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    Do you have any updates Cayman?

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    Another thing you might be able to enlighten us on Cayman...

    Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House



    Matthew Robertson
    Epoch Times
    Jan 23, 2011

    Lang Lang the pianist says he chose it. Chairman Hu Jintao recognized it as soon as he heard it. Patriotic Chinese Internet users were delighted as soon as they saw the videos online. Early morning TV viewers in China knew it would be played an hour or two beforehand. At the White House State dinner on Jan. 19, about six minutes into his set, Lang Lang began tapping out a famous anti-American propaganda melody from the Korean War: the theme song to the movie “Battle on Shangganling Mountain.”

    The film depicts a group of “People’s Volunteer Army” soldiers who are first hemmed in at Shanganling (or Triangle Hill) and then, when reinforcements arrive, take up their rifles and counterattack the U.S. military “jackals.”

    The movie and the tune are widely known among Chinese, and the song has been a leading piece of anti-American propaganda by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for decades. CCP propaganda has always referred to the Korean War as the “movement to resist America and help [North] Korea.” The message of the propaganda is that the United States is an enemy—in fighting in the Korean War the United States’ real goal was said to be to invade and conquer China. The victory at Triangle Hill was promoted as a victory over imperialists.

    The song Lang Lang played describes how beautiful China is and then near the end has this verse, “When friends are here, there is fine wine /But if the jackal comes /What greets it is the hunting rifle.” The “jackal” in the song is the United States.

    The name of the song is “My Motherland,” originally titled “Big River.” In an interview broadcast on Phoenix TV, the first thing Lang Lang is quoted as saying is that he chose the piece.

    He then said, “I thought to play ‘My Motherland’ because I think playing the tune at the White House banquet can help us, as Chinese people, feel extremely proud of ourselves and express our feelings through the song. I think it’s especially good. Also, I like the tune in and of itself, every time I hear it I feel extremely moved.”

    He expressed this idea more frankly in a later blog post, writing: “Playing this song praising China to heads of state from around the world seems to tell them that our China is formidable, that our Chinese people are united; I feel deeply honored and proud.”

    Known in Advance

    Whether Lang Lang’s decision to play “My Motherland” was entirely his own is impossible to confirm. That his choice was known in advance to CCP officials is very likely.

    Cheng Xiaonong is a former assistant to former CCP General Secretary Zhao Ziyang. He now lives in New Jersey and is a commentator on Chinese politics.

    Cheng said that “The White House had to report in advance to the Chinese delegation and so the Chinese delegation would have certainly known Lang Lang’s program.”

    Cheng believes, however, that the Chinese delegation would see no reason to suggest a change in the program. “The program is not against the interests of China. In fact, it is the opposite.”

    In addition to the Chinese delegation likely knowing of the program in advance, CCP officials connected to Phoenix TV would also have known.

    Phoenix TV is based in Hong Kong and its signal may be seen throughout China by satellite. Its interview with Lang Lang was broadcast at 7 a.m. Beijing time on Jan. 20, which is 6 p.m. D.C. time on Jan. 19—shortly before the state dinner. The interview was not live—it was filmed on another day in advance of the broadcast.

    Phoenix TV, nominally independent, is known to have very close ties to the CCP. The scholar Anne-Marie Brady, whose research focuses on China’s media and propaganda, has said that Phoenix TV is more loyal to the Chinese regime than the official state-run media.

    At a minimum, the staff at Phoenix TV knew in advance that Lang Lang planned to play the song. Given the close ties between the network and the CCP and the sensitivity of anything broadcast about Hu’s state visit, CCP officials not knowing this in advance would be unusual.

    “My Motherland” having been played at the White House will be seen as a propaganda triumph in China.

    “In the eyes of all Chinese, this will not be seen as anything other than a big insult to the U.S.,” says Yang Jingduan, a Chinese psychiatrist now living in Philadelphia who had in China been a doctor in the Chinese military. “It’s like insulting you in your face and you don’t know it, it’s humiliating.”

    Yang sees Lang Lang choosing this tune as an expression of the deeply anti-American propaganda that is constant in China.

    “This deeply anti-American chauvinism has been fanned by the CCP for years; Lang Lang is expressing the feelings of this generation of angry young people,” Yang said.

    A well-known example of such feelings was seen on Sept. 11, 2001, when Chinese chat rooms were filled with young people celebrating this act of terror as an American defeat.

    Excited at this coup, patriotic Chinese have been circulating the clip for the last several days. One netizen wrote “the right place, right time, right song!”

    The phrase “right place, right time, right song” echoes Chinese propaganda and is a declaration of victory over the United States. Chinese have been taught that the United States lost the Korean War. A U.S. general is quoted in the propaganda as describing the Korean War as being “the wrong war at the wrong time in the wrong place with the wrong enemy,” which is taken as an admission of defeat. In fact, the quote is from Gen. Omar N. Bradley testifying to Congress as to why the United States should not extend the Korean War into China.

    Another Chinese commenting on a forum responded to the Lang Lang performance by writing, “Defeat America, defeat Obama” (writing Obama’s name with the wrong first character, one meaning “sunken” or “dented.”)

    Others wrote comments like: “omg!”; “Didn’t they know?”; “Where was the U.S. foreign affairs?” and “Very good. My impression of Lang Lang has really changed.”

    More moderate Chinese have expressed disappointment at the attitudes of their countrymen.

    A sinovision blog quotes “Professor A” saying : “Everyone knows this Shangganling is from a ‘Resist America, Support Korea’ film, and I think Lang Lang would know that too. If he knew the song’s background and still chose to play it, then you can guess his motivation, or intellectual capacity. If he didn’t know, then mainland China’s education system is in more of a mess than I thought…

    “Suppose for a moment that Obama was invited to a banquet in China, and he invited an American artist who had performed in China for many years to play an American war song against China, what kind of reaction do you think the Chinese government and people would have? … I think the American government still doesn’t know the background of this song—if they knew, wouldn’t they be offended?”

    Humiliating the US
    Whether Chinese officials intended Lang Lang to play this piece, its performance at the White House fits a general pattern of Chinese propaganda attacking the United States. Subtle details are seized on and used to humiliate the United States before the Chinese people.

    When Nixon visited China, a photo was taken of him getting off the plane to greet Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. Nixon has a big smile and extends his hand out to Zhou. Zhou stands with a rigid face and holds his hand close to his body.

    The photo was widely used in all of the Chinese media to help support the idea that Nixon’s visit was a victory for China. Chinese schoolchildren were told, “See how long Nixon’s arm is stretched out? That shows the United States is reaching out to us.”

    When President Obama visited China in November 2009, he toured the Imperial Palace. Obama exited through the Shen Wu Men, which may be translated as Gate of Divine Prowess. CCTV reported that he exited through the Shun Zhen Men, which may be translated as “Gate of Obedience and Purity.”

    In fact, the Gate of Divine Prowess is the outer gate and everyone must exit through it. However, Chinese media would not accord President Obama the honor of going through the “Gate of Divine Prowess.”

    Neither the White House nor the Chinese Embassy responded to phone calls requesting comment on this story.

    Sources;

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/49822/

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    http://www.prisonplanet.com/chinese-...ite-house.html

    Cayman, I Would be interested in hearing your views on the above article i.e. Is their any Truth to what they are saying here?

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    Hi Cayman, what do know about the pyramids in China. Apparently the Chinese government denied they were there, but you can see them in Google Earth....

    http://www.philipcoppens.com/china_pyr.html

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    Cayman your awesome, and spot on my friend!

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    Icecold the Chinese government deny anthing you ask them, is the sky blue you ask? no they reply, look at the Sichuan Earthquake and amount of people killed in comparison to the "Official" amount. And remember the children, after looking at that.

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    to//cayman :when i used to work at a camel station I even interacted with employees of "the gap" when once a year we would go into town and race camels in the alice spring camel cup

    when asked what they do "out there" thier standard reply " I'm a cleaner " when asked what they used to do before they came to work there was various answers such as law enforcement , security and computer science ...

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    I recommend everyone to take a look at this China National advertise which is broadcasting in US and will be broadcasting around the world
    http://video.sina.com.cn/p/news/c/v/...861244063.html

    despite what it say about the politics of China, it's still a beautiful show to learn what China and Chinese people are today, combine what I posted before. you will get a more clear picture of China

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    Another thing you might be able to enlighten us on Cayman...

    Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

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    Cayman, I Would be interested in hearing your views on the above article i.e. Is their any Truth to what they are saying here?

    I have to say: everything it said is true. thank you for your input, I didn't know that if you haven't mention it. It's so out of the ordinary, I can't even believe they did that in white house!

    the video link is here:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/CX44y9CRBmc/
    the professor A's blog is here:http://www.sinovision.net/blog/syscx/details/56771.html
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    Cayman - thank you so much for what you bring to the table here. I find China fascinating. I recently completed grad school in the form of Chinese Medicine, and had the opportunity to meet many wonderful and amazing people from your country. I very much hope to travel there one day, to learn more about my field, and to explore the culture.

    You are a brave and brilliant soul. Your contribution is deeply appreciated!

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    I have to say: everything it said is true. thank you for your inpurt, I didn't know t that if you haven't mention it. It's so out of the ordinary, I can't even believe they did that in white house!

    the video link is here:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/CX44y9CRBmc/
    the professor A's blog is here:http://www.sinovision.net/blog/syscx/details/56771.html

    Yikes. Did we just get tea-bagged?

    If this were a prison, do we now have a 'boyfriend'?

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    Hi Cayman, what do know about the pyramids in China. Apparently the Chinese government denied they were there, but you can see them in Google Earth....

    http://www.philipcoppens.com/china_pyr.html
    I'm pretty sure there are pyramids in China, especially around XiAn. Because my major in college is History, and I spent almost a year around that area after my graduation. I did find some unusual places around XiAn---the most historical place in China long history.
    but the pictures in the link you gave me is not pyramid, I have to say, they are Mausoleums of Emperors. Especially the Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor, the First Emperor of China is still a great myth today in China, even though we have so many materials about him
    link is here: http://www.google.com.hk/images?hl=z...w=1575&bih=912

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    ....Icecold the Chinese government deny anthing you ask them, is the sky blue you ask? no they reply, look at the Sichuan Earthquake and amount of people killed in comparison to the "Official" amount. And remember the children, after looking at that.
    There is a Chinese idiom for that:call white black—指鹿为马, the "truth" is what TPTB say it is,

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    Hello Cayman !

    I have been in China , Hong kong and Macau. I have many chinese friends.

    My first acunpunture regression was in China.

    From my experience chinese people are very much awake, only they are very quiet, reserved, about what they really think !

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    Quote Posted by cayman (here)
    I'm pretty sure there are pyramids in China, especially around XiAn. Because my major in college is History, and I spent almost a year around that area after my graduation. I did find some unusual places around XiAn---the most historical place in China long history.
    but the pictures in the link you gave me is not pyramid, I have to say, they are Mausoleums of Emperors. Especially the Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor, the First Emperor of China is still a great myth today in China, even though we have so many materials about him
    link is here: http://www.google.com.hk/images?hl=z...w=1575&bih=912
    Nassim Haramien in several of his videos speaks about Pyramids in China and being kept secret as it would never be admitted that a outside influence couldhave built these or contributed to their building also they would not want outsiders coming into the country to investigate.

    Its in this video near the end if I remember correctly.
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    Hi Cayman, Several years ago I wrote a novel (loosely autobiographical) which connects The Grail to the Pleiades to the potential destiny of U.S.A.

    About six months ago I noticed that a small number of Chinese had been on my website. At first I thought it was an accident, however, I've been intrigued that the number of people in China who access my website regularly keeps growing. I found that fascinating. Of course I have no way of knowing if they're purchasing or reading my book, but I am curious about it. I can't imagine how they found me, as I'm quite an unknown.

    Just curious: are the Chinese interested in either the Pleiades or the Holy Grail? Or perhaps it was just the potential destiny of US that brought them to my site.

    By the way, Thanks so much for participating on this forum. I can't imagine that anyone in the world isn't interested in what's happening in China. If they're not, they should be and I do appreciate your insights.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    I think Nassim should have said that the Piramid shape is the easiest constrution to make, in engineering terms. He makes it sound like they are more difficult to construct then the gothic cathedrals.

    http://piramidalcwb.wordpress.com/faca-voce-mesmo/


    A SITE THAT EXPLAINS IS THEORY.

    http://azureworld.blogspot.com/2010/...ld-proton.html
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    Hi cayman, much respect to you for what you are posting here. I hope you don't mind but i'd like your help if possible. I'm a bit lost finding my way round the 'web' to look for information. i'm looking into Chinese history and have gone back as far as 'Three sovereigns and Five emperors'; its all very interesting especially about the god kings or demigods. I've read about the Huaxia race as much as is on there. I wondered if you could point me in the right direction where to look on the web for more information as i am intrigued and excited at the same time, i have no idea why i am looking into this it just feels right at this time to do so. If you're to busy to help i understand. Best wishes and be safe

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    Quote Posted by cayman (here)
    Thank you for your reminder. the original source is in David Wilcock's website
    http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...risequarantine
    For those of you interested in what is happening in China I highly recommend you look at David's blog and go though parts 1, 2, 3, and 4 (part 2 is the one where the link takes you to, if you go to the main page of his blog you can find the other parts, listed chronologically)
    In particular I would like to point out the information discussed in Part three: The one with the secret (as in the Government has not reported this at all) packages which contained a great deal of information on a working free energy device and several other gifts that would push humanity forward towards independent sovereignty.
    My questions that I have about the article are thus:
    1. Who is the group who sent this? What is known about them?
    2. Has there been any updates about this aside from the reports of relatively peaceful disarming (though unknown means) of the war machines of North America, UK and Australia?
    3. Have any whistle blowers come forward yet about this?

    The more questions, the more answers, the more the doors open.
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    Hey Cayman,

    Some more information you may not have come across yet...

    Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 20110124: Benjamin Fulford

    Hu Jintao’s US visit exposes compromised Chinese government officials.

    "There was something very fishy about Chinese President Hu Jintao’s visit to the US last week. First of all, mass-murderer and war criminal Henry (Heinz) Kissinger was praised in the official government Xinhua news site. Second, this Nazi Kissinger, who was part of the plot to kill off a large percentage of the Chinese population with the tailor made SARS bio-weapon, was the man who introduced Hu to an audience of US corporate chieftains."

    http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

    If you have not heard of Ben Fulford before he is Canadian Blue Blood who previously worked for 10 years as a Financial Journalist for Forbes Magazine.

    He now lives and works in Japan and is a member of the "Black Dragon Secret Society", he was one of the very few journalists to ever have a one-on-one interview with David Rockefella.

    Note: His information is not always accurate, but always worth looking at his site on a monthly basis for he has many contacts in Asia and has generally a good understanding of the NWO & PTB.

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    Hi Icecold, the pyramids in China what your mention is a grave which belong to the first Emperor who unite the China.

    There is details:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang

    Until now, we do not open it, no one know what kind things in there.

    But, you can pay attention in Sanxingdui, it has a lot of commons with Egypt pyramids.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanxingdui

    First, they are all locate in northern 31°

    Second, they all fit the three Kings star of Orion, and the river(the Nile and Yazi river) fit the Milky Way

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