Rich Planet: Stephen Hawking possibly replaced?

[thepainterdoug]

Hey Friends / Im a Rich Planet fan. Rich hall has a news 3 part presentation that covers many issues. However the last section of part 3 talks about Steven Hawking possibly being dead for years and replaced . JUST SAYIN...

starts at the 29 min mark of part 3/ you can then watch entire if you like.

http://www.richplanet.net/starship_m...ref=223&part=3

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Hey Friends / Im a Rich Planet fan. Rich hall has a news 3 part presentation that covers many issues. However the last section of part 3 talks about Steven Hawking possibly being dead for years and replaced . JUST SAYIN...

starts at the 29 min mark of part 3/ you can then watch entire if you like.

http://www.richplanet.net/starship_m...ref=223&part=3

Miles Mathis has come to similar conclusions. From his web page:

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376. The Brave New World of Stephen Hawking (November 21, 2011; pdf). The dystopia you are being sold. 15pp.

377. Stephen Hawking died and has been replaced (April 17, 2015; pdf). I show lots of photographic evidence that Hawking died in 1985 and has been played by an impostor since then. 36pp.

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Aha - at 31:12, Rich refers to Mark Mathis' paper on Hawking. No wonder they are telling similar stories .

[ZenBaller]

I have not read or listened to any of this information, but based on my intuition, I see a definite downhill turn in Hawking's statements and vibe the past few years. Quotes with negative flavour are more frequent, as well as others which are been used in fear mongering scifi movies. There's definitely something wrong and this could be the reason.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I have to set time aside to listen to these shows...I'm up to my eyeballs in the Daniel papers( wow!)...

I'm not intuitive or psychic, or a precog or an anything, as a matter of fact I'm the last to know anything. Anyway, I usually don't make feelings like this known, but I have a "feeling" that if there's anyone in the world Has been replaced, cloned or tinkered with, it's stephen hawking.

Let's just say I wouldn't be shocked if it were ever disclosed. Lol. For real. Like real news, disclosed. Don't ask me what that would look like though!

Anyway, it's an interesting topic and raises loads of questions. I look forward to the shows thanks!

[Akasha]

Mathis questions why Hawking would have had a tracheostomy while suffering from pneumonia, however the NHS explains that the procedure is sometimes used in both pneumonia and motor neurone disease.

That said, he (whoever he actually is) hasn't wasted any time in contributing to Project Fear.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Followed Richard D. Hall for some years now. He's an excellent and very brave guy not afraid to tackle any subject no matter how controversial. A very recommended watch, literally 100s of hours of material, everything from 9/11 to the Secret Space program to, evidenly, celebrity deaths/switcheroos.

It's such a damn shame however that his show (which used to run on 'Showcase' -just a fringe channel on satellite/cable here in the UK) has been pulled - more typical BS media supression of the truth. He explains at the beginning of his new, internet-only, show here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgo3qBxQRQA

[kirolak]

I wonder how anyone would effect a switch? I am not saying it is impossible, but the logistics are fearsome....does Dr hawking have no other relatives? I agree the pictures are odd, but perhaps he is swollen from some sort of prescription drug, like cortisone? Wouldn't his dental & medical records have to be faked afterwards? And perhaps the teeth were implanted, but went wrong? WHY would anyone allow the poor man, whoever he may be, to appear in public with the lower teeth protruding like that?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

My thinking on this is exactly as yours, Kirolak. The logistics to carry out a 'switch' of Stephen Hawking would be no simple matter, even if we are talking clones here. You'd have to create/develop/cultivate an identical being, with an identical medical condition, which is at the identical stage, to pull off a sudden cut 'n' paste switch. But considering that his disease has a natural and predictable conclusion, resulting in his inevitable death (at most 20 years on from initial diagnosis), then it becomes doubly difficult - because you would potentially have to do further switches in the future to keep him going.

And would the clone have all the same memories, characteristics, personality (and personality disorders), dispositions, behaviours, sense of humour and so forth, than the original - not to mention a genius intellect?

And what about his family? If someone close to you was switched, could it take place without your knowledge? Over time, wouldn't you notice all the inevitable, subtle differences? And we're talking about a celebrity as well, someone in the public eye. That's a lot of eyes. And it's a hard sell - to convince everyone and get away with it.

Then you have to ask yourself why...? It would require a great deal of effort to achieve this, and for so long, so there would have to be big, big, very important reasons to perform this replacement in the first place. If he was a threat, let's say, to the official mainstream scientific narrative, and it was a serious enough threat to do something about, it would be a lot easier to simply remove him. He has a terminal disease after all, so it would be easy. I'm not saying all this is impossible, but when you parse it all out, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense either - at least not near enough to justify all the effort and industry and subsequent cover-up to pull it off.

If a mate of mine appeared to have different or suddenly weird teeth one day, I'd say, "mate, whats up with those teeth?" I wouldn't automatically think "CLONE!" I would expect a rational, but other explanation first.

[Basho]

Posted by Shannon (here)
Yeah, I have to set time aside to listen to these shows...I'm up to my eyeballs in the Daniel papers( wow!)...

Sorry for going off topic. But just want to thank you Shannon for mentioning the Daniel papers. Would never have known about them if I didn't read this thread. Wow, indeed! Ended up reading the more than half of the series in a few hours. Bout to finish the rest today.

I believe that Daniel had another series of papers a couple of years ago also. Which was just as good but I had a hard time buying into the concept that human history is only thousands of years old & the earth not much older. I still do have a hard time believing that theory, which he repeats in this series.

What he writes about resonates very deeply with me. But I take these writings with a grain of salt, like the ruiner material. Daniel papers are much more believable which is based on science with lots of evidence. Whereas the ruiner stuff is in the realm of fantasy, really hard to believe. But a great read also.

Not sure if I'm out of bounds asking this, but is the conscioushugs forum ran by the 2 longstanding Avalon mod/admin that were recently retired?

I feel that the Daniel papers need its own thread. There's a good chance that a lot of people would enjoy reading it if they were to run across it.

[Shannon]

Posted by kirolak (here)
I wonder how anyone would effect a switch? I am not saying it is impossible, but the logistics are fearsome....does Dr hawking have no other relatives? I agree the pictures are odd, but perhaps he is swollen from some sort of prescription drug, like cortisone? Wouldn't his dental & medical records have to be faked afterwards? And perhaps the teeth were implanted, but went wrong? WHY would anyone allow the poor man, whoever he may be, to appear in public with the lower teeth protruding like that?

Yeah I know right? ... I agree.

Just speaking as a dental assistant here, I don't know anyone who spend the money on getting dental implants and having the teeth custom made to look like that mess!?!

Celebrities like Chris rock is an obvious example of dental implants. It's goes roughly like this, new crowns that will be cemented onto the abutment that are then screwed into the jaw bone wil be made to fit the persons smile, be lighter (whiter) but natural in color, aligned, presentable, and will not show the root under and the gums like that. Same goes esthetically if he were wearing a denture, which he is not. Those are real teeth. It's bad. :/

[Agape]

I think he's a miracle of modern medicine and their pride in what they're capable of nowadays if they want to and if there's enough money to treat the patient as they should.
You know looking at it from the medical perspective and mums carer from early age who suffered from debilitating chronic disease since she became mother almost
and herself , was bright thinker till her last days and years of life - incredible compared to what procedures her body was taken through over the years ,
and medical professional herself - she used to joke there's nothing they can't replace nowadays and she'll be here yet 100 years later with all body parts replaced .

But that was a joke of course . Mum is gone since last year and despite her spirit, vigour and inner strength .. things I've seen personally , happening in the institute of experimental and clinical medicine where she was treated for at least 16 years of her life were not really 'happy things' or 'happy people'.
It does NOT mean criticism on behalf of the institute , the doctors who do nothing than save lives or the method where people agree to it.

It's just feeling slightly ( if not more ) unnatural .. to me .. prolonging lives at every possible cost in the name of the 'scientific method' , only to test whether and how it works , how long 'it' ( the patient ) can last ,
most of this is happening behind closed doors of course . It's usually a tragedy and places high demands of the family of the patient ..and the hospital and destroys most people social life or reduces it to barebones.

People with severe disability who somehow make it to 'shining stars' of todays media are still very much an exception above a norm .
The reality behind .. much larger, less visible ..is mostly, very cruel.


Where physical appearances are concerned, those can be very deceptive .. especially in people with lifelong chronic diseases . I suppose that a real 'gene battle' ( not sure the term was established already ) is taking place within some of those individuals,
between the 'good set of genes' that keep them alive , thinking and looking well and the 'bad gene sequences' taking life down by dozens .
I've seen some old people with similar conditions looking so amazingly young and beautiful that it is the first marker catching your suspicion that 'something odd' is going on with that person.
On the other hand and when serious neuromotoric disease affect the young you may find yourself looking old and totally different on 'bad days' compared to how you look on 'good days' .
There may be something to the flexibility of our genomic potential and its markers related indirectly to some of these often terminal and debilitating diseases ,
quite as shown in the miracle of Prof Hawking .

It may show the 'cutting edge' line of potential we may be unlocking , biologically but till we are ready to do that and undergo the 'big evolutionary leap' and transformation of one stage of humanity to another, safely,
what happens instead is like counteracting endless biological drawbacks and falling from the 'ascension leader' .
With grace, we need to care for those who have tried, at least.


What I would stress openly is how many 'similar patients' do not live long or not having the same quality of life simply does depend on money and quality of care available ( at least in 50% cases, in my opinion ).
Lots in neural and brain function even in old age can be repaired with large and repeated doses of vitamins, for example .
The 'conventional' medical community don't want to hear about it , young docs following books especially and the blame game goes on between many sides if doctors aren't well informed and people are left with limited set of options.

The etiology and definitions of diseases like the ALS are not well known or clear-cut.

Even in healthy people and what many somehow misunderstand about their body functions .. it's a living being . It's not a machine or piece of machinery .
It's intelligent and 'terra incognita' for even ... the best of todays physicists