Fruitarianism/Breatharianism/Initiation into Higher consciousness (NOT FOR THE WEAK!)

[bashi]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
Those who know will know what I am talking about. Each to their own belief system. If you were to understand you would have understood already...seems like you have realised more than me.lol There was a man in a city whose water got poisoned. This man never drank the water and could see how different everyone was while drinking poisoned water. Everyone else thought he was crazy - only cos he did not drink the poisoned water and did not change like the others. No matter what he said they could not understand him....they just thought he was crazy! C'est la vie! I don't have the time or the inclination...find someone at your level to play with...maybe a master. lol

I see now that you really don`t now what you are talking about

[bashi]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Many animals would not have the chance of life it was not for the meat industry, lets face it, farmers would not breed animals if they could not sell them. It may well be that the animal evolves to a higher life form after death.

LOL: The meat industry as a tool for animal ascension!!!
Grey, can`t you do better than that?


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[samvado]

Posted by HORIZONS (here)
I was just wondering about the statement "you are what you eat" and if there is any truth to this then if we eat nothing we may have arrived at a place of nothingness.

yeah, why be a hero when you can be a zero ..

[realitycorrodes]

In my experience, I have noticed there are attachments (mostly negative in my view) to this hologram that come in the form of lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment. These are five of the main ones. I noticed that that there are five flavours. I suscpected/noticed that each flavour is associated with one kind of attachment. Direct experience with transitioning to breatharianism demonstrated to me that these negative traits (lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment) disappeared without any effort of will - this is my experience...it may not be true for anyone else. This has led me to conclude that the spirit contained in the human animal is trapped in the body mainly due to its attachment to food and that all the negative vibrations of this dimension (lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment) comes in via the humans animal's attachement to food - this lowers the vibration of the spirit which keeps it tied down to this (hell realm) hologram. This is my own direct experience. But maybe this will expose me to direct insults about my personal worth in regard to being knowledgable?! What was that quote someone had as a signature around here. "All it takes for evil to take over is for good people to sit around and do nothing!" Perhaps those good people are sitting around doing nothing cos they are the chosen ones waiting to be saved? The master said so...right!lol

[Solphilos]

In my experience, food has absolutely nothing to do with obtaining higher consciousness, nor does food "trap" us in these bodies of ours. Yes, I do believe that it is important to be aware of what goes into the body, but should you choose to eat unhealthily, this does not have to effect your consciousness. Eating is just one of the rules of the game, an necessary condition to be here. Of course, I do believe that this need can be transcended, but necessary? Hell no.
When I first began reaching higher levels of consciousness, it became apparent to me that I did not have to depend on food. I went for a time without eating, and fasting certainly enhanced my abilities to transcend the body, but when I wanted to eat something tasty I would do so with no ill effect upon my level of awareness.

If one is able to reach a higher level of being by not eating, then good for them; it is but another path as valid as any other. Personally, I did the opposite and achieved the ability to not eat by reaching those higher levels. But, I am here to experience, I enjoy the experience, and make full use of it and allow myself to enjoy all that pleasures that these 3 dimensions have to offer.

[HORIZONS]

Posted by Solphilos (here)
In my experience, food has absolutely nothing to do with obtaining higher consciousness, nor does food "trap" us in these bodies of ours. Yes, I do believe that it is important to be aware of what goes into the body, but should you choose to eat unhealthily, this does not have to effect your consciousness. Eating is just one of the rules of the game, an necessary condition to be here. Of course, I do believe that this need can be transcended, but necessary? Hell no.
When I first began reaching higher levels of consciousness, it became apparent to me that I did not have to depend on food. I went for a time without eating, and fasting certainly enhanced my abilities to transcend the body, but when I wanted to eat something tasty I would do so with no ill effect upon my level of awareness.

If one is able to reach a higher level of being by not eating, then good for them; it is but another path as valid as any other. Personally, I did the opposite and achieved the ability to not eat by reaching those higher levels. But, I am here to experience, I enjoy the experience, and make full use of it and allow myself to enjoy all that pleasures that these 3 dimensions have to offer.

Good points to ponder!!!

[bashi]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
In my experience, I have noticed there are attachments (mostly negative in my view) to this hologram that come in the form of lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment. These are five of the main ones. I noticed that that there are five flavours. I suscpected/noticed that each flavour is associated with one kind of attachment. Direct experience with transitioning to breatharianism demonstrated to me that these negative traits (lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment) disappeared without any effort of will - this is my experience...it may not be true for anyone else. This has led me to conclude that the spirit contained in the human animal is trapped in the body mainly due to its attachment to food and that all the negative vibrations of this dimension (lust, greed, pride, ego, and attachment) comes in via the humans animal's attachement to food - this lowers the vibration of the spirit which keeps it tied down to this (hell realm) hologram. This is my own direct experience. But maybe this will expose me to direct insults about my personal worth in regard to being knowledgable?!

I am happy that i was WRONG! You DO now know what you are talking about.
Greetings from the master..

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[realitycorrodes]

It is no coincidence that when people obtain "higher consciousness" it becomes apparent to them that they do not need to depend on food - I suggest this is because it is the natural progression of the spirit. This knowing that they don't need food is the spirit communicating with the "little I" in the form of intuition - trying to communicate what is now required for further spiritual progression. It is a two way street to higher consciousness - people can precipitate their spiritual progress by choosing not to eat which will open up higher consciousness or they can go more slowly and find out for themselves that they should not eat in order to further their spiritual progress. Many like to pretend it is not necessary, but there are many tricks being played along the path. There is it seems some energy that wishes to betray the spirit and keep it bound in lower vibration for as long as possible. Such deception I have been told comes from the mind of the human animal itself. Also there are many levels of spirituality - what most people consider spiritual is low level astral and mind which is tainted by "egotistical beliefs" that strangely align themselves with this denser reality - the spirit needs to be careful - trust no-one except its own direct experience - especially be careful of masters! But the only thing I know is that I know nothing!

[Solphilos]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
It is no coincidence that when people obtain "higher consciousness" it becomes apparent to them that they do not need to depend on food - I suggest this is because it is the natural progression of the spirit. This knowing that they don't need food is the spirit communicating with the "little I" in the form of intuition - trying to communicate what is now required for further spiritual progression. It is a two way street to higher consciousness - people can precipitate their spiritual progress by choosing not to eat which will open up higher consciousness or they can go more slowly and find out for themselves that they should not eat in order to further their spiritual progress. Many like to pretend it is not necessary, but there are many tricks being played along the path. There is it seems some energy that wishes to betray the spirit and keep it bound in lower vibration for as long as possible. Such deception I have been told comes from the mind of the human animal itself. Also there are many levels of spirituality - what most people consider spiritual is low level astral and mind which is tainted by "egotistical beliefs" that strangely align themselves with this denser reality - the spirit needs to be careful - trust no-one except its own direct experience - especially be careful of masters! But the only thing I know is that I know nothing!

Deceptions are quite common when one is seeking, yes, be very wary of them, especially if they claim that one must do something physically in order to advance.

the spirit needs to be careful - trust no-one except its own direct experience - especially be careful of masters! But the only thing I know is that I know nothing!

Are you sure that this is the truth? This final sentence is a complete contradiction to every post you have made. You say you know nothing, yet you seem to be implying that not-eating is absolutely necessary for spiritual advancement, and that those who think otherwise are being deceived. Excuse me if I read this wrong.
In actuality, there is none more deceived than he who believes that he is incapable of deception, and thinks that he has found the one path to "enlightenment", while the path others follow is inferior.

Again, choosing to not eat is just fine if one is truly capable, but by all means it is not necessary.

[realitycorrodes]

There is no right and wrong in my book from a particular perspective. I write in a paradoxical way to somehow communicate this paradox. Everything I have written is mere suggestions from my own experience. As I mentioned above "each to their own belief system". At a particular level for nothing really matters for me - I am merely exchanging thoughts at the level of illusion. No dogma required. If people choose to "ASSUME" I have stated categorically that something is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH when it is clear that I have not said such a statement - what can I do? Assumption is the mother of all F***Ups after all! Peace my brothers and sisters, I will bow out gracefully here. It is clear that I am alone with these kind of thoughts. Wishing you well with your comfort group.

[ExHaLaTiON]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
There is no right and wrong in my book from a particular perspective. I write in a paradoxical way to somehow communicate this paradox. Everything I have written is mere suggestions from my own experience. As I mentioned above "each to their own belief system". At a particular level for nothing really matters for me - I am merely exchanging thoughts at the level of illusion. No dogma required. If people choose to "ASSUME" I have stated categorically that something is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH when it is clear that I have not said such a statement - what can I do? Assumption is the mother of all F***Ups after all! Peace my brothers and sisters, I will bow out gracefully here. It is clear that I am alone with these kind of thoughts. Wishing you well with your comfort group.

I agree with you.

The ruling elite's deception against humanity mainly exists at a fundamental level, affecting the aspects of reality that we erroneously assume are basic truths.

Your thoughts are that which you make exists, not just that which the masses are aware of.

Stay vigilant my friend , your input is always appreciated.

Great thread!

[HORIZONS]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
There is no right and wrong in my book from a particular perspective. I write in a paradoxical way to somehow communicate this paradox. Everything I have written is mere suggestions from my own experience. As I mentioned above "each to their own belief system". At a particular level for nothing really matters for me - I am merely exchanging thoughts at the level of illusion. No dogma required. If people choose to "ASSUME" I have stated categorically that something is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH when it is clear that I have not said such a statement - what can I do? Assumption is the mother of all F***Ups after all! Peace my brothers and sisters, I will bow out gracefully here. It is clear that I am alone with these kind of thoughts. Wishing you well with your comfort group.

There is no reason for you to bow out at all - its all good, communication on a forum like this is difficult sometimes. I totally agree with your statement "Also there are many levels of spirituality - what most people consider spiritual is low level astral and mind which is tainted by "egotistical beliefs" that strangely align themselves with this denser reality - the spirit needs to be careful - trust no-one except its own direct experience - especially be careful of masters! But the only thing I know is that I know nothing!" - so keep it coming, we must keep the dialog going. ~Peace~

[Ventana]

Posted by Solphilos (here)
In my experience, food has absolutely nothing to do with obtaining higher consciousness, nor does food "trap" us in these bodies of ours. Yes, I do believe that it is important to be aware of what goes into the body, but should you choose to eat unhealthily, this does not have to effect your consciousness. Eating is just one of the rules of the game, an necessary condition to be here. Of course, I do believe that this need can be transcended, but necessary? Hell no.
When I first began reaching higher levels of consciousness, it became apparent to me that I did not have to depend on food. I went for a time without eating, and fasting certainly enhanced my abilities to transcend the body, but when I wanted to eat something tasty I would do so with no ill effect upon my level of awareness.

If one is able to reach a higher level of being by not eating, then good for them; it is but another path as valid as any other. Personally, I did the opposite and achieved the ability to not eat by reaching those higher levels. But, I am here to experience, I enjoy the experience, and make full use of it and allow myself to enjoy all that pleasures that these 3 dimensions have to offer.

Well said. Fasting now and then is probably not a bad thing but as long as our bodies require food we need to eat and how and what we choose to eat is a matter of personal conscience and preference. I just think it's dangerous to just decide to stop eating altogether. I also think that eating just fruits or just vegetables or just one type of food is not a good idea either. The comment a few posts back about eating from all the colors of the rainbow is good advice, IMHO

[greybeard]

For the enlightened ones eating or not eating isn't an issue, very often they have to be reminded to look after the body.
They are fully aware that they are not the body.

They advise that all belief systems, without exception, must go, also the thought that I am the doer.
As long as there is a "me" choosing to eat or not eat this or that then consciousness is not fully evolved.

Eckhart Tolle joked about having to wear a baseball cap to go into Starbucks for coffee as a "disguise".
People kept saying to him "You wrote a spiritual book you shouldn't be drinking coffee"
Coffee is supposed to lower the consciousness -- so many stories.
Nasargadatta smoked cigarettes -- shock horror.
My one time partner and I spent a fortune on raw food and diet plans and the author of the diets maintained it was a way to enlightenment, he also recommended the book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. We both stuck to the diet for many many month and it was enjoyable but raising consciousness -- who knows.
What ever works but I wouldn't take anything too seriously or an attachment is formed ie . Me and my habit/belief.

Regards
Chris

[Solphilos]

Posted by greybeard (here)
What ever works but I wouldn't take anything too seriously or an attachment is formed ie . Me and my habit/belief.

Regards
Chris

I agree.
And...if coffee lowers consciousness, then I should be in a coma!

[K626]

Coffee is good. I won't have a word said against it.

[kriya]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Nasargadatta smoked cigarettes -- shock horror.

So did Ramakrishna, it was the only thing that brought him back down from cosmic consciousness.

Love,

Kriya

[annemirri]

Posted by Solphilos (here)
I agree.
And...if coffee lowers consciousness, then I should be in a coma!

I could be without eating anything, but not without my coffee ( and croissant.)

All my friends who have very high IQ are coffee addicts.

and surprisingly wine has the most pronounced effect in boosting people's memory,
followed by chocolate and tea .

a.

[Ventana]

Posted by K626 (here)
Coffee is good. I won't have a word said against it.

lol. I agree. growing up, my Irish mother always (and still does--she's in her 80's) drank strong black tea and that's what she gave us when we were sick (I also asked for chocolate ice cream.
I think a good cup of strong, hot tea is extremely therapeutic and, as for coffee, I rely on it to get me started in the morning... I was allowed to drink a cup or two even when I was pregnant and my son was born quite healthy. What most people need to do imho is avoid endless junk food and empty calories. Eat a good balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruits, nuts, veggies/salads, whole grains, etc. Know the source of the food whenever possible, keep it organic when possible. Learning how to cook helps because then you can really control what goes into your meals. Try different cuisines when you eat out. I live in an area where Mexican food is ubiquitous and I love it--it has become my comfort food and if prepared correctly is very healthy as there is an emphasis on flavor and texture. I love some nice fajitas with lots of pica de gallo--tomatoes, onions, jalapenos or serranos, cilantro, fresh lime juice and grilled peppers and onions. I've also come to love Indian food. And I love Louisiana cooking, too. Long live cayenne! And every time I sit down to a good meal I am thankful for the blessing of having some food to eat. I never take it for granted. Give to your local food banks, folks. As we discuss whether to eat or not to eat we must remember those among us who don't have enough to eat...Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a lecture but I honestly am grateful that I do have enough to eat. My mother lived through WWII in Liverpool and remembers rationing and my father grew up during the depression in West Texas, one of 11 kids so I know they know what not having enough is like. My mother always cooked every single day, we didn't have fast food and we played outside all the time so we weren't fat kids. Childhood obesity is epidemic because people stuff their kids with endless fast food and forbid them from playing outside
like we did when I grew up. Cook healthy food for your kids and keep 'em active in sports or some other activity. I kept my son in soccer, basketball and football (not all at the same time!) and I cooked most of his meals at home and insisted that he at least try new foods and he is not at all fat. Part of that is genetics but if your kids eat Mickey D's all the time and sit around watching TV and playing video games they are going to get fat. They need to be outside on a bike or running around in the park or practicing basketball or soccer (football, I know). It's not rocket science.

[annemirri]

Posted by Ventana (here)
. Try different cuisines when you eat out.

There is that one thing that I have noticed myself being extremely sensitive about,
is eating with others or in the restaurants.

When I was a little child I ate nothing when others were eating,
and when they stopped I started to eat on my own alone at the table.
At school I became extremely nervous eating with others, them staring at my food.
(I got anorexic)

When I got married and had my children I left my husband to eat with the children
and ate alone in another room.

I guess it has something to do with sharing other people's energy through food.

I have never understood people going on a date to eat in a restaurant.
it is different for drinks.

I must really like a person if I am to eat their cooking....or I get a stomach ache.

a.