'The Event' - What's all this about?

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It's OK for you to specify posting criteria in the OP, OMG. You have started a fascinating discussion, one of the best recent threads. It's also OK for us to raise contrary viewpoints if we feel like it. If you want a more restricted environment, the Cosmic Voice and Cobra groups are both heavily moderated. Cosmic Voice, those bastions of freedom, just banned dozens, if not hundreds of people.

There's a saying, "all is permissible, but not all is beneficial". I for one would never attempt to stifle people's freewill choices, as long as they did the same. But limiting freedom of speech wasn't the reason for this thread's intent.

Structure and cohesiveness of like minded thought cannot occur if derisive exchange/efforts are interjected instead. If several people started to build a house and in the process some people involved decided to do other things that had nothing to do with how the house got built. What happens? Answer: The house doesn't get built. There's a lot of this stuff going on now days...

Would it not be courteous and mindful to just start another thread designed to address the problems and other issues regarding THE EVENT?

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For example:

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?

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Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.


Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.
2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

It's not that your points aren't worth consideration. It's simply that they have no place in THIS THREAD. Which creates a problem. Do I respond and break the cohesiveness by which this thread was intended? Or do I answer and start yet another tangent. Which I have already done in this thread...regrettably.

As such, I CHOOSE to NOT answer here and state that ANY replies in this thread follow the guidelines as specified. But I am going to start a NEW thread that will be more appropriate for such questions and observations.

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Since I had so many people get off topic with my thread https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-could-be-real I figured it would be better to start a NEW thread designed for analysis, questions, and various opinions instead of cluttering up the old thread any more than it already is.

If you are unfamiliar with the topic "THE EVENT" I suggest you go to the thread above and look at my first two post for a summary of what it is.

Now..."Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war"...LOL



Cheers

[Daozen]

Hi, me again. Have we met before? Anyway, thanks for opening this thread. This is one of the most constructive conversations we have had recently because it goes to the core of the human condition. I'm pasting my questions re: Cobra here... Would like to hear what you think. The only thing I ask is that, -if you had time- numbered questions should be matched with numbered answers. That's the only suggestion I'll make:

Questions Re: Cobra

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?

Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.

Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.

2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate medical and legal disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues; instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

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Posted by Daozen (here)
As a person, I don't think Cobra has many credibility issues, but I can see many holes in his story that don't add up logically. I have a strong feeling that even if I listed them, Cobra readers would ignore or dismiss them.

For example:

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?

Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.


Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.

2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

Ok, so I'm not an authority on THE EVENT although I do think it's possible. I'm trying to be mindful, as such I wish to attempt at a reply to Daozen's points he made in the last thread.

1. I see no way that COBRA could prove that he has access to vast funds if these funds are in control of the cabal. Unless he had some financial ledger. But even if he did couldn't that be faked? Also, we don't know if these are his funds in particular or funds that he has access to but maybe don't belong to him per say. For instance, they could belong to the Resistance faction he belongs with.

2. The "subterranean resistance movement" (Agarthan network) consist of numerous races and agendas. From what I understand their main objective was to tend to their own kinds and let us tend to ours. They neither had the means, inclination or military power to interact with surface folk while the negative aliens were in control. It is only fairly recently that this has changed due to more advance positive forces getting involved. And the assistance you are looking for is partially what THE EVENT is all about. Although I do not know what they base their priorities on, outside of what has been stated.

3. I have no idea why bitcoin was banned. From what I understand there will be a temporary new financial system once THE EVENT starts. Maybe bitcoin has no place with that? However, none of that matters in the long run since NO financial system will be needed as that is a by-product of a primitive and controlled race.

4. Obviously purified water is a priority for everyone. This has nothing to do with the chintamani stone's or the money used to purchase them. How do we know that these stones don't play an important role that we can't account for but has been calculated by the positive forces to reduce more suffering, etc? Also, if you wish money to be used for a specific purpose you need to establish the system and infrastructure to make it work. So maybe this purified water dispersion system isn't ready to be implemented by the Resistance.

5. I know Corey's credibility has been in question. My only response currently is that his credibility has increased in my eyes since he said a while back that the Blue Avians stated that there would be others coming forward to support aspects of his experiences. Then we got William Tompkins who has independently testified to similar aspects of the Secret Space Program (SSP). Things such as using the term "Solar Warden", etc.
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/...ues-part1.html
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/...ues-part2.html

The mystery continues...curious and curiouser...

[Daozen]

Thanks for your answers. You are here as a kind of bridge between the Cobra and Avalon groups, and acting as a diplomat, so to speak. You have also kept your cool when many people haven't agreed with you . That isn't easy. I have lost my composure many times when debating groups whose ethics I don't align with. I don't have time to respond right now, as I'm cooking lunch, but I'll be back sometime.

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I must work soon so I have to be quick...

Corey Goode, David Wilcock, The Red Dragons, Ben Fulford, Drake and Vladimir Putin enjoyed a lot more credibility this time last year, then they do now. Their believability has tanked since spring 2015. I see the same thing happening to Cobra #soon.

He validated all of the 2012 club 'media personalities' long after others questioned them, even after The Red Dragons stiffed a bunch of their followers. Cobra has had to flip flop on whether he supports these guys or not. I respect his 'loyalty'- but his support of this gang tells me he is in the same faction as all of them. I think they are all being manipulated by a subterranean -and/or surface- group that wants to preserve the status quo by disempowering key freedom initiatives, or a faction that wants to move into power after the current cabal leave.

The irony is: the financial and medical ideas offered by the Cobra group >>>>right nowt<<<< are worse than medicine available to any topsider with access to Paypal and iHerb. And they're massively expensive to anyone in the developing world. And probably worse than local roadside herbs in a poor country. 300 USD per hour is very expensive. Don't the RM care?

So his followers, while being promised Paradise (like a thousand sects who have come and gone since way before the time of Christ)- are being thrown under a bus to fend for themselves. Not just thrown under the rainbow coloured bus, they are tied to the fender and being dragged along behind it.

2. The "subterranean resistance movement" (Agarthan network) consist of numerous races and agendas. From what I understand their main objective was to tend to their own kinds and let us tend to ours. They neither had the means, inclination or military power to interact with surface folk while the negative aliens were in control. It is only fairly recently that this has changed due to more advance positive forces getting involved. And the assistance you are looking for is partially what THE EVENT is all about. Although I do not know what they base their priorities on, outside of what has been stated.

But now, according to Cobra, the subterraneans do have a voice to interact with the surface population. He is claiming to be the "official outlet for the Resistance movement" and has persisted in this claim since April 2012.

Given the poverty of resources available to Cobra's readers (which reminds me of the protein deficient diets of some cults) I conclude that the faction Cobra speaks for:

1) Does not care about the well-being of their supporters.
2) Does not know about the ill health of their supporters.
3) Is not competent to do anything about the health of their supporters with basic nutrition.
4) Do not genuinely have a clear connection to their supposed surface representative.

"Later/Soon" in the mythical future, Cobra readers believe they will get access to Elysium style tech. I hope that does exist, and believe it might. But why are they being milked so hard now? Under the hood there is a lack of ethics, transparency, competence, communication or resources.

Obviously purified water is a priority for everyone. [ ] Also, if you wish money to be used for a specific purpose you need to establish the system and infrastructure to make it work. So maybe this purified water dispersion system isn't ready to be implemented by the Resistance.

This is not obvious to Cobra readers. Leaving aside the relationship between the Chintamani stones and water for now; the infrastructure to drastically alleviate dirty water supplies *does* exist all over the place. Proctor and Gamble sachets (thanks Bob), The Lifesaver Bottle, Lifestraws, Soma, Sawyer water filters, biosand, zeolites, activated charcoal... Plus, the digital payment gateways and transport are here. They're getting better every day.

So why do Cobra supporters not care? They pay lip service to water filtration and saving lives (I think you are sincere, OMG) - but the realpolitik shows total indifference. I respect free will. They have a right to not care. But as they claim to be acting *in the name of Agartha* (including the "King of the World") and representing of positive subterraneans, I find the jewelry before filtration priorities of the entire group to be frustrating, funny, and sometimes downright chilling.

The people of Africa have no water to drink? Why... let them drink shakes.

Maybe the rumours are true, and I am a "disinfo agent", or a big-mouthed hydroponic farmer who doesn't understand the "sophisticated energy dynamics" of the Chintamani project. But alt media history says I might be right: Corey, Drake, David Wilcock, The Red Dragons, The Galactic Federation of Light (Cobra used the GFOL until the pushback became too intense) Ben Fulford, The Galactic Wave of Love, the -Abundance- promised in early 2016, .... the Mass arrests, the QEG...

All of these are dust_in_the_road. Sound and fury... => 0

So why should the Chintamani project be any different? I can't take on faith what the Cobra group is offering, because they have nearly always been wrong. And they continue to lose traction like a cat on a rainy lead roof.

No offence to the makers of the QEG. I am just using it as an example of one of Cobra's missteps. It's OK to make mistakes. It's fine to make a million mistakes. But it's not OK to fraudulently pass yourself off as a spokesman of a benevolent subterranean civilization.

OK that's all... Yes I have ranted too much, but I have a lot to get off my chest.

The context of the media group he is with, the indifference towards medical and financial suffering, the low quality solutions, the constant errors, and the prohibitive pricing of his medical care are all big red flags. Luckily, a lot of people agree with me, because his petition signatures have dropped by nearly 70percent.

Agartha is real, the 2012 pretenders are not...

One more thing. When subterraneans come up here, they sometimes pose as beggars.... Hmmmm. Curious indeed!

[DNA]

Stewart Swerdlow states that there are absolutely NO friendly races towards the earth human, only races with different agendas on how to USE the earth human.
Swerdlow states that there are races of whom we would deem quite positive that are viewing the human race as a dangerous experiment and that they contemplate whether they should put to an end to mankind and be done with us.

If I'm going to quote folks who could be classified as Captain Crazy, it seems Swerdlow is a much more vetted source than Corey Goode.
Swerdlow has been vetted by Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron. Corey Goode has been vetted by David Wilcock who's Montauk source was a janitor who talked to him at a pancake house while noticing what Wilcock was reading.

In Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers, it is stated that the alien who crash landed and was rescued by Morningsky's Apache Grandfather stated that the earth and mankind are the source of struggles between different alien factions who are presently battling for the rights of this place.

This is echoed in Kerry Cassidy's Interviews with Mark Richards of the secret space program. Mark Richards states that it is very important to understand that we are the beneficiary of various selfishly motivated alien groups who are fighting without victory over ownership of our planet. If any of these groups were to win out right, they would be capable of defeating us in next to no time what so ever. And at that point we would be at the mercy of whatever plans they had.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tpO9Eghln4g

[ZenBaller]

1) If the Event is esoteric and has to do with a leap in human consciousness, then all opinions and mind chatter about it actually hinders it. A spiritual breakthrough can only happen through Heart, so mental analyses don't help. We have to let it flourish by itself without putting up mental barriers and expectations.

2) If the Event has to do with mundane activities like a new financial system, arrests and "official" first contact, then it's quite obvious that it is a form of manipulation and it is orchestrated by entities with self-interest.

3) The Event can be both of the above, depending on where each person stands inside.

[Agape]

Stewart Swerdlow states that there are absolutely NO friendly races towards the earth human, only races with different agendas on how to USE the earth human.
Swerdlow states that there are races of whom we would deem quite positive that are viewing the human race as a dangerous experiment and that they contemplate whether they should put to an end to mankind and be done with us.

If I'm going to quote folks who could be classified as Captain Crazy, it seems Swerdlow is a much more vetted source than Corey Goode.
Swerdlow has been vetted by Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron. Corey Goode has been vetted by David Wilcock who's Montauk source was a janitor who talked to him at a pancake house while noticing what Wilcock was reading.

In Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers, it is stated that the alien who crash landed and was rescued by Morningsky's Apache Grandfather stated that the earth and mankind are the source of struggles between different alien factions who are presently battling for the rights of this place.

This is echoed in Kerry Cassidy's Interviews with Mark Richards of the secret space program. Mark Richards states that it is very important to understand that we are the beneficiary of various selfishly motivated alien groups who are fighting without victory over ownership of our planet. If any of these groups were to win out right, they would be capable of defeating us in next to no time what so ever. And at that point we would be at the mercy of whatever plans they had.

Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses ,
sociological predictions and deliberations and all that has to do with awareness of 'where humanity has gone wrong'

but their statements of behalf of 'all ET races' are not only outrageous and far 'out of the ball' where their typically human awareness goes ,
they are no experts in extraterrestrial affairs , forgive me to say that .

I feel I should not because from the ETs point of view , debating such people is completely a waste of time so far .

To trace the origins of their motives and intentions just go back to the history and where it started in the modern era ,
it all started with high hopes and expectations .. from the ET . Hopes in getting to know any of them face to face , finding about their complicated reality , determining how can we communicate and assist each other .

When there were no immediate 'proofs on plate' and the evidence offered remained shrouded in clouds and mystery events ,
those desiring power or lets say, thinking they're automatically entitled to information of 'another kind' and best prepared to receive it because their 'inherent right' to rulership of human groups,
right they assumed and proclaimed to themselves and their families for thousands of years,
these people fell on their sword proclaiming themselves 'initiated by bloodline' ,

the same feature they themselves so often condemn , holding an argument with and against some of the current royalty of the planet .

By doing so and with further implicated conviction that traces their 'supposed ancestry' back to 'powerful dracos' these people have gone very far now to misleading you,

and downgrading your supposed beliefs to another power loving , animistic principle you're , supposedly again , be fighting through all history and to future .

Like every 'fight' , 'jihad' and 'struggle' , such calls for war and awakening are maybe 'sociologically correct' but really far from being 'objective truth'

where human origin , legacy and philosophy is concerned .


But ... till all people admire are fights , aggression, violence , outsmarting and overpowering each other , these people and their stories will play on their minds
and that's the catch 22 , for you.


If any of them had real feeling - connection and objective experience with the ET, they would be so much cautious to assign any aggressive motivation to them or claim knowledge of them ,
which now they're doing . Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .

[DNA]

Posted by Agape (here)
Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses

So Robert Morningsky's Apache Grandfather is an expert in mind control?
There is no reason to be defensive. I'm just making correlations.

Posted by Agape (here)
Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .

I would definitely state there are those on this forum with illusions especially those so sure of the alien's intentions.

[Agape]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by Agape (here)
Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses

So Robert Morningsky's Apache Grandfather is an expert in mind control?
There is no reason to be defensive. I'm just making correlations.

I think I've specifically excepted Robert Morningsky from my comment .

Posted by Agape (here)
Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .

I would definitely state there are those on this forum with illusions especially those so sure of the alien's intentions.

That was not the content or meaning of my message . I wonder what makes people like you calling me overtly 'delusional' ,
for not confirming with the 'alien as portrayed by your gurus' paradigm and are you even remotely aware of how much do I know about it.

Who gives you the right ?





It MAY WELL BE the problem I'm facing with this movement right from the beginning , your level of 'knowledge' and beliefs , beyond which perhaps, you're not destined to go because ?
I've asked Bill to throw me out, couple of times ..rather than being made an idiot by common consent ,
if you ask what for , it's obvious vulnerability anyone would suffer without malicious intents supporting intents of humanitarian , peace loving and non aggressive race of beings,
for my disapproval of what you so admire , the animal like warfare you call me 'delusional' ?

For not being part of your paradigm, your nationalistic, racial, ethical disputes, your adherence to 'must be' wars,
for that you've never noticed me ?

Purely rhetorical questions .. you don't have to answer them .



The way I was handled by this very movement and what I saw within its cheerleaders , from the start was proportional to THEIR BELIEFS. They were full of them , beliefs.

They were not interested in knowledge or capable of running skeptic check of their own beliefs , on behalf of new information ,
they're fully involved with the control mechanisms they operate and you have no right to tell me 'you too'. Because that would be simply a LIE in this case.

The same people can't think free anymore because their heads are full of it , so this is the people who speak to you 'for ETs' ?

Outrageous

[DNA]

Posted by Agape (here)

That was not the content or meaning of my message . I wonder what makes people like you calling me overtly 'delusional'
for not confirming with the 'alien as portrayed by your gurus' paradigm and are you even remotely aware of how much do I know about it.Who gives you the right ?

First off, all I did was correlate a small group of individuals who have a similar message.
Now, I could understand Swerdlow's point here. I mean we are a Frankenstien race. Right? We are the recipient of who knows how many alien genetic implants over thousands of years. We are certainly dangerous. And we do seem poised to begin space explorations and projecting our crazy out into the galaxy. So you do have to admit Swerdlow has a point, and it does make a little sense certain alien groups would want to contain the pathogen as some alien races consider humans to be.

Now I certainly hope guys like Swerdlow are wrong. I really do. But again, I'm just correlating data from folks who have offered some amazing information. And they most certainly are not my guru. I mean Bill and Kerry interviewed Stewart Swerdlow, does that make him Bill and Kerry's guru?

In so far as offending you, I apologize. I was simply pointing out the silliness of anyone having knowledge of or having convictions regarding what aliens are doing here. I mean, LOL how could any of us know? Right?
I certainly do not. I'm only posting what I feel are the interesting thoughts of those who are considered experts on the subject.

Have a good day Agape

[Agape]

First off, all I did was correlate a small group of individuals who have a similar message.
Now, I could understand Swerdlow's point here. I mean we are a Frankenstien race. Right? We are the recipient of who knows how many alien genetic implants over thousands of years. We are certainly dangerous. And we do seem poised to begin space explorations and projecting our crazy out into the galaxy. So you do have to admit Swerdlow has a point, and it does make a little sense certain alien groups would want to contain the pathogen as some alien races consider humans to be.

Understood and thanks for making the point for me , in open .

I beg to have different set of data , qualitatively speaking , and I've not called humanity 'frankensteinian race' despite their own willingness to do so .

I've tried to convey in my personal testimony how the ancestors of humanity were in fact, not only humanoid but advanced and highly humane, read naturally ethical and ascended in their awareness,
that 'humanity's own blueprint and archetype is of noble descent despite the millions of years of evolution and devolution and cross breeding with various lower or even remotely e.t. life forms ,
I could even go to details and did once or twice in past to detail to which extent were such experiments carried on , none to big harms really ,

to paraphrase Keanu Reeves in the movie 'The Earth Stood Still' ''the problem is not technologies, the problem is you'' ,

it's upon each human being I BELIEVE , to make a choice for themselves .

Our ancestors suffered an accident here that set the whole wheel of mortality and suffering for them , for millions of years to come ,
emergence of new kind of beings - the humans .

You don't have this data but i tried to convey those to appropriate institutions , so far they're drown , under the ocean of human myths , the common unconscious that creates stories and explanations .
Why do I even think you would choose the right option out of all ... but few people always will ( Call it faith . How many times did I fall for my faith in mankind ? )

Human life is known for its fight for freedom . Everyone ( almost, can't forget extreme cases when this is not possible ) are free to choose between 'being dignified humanbeing' , being a 'drone' or being a 'monster' .

Cultivating violence and faith in monsters certainly does lead close to monsters .

Now if you abide by choosing the 'dignified humane' option, in your body , speech and Mind, moment after moment that's how you get back to yourself ,

and your own true knowledge.


Peace to your DNA as well

[Morbid]

perhaps the forced dismantle of the financial sector and destruction of wealth and values would be an ultimate test of global consciousness.. how would humanity behave in such scenario? would they accept the new paradigm and remain human to each other or stomp off for the sake of ownership? if acquisition still remain a target #1 then we are surely doomed as them folks are usually the aggressive bunch.
i made a little experiment today. two guys that im supervising at the moment always moan, compete and seek material growth - so today i spent all working day giving them all i can even at the expense of my pocket, turns out they dont really need any of it as when against all odds its presented to them they become scared and they run away from it while being completely blind that it took me effort and energy to do it. its sad as they dont actually know for sure what they want and for such specimens money become the ultimate 'wantingness'. being stuck in the 'want' cycle of the ego is an unfortunate consequence of our society.
wish i could continue writing this but i got to go buy a new car!

[Kindred]

Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
Well said. I'm shooting for Unity Consciousness and no longer giving my power away due to deceptive systems.
I AM free. I don't participate or give my attention to the old systems. I'm not paying any attention to tv or elections.
I will not vote for someone to represent me; I will remain. Universal Sovereign choosing to live by higher ethics and morals than man's corrupted laws and institutions. I will focus my energy on solutions, specifically using my gifts and talents to help make the world a better place. I'm not waiting for any outer event. The event already took place inside of me. I am free.

I apply all the laws of the physics of consciousness to the overall well-being of my greater Self and I'm still overcoming old patterns so I can get better. I intend to help the most amount of people in the shortest amount of linear time, but I function in a non local nonlinear fashion when I live from the inside out. No victim hood. We are all embracing our soul powers.

Maybe the event for humanity will be when we (escaping deception) reach the great threshold and realize we really are just here to love and serve one another. I love God the All.

I remain opti-mystic for great events to occur based on the evolution of consciousness.
Michelle Marie

Well Said, Indeed! You have made a far more direct and complete statement than I. I Thank You!

Regardless of the OP's preferences and focus, I truly feel that, as you so eloquently point out... It is what We do, as individuals, on a daily basis, with Perseverance and Love, that will truly change our world.. "BE the change you wish to see in the world".

Outside of that, I personally feel (KNOW) that there are 'benevolents', 'out there', that have tried very hard to help us. However, our ego's (and some 'nasties') get in the way. The Vast majority of humans live good lives, and have good hearts. When we live from a Love-centered/Heart-centered place, the ego naturally falls away to a level commensurate with a more beneficial way of life for ALL. These beings have the means and the understanding to assist humanity, but we've got to do the 'heavy lifting'... and they will provide the 'kick' when it will help the most.
please see a previous post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1059283

In Unity, Peace and Love

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Too funny...

This thread was created to address all of the obvious analysis and feedback that people wished to share. But no one is really participating now.

** Is it that people prefer to write when they see Bill involved? Since it is obvious that when Bill writes there is an increase in thread participation.

** Or that they like to rebel against the threads intent and since that isn't relevant here they lost interest?

** Or they got their two cents out in the old thread and have moved on?

** Or what?

And I noticed there is spoof thread started my 9ofClubs regarding this subject (which I haven't read yet...bet that's going to be a blast)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-and-paralysis



The fun never stops...

[Daozen]

I think most of us realize Cobra has hit that point where he will probably just drift away like a dozen others... If you wanted to continue the discussion, you could speculate on why cures available to Cobra supporters are t0o expensive for 95 percent of people, and of lower quality than current nutritional supplements . \ 0>0 / What does that say about his sponsors? I read his comments section sometimes. You guys are having a bad time down here.

Also, how would you live differently if you knew we were going to be stuck here for another 50 years? I ask myself that question most days.

[Daozen]

Hmmmm. Strange. I was learning programming, and googled "anti-pattern". When I read the description, I found a lot of links that fit the subject of this thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_...ect_management)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in

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And here's when it gets really weird:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Command

Cobra Commander - The leader and founder of the Cobra organization. His face is almost always obscured, either by a hood with only his eyes visible, or by a featureless, high-tech battle helmet attached to various security features. In the Sunbow cartoon, this concealment was used to hide inhuman disfigurement, as well as the later retcon that he was an advance agent from a race of reptilian serpent people known as "Cobra-La". In the comic, it is merely to maintain the secret of his civilian identity. He is regarded as the most dangerous man on Earth because of his ability to attract followers. Only the Baroness and Destro have seen his face.

I am not making this up...

Cobra had its beginnings when the financially ruined man who would become Cobra Commander settled in an American town called Springfield. Blaming the federal government and big business for his misfortunes, he conceived a plan of forming a secret organization to acquire wealth and power and thereby take his revenge on the world. Springfield was a perfect place to start the organization, as the town itself had fallen on hard times and the population was disillusioned. Soon, the organization was growing with the entry of like-minded individuals from all over the country. Much of Cobra’s early funding came from pyramid schemes and other semi-legitimate business plans, and that financial success allowed a gradual and intense takeover.[5]
In a very short time, Cobra evolved from a business into a paramilitary movement. Motivated by greed and power, the group soon expanded all over the country, operating in secret, engaging in terrorism to achieve their objectives. By the time the U.S. government recognized Cobra as a threat, the organization had already gained footholds as a powerful private army and terrorist organization around the world.

Many of its members (especially those in the elite Crimson Guard units) lead seemingly normal lives, supporting Cobra covertly. Cobra attracted members with the promise of fast financial rewards and power for those willing to be ruthless enough. It also offered a world of order and strength, with its "model community" of Springfield being one example of the Cobra ideal.

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The Sunbow cartoon did not explore how Cobra began. It was only in G.I. Joe: The Movie that it is revealed that the organization was a front runner for a 40,000-year-old underground civilization called Cobra-La, whose snake-like inhabitants were driven underground by the advent of humankind. Cobra Commander was, in actuality, a member of this underground race. He was tasked with creating an organization that would overrun the world at large.

Here's the good news:

https://www.ketto.org/

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

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Posted by Redstar Kachina (here)
Practice honesty and truthfulness in all your affairs and you will see things as they are, without the need to ping external parties for information that has proven to be unreliable at best.

At first glance this is a good quote but it makes assumptions and accusations that might not be accurate. For example:

1. Assuming one is acting out of honesty/truthfulness, which is how we should act obviously, does not mean we won't have questions or find value in others information. It sounds like any attempt to inquire from others is somehow wrong.

2. The word "need" and making an overall absolute value paradox with this quote is what gives it the inaccurate assumption. An absolute value paradox is a statement that cannot be argued if perceived a certain way, such as saying "I believe that GOD directs my decisions therefore I am never wrong and you cannot disprove GOD."

3. By writing the quote in the first place you have displayed that your honesty/truthfulness is capable of pinging external parties of your information.

All said...I still liked the quote and would hope everyone posting here would always act from the conscience of honesty/truthfulness. We'd definitely be better off...