Aging, the great equalizer

[thepainterdoug]

Friends/ Im 62 years old now, still playing ice hockey 4 days week and preserving my eyes wide open outlook about life as best I can.
But the reality of aging is ever real and consuming me more each day. I lost my Mom this February and witness to her last 9 years since loosing my Dad was profoundly heartbreaking, in and out of nursing homes , needing 24 hour nursing, in a wheelchair and so on. This is something I do not want !

Aging is the great equalizer, the rich and the beautiful the gifted the average all have to pass thru this stage.

I used to think these thoughts were just an aspect of my age but even my son at 31 years old feels it too. Are things accelerating ??


anyone have thoughts on this.

[regnak]

well scientist have discovered bones from around the world people used to and still can live a lot longer technology exists today that can make a person live a lot longer

The Immortal: True Accounts of the 250-Year-Old Man, Li Qingyun

In 1927, General Yang Sen invited Li Qingyun to Wanxian, China, to teach about health and longevity. Li Qingyun was reported to be 250 years old at the time, and his visit to Wanxian was big news. In 1970, Yang Sen compiled a book of his and others’ accounts of Li Qingyun, titled An Authentic and True Record of a 250-Year-Old Man, which Stuart Alve Olson started translating into English in 1982.

Besides the notion of someone living to 250 years of age, this book goes well beyond the biography of Li Qingyun’s life. It has great historical value, especially for Westerners who are unfamiliar with much of Chinese history towards the end of the Qing dynasty. It also explains incredible health therapies and provides information on what is now called Medical Qigong. Much is explained about Daoism on meditation, breathing, qigong exercise, food, sex, and philosophy for Daoist living. Another true gem of this book is the philosophical teachings, as much of this material has never been presented in English. The depth of information provided in this book surpasses any previously published work on Daoist health practices and philosophy. It is rare to come across a text with such abundance of insights and written with such clarity as this material provides

[tessfreq]

Hi Doug,
I’m 54 and wish I was still playing hockey. ☺
I’ve had the same feeling where I try and determine what is age related and what is universally happening. Heck, my 80 yo mom had to remind me about menopause when I was telling her about how weirdly angry I got about something. It was like, oh, yeah, dang.

There are two ways I’ve contemplated this time element. One is the acceleration perspective and the second way is like a stalled in time view.

With the acceleration view, I feel it and have felt it, but now as I try and find examples I can’t nail it. The easiest one is with technology, because everyone is in a constant paddle upstream trying to keep up with that. So much to learn and so little time. But that doesn’t speak of our collective experiences as much as our ability to make more cool stuff. What are your experiences that give you this accelerated view?

The stalled in time view is a little different but it kind of dovetails with the other. With this one, it’s like, when I look back and think geez, we were creating and debating about that in the 70’s, over 40 years ago and we are just now moving forward on it. Like with solar power, we were going strong with alternative energy in the 70’s, then it got squelched, and now it’s finally being broken out in big ways. This view makes me think that the acceleration view comes from time moving after being stalled. Which would make it more universal, where our kids would be resonanting with this also.

[RunningDeer]

Sorry for the loss of your Mom, Doug.

I'll be 66 in a couple of months. I'm confronted with aging more than I’d like to admit. Last summer, was the first time I didn’t use an air conditioner. I have the arm strength to lift the old monster, but I hurt my back one to many times when I installed and removed it the seasons before.

Every snow storm, I’m reminded of getting older. Every year that passes, I shovel more often to stay ahead of it. With those Nor’easters, I shovel every few hours through the night.

I stay active with light yoga stretches, walks, Tai Chi, Chi Kung and such. What I notice is if I miss a couple of days, I feel it. Recently, I’ll get a muscle pull that I can’t account for that’ll take days to recover. Which is another not so subtle reminder.

Some days, it’s one step forward, two steps backward. Detox, exercise, state of mind, rest, nature walks…all to counter the effects of aging and the assaults from chemtrails, scalar tech and all THAT rot.

RunningDeer ♡

[East Sun]

i really believe that we err in thinking that living longer is better. I'm 74 and am happy to be here and in 'good' health. If I was not in good health I'd be happy to go on to what ever? I said good bye to religion in the past but believe that out 'spirit'? continues for all eternity--always was and always will be---but if not that's ok.
I believe that there is an unlimited amount of information that is beyond our comprehension.

Edger Cayce, David Icke and others have pointed us in the right direction and I feel privileged to have had their direction.


I am exceedingly grateful to them.

[thepainterdoug]

thanks everyone, to those not concerned yet, you will be. its quite a trip but i can surely say, i would never go back don't want to be younger, just want to be the best soul i can be in my true reality.

[Daozen]

Jack Lalanne has always been a hero of mine. I was watching Game of Thrones with my gf last night, and noted how well Charles Dance moved at age 68ish, when he shot the scene. I would love to be that healthy and powerful when I'm his age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfmmUa_r-oo

Aging is a conquerable physical disease, related to inflammation, rotting and rusting. We may beat it in our lifetimes, but wouldn't expect any announcement from the MSM. There are some who may well have beaten aging already: Look at Pharell Williams. And check what his Father's name is...

Cold showers are a poor man's cryo. I take one most days. Hot springs take away alot of aches and pains.

Even in my late thirties, I am devoting my spare time to researching longevity herbs and substances as much as I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2g9waTmzI

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Daozen (here)
Jack Lalanne has always been a hero of mine. I was watching Game of Thrones with my gf last night, and noted how well Charles Dance moved at age 68ish, when he shot the scene. I would love to be that healthy and powerful when I'm his age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfmmUa_r-oo

Aging is a conquerable physical disease, related to inflammation, rotting and rusting. We may beat it in our lifetimes, but wouldn't expect any announcement from the MSM. There are some who may well have beaten aging already:

There are some who may well have beaten aging already

I agree exercise is important. I’ve been active my whole life. Like you, I also live the lifestyle and belief in reverse aging. At the very least I’ve slowed it down. One of my barometers is my 7 siblings. All but one are younger than I. In 2008, Sister #8 passed due to poor lifestyle choices.

Last fall, Sister #4 was angry because a guy in a bar said to me, "If your mom doesn’t mind I like to invite you…" He never got to finished the sentence because my sister railed back that she was my sister not her mom. Our brother stepped in to smooth things over. Sister #4 is four years younger than I.

None of my siblings exercise, nor eat ‘sticks and twigs’ (family joke about me), and water is not their first choice of liquid refreshment.

I plan to be here for awhile and live a quality lifestyle.

RunningDeer ♡

[Justplain]

Aging is such a profoundly mortal condition of our existence. It makes one appreciate the good times in the past, for instance. I believe that a part of us lives on after this life, and that part of us will keep a memory of this life's individual. However, that immortal part of us doesnt really identify with the mortal part of us, which may be a bit hard to comprehend. If we try to identify with our immortal selves we will probably see things about this life in a different perspective.

I personally wish it was easier for us to mentally recall our past lives and our existence between lives. It would allow us to better understand ourselves and our purpose here. If it were easier to remember there wouldnt be many atheists left around. We'd also probably appreciate our lives a lot more and have fewer conflicts, because time is on our side. :-)

[Alpha141]

Thanks for the info offered Jonsnow. Fascinating.

[shaberon]

I'm not quite that far along yet, but from the age I have reached, I feel that a very vicious part of it is:

You lose people. Whether it's to death, or you simply grow apart. But since you're not young and trendy any more, no one really comes along to replace them. As one of the comedians said, you reach a certain point and about all the general public thinks of you is: Shut up and do your job. This is the only thing that really makes me feel age right now.

I'm sure it doesn't happen to everyone, but it's fairly standard. My co-workers usually wondered why I was so patient with folks who were obviously quite elderly and weren't getting along too well, and may have been fussy (which turns off a lot of younger people). I told them more than once that: this might be the only time today, or this week, that anybody even talks to them. I can't fix their aching bones, but I can take a few minutes to make them a little happier.

It's a shame to get equalized not just by a feeling of loneliness; but when prolonged, it simply drains your mind. I was actually horrified by my own mother refusing anything to do with a certain relative, who outlived everyone she knew, and made this last outreach. But mom wanted to carry a grudge from relatively trivial stuff that happened fifty years ago. Not much further down the road, she was getting the floor replaced where the lady had melted into it, since there was no one left to notice she had died.

Aside from whatever may befall you physically, abandonment is pure tragedy.

[thepainterdoug]

shaberon/
Aside from whatever may befall you physically, abandonment is pure tragedy.

totally agree. ty

[Richard S.]

Would anyone have a link to this book, I can`t seem to find it.

The subject at hand is of great interest to me. I feel that we are not taking the proper things into account, if it was just a question of age, wouldn't we expire all at the same time?

Daozen hits it on the nose, we are not ageing, methinks more so we are decaying more or less rapidly. I have spoken with many health professionals to understand it. The mutual agreement of all these conversations is that when we are reaching this final phase of our existence is that we arrive completely dried up, dehydrated and decaying from the lack of hydration in our bodies.

Our way of life is what makes us expire faster than we should. Some of us arrive at the end in an abrupt manner, whilst most are going downhill for years because of what they have done to the meat suit. The culmination of what we do to our bodies over our lifetime is what draws up the end, obviously. There are so many factors to take into play on this, otherwise, like I stated before, we would all die at the same time, or close to it.

So yeah, I would really love to read the book...

Posted by jonsnow (here)
well scientist have discovered bones from around the world people used to and still can live a lot longer technology exists today that can make a person live a lot longer

The Immortal: True Accounts of the 250-Year-Old Man, Li Qingyun

In 1927, General Yang Sen invited Li Qingyun to Wanxian, China, to teach about health and longevity. Li Qingyun was reported to be 250 years old at the time, and his visit to Wanxian was big news. In 1970, Yang Sen compiled a book of his and others’ accounts of Li Qingyun, titled An Authentic and True Record of a 250-Year-Old Man, which Stuart Alve Olson started translating into English in 1982.

Besides the notion of someone living to 250 years of age, this book goes well beyond the biography of Li Qingyun’s life. It has great historical value, especially for Westerners who are unfamiliar with much of Chinese history towards the end of the Qing dynasty. It also explains incredible health therapies and provides information on what is now called Medical Qigong. Much is explained about Daoism on meditation, breathing, qigong exercise, food, sex, and philosophy for Daoist living. Another true gem of this book is the philosophical teachings, as much of this material has never been presented in English. The depth of information provided in this book surpasses any previously published work on Daoist health practices and philosophy. It is rare to come across a text with such abundance of insights and written with such clarity as this material provides

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Lovespot (here)
Would anyone have a link to this book, I can`t seem to find it.

"...Li was asked what his secret was to longevity. This was his reply: “Keep a quiet heart, sit like a tortoise, walk sprightly like a pigeon and sleep like a dog.” These were the words of advice Li gave to Wu Pei-fu, the warlord, who took Li into his house to learn the secret of extremely long life.

Li maintained that inward calm and peace of mind combined with breathing techniques were the secrets to incredible longevity. Obviously, his diet would have played a large role. But its fascinating that the old living person in recorded history attributes his long life to his state of mind."

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• Amazon.com - The Immortal: True Accounts of the 250-Year-Old Man, Li Qingyun
  
• pdf - Daoist Immortality: Death and Immortality in Daoism - Li Qingyun is on page 6.
  
• Also this site you may be interested in: Li Ching Yuen Diet and Herbs

[Stardad]

A great subject for many to contribute; Thanks you Thepainterdoug!

My recipe to extend physical body life touches upon physical exercise, breathing exercises, nutrition and also finding ones creative passion. Visualisation and meditation are also tools to identify and neutralise body ailments that prop up sometimes.

Physical exercise: I find that the 5 tibetan rites are a good basis to activate the energy centers and the large muscle groups. I also add to this other exercises related to yoga and martial arts that maintain muscle tone. Time used for this: 20 to 30 minutes every day! Walking, light jogging and biking or snowshoing in nature (depending on the season) are also good! The objective is bettering and then maintaining body flexibility, stamina and power on a everyday basis.

Breathing exercises: We neglect using our full breathing potential. This eventualy leads to degeneration of our aerobic capacity. I use a rather simple breathing exercise that the Wingmaker site proposes which is as an example: breathing in 6 seconds, holding 6 seconds, exhaling 6 seconds and retaining 6 seconds in sets of 3 or 6. 2 sets of 6 in the morning and a set of 6 in the evening does the trick for me!

Finding your creative passion is also very important. After all, you need to contribute to feel useful in life. Many leave this Earth prematurely because they are bored and realise that they can no longer contribute. Find your creative passion and extend your life!!! Mine are music through crystal bowl playing and doing community work.

Nutrition: A lot has been written about nutrition and I will limit my comments to this: stay away from manufactured food as much as possible; learn to cook the basic foods yourself and using Bio fruits and veggies as much as possible. Before eating, bless your food! Using certain supplements that your body needs is ok.

Many of my friends that have left the body have neglected or put aside one of these aspects.

At 66 years young, I can still play good volleyball and walking 7-8 miles at a good pace is not a problem.

I hope this helps!

[regnak]

RunningDeer great post 10/10

[Agape]

More I've seen in this world and of human life the more I realise how many options are there , in growing up , living , aging and dying .
Of course looking around your own circles and environment there don't seem to be that many options at all but once you have to think of human life in its entirety on earth , ways to go are almost endless .
Society creates stereotypes , wisdom beings follow their truth nevertheless .

Dignity in life is important in any age and yet , and yet .. the answer to 'dignity' of life seldom comes from outside . It more likely has to be ascertained from within .

There are elders for whom their great kids in posh cars take care about to detail and yet , those people suffer from within for missing something .. they only miss because they never went for it ..
and they become jealous of their children . I'd tell them , no, your children really can not repay your debts to joy .
And there are people for whom no one cares a lot and so they walk light and evade stationary hells and prisons of this world and never age and die blessed .

For those who had to be 'old and responsible' in young age , ageing is often , a blessing in disguise . People who live from their youthful beauty and vigour taking it for granted , being used to being admired , they seem to say uniformly how 'old age' hit them with an axe.

They say in times of old Egypt the average life span was something around 45-46. It still makes sense . Personally , I found myself surprised by every decade and cipher I passed through successfully as if it all was long arduous exam to complete.
The most I could have done for others was sometime between 20 and 30 years of human age .
The moment weakness starts affecting life it's all about calculating strength vs options.

I can't recall who once jokingly ran the comparison between peoples lives and that of dogs. Big dogs grow slower . As 2 or even 4 year olds they're still puppies, then reach their best age and can be here till 20 .
For many small breed of dogs the process is different and life span tends to be much shorter .

It's a way similar for many humans . It's really difficult to equalise because the huge genomic diversity among one 'human species' .
So in fact , the process has to be personalised .

Paradoxically but what I wanted to stress here at the first place .. ways we despise the most are usually the best for your 'organic life' . Such as ... sleeping . Not pushing and pulling self around .
Fasting is said to prolong life in mice and humans . Doing nothing is generally much safer than doing whatever we do, including spending money on getting much better.

But somehow , we all like the illusion that 'doing something' about it helps .

[Basho]

Great posts Running Dear & stardad!

I look really young but I feel super old lol. But I'm taking care of my foundation through meditation, pranayama(breathing excercises), yoga, nutrition & healing herbs. Unfortunately, I'm in the worse before it gets better stage of healing. Which is quite frustrating but I'm in a good spiritual space & that's what is most important, to me.

I've started Wim Hof's breathing excercises a couple of weeks ago & I'm definitely feeling the subtle differences in my body already. I'm not quite ready to do the cold stuff though. I'm a warm weather person & i hate the cold, so I haven't even attempted to take a cold shower yet. But I will try soon enough lol

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Agape (here)
I can't recall who once jokingly ran the comparison between peoples lives and that of dogs. Big dogs grow slower . As 2 or even 4 year olds they're still puppies, then reach their best age and can be here till 20 .
For many small breed of dogs the process is different and life span tends to be much shorter .

Hi Agape,

One clarification about the size of dogs. My Wolfe, a Yorkie, lived 16+ years.

Why Don’t Big Dogs Live as Long as Small Dogs?

"The phenomenon is well known to dog lovers: Dogs from bigger breeds don’t live as long as smaller ones. The small breeds have an average life expectancy of 12 to 14 years; for larger breeds, it's 8 to 10; and for the so-called “giant breeds,” lifespan is 5 to 8 years. "

"This strange flip in the relationship between size and lifespan isn’t completely understood, and many, if not all, of the factors at play are probably species-specific. This is certainly the case for dogs, and scientists think that the reasons big breeds die young have to do with the way humans have bred them and the way they grow. "

"A new study published last month focused only on dogs and likewise concludes that big dogs die young because they age quickly. The European researchers looked at veterinary data for 74 breeds and more than 50,000 individual dogs, including when and how they died, and found that “large dogs age at an accelerated pace, suggesting that their adult life unwinds in fast motion.”"

RunningDeer

[bettye198]

Thank you for your honest commentary Running Deer. At almost age 69 I relate. Back 15 yrs I could do the Tony Little exercises on the floor and get up without holding on, jump on a trampoline and walk on a treadmill at a clip. It is amazing what the body does 15 yrs later with menopause and joint inflammation. You eat right, supplement, do the good walk, stretch, meditate, get happy into a hobby but yet, aging is upon us like a brick. I read countless times that death is not natural nor is aging. It is a "curse" handed down, not a God thing.
I think of beings on other planets who live hundreds of years and when they exit, it is a choice. Beings who have children nurtured and cared for by elders. Beings who do not have marriage contracts but live that fantasy life of freedom with whomever because love rules not the negative emotions.
Some people have really good genetics like my husband. Works out three times a week for an hour and half each time, high intensity. Works like a champ, has no feelings of aging. 70 yrs old in 2 mos.
I have learned one thing, and that is no comparison because of our different constitutions. If we do, instantly we are brought down to a level of not worthy. I give thanks for another day. That is my peace.