases.
    In the Children’s Cancer Hospital the corridors are full of shaven-headed children with leukaemia awaiting bone marrow transplants.

    Others are struggling under the intense treatment regime for thyroid cancer, which in most other countries affects very few under-18s.

    The hospital’s normal capacity is 180, but there are currently 200 children here.

    Elena, an accountant who was five when her country was engulfed in a toxic cloud, said: “In my friend’s family there was another girl who had brain cancer. She died aged 15."

    Minsk Children's Cancer Hospitall: The children being treated at the hospital have been born to parents who were kids themselves when the disaster hit
    “I have been living at this hospital with Misha since October last year, which has been a real struggle.

    “Coming to terms with your little boy having a tumour is not easy. I am not angry about the radiation though. There is no point. It is all around us and we cannot move away.”

    Belarus, part of the old Soviet Union when the Chernobyl plant caught fire and exploded, bore the brunt.

    In the path of the prevailing wind that devastating day, it took 70% of the fallout from the stricken power plant. A fifth of the country’s agricultural land was contaminated.

    The overall effect on future generations isn’t known yet.But experts say only 10% of overall problems caused by radioactive isotopes like the Caesium-137 that drenched parts of Belarus will be seen in the first generation.

    By 2050, experts estimate new debilitating health problems will emerge. And the lethal substance will pollute around Chernobyl for up to 320 years.

    A map of Belarus shows dark purple hotspots of ongoing intense radiation in the south of the country.


    Back in 1986, the Communist authorities did their best to dampen fears while the power station was still ablaze and spewing out radiation.

    Misha Kozlov is aged 4. Misha's family says they are not angry about his cancer as there is nothing they can do.

    People like Elena’s parents stayed at home, oblivious to the danger. Today some villages around the city of Gomel, which lies just over the border from Chernobyl in northern Ukraine, are abandoned.

    Another patient at the children’s hospital is Yvgeny Revtovich, whose dad Dmitri was born the year after the explosion and grew up in Gomel.

    A poignant birthday balloon is tied to Yvgeny’s bed. He turned six last Tuesday.

    “Yvgeny has leukaemia,” factory worker Dmitri explains.“I will never know for sure whether it is radiation that has caused his sickness because no one tells us. Obviously it is very strange that so many children from our town have leukaemia.”

    Yvgeny may be lucky. A bone marrow donor has been found for him in Germany.

    In the same ward five-year-old Anya Kastrova does circuits on a tricycle but her mischievous giggle disguises the gravity of her condition.

    Anya has a sarcoma – a rare cancer that develops in multiple parts of the body.Her mother, also Elena, 37, said: “I am almost sure it is from radiation.” Another girl, Veronica, 13, darts about, cuddling younger kids.

    She was found to have a tumour in her stomach at the orphanage where she had been abandoned by her alcoholic parents.

    Others, slowed down by having to walk while still attached to a drip, are visibly dazed by strong medication.At the hospital the tale emerges of another woman from Gomel whose child mysteriously developed thyroid cancer even though she had been living in Russia, 10 hours drive away, for the last 15 years.

    Her little boy, whose dad is from India, became ill when they went back to Gomel to visit relatives.

    Suspicion immediately falls on radiation. Meanwhile families at the hospital have been provided with pre-fabricated cabins to live in while their children are have treatment.

    Funding for these vital homes has come from a small British charity, Chernobyl Children’s Project.

    The organisation was set up by Linda Walker, from Glossop, Derbyshire, in 1995.It provides a lifeline for hundreds of youngsters whose lives have been scarred by radioactive fallout.

    Linda said: “It is 30 years since Chernobyl but the children of Belarus need our help as much as ever. Many of the children in the care of our Home Hospice team in Gomel have genetic disorders.

    “Although not all will be linked to Chernobyl, there has been a very significant rise in the numbers of children born with genetic disorders.

    “There has definitely been an increase in brain and spinal birth defects because of Chernobyl.”

    Invisible in the soil, the slowly-decomposing particles of radioactive waste from Chernobyl are still stalking their innocent victims.
    Each breath a gift...
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