...And the Wolf Shall Dwell With The Lamb?

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by shaberon (here)
Seems off-topic...

But I do not think it is.

Not only are we asking ourselves to assimilate the split second videography that you made mention of, but often multiple story-lines at the same time, then to factor in the twist, and wait for all to be revealed (and that is just drama). Too much information, which I believe may be having a deleterious effect on our ability to concentrate and possess a clear recollection of past events. Imagine a wisdom teaching delivered in that manner...actually don't imagine that, as the two are polar opposites, best left apart.

To me, it is akin to speed reading. Yes, the brain can process information at phenomenal speed, and if all you wish to achieve is the assimilation of information, it may well work. The books that I read however require time: time to ponder and question. Further, I believe that time is what we all need, as a race, lest our lives become a finite stream of single second grabs, and our expectation on our ability to recollect is that we do such in a similar, split-second manner. Little wonder memories are becoming dodgy.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I'm not all that convinced by this Mandela effect theory - I've tried, I've really tried to get there, but nothing I've seen 'yet' gets me across the line.

"The Lion shall Lie down with the Lamb", for example, hasn't changed, it's still there in popular culture

Is it just possible that sometimes people might get a bit dazed or bewildered with how they remembered something, and then guess, second guess, and re-guess again until they're not quite sure what it was in the beginning, but get convinced (incorrectly) it was actually "this" rather than "that"??

I do get the 'Sex in the City' and 'Interview With A Vampire' confusion – I thought it was those too. But I'm open to the possibility that I'm quite wrong. Memes can bend your mind, and program your thoughts - and it's more likely to me that 'Sex in the City' as a title (as a meme and a buzzword) became more popular on people's lips than 'Sex And the City', even though the former is not actually the right title.

I'm also open to the possibility of parallel or alternate timelines – but if they were overlapping with our own timeline somehow, and some people were able to remember changes in their perceived realities, I'd expect these changes to be a little bit more meaningful than movie titles and titbits – because it always seems to be just movie titles and titbits of dialogue etc. A lot can be explained away too. "Beam me up, Scotty" as a slogan for example, has been around for years, and it's very well known that it never actually got mentioned in dialogue - in any episode or film. The closest Kirk ever got to it was "Scotty, beam me up," once, in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Similar to "Elementary, my dear Watson." Myth and invention, because Homes never said it!

That said, there was one, tiny little 'mandela effect' I myself experienced some years ago (long before I ever heard of the phenomenon). I saw an advert for the sports brand, Adidas. I had a sports bag, as well as football boots as a kid, that were made by that brand. But I could have sworn, sworn, it was spelt "Addidas" with two d's. It was scrawled across my sports bag for years!

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
That said, there was one, tiny little 'mandela effect' I myself experienced some years ago (long before I ever heard of the phenomenon). I saw an advert for the sports brand, Adidas. I had a sports bag, as well as football boots as a kid, that were made by that brand. But I could have sworn, sworn, it was spelt "Addidas" with two d's. It was scrawled across my sports bag for years!

G'day Star Mariner,

A non-genuine item perhaps, with deliberately miss spelt logo to avoid copyright issues. Well...maybe.

My first thought was that you may have subconsciously associated a word containing the string a,d,d,i with the brand of Adidas, as there is a single 'd' in it. When encountering a new word, the brain will attempt to make such an association in an attempt to quicken future recognition, and to differentiate between the two words. This may be especially true when we encounter abstract words, like Adidas, which originates from the brands founder Adi Dassler.

According to More Words there are 98 words that contain this particular string of letters. The first word that sprang to my mind was Aladdin, but then that's a name, so I'll leave it at 98. Aladdin / Adidas was a known association that still occurs to me to this time.

[DNA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbnS-CU-sKI

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YbnS-CU-sKI

My wife's been reading up on this and confiding in what exactly in all of this is convincing her it may be true. And for her, it is this weird thing with the Brady Bunch.
She states that she and her sisters were experts on all things Brady Bunch, but that she has just learned that there was a show within a show, the Brady Bunch Variety Hour, and this amounted to something like seven 1 hour shows that she never saw, which she simply can't believe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhObKKvzijc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rhObKKvzijc

For me it's the little things.
Like being perplexed at the spelling of a word, that seems to have changed.

[DNA]

Here is the actual video my wife watched where upon someone is discussing the mandella effect in connection with Cern and merging realities.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_-mZRdHIMW4

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by DNA (here)
Here is the actual video my wife watched where upon someone is discussing the mandela effect in connection with Cern and merging realities.

G'day DNA,

The following excerpt is from a YT comment at 6:38 in the video above.

"If this really is "real", then I think the world (as it exists in this timeline/universe/whatever) would do itself a tremendous favor to try and forget that this show ever happened".

Which is probably...what has happened. We are going back forty years after all, and memories of life's most forgettable moments do fade (quickly).

From Wikipedia:

"On November 28, 1976, a two-hour television special entitled The Brady Bunch Variety Hour aired on ABC. Eve Plumb was the only regular cast member from the original show who declined to be in the series and the role of Jan was recast with Geri Reischl.[29] Produced by Sid and Marty Krofft, the sibling team behind H.R. Pufnstuf, Donny and Marie, and other variety shows and children's series of the era, the show was intended to air every fifth week in the same slot as The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries, but ended up being scheduled sporadically throughout the season, leading to inconsistent ratings and its inevitable cancellation". (emphasis mine)

Tell your wife to rest easy, as she probably never saw this show to begin with, or her cerebral garbage disposal unit was functioning just fine .

Thanks for the post,

Tony.

[DNA]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
Here is the actual video my wife watched where upon someone is discussing the mandela effect in connection with Cern and merging realities.

G'day DNA,

The following excerpt is from a YT comment at 6:38 in the video above.

"If this really is "real", then I think the world (as it exists in this timeline/universe/whatever) would do itself a tremendous favor to try and forget that this show ever happened".

Which is probably...what has happened. We are going back forty years after all, and memories of life's most forgettable moments do fade (quickly).

From Wikipedia:

"On November 28, 1976, a two-hour television special entitled The Brady Bunch Variety Hour aired on ABC. Eve Plumb was the only regular cast member from the original show who declined to be in the series and the role of Jan was recast with Geri Reischl.[29] Produced by Sid and Marty Krofft, the sibling team behind H.R. Pufnstuf, Donny and Marie, and other variety shows and children's series of the era, the show was intended to air every fifth week in the same slot as The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries, but ended up being scheduled sporadically throughout the season, leading to inconsistent ratings and its inevitable cancellation". (emphasis mine)

Tell your wife to rest easy, as she probably never saw this show to begin with, or her cerebral garbage disposal unit was functioning just fine .

Thanks for the post,

Tony.

It's not as simple as that.
My wife LOVED the Brady Bunch. She bought books concerning Brady Bunch trivia as a young kid. She knew ALL of the various incarnations of the Brady Bunch, via movies, or to be continued episodes, and she knew all of the various projects the actors had been in subsequently.
What you stated would apply just fine to myself. Though I was very surprised to see this, I wasn't going to state it never happened, never being more than a casual fan of the show as a child.


Here is a video with Andrew Bisiago talking about the mandela effect.
Pretty cool stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az1bzlVaqjE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Az1bzlVaqjE

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by DNA (here)
It's not as simple as that.

Granted DNA...

I knew that my post was a humorous oversimplification, hence the chuckle. What we are discussing here is pretty mind blowing stuff, and the door should be left open to its possible authenticity.

Unfortunately we can only speculate as to the possible cause, and hopefully not get hung-up.

Tony.

**Update**

That radio interview is certainly "pretty cool stuff", and well worth a listen.

I need a Bex and a little lie down!

Tony.

[skyflower]

Is it just me or does it seem this Mandela effect is gaining traction? I feel a lot more people are talking about it.....

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by skyflower (here)
Is it just me or does it seem this Mandela effect is gaining traction? I feel a lot more people are talking about it.....

Hi skyflower,

Good to hear from you again.

This thread has certainly been an eye-opener, as I had not heard of the Mandela effect before, and yes, there is much internet natter on the subject. If you haven't done so already, have a listen to the radio interview that DNA included in post #47, and take a look at the Mandela Effect website. Although I cannot say that I have any lost memories that may be attributed to the effect, out of respect I think it necessary to adopt the observer stance, and treat others claims with respect.

Tony

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Had a look through a long list of reported mandela effect happenings, and a very great many of them I think can simply be put down to bad memory, bad spelling, and just personal error. For example some remembering the phrase "at least" being spelt "atleast" (one word). I believe that is just bad memory and bad spelling, rather than one having shifted into another timeline.

There are some strange instances though, like "Walt Disney World". I've always known it as simply "Disney World". Nor is the name "Smithsonian Institution" all that familiar, I'm more accustomed with "Smithsonian Institute". I don't know why that is. It could be because they are popularly and culturally known a particular (shortened) way, and are used to such an extent that their 'official names' are largely forgotten.

But there was one listed mandela effect example that really caught me by surprise. And I'm not sure what to think, or how to explain it. I've watched Star Wars – all the Star Wars films – since virtually the beginning. I've seen them literally dozens of times over the years. There are bound to be geeks on here like me. So you tell me, what colour are C3PO's legs?

Apparently, one of them is silver, and has always been silver:



I am really, really surprised by that finding. I have no recollection of C3PO having one silver leg. I don't know if that's mandela effect or faulty memory. Probably faulty memory - I saw it, but never consciously registered it. Now that I have registered it, it's just really surprising to me I never noticed it before.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
Had a look through a long list of reported mandela effect happenings, and a very great many of them I think can simply be put down to bad memory, bad spelling, and just personal error. For example some remembering the phrase "at least" being spelt "atleast" (one word). I believe that is just bad memory and bad spelling, rather than one having shifted into another timeline.

I've spent a bit of time looking in to this and I totally agree about the bad memory and bad spelling. Many of the claims are just plain wrong as I have somewhat of a photographic memory and have found numerous mistakes in almost all of these claims and video's.

Of course some things I am not familiar with and don't have a clue either way what was what back then, but what I am familiar with these people seem to just can't or don't want to remember.

The world is in such a mess I think a large reason many are jumping in to this "Mandella" craze head first is that deep down in their subconscious and inner being they want things to change so bad from the sad state of affairs many things are in now that they are willing to believe about anything....

[skyflower]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by skyflower (here)
Is it just me or does it seem this Mandela effect is gaining traction? I feel a lot more people are talking about it.....

Hi skyflower,

Good to hear from you again.

This thread has certainly been an eye-opener, as I had not heard of the Mandela effect before, and yes, there is much internet natter on the subject. If you haven't done so already, have a listen to the radio interview that DNA included in post #47, and take a look at the Mandela Effect website. Although I cannot say that I have any lost memories that may be attributed to the effect, out of respect I think it necessary to adopt the observer stance, and treat others claims with respect.

Tony

Hi Heyoka,

I was made aware of this Mandela effect a while ago, and when I found out that there were others with similar experiences, it meant that I was not losing my mind. It explained my weird experiences that I had pushed to the back of my mind. I did not make a big deal out of it but I did place a ? Mark to those events.

I agree, a lot of the YouTube videos seem incorrect at least in my version of "reality" but who am I to say it's not for them?

It only takes one true event, and I have a few that I know to the core of my being that certain things have changed.

I like the explanation that Basiago gave, how we are the ones jumping into parallel realities. It's a great video.

Here's another one ...those hot dogs....Oscar Meyer. This one had a song, and it literally forced me to memorize it since I heard it so many times.....but now it's Mayer ?

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
There are bound to be geeks on here like me. So you tell me, what colour are C3PO's legs?

I found this one last night, but pulled the pin on posting it as I was too tired.

Like SilentFeathers, I'll lay claim to a photographic memory, much to the annoyance of those that know me, more than one of which has referred to me as "Sheldon", as I tend to correct others on what they claim are insignificant details. To me it's simply a laugh, and I enjoy bring people's dodgy memories to their attention. Does that qualify me as a geek? Oh well...if the sh*t fits...

C3PO's legs were both gold.

Here is an image of an imposter



Here's the real dude (look closely though).



I have no memory of a silver leg, but given his innumerable repair jobs, that may have been the case at some stage (He actually received the gold plating during the early stages of the Clone Wars... checked it out on Wookiepedia ). In many images, the silver leg swaps from left to right, so who's to know. It appears that there may be no hard and fast rule here, so once again, I'll simply let it be.

After I go through the movies for the umpteenth time that is!

How's that for geekdom?

Tony.

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
The world is in such a mess I think a large reason many are jumping in to this "Mandela" craze head first is that deep down in their subconscious and inner being they want things to change so bad from the sad state of affairs many things are in now that they are willing to believe about anything....

G'day SilentFeathers,

More than just an element of truth there.

When we feel that there is something awry, we are very quick to search for an extrinsic phenomenon to blame it on, and painfully slow to pay attention to inner workings that require our greater attention. This is where something like the Mandela Effect can serve as little more than a distraction when we allow it to overtake us. I do not wish to detract from its possible validity, but rather suggest that the reins need to be held tight.

Thanks for the post,

Tony.

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by skyflower (here)
Here's another one ...those hot dogs....Oscar Meyer. This one had a song, and it literally forced me to memorize it since I heard it so many times.....but now it's Mayer ?

G'day skyflower,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8

You memorised that song?...

My only explanation is that perhaps for years you remembered a tune, but tunes do not have subtitles when the jingle is running in our mind. You may have assigned an incorrect spelling to the brand yourself.

How does that sound?

Tony

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
The world is in such a mess I think a large reason many are jumping in to this "Mandela" craze head first is that deep down in their subconscious and inner being they want things to change so bad from the sad state of affairs many things are in now that they are willing to believe about anything....

G'day SilentFeathers,

More than just an element of truth there.

When we feel that there is something awry, we are very quick to search for an extrinsic phenomena to blame it on, and painfully slow to pay attention to inner workings that require our greater attention. This is where something like the Mandela Effect can serve as little more than a distraction when we allow it to overtake us. I do not wish to detract from its possible validity, but rather suggest that the reins need to be held tight.

Thanks for the post,

Tony.

Thanks brother, this is an important thread IMO.....(remember the Drake fiasco?)

It's things like this that severely distract us from the real time things that are more important. Not to say that this Mandela type of thing couldn't happen, but, there are some major things happening right now in the world that we should be more aware of....

Even if this Mandela thing was real, it really doesn't change all that much when it comes to our everyday survival and routine.....unless you let it

[skyflower]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by skyflower (here)
Here's another one ...those hot dogs....Oscar Meyer. This one had a song, and it literally forced me to memorize it since I heard it so many times.....but now it's Mayer ?

G'day skyflower,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8

You memorised that song?...

My only explanation is that perhaps for years you remembered a tune, but tunes do not have subtitles when the jingle is running in our mind. You may have assigned an incorrect spelling to the brand yourself.

How does that sound?

Tony

LOL No Heyoka ...that was before I was born... I meant the other song...." My Bologna has a first name , and it's O-s-c-a-r, My Bologna has a second name and it's M-e-y-e-r......"
I guess I should have said the Bologna song. Lol. I can't blame it for lack of subtitles or memory lapse...that's how I knew this song. mEyer.

Btw, I think this whole thing is fun. It doesn't distract me from important issues.
Most of the time it just validates how malleable Our reality is in more ways than one. Oh and it helps me stay cool when things I distinctly remember throwing away show up like I never did.

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by skyflower (here)
LOL No Heyoka ...that was before I was born...

Oh Dear!...It wasn't before I was born

Posted by skyflower (here)
I meant the other song...." My Bologna has a first name , and it's O-s-c-a-r, My Bologna has a second name and it's M-e-y-e-r......" I guess I should have said the Bologna song.

Then you'd be referring to this one...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rmPRHJd3uHI

I think I preferred the first one. Marvelous that we managed to clear that one up youngster.

Posted by skyflower (here)
Btw, I think this whole thing is fun.

Now that's the spirit!