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    Very intriguing thread. I have read spiritual masters telling souls can be trapped or destroyed. It requires a subtle energy similar to soul to do so.If a soul can be embodied in a body, why can't a similar method be used for the soul too?

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    Hi Herve this is a really awesome post.


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    I am fairly convinced that a soul can be "zombified" if not "captured" if only from that Ingo Swann adventure on the other side of the moon: an out of body Ingo got spotted and chased around... Gurdjieff also warned about that moon.

    I've read and I often source Ingo Swann's (penetration). Ingo went to the moon via remote viewing at the beheads of one Axle Rod, a government agent who would not divulge who exactly he represented this being back in the early 70's if memory servers me correct.
    The part you mention is when Ingo went to the moon via remote viewing and he was recognized by human beings working/mining in one of the domed craters.
    These human beings appeared human, except they seemed to have had extra sensory abilities to the point of recognizing one without a body consciousness belonging to the remote viewing Ingo Swann. Upon seeing he was recognized, Ingo voiced what was happening to Axel Rod who was sitting next to his body.
    Axel Rod then ordered Ingo to return to earth and his body immediately.
    The beings on the moon hadn't done anything to Ingo except point to Ingo's consciousness and indicate they saw him.
    So I'm not quite sure what you mean by your statement being as these folks hadn't done anything to Ingo.


    Also, I'm curious as to what Gurdjieff stated about the moon.

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    A key ingredient to fully comprehend and understand how such thing can happen is hypnosis and its use with which a human being - in or out of body - can be made to believe ANYTHING! ... even that the moon is made of green cheese or that the earth is flat.

    Hypnosis for what happens in the body can be studied and subjectified, but I don't know if we can make that jump to not being in the body. I don't know if we can make that jump and say that a soul can be hypnotized as easily as consciousness that is still within the body.

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    I often refer to the "Third Man In The Room" experiment to demonstrate how anyone can be hypnotized and made to see or not see/perceive actual 3D physicality.

    I also refer to the "Toilet Flushers" who - on cue - automatically behave a certain way and always that same way without fail! Imagine what a post-hypnotic command of "No-no-no: chemtrails don't exist!"... or "Souls cannot be captured! We re all free-will sovereign beings!" or "We lost the war and we are all captured and slaves forever and ever!" for that matter...

    I watched the third man in the room video you linked. And it is very entertaining, but it is a little on the sensational side and feels kind of tabloidy. I'm not saying the piece has no merit, but I will state that this piece is not exactly something I would take to the bank and deposit in the safety deposit box of holy truth. The show has a distinct feel that ratings are needed for it's survival, as such I consider it absolutely possible that the subject who was hypnotized may in fact be "acting" as part of the show.


    Also, I read the "toilet flusher" part you had written on another thread. This basically was an example of someone being hypnotized to flush a toilet everytime the hypnotist tugged on his collar. To this I state this may not be real either. People act out all the freaking time for attention. People will do the stupidest things you can imagine for attention. I'm not saying that is the case because the real case is do I believe in hypnotism in this manner having this kind of power over people and to this I say no.


    I just do not.
    If hypnotism was this universally powerful then I'm of the opinion it would be used far more than it is.


    All of the most brilliant criminals would be hypnotists, and instead of committing crimes they would have someone else do them.


    Even in the case of MKULTRA, the conditions and the applications are so much more advanced than this parlor trick wave a pocket watch in someone's face crap.


    MKULTRA vicitims are brain washed and hypnotized from a child. They are repeatedly traumatized so visciously as to cause folks to sometimes die of mental breakdowns.
    The Mauntak Project as reported by Bielek, Swerdlow and Nichols had a very low survival rate for the Mountak boys. This was because of how devastating and Machiavellian the procedure was to imprint and psychologically coax these kids into what was wanted from them.


    If hypnosis was as easy as waving a pocket watch why would TPTB go through all of t his? They wouldn't because hypnosis as you are describing does not work like this at all. This is all play acting, kind of like how faith healing works.

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    Before my days at the monastery, I was attending a university (To make a long story short, I flunked high school, was expelled, supposedly had a genius I.Q., and ended up in college instead). In one of my classes, the professor gave a hypnosis demonstration. I witnessed people who were so well “hypnotized”, that when they were told that a burning cigar was being touched to the palm of their hand, blisters instantly appeared (even though only an unlit cigar was touched to their hand).
    But as the years have gone by in my life, I have witnessed far more amazing and strange things. Believe it or not - it really doesn’t matter to me.

    I have seen objects moved with thought. I’ve seen hand-to-hand combat, where no flesh ever made contact. I’ve seen bodies tossed about like rag dolls by energies invisible to the “normal” human eye. I’ve seen people with bad cuts stop bleeding by “thinking it so”. I’ve seen people stop their heart, and stop breathing, without dying. I’ve seen monks in the Himalayas, sit in the snow, in conditions that were so cold that as they were wrapped in wet blankets, the blankets froze around them.

    After many layers of blankets were applied, the monks would visualize heat within themselves, radiating out. The blankets would defrost, and a circle of melted snow would appear around them. Their degree of mental accomplishment was measured by the size of the circle around them. And I’ve seen far more.

    The “hypnosis demonstrations” in college, were mysterious and remarkable enough, but after witnessing the monks melting the ice, I asked Zain how such things were done. After having me read what was called “The Tibetan Treatise of Psychic Heat”, he began teaching me all the details of the power of the mind. It began with this discussion:

    Again, I'm not a member of the convinced in terms of simple hypnosis. But in terms of what a full blown mystic monk can do, now that is a different story. I have no problem believing what you are talking about in terms of monks exhibiting these types of powers. And I absolutely think there is a projected mode of interpreting reality we all partake of regardless of the fact we have never chosen to do so. But I do not think it is a hypnotic suggestion.


    That would be far far far to easy.
    No, I absolutely think this exists, but not as any type of simple command.


    We see a false and limited society, because there is a living entity inside of all of us, and it is alive because it feeds on our energy system.


    Folks imagine archons flying around and in charge of the world via spaceship.
    I say no to this.
    Archons exist inside of our being, like a conscious tentacle that is connected to the demiurge. We only become conscious of the archon when we have begun to liberate our consciousness to the point where the archon feels it needs to manifest in a somewhat human form to perform maneuvers to put us back in place.


    I laugh my ass off when folks make statements about being enlightened.
    Because in my view no one is enlightened unless they have managed to untangle themselves from the demiurge. And the folks who do this you can probably count with one hand.

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    “Your beliefs control and affect the incredible powers of the mind, which dictate,
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    or influence, many things in your life...
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    ... so may be there is something to this “Everyday in every way, I am getting better and better”

    Anyway, many a researcher have warned about "screen/false/overlaid memories" (Turner, Bartholic, Lorgen, Bartley, Truman Cash, etc...)

    Turner, Bartholic, Lorgen and Bartley are talking about something else.


    And this actually dove tails well with Ingo Swann as well.


    And this all dovetails well with David Jacobs as well.


    All of these folks are talking about the "alien" ability to hypnotize us and place false memories into our being.


    Not through any simple means, but because aliens have telepathy+.


    Telepathy alone being the ability to read someone's mind. Telepathy+ being the ability to not only read someone's mind, but to insert things into those minds as well.


    You see, these aliens who abduct us and create these fanciful screen memories are able to do so according to David Jacobs because atleast one member of the abduction team stands right next to the abductee to the point his forehead is almost touching the forehead of the abductee. And it is this individual who is broadcasting a "false" virtual reality that the abductee remembers instead of the actual medical exam cold steel table experience.
    Also I might add, that Karla Turner recalled an incident where a very large Mantis type alien was attempting to emotionally bond with her as a child by telling Karla that the Mantis alien was her mother. Karla with the help of Barbara Bartholic rejected this memory as a screen memory. A false memory. A misleading memory. A manipulative memory.


    I find it ironic that this EXACT same scenario is described by Simon Parks. And Simon seems to fall right into the mindset in which the false screen memory had intended. I say this not to discredit Simon as a contactee, but to point out how in my opinion he is an abductee who is being manipulated and his message is one in which the enemy wants spread.







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    currently i'm reading philip imbrogno's 'ultraterrestrial contact'. its quite good. and coincidentally the topic of soul capture came up in a passage i was reading yesterday. even more coincidentally it also has to do with a shamanic technique known as 'soul retrieval', something i wrote about in an earlier post here.

    the passage involves a woman named Laura, who had abduction experiences dating back to her childhood. it picks up here...



    "the paranormal activity (in particular, the abductions) tormented her so much that she desperately searched for help. She was told of a native american shaman in arizona who understood her situation and how to deal with it. So, in the late eighties, laura traveled to meet with him. what took place is one of the most unusual stories i have ever heard in all my years of paranormal investigation.

    the shaman, who was referred to as Jade, told her she would have to go through a special ritual called "soul retrieval". jade felt the alien beings had stolen a part of laura's life force. he told her they must both leave their bodies and confront these entities to bargain for the return of her soul.

    as the ritual began, jade tied a rope around laura's waist and took her hand, warning her not to let go - he felt the beings were very powerful and that confronting them would not be an easy task. in a guided trance, they left their bodies, and laura tells me she remembers flying through the sky, holding on to jade. they traveled and passed through a door that led them to a ship. there, they found 3 beings standing in a room. the beings were hairless, quite tall, and had long arms, round heads and pointy chins. laura said they seemed to be covered in a silvery glow that gave them a very nonhuman appearance. she said the shape of their heads reminded her of the "witches" who came into her room at night when she was a child. as she stood there in awe, jade seemed to be in an argument with the beings to return a part of laura, a part they'd had in possession since she was a child. the beings said they were from the pleiades and have been with laura's family for generations. they explained that they needed her life force because it gave them the energy they needed to live....."

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    i do wonder about the interchangeable use of the words "life force" and "soul". same thing? not sure...

    i still maintain that our ultimate essence cannot be captured, but perhaps other subtle parts of us can be...at least temporarily. the names we give those subtle parts tends to confuse things.
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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    [...]
    I watched the third man in the room video you linked. And it is very entertaining, but it is a little on the sensational side and feels kind of tabloidy....
    [...]
    I'll just answer this:

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    [...]

    I watched a part of the Derren Brown youtube in your post and I have to say that I have serious reservations as to his credibility.

    [...]
    Hello Eram,

    The Derren Brown videos are there to underline that, that "Third Man In The Room" experiment has been duplicated numerous time with similar results.

    I don't doubt that Derren Brown uses artifices and tricks of the trade to be able to turn his skills into live shows
    I use hypnosis as a proof of concept that what runs this world is its unconscious content more than anything else, whether one calls it culture, upbringing, brainwashing, programming, implants, post hypnotic commands, telepathic influencing, etc... and the reaction of individuals when pointed out their behaviour is not quite rational

    I think Chris calls "ego" what I call "unconscious content."

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    I don't buy the soul capture scenario(the white light). Nor do I buy we are being eaten energetically by an army of 2d demons. It is all psy op nonsense IMO. Alt media is plagued by electromagnetic mind control IMO. That is a source of these ideas IMO.

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    A recent interview with David Jacobs:
    The Truth Perspective: Interview with David M. Jacobs: "Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity"


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    UFO sightings. Alien abduction accounts. These topics have been so fraught with misinformation, sensationalism and pure speculation over the years that to learn what is actually occurring can be a very difficult undertaking even under the best of circumstances. There are a few out there who succeed in doing so.

    Joining us for this episode of The Truth Perspective is retired Professor of History David M. Jacobs, author of such well-known titles as The UFO Controversy in America, Secret Life and The Threat. In his most recent book, Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity, Dr. Jacobs takes his research another step further and presents his latest findings and conclusions about the alien presence here on Earth.

    In his well-grounded and concrete style, Dr. Jacobs goes into detail to explain the rigors of his study, as well as how he has come to understand this topic of topics. If you have ever wondered what the truth about aliens was, you'll want to listen in!
    [...]
    Running Time: 02:08:50

    Download: OGG, MP3


    So, I don't know, but it seems to me that there isn't much difference in installing false memories of "Nothing happened!" in people's mind while being abducted day/night after day/night for millions of individuals and a "Grande Finale" of Pearly Gates when the biological vehicle is scheduled for the scrap yard...

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    I believe that a lot of confusion arises from how we see our singular identities as a fact, when in truth every sentient being is a composite, as a lifetime progresses parts are added and removed to and from the local psychic environment into our "selves". Like a dog has fleas, we have a mash up of fragmented thought forms we like to ascribe qualities to, like mind, self, soul, etc, etc. When in reality the true basis for our experience is more like an empty container containing a recipe of ingredients that we identify with to greater and lesser extents, a recipe that is changed to suit us (consciously) or not (unconsciously).

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    Slightly off topic.
    Invictus poem and the name chosen for this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-36244069

    Black as the pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the Horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate:
    I am the captain of my soul.[1]

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    The soul is a programmed and programming machine. It is constantly acquiring code, breaking it down and reassembling into a different configuration. Change anyone?
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    [...]
    ... --not separate, but within me.

    I and everyone else is pure awareness.
    It is permanent--you can not turn it of--it is always there.
    You are aware of what you do--aware of what is going on--
    [...]
    Chris
    ^^^ >>>

    Quote ... aware the moment you wake--and awareness carries on
    when you are asleep
    --it will alert, you, wake you, up if that is required.

    A "pure" something is something whole, unmixed with something else, unalloyed, unaltered... right?

    ... then, how come IT wakes YOU up? and, in the first place, how come YOU - "pure awareness" - can fall asleep?

    Good stuff Hervé

    The soul can configure itself to have an internal alarm clock and set it for certain parameters. The question remains, what did it set itself to awake to? To recognize a refined code?

    Eventually I think the soul arrives at a point where it recognizes in a glimpse that there is something beyond code (regardless of how refined it is) without 'knowing' what that is. The code/ equation then falls apart in quick succession though it is programmed to reassemble. Who knows how long this has been going on? Time, too, is an code/ equation.

    It this context, Awake is absence of all code as an identifying feature.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    So, I don't know, but it seems to me that there isn't much difference in installing false memories of "Nothing happened!" in people's mind while being abducted day/night after day/night for millions of individuals and a "Grande Finale" of Pearly Gates when the biological vehicle is scheduled for the scrap yard...
    [

    The aliens in the David Jacobs regressions of folks who have been abducted are not omnipotent. The alien use of telepathy+ (which I covered in my last post) is limited in the sense that the alien performing the false memory insertion must be extremely close to the person receiving the memory implant. It is stated by Jacobs that the alien must be so close to the person receiving the false memory that the giver of the false memory must be touching foreheads with the receiver of the false memories.

    The demand of close proximity is a pertinent limitation worth considering here.
    This would make it difficult to perform the same manuever on a living conscious soul leaving the body.

    Also, you seem to be of the opinion that the soul when free of the body is beset with the same psychological/psychic limitations as when in the body.
    This is a worthy subject to compare and contrast because I do not believe this to be the case.
    While in our bodies we are connected to a living tentacle of the demiurge. I believe this living tentacle to be what the Gnostics referred to as the archons. This living tentacle works tirelessly to bleed us of our ability to manifest inside our multidimensional totality. Upon death, I am thinking this is no longer the case, and we then are capable of seeing things a tad clearer than we do now.

    Also, I'm of the opinion that the Annunaki built into our being certain genetic dificiences, especially in so how our brain and consciousness operate. I'm of the opinion that we have been made easy to control via telepathy. I'm of the opinion that in so far as conscious and aware physical life forms go, we may have the worst telepathy/ESP/Active3rdEye set up around. And I think this has been done by design. I'm of the opinion that our bodies and the resulting physicality of our brain which must process our psychic mind imposes this limitation through our genetics, but upon death this control can no longer be exercised.

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    [...] The alien use of telepathy+ (which I covered in my last post) is limited in the sense that the alien performing the false memory insertion must be extremely close to the person receiving the memory implant....
    [...]
    ... unless, that too, is the result of a false memory/implant/psyop/disinfo/etc... because the biological body is no longer part of the equation/process.

    Again, the "Third Man In The Room" experiment yields another interesting result from a thorough analysis: it is not the body or its genetics that affects the visibility/invisibility of that third man... it is the mind/soul having been hacked/virus infected that selectively perceives - or not - that third man... the thing that interfaces with the biological body and which departs at that biological body's death... whether in or out of that body, it's still hacked to perceive - or not - certain element of its environment.

    The body mostly complies to mind/soul's orders/directions... hence my tongue in cheek
    Quote ... so may be there is something to this “Everyday in every way, I am getting better and better”
    as well as the example of spontaneous generation of burn blisters form an unlit cigar... something to chew on real hard . It's also the reason why past life therapies are so therapeutic when relieving individuals from past traumas... or human growing bear fur and claws...

    As ZooLife pointed out, a human's mind/soul is a hacker's wet dream... hacks on top of hacks on top of virus/psyops on top of billion years old hacks... still being used to this day...

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Beings in the grip of someone else's universe can be very convincing:

    Quote Belief and the Powers of the Mind

    Before my days at the monastery, I was attending a university (To make a long story short, I flunked high school, was expelled, supposedly had a genius I.Q., and ended up in college instead). In one of my classes, the professor gave a hypnosis demonstration. I witnessed people who were so well “hypnotized”, that when they were told that a burning cigar was being touched to the palm of their hand, blisters instantly appeared (even though only an unlit cigar was touched to their hand).

    But as the years have gone by in my life, I have witnessed far more amazing and strange things. Believe it or not - it really doesn’t matter to me.

    I have seen objects moved with thought. I’ve seen hand-to-hand combat, where no flesh ever made contact. I’ve seen bodies tossed about like rag dolls by energies invisible to the “normal” human eye. I’ve seen people with bad cuts stop bleeding by “thinking it so”. I’ve seen people stop their heart, and stop breathing, without dying. I’ve seen monks in the Himalayas, sit in the snow, in conditions that were so cold that as they were wrapped in wet blankets, the blankets froze around them.

    After many layers of blankets were applied, the monks would visualize heat within themselves, radiating out. The blankets would defrost, and a circle of melted snow would appear around them. Their degree of mental accomplishment was measured by the size of the circle around them. And I’ve seen far more.

    The “hypnosis demonstrations” in college, were mysterious and remarkable enough, but after witnessing the monks melting the ice, I asked Zain how such things were done. After having me read what was called “The Tibetan Treatise of Psychic Heat”, he began teaching me all the details of the power of the mind. It began with this discussion:

    “Your beliefs control and affect the incredible powers of the mind, which dictate,
    or influence, many things in your life...
    Thanks, Hervé. The above passage is on page 148. (I'll add this pdf to the other thread.)

    The Lost Teachings of Atlantis: & the Children of the Law of One, By Jon Peniel

    A back up link:

    The Lost Teachings of Atlantis: & the Children of the Law of One, By Jon Peniel

    [Thanks Paula
    I got it from here:
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar...s-atlantis.pdf
    ,
    Hervé]
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    RunningDeer, I realized when I posted a few days ago I was outing myself, but it may be time to be more public. So far, so good, knock on wood.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    [...] The alien use of telepathy+ (which I covered in my last post) is limited in the sense that the alien performing the false memory insertion must be extremely close to the person receiving the memory implant....
    [...]
    ... unless, that too, is the result of a false memory/implant/psyop/disinfo/etc... because the biological body is no longer part of the equation/process.

    Let me get this straight, you would like to use the work of David Jacobs to help support your hypothesis, but when I jump on board with you in using David's work and I emphasis one of David Jacobs greatest discoveries which you feel detracts from your pet theory you then wish to dismiss David Jacobs?


    The number one most important discovery by David Jacobs, as he will tell you, is the abducter/visitor standing over the abductee touching foreheads. It's THIS discovery that hinges on David Jacobs being able to differentiate the screen memories from the real memories.


    You seem to have a knee jerk reaction in defense of your pet theory here. I'm simply opening up a dialogue, and trying to enter into a discussion. I could just as easily argue your point for you, and I would not constantly reference tabloid hypnotists who are trying to be the next Chris Angel. Again, I've reviewed your hypnotic examples, and I find them lacking and probably fake.


    My advice to folks upon death would be to trust their instincts and if they feel what is being presented is real, then to trust that.
    All in all, I plan on crossing a tunnel into the higher dimensions upon death.


    Since you feel that is a trap. Maybe you could share what you think the best alternative would be.
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    Quote Fourth Way philosophy aims to strip man of his mechanical behavior and hypnotic programming in order to build within him a core of heightened consciousness. It is an esoteric system assembled from incomplete fragments of inner Christianity and Sufism. It’s founder, Georges Gurdjieff, frequently admonished the thoughtless mechanical behavior of humanity and was fond of saying that we are “food for the moon.”

    What did Gurdjieff mean by this phrase? Many have interpreted “food for the moon” as a figure of speech, that perhaps Gurdjieff meant we are slave to our mechanical conditioning and feed our baser impulses. While it can be additionally interpreted that way, Gurdjieff was likely being literal. Peter Ouspensky, one of Gurdjieff’s most prolific disciples, lectured at length concerning the moon’s role in human affairs and its place in the cosmological scheme of things. It is reasonable to assume what Ouspensky wrote about the moon accurately reflects what Gurdjieff taught him.
    http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon

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    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    Quote Fourth Way philosophy aims to strip man of his mechanical behavior and hypnotic programming in order to build within him a core of heightened consciousness. It is an esoteric system assembled from incomplete fragments of inner Christianity and Sufism. It’s founder, Georges Gurdjieff, frequently admonished the thoughtless mechanical behavior of humanity and was fond of saying that we are “food for the moon.”

    What did Gurdjieff mean by this phrase? Many have interpreted “food for the moon” as a figure of speech, that perhaps Gurdjieff meant we are slave to our mechanical conditioning and feed our baser impulses. While it can be additionally interpreted that way, Gurdjieff was likely being literal. Peter Ouspensky, one of Gurdjieff’s most prolific disciples, lectured at length concerning the moon’s role in human affairs and its place in the cosmological scheme of things. It is reasonable to assume what Ouspensky wrote about the moon accurately reflects what Gurdjieff taught him.
    http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon

    Hi Rahkyt
    I hope all is good. It's nice to see/hear/read you again, the forum misses you.


    I went to your link on Gurdjieff and realized after I had started reading that this was all familiar and I had read it before, and that was because I happened on to a blog of yours a few months back that had to do with the Archons/Fliers.
    I looked for the blog but I failed to find it. Maybe you could post a link for folks so they can check it out.



    While on the topic of the moon, I think there is quite a bit out there. I did a thread that went no where a few months back. THE CHANI MATERIAL https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...le-accelerator-


    There was quite a bit of good stuff there on the moon along this same line of thinking.
    I've been of the opinion that maybe a good Moon thread is in order.
    I've seen enough lately to wonder if maybe we would be better off without the moon.
    Wasn't there a passage in HG Wells "The Time Machine" where HG Wells went to the future and chanced upon a day when the earth had blown up the moon?
    There is enough in the HG Wells material to make me wonder if in fact the guy was in communication with someone who had traveled in time.
    Didn't HG Wells coin the term "Atom Bomb" before the bomb was even an exercise in hypothetical physics conversations?


    I'm serious about the Moon thread, we need to open that and postulate whither or not we would be better off with or without the moon.
    Have a good one

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    I looked for the blog but I failed to find it. Maybe you could post a link for folks so they can check it out.
    That was a 4-part series I did, OPs, Archons and Flyers, Oh No! The specific mention of the phrase, "food for the moon" was in the third article, I believe.

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I've seen enough lately to wonder if maybe we would be better off without the moon.
    Wasn't there a passage in HG Wells "The Time Machine" where HG Wells went to the future and chanced upon a day when the earth had blown up the moon?


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I'm serious about the Moon thread, we need to open that and postulate whither or not we would be better off with or without the moon.
    Have a good one
    There does not seem to be a thread dedicated to such on the forum. Perhaps it would be a good place to concentrate effort and information.

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    I know nothing about the moon but!!!
    No moon, no in and out of tide--followed by stagnation, followed by death of virtually everything living.

    Am I right? I don't honestly know--it was the idea of this moment.
    Happy to be corrected.

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    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I looked for the blog but I failed to find it. Maybe you could post a link for folks so they can check it out.
    That was a 4-part series I did, OPs, Archons and Flyers, Oh No! The specific mention of the phrase, "food for the moon" was in the third article, I believe.

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I've seen enough lately to wonder if maybe we would be better off without the moon.
    Wasn't there a passage in HG Wells "The Time Machine" where HG Wells went to the future and chanced upon a day when the earth had blown up the moon?


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I'm serious about the Moon thread, we need to open that and postulate whither or not we would be better off with or without the moon.
    Have a good one
    There does not seem to be a thread dedicated to such on the forum. Perhaps it would be a good place to concentrate effort and information.

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