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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Humanity is obviously bound to transcend itself and empty its self to the caveat emptor

    But listen about my latest 'pancake' theory of spacetime that starts rolling from the time zero of the planet and when it first started spiralling around itself ,
    rolls out like giant multiple spacetime that unfolds to planetary manifold .
    On that timespace pancake we are always walking from Past to Future . Further spiralling from the gravity centre it becomes easier for us to conquer space and time continuum.




    The bell, the pancake , the bubble ..all empty



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    That makes a weird sort of sense to me, Eva.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I'm not going to comment much further on this subject, since as I said, I have no direct connection with Simon as a counseler which I agree disqualifies me to some extent.
    Charm may be a factor, but everyone has a shadow side, no exception, and I've encountered professionals with huge shadows who were quite oblivious to their own need for doing shadow work, who were never challenged because of their high positions.
    (There is nothing more difficult than shadow work, imho, and not enough people at all willing to do it.)
    I do think it sounds like Simon has gotten in over his head with his "counseling" work, and as I've said in previous posts, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone; then again I don't recommend "professional" counseling either--but that's just me.
    But Simon as a whistleblower has shared some good information, which I think has been helpful to many people in helping to put the pieces of various puzzles together, and the process itself has been instructive.
    It's not like anyone has a lot of experience in this realm on either side of the board.
    I think if we don't support people willing to go public and take those kinds of risks, we're going to have much less information to work with, and whistleblowers deserve some credit for their efforts.
    Simon's certainly no Bob Dean; he's obviously still a work in progress, but so are we all.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Whistle blowers would be much more credible if they retract wrong information. And better yet explain why the information was wrong.

    Here is one story from Simon, one too big to gloss over, about 10 to 15 senators being arrested for conspiring an assassination attempt.

    That would be next to impossible to hide.

    When evaluating the value of information from any source, it can be very helpful to look at their track record.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote We are talking about two different topics; you might consider them two different people. Haven't you ever seen someone who behaves in one way in public, and in another way when in private?
    I tend to disagree ( and that's not against your case or cause here ) ,
    also Natalie , comparing Simon who considers himself en ambassador to his native race ( quite like many other 'contactees' ) do to Bob Dean is little naive in my opinion ,
    they're simply two entirely different individuals.
    People idolising either or any personality - I mean ANY personality you can name - tends to end up in sour disillusionment .
    First of all, we are all sentient beings suffering under this elementary circumstances of one God forsaken planet ( that's a metaphorical expression so do not catch me on that wording please ) ,
    suffering makes no one perfect .

    People who are almost free from any suffering and so also errors are extremely rare through out human history.
    Telling each other who needs therapy the most if favourite fad of last few decades as I'm aware of .

    Natalie said : ''Charms may be the factor'' . I would subtract the F . Charms maybe the actor .

    Back to the original idea , the information Simon keeps producing is unfortunately , equally unfiltered and bound to end up in huge cauldron with all the rest-of-the-mess.

    I never doubt authenticity of his experiences - as far as I'm able to confirm - and he entered the Ammach project with hypnotic regressions done by Joane Summerscales about the same year , or year before I met Miles and Joanne in Prague and was interviewed for the Bases series .
    However ... I don't think that Simons 'therapy' was ever concluded , partially because the split the Ammach project suffered and Simon was shot out to conduct interviews which he braved fairly well.

    But what followed, without any sort of scientific or therapeutic supervision was a spree lasting for years now where information is being cajoled and produced 'on a go' ,
    embracing 'everyones' theories and terms .

    None of the story terms Simon is using are original , even 'Mantids' , not to speak of all the other ET and metaphysical connections.

    I would never blame Simon, subtle being as he is for getting lost to the crowd and the human game because its overpowering one and we all get lost, one way or another .

    It's sometimes , very hard to take the time for your personal journey .. instead just counselling others .

    But ultimately , being entirely honest with yourself , your terms , is a matter of character and personal integrity .

    He maybe giving himself a lot .. without looking back . But the exactness and quality of what is being shared remains questionable , to me.


    In more than one ways , this helps him 'alive' I can imagine, alive and useful which is a good think.

    I've talked to close friend only days ago about how strange - paradoxical - the ET situation played on my human life ,
    unlike Simon, I have almost zero sentient communication for very long now,

    that's excluding some personal arguments here or the 'daily chit chat'.

    In fact I became completely isolated where my knowledge goes simply because the society 'rejected me' .

    It's not that I want to complain . I've complained enough I'm becoming calmer about catapulting myself ..
    because I can't tolerate the average human IQs anymore, it just hurts. Much of the situation on my side was caused by NOT willing to create a mess and human 'cover-up' game where I'd be teaching some kind of hybrid psycho-spiritual theory about ETs contacting us
    and my unwillingness to give up on there being scientific data.

    My spiritual friends don't like that . Scientists don't like the other . The rest of 'secular folks' get goose bumps and belly laugh on mentioning ET
    and most that is known in EU on ET nowadays continues to be propagated by David Icke and other large sects .


    I read news. Sort puzzles . And telling my friends that unless there's someone who would talk to us with sense and decency and SANSE the mockery and mob of internet gurus convinced of knowing everything ,
    advising me therapies for experiencers because they had one , while they're not able to connect to pretty anything outside their normative boxes ...

    I am soon also, calling it a quit . The mockery and the hurts were enough , in long term to take down even an elephant .
    No matter of explanation helped, ever.

    It was the 'political truth' and 'power of masses' that won in each case , over everybody . And you know, I was born to dark times in country who later threw down the communists .
    And here they're again, just everywhere, the masses that scared me to death. The communities, the joint opinions . The average truths . Those who want to belong .

    Am also social. I just am not a groupie like that.




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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I am deeply sorry for all involved. There are so many forces at work right now, and by observing it may put a light on the true forces that are acting behind the scene of our precious planet, these forces may use everyone and everything that may complement their agenda. Perheps it's time more than ever to have great love in our heart to our humnity and deattach from the illusions, from the energies, from the 'personality' that we were granted with, from our 'stories' that we were conditioned with - drop our invisible dependence on them. Here is a well written article by Laura Leon - from her website - Sovereign kees.

    False light and traps of agreement -

    There is much healthy discussion taking place indetermining the ways that manipulating forces have invaded, hijacked and concealed Light Truth. For those on such a quest in their awakening state, a far more sophisticated level of ensnaring is surfacing on account of this power; a power occurring within the Universal Wave, which is inside us as much as throughout the Universe

    Now more than ever we are navigating through a mine field of not only misinformation, disinformation and spiritual interference, but also a whole new level of seduction that seeks to blind and bind humanity deeper within the earthen prison matrix — especially against those waking up and unlocking Keys. The aim of the ‘game’ is to snare humanity utilizing powerful truths

    If one is connected to their True Source, through one’s inner kingdom, and not via external sources, then they will not seek to gravitate to anything parasitic with attaching hosting forces, designed to lead one astray.Their means of snaring are conducted with enough pearls of truth to seduce ones soul (not Spirit as the Spirit cannot be lied or seduced to), to not only be harvested, but also invaded, possessed and bound unto all manner of trappings. Such effects will only lead one away from “SELF”, which is derailing from the true path. Whatever one calls these forces is irrelevant, for there are many, and so many in fact that most would find it difficult to fathom.

    These ‘tools’ that were taught to humanity via different mediums through rituals, esoteric arts, channeling etc, were just ways in which all these ‘beings’, ‘entities’, dark matter could invade and harvest under the guise of spirituality and truth seeking

    Whatever gifts and knowledge bestowed was to serve their hidden objectives of our enslavement to ‘them’. The purpose was to fool the soul so that people would not connect to their ‘Spirit Being’ or ‘Universal Frequency Template’. In so doing, they were and have been able to hijack humanity and keep them away from the Center of their BEING wherein everyone bears the Vital and ability to access everything without obstruction, corruption,manipulating forces nor astral interference.

    All of the differing tools used are essentially instruments for channeling the many ‘forces’, ‘principalities’, Archontic, reptilian, alien/parasitic hierarchies etc. This information is not from the True Source in my experience, but rather apart of the programming matrix, which is to keep everyone deeply locked inside ‘their’ elaborate prison farm, that is not just the world we live in, but the most powerful prison being layered upon minds and heart. In this way we are truly trapped if we continue to believe the holographic prison matrix and accept the version of reality that they are and have been controlling the masses to believe, see, smell, hear and live

    They had to find ways to keep people trapped whom are waking up. They knew they could not stop the Universal energies in consegrity when such occurs, so what better way to keep the prisoners breaking out than to give them ‘spiritual esoteric gifts’, tools and instruments so as to keep them ensnared with even more hijacking attachments

    that would serve to keep them from the very truth they are seeking. This is the
    ouroboros, where upon no matter how much you seek, you will never truly get anywhere except more laden with attachments and new agreements of entrapment, so as to never escape the snake that is feasting upon you. The information will lure you further into deeper centers where hosting and invasion are a set up waiting

    The seduction is in how the information makes a person ‘FEEL’, which is the key to how they operate. One must ‘know thyself’ in order to discern the difference between the True Universal Source and the false light and manipulations of the invaders, hijackers and overseers. There are many drug-like affects they can induce upon us with everything, and language is one of the greatest spells cast to keep us rigged inside the web, even and especially when we are truth seeking. These inducements/attachments will keep one digging further and further inside the snake while simultaneously separating the seeker from ‘Self’, therefore the ‘True Source’. This of course is designed to keep us away from the very thing ‘they’ fear the most which is Yourself = the Kingdom of the Universes. When many of these magical things are ‘created’ to be a conduit of information transference under the guise of helping mankind connect to ‘Spirit’, then not only is the information corrupted, but it is corrupted because it comes with quantum levels of attachments, agreements and invaders, whose sources operate under ulterior hidden agendas. Such have nothing to do with helping us to become emancipated out of this harvesting prison recycling hell.

    I don’t know if you have seen archontic parasites which are one example of the hordes at work here, but they love hosting people by making people feel a false sense of ‘god’, protection, guidance, psychic gifts, downloads,spiritism, blessings, euphoric holy spirit feelings, feelings of love, of things we ourselves ‘feed’ from (list is too long),though in reality they are nothing but attachments that are only interested in vampirizing us eternally inside the great Harvester Ouroboros. The more we look outside ourselves and give into others realities, the more lost we will be until finally our Spirits will be so disconnected in that division of Being, that the soul will no longer have True Source discernment because it simply will not recognize ‘itself’ in order to shatter the matrix of captivity.

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/299209968...h6X#fullscreen

    Also -

    This panel discussion on 'Hyperdimensional interference and keys to discernement' was already posted here on Avalon, but it is worth watching as very few these days are able to deliver such accurate and perceptive presentation of the transdimensional aspect that is interfering in our reality and what's really going on. Participants are - researchers Eve Lorgen, James Bartley, Laura Leon, Carissa Conti, Bernhard Butler and Tom Montalk

    Very worth taking the time and listening -



    Blessings and love to all ~

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    It would be great if the alternative community was organized enough to keep track records of such information and disinformation.
    As it is, it's impossible for one person to keep up with--it would take a concerted team effort.
    In my own case, certain bits of info will just leap out at me and give my intuition a jolt, so that I know I need to pay attention to that bit.
    Those are the "gems" worth pursuing...I just don't have time for much of the rest--literally.
    We've heard many times about how some disinformation is usually seeded in with the valid info, that being the controllers terms apparently, for valid leaked info coming out.
    Simon's sources may be no different, though he might not agree with that.

    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    Whistle blowers would be much more credible if they retract wrong information. And better yet explain why the information was wrong.

    Here is one story from Simon, one too big to gloss over, about 10 to 15 senators being arrested for conspiring an assassination attempt.

    That would be next to impossible to hide.

    When evaluating the value of information from any source, it can be very helpful to look at their track record.



    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    also Natalie , comparing Simon who considers himself en ambassador to his native race ( quite like many other 'contactees' ) do to Bob Dean is little naive in my opinion ,
    they're simply two entirely different individuals.
    People idolising either or any personality - I mean ANY personality you can name - tends to end up in sour disillusionment .
    First of all, we are all sentient beings suffering under this elementary circumstances of one God forsaken planet ( that's a metaphorical expression so do not catch me on that wording please ) ,
    suffering makes no one perfect .
    Hi Eva,
    The comparison I made between Simon and Bob Dean was only in order to underscore the difference in the amount of time that each has been functioning as a whistleblower, and the different ways in which each got their "education" so to speak.
    Simon's childhood Contact in my view was a kind of interference in his natural growing up process, and everything seemed to follow from there in a similar fashion--very uncomfortable for Simon, I would think, but maybe that's just me.
    I think Dean was allowed a more slow and steady, more grounding maturation process, rubbing elbows with other whistleblowers along the way, as well as other military and intelligence types who shared experiences with him, and other contactees, as well.
    Though I'm sure he had one, I don't think he had as difficult or (perhaps) lonely a struggle, or at least not one that impacted him at such a young and vulnerable age.
    (He says he's had Contact experiences as well, and I think he considers himself a bit of an emissary for higher dimensional ETs, though that's beside my point, which is ...simply that he was probably more supported along the way by peers and had a chance to grow more naturally into the role of whistleblower. )
    Being idolized has probably been a problem for them both, but in different ways I would imagine.
    I think Simon attracts a less mature kind of individual who really doesn't know much but is drawn in by Simon's high profile, and that can be very ungrounding for all concerned.
    Whereas I imagine Bob's fans are a bit more seasoned and not so flighty; but he obviously values his privacy highly, so I think he was pretty gracious about sharing as much as he has.

    But good points all around!
    And thanks to Limor for a lovely and balancing contribution to the discussion.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    l
    But good points all around!
    And thanks to Limor for a lovely and balancing contribution to the discussion.
    "Re: Our experience with Simon Parkes

    " I am deeply sorry for all involved. There are so many forces at work right now, and by observing it may put a light on the true forces that are acting behind the scene of our precious planet, " How very true Limor, It has taken me until my sixtieth year, to understand SOME of the scenes played out before me, close to hand, as well as World-wide.... I believe ' Natural Order [ or Natural Laws ] will prevail, but so many questions ,,, ! ! "

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    Kerry Cassidy praises Simon as a "stellar witness" at about 5minutes, 45 seconds into this talk:
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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    maybe the original Simon has been replaced or reprogrammed....
    Exactly what I have been thinking while reading previous replies.

    It´s a known fact that many people that starts "annoying" the "controllers"for some reason... if not killed by "accidents", "suicide", murder or "hearth atacks"...are replaced by "clones".

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I doubt very much that Simon has been replaced by a clone.
    In his recent interview with Miles Johnston, he seemed very much himself.


    Simon has said he is being protected and there seems to be evidence that supports that, though is being attacked at the same time.
    And that would make sense if the elite are at war with each other.
    Ines wrote:
    Quote still amazed how many people called themselves "spiritual" without being "empowered" and still live by "paradigms" of waiting to find a Mesiah, some one to "follow".
    I think that the Aquarian Age is going to be much more about the individual, and less about groups.
    The Piscean Age was characterized by gurus and spiritual leaders with vast numbers of followers, and this is being carried over to the new paradigm somewhat since change comes slowly, but it is going to be manifesting in a much different way eventually, I think.
    And as we are reportedly moving more into the 4th dimension which is inhabited by all kinds of parasitical entities and poseurs, we can expect lots of disillusioned and misinformed people waking up to the fact that they are going to have to learn to be responsible for themselves.
    The futility of trying to turn whistleblowers into gurus and spiritual leaders appears to be one of the more frustrating manifestations of this development in our evolution.
    I hope that the difference will soon be obvious to everyone, because that misapprehension is evidently causing a lot of problems on a lot of different levels for all involved.
    IMHO.


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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    maybe the original Simon has been replaced or reprogrammed....
    Exactly what I have been thinking while reading previous replies.

    It´s a known fact that many people that starts "annoying" the "controllers"for some reason... if not killed by "accidents", "suicide", murder or "hearth atacks"...are replaced by "clones".
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Where is the proof that he has said any thing like:
    Quote Something like, "yes yes, you are part reptile and under surveillance by TPTB. Plus, you're mind controlled a little. Now go tell others how special and oppressed you are and come back next month for another installment of my BS. That is, if you can reach me, I'm very busy talking to astronauts and world leaders like Putin."
    That is from hearsay reports, and as has been noted several times already, Simon has obviously been under attack for a long time, with lots of people wanting to discredit him for lots of reasons.
    I'm not saying that he is the best source of information out there, but a lot of the information he has shared has certainly been several cuts above that being put out by David Wilcock, Corey Goode, Ruiner, etc.
    I note that Biff's join date for Avalon is April 9th, 2016.
    Simon has been a subject of discussion since September 2011, as well as being an active member himself for a good portion of that time.
    The other people who have been attacking him here are also newcomers to this forum to a large extent, with little to commend them to us as experienced in this area.
    Not all of the long term members of Avalon are big fans of Simon either, but we have at least given him a fair shake, and in some cases, have at least given first hand accounts of interactions.
    That from long time members actually counts for something.
    When Avalon begins being a platform for any and all who care to post anything they feel like here with nothing to back up their claims or to commend them as someone who is actually knowledgeable, then I think this forum won't be much different from many of the other forums online, and that would be a great loss to the alternative community.
    It's not to do with Simon, it's to do with how fairly information is being assessed and whether or not people are being held accountable for what they post here.
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    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    I tried to get an appointment with Simon just to see if he could help with my targeting somehow. I was skeptical he could help but tried it anyway. He put off the appointments for months and eventually made a threatening remark at me and removed me from skype. It was because I had posted on avalon I didn't buy his whole shpeil of evil extraterrestrials being here to "piggyback on our ascension". Such a ridiculous premise to me.

    Anyway, I could sense a bit of dark energies from him. It's like when he gets angry he wants whoever he gets angry with to be punished... He threatened me about posting my opposition to his stories. Basically I believe Simon is an unwitting(or maybe even witting) disinformant. When he says things like black people are harder to mind control for ETs I can safely say the areas I don't know as much in he's probably serving whoppers there too...

    There are extensive disinformation programs aimed at the project avalon demographic. I think Simon is part of such if i had to take an educated guess...



    I'm responding to this in context to your words Omni ( thanks for posting ) , not as direct response but I think the following should be said by me .

    Although I suspect there maybe 2 or 3 people on the forum having 'precise idea' other than general one where it concerns intimate knowledge of various ET types and groups , not more so to it's possibly going to sound more outlandish without quoting lots of links and posts .

    Onawah ( Natalie ) is probably closest to understanding about it but then , I hold my reserves to my opinion because I don't want to be coerced to someones 'human opinion' .

    The ET group Simon hails from and represents , or seem to , among else, are well known for their mind control ability over mankind .
    It's really - really sort of a privilege to have him and makes you ask why would they do this - in fact - or , if Simon decided to blow the whistle of his own , just thinking .

    ( anyone offering me reading materials, please .... i'm full at that moment , full and running over so no thanks, i have my own brain )

    Under every normal circumstances knowing someone have this much power of you and your life , if you come in their way would freak you out completely.

    I'm not saying 'they' ( his ET group, and calling them 'Mantids' is as silly as we can get but never mind, if you care to ask i will answer ) are bad people.
    They're actually highly intelligent , rather unemotional and not really interested in most of the stuff you do and they're not quite happy with being exposed and disturbed either .

    You know the saying ''curiosity kills the cat' . Sometimes, it's even ones own self-curiosity that does .
    Feeding information to others naturally, attracts even more curious people , of course.

    You can start feeling like 'an ambassador' and appointed one very soon if you attract good following .

    Sometimes, the truth itself however ...is the stumbling stone, not 'lies' .


    For Natalie ( and few others who have been around the long Simon Parkes disclosures here ) and think he's central to the understanding of Universe and everything because he represents the 'best of 3 races' ,
    this is only your faith that makes you believe someone else is.

    In truth .. most of us who were in contact with out-of-world powers and beings since childhood and mothered by them , often under strikingly similar family schemes outside , and experienced the true love an advanced species do share ,
    we've been told all kind of subtle things , sweet things .

    If you're intelligent being you can discern between 'love' and 'facts' . If you choose to misuse someones statements towards you
    and proclaim yourself worlds emperor or reincarnation of Jesus Christ because 'advanced ET' made you of the same stuff,
    it means you don't understand them really too well .

    I don't want to go to deep to this to hurt anyones feelings mine inclusive but Omni probably also knows , and many contactee people know what 'being special' really means but almost no one knows about it in human world and less you talk about it, the better for you, in fact .

    Well, back to his ET group and see if there's something to add . I better don't want to now . Maybe later.


    Enough for being from somewhere else than he is .

    So as a matter of solidarity , I really don't feel like to criticise at all . We've had a gang here after us for trying to share something of value in his thread about two years ago , with accusations of 'jealousy and envy' ,
    from people who , I think, don't want to understand about you unless you become somehow very famous and all over the web.
    ( that's not a push to anyone to 'become famous' ) .

    Humans can be quite brute n simple in what their social hierarchy means to them . In fact , it's the same thing they usually love and hate so much.
    You either 'so much' love the church or end up 'hating' the church and everything else.

    Human emotions ..are known for being extreme . I would not blame brains or evil minds for all we witness is happening more than your hormonal fluctuations.

    The alpha-male of the predator type grew up on centuries of feeding himself all from mammoths to beef .
    See few centuries of beef feeding in the US and you're all head taller and twice bigger than average Asian .

    The first Vietnamese people who came to Europe seeking job were all still very tiny people . Mum had one colleague in the clinic from Vietnam and he was petit . You'd say starved too compared to the rest of folks.
    Mum asked him what does he eat and he said the only thing the Vietnamese community could eat after coming to Europe was rice and soya sauce .

    If you want to understand yourself better you would have to go to the base of yourself again really and check your abilities and instincts and intuitions from there .


    If you want to understand about other type of space intelligence , you have to stay logical, of all things.

    The idea that 'contactees' are somehow irrational, spiritually oriented and metaphysical thinkers without footing in reality is grossly misguiding .
    Among various types of species, races, space intelligences , the only way we can understand each other is through positive intent and logical processing .

    This all needs more than average overview , going beyond the human paradigm. Of course you can't SEE what is happening in someone elses brain.

    You can't see so you read words and process them as readable or worse and think in terms that look familiar but going beyond,
    you need to KNOW what the point is .. then only the communication becomes meaningful to both sides.

    ET contact vs human communication is really not an easy subject because human language can be used both very primitive ways and very sophisticated ways and using primitive language with ETs won't help.


    I'm now balancing myself somewhere on the edge of possibilities where I feel more like back to myself .. and wonder what will be at all and what may I add .. to stay ethical and understandable and show the meaning of things ...


    oh well



    As Araucaria suggested earlier .... when the pile of misunderstanding grows too tall with respect to your personal testimony it is sometimes better to call it a quit .
    Because I don't think I've done anything wrong to anyone here and the people i come with are very subtle, kind and loving Beings.

    We are not this emotional either . Human emotion can be a killer . The amount of it you can process in an hour makes me sick for a week , sometimes .
    But .. being kind and loving , we are .. and it does not seem to be a norm in 'your world' anymore . It's just becoming more and more rare and sort of 'virtue'.
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    There may be a few hundred better-known personalities that are speaking the alternative truth on the alternative media, of which only a handful point to the existence of reptilians and their influence on this world. Simon is one. If we dismiss them, like Alex Collier for his false immediate predictions, Simon for his unqualified counselling, and may be Icke for the outages claims and audience’s laughing, then we are left with a world of PTB who are just bankers and human royalties at the top of the pyramid, who are capable of making very long range plans. So very uninteresting and even more unbelievable.

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    Exactly!
    The whistleblower scene is full of holes and imperfections, but it is critical that humankind understands that there is so much more going on than we are being "allowed" to know by the controllers (even those who are letting things leak).
    The little bits of information that leak through are important and help to make us aware of the scope of what is being hidden.
    It's not for the weak or naive as it takes a willingness to let go of victimization and to face your fears and deal with them responsibly yourself, a lot of focus and discernment, as well as a healthy dose of realism to cope with all the ramifications.
    I began the journey mostly hoping to find reassurance that we are being helped from ET/ED allies, but nowadays I've grown much more cognizant of how very much we are going to have to help ourselves.
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    There may be a few hundred better-known personalities that are speaking the alternative truth on the alternative media, of which only a handful point to the existence of reptilians and their influence on this world. Simon is one. If we dismiss them, like Alex Collier for his false immediate predictions, Simon for his unqualified counselling, and may be Icke for the outages claims and audience’s laughing, then we are left with a world of PTB who are just bankers and human royalties at the top of the pyramid, who are capable of making very long range plans. So very uninteresting and even more unbelievable.
    Eva (Agape) wrote:
    Quote For Natalie ( and few others who have been around the long Simon Parkes disclosures here ) and think he's central to the understanding of Universe and everything because he represents the 'best of 3 races' ,
    this is only your faith that makes you believe someone else is.
    Thank you for your long and thoughtful post, Eva.
    I would like to say about the above quote (and perhaps you've missed it in former posts) but I have often questioned why anyone would accept things that Simon says (myself included) because we know very little about the Mantids except that (according to various sources and Simon included) they have been in a very long relationship with the Dracos and have been assisting them in abductions.
    I have never held the opinion that Simon represents the best of the Reptilian, Mantid and Human races, nor have I thought that he's central to our understanding of the Universe, though he has a piece to share.
    But he's been willing to share, and I have thought that was worth investigating.
    It's very important to note that the part of the Reptilian race (Annunaki) that he claims to descend from is not a positively oriented race (there are reportedly Reptilian races which are positively oriented, but the Annunaki are not one of them).
    Simon says he has broken away, but I think it's quite unlikely that he is not still influenced by them, if only unconsciously and unwittingly.
    Simon reports that the Mantids are hoping to "piggy back" with the human race while we attempt to make a leap in our evolution, and that they will become great allies.
    Perhaps, but in the meantime, as I have asked before: how do we know if they are trustworthy, given their alliance with the Dracos and their reported dependence on humanity for a "ride"?
    And if they are allies, what are they doing to assist and if so, why not more actively and openly?
    Simon has said very little about the branch of the human race from the Inner Earth that he is aligned with, though he has said that he is taking the part of the entire human race in the battle for sovereignty.
    (I think the latter may be true, but I also think he is probably being influenced by all three races more than he realizes, which can only put a different slant on his position, whether he realizes it or not.)
    That group of Inner Earth humans may be more technologically advanced than we are, but we know very little about them otherwise (by their own choice), and as to whether Simon represents the best part of them, I have no idea and have never assumed that (though perhaps Simon has; I have avoided contradicting him as that has proven to be generally counterproductive to further discussion).
    All these things I have expressed before on the forum.
    I think people have misunderstood my position because I have tried to be as courteous as possible and neutral when dealing with Simon's info, especially when he was actively taking part with our discussions on Avalon, as I think is due to any whistleblower who shares with us here, and is the best way to draw them out.
    So no offense, Eva, but my personal views don't match the conclusions you have drawn, but I thank you again for your post and your contributions to the conversation.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Exactly!
    The whistleblower scene is full of holes and imperfections, but it is critical that humankind understands that there is so much more going on than we are being "allowed" to know by the controllers (even those who are letting things leak).
    The little bits of information that leak through are important and help to make us aware of the scope of what is being hidden.
    It's not for the weak or naive as it takes a willingness to let go of victimization and to face your fears and deal with them responsibly yourself, a lot of focus and discernment, as well as a healthy dose of realism to cope with all the ramifications.
    I began the journey mostly hoping to find reassurance that we are being helped from ET/ED allies, but nowadays I've grown much more cognizant of how very much we are going to have to help ourselves.
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    There may be a few hundred better-known personalities that are speaking the alternative truth on the alternative media, of which only a handful point to the existence of reptilians and their influence on this world. Simon is one. If we dismiss them, like Alex Collier for his false immediate predictions, Simon for his unqualified counselling, and may be Icke for the outages claims and audience’s laughing, then we are left with a world of PTB who are just bankers and human royalties at the top of the pyramid, who are capable of making very long range plans. So very uninteresting and even more unbelievable.
    Eva (Agape) wrote:
    Quote For Natalie ( and few others who have been around the long Simon Parkes disclosures here ) and think he's central to the understanding of Universe and everything because he represents the 'best of 3 races' ,
    this is only your faith that makes you believe someone else is.
    Thank you for your long and thoughtful post, Eva.
    I would like to say about the above quote (and perhaps you've missed it in former posts) but I have often questioned why anyone would accept things that Simon says (myself included) because we know very little about the Mantids except that (according to various sources and Simon included) they have been in a very long relationship with the Dracos and have been assisting them in abductions.
    I have never held the opinion that Simon represents the best of the Reptilian, Mantid and Human races, nor have I thought that he's central to our understanding of the Universe, though he has a piece to share.
    But he's been willing to share, and I have thought that was worth investigating.
    It's very important to note that the part of the Reptilian race (Annunaki) that he claims to descend from is not a positively oriented race (there are reportedly Reptilian races which are positively oriented, but the Annunaki are not one of them).
    Simon says he has broken away, but I think it's quite unlikely that he is not still influenced by them, if only unconsciously and unwittingly.
    Simon reports that the Mantids are hoping to "piggy back" with the human race while we attempt to make a leap in our evolution, and that they will become great allies.
    Perhaps, but in the meantime, as I have asked before: how do we know if they are trustworthy, given their alliance with the Dracos and their reported dependence on humanity for a "ride"?
    And if they are allies, what are they doing to assist and if so, why not more actively and openly?
    Simon has said very little about the branch of the human race from the Inner Earth that he is aligned with, though he has said that he is taking the part of the entire human race in the battle for sovereignty.
    (I think the latter may be true, but I also think he is probably being influenced by all three races more than he realizes, which can only put a different slant on his position, whether he realizes it or not.)
    That group of Inner Earth humans may be more technologically advanced than we are, but we know very little about them otherwise (by their own choice), and as to whether Simon represents the best part of them, I have no idea and have never assumed that (though perhaps Simon has; I have avoided contradicting him as that has proven to be generally counterproductive to further discussion).
    All these things I have expressed before on the forum.
    I think people have misunderstood my position because I have tried to be as courteous as possible and neutral when dealing with Simon's info, especially when he was actively taking part with our discussions on Avalon, as I think is due to any whistleblower who shares with us here, and is the best way to draw them out.
    So no offense, Eva, but my personal views don't match the conclusions you have drawn, but I thank you again for your post and your contributions to the conversation.
    The fact that there are so few whistleblowers from the government, and the remaining important ones tend to make outlandish claims means the whistleblower phenomenon is very complex. We are not suppose to understand it fully, nor do we need to. We only need to discern for ourselves indvidually. One thing for certain, you analyse the messages youself and not how others, even those you believe belonging to your group think of the messenger.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Simon is quite dyslexic and has had to rely on others to handle many aspects of his email correspondence, Skyping, finances, etc.
    His strengths are in his role as whistleblower and hopefully he will continue to get supported in that role, because I think we need as many whistleblowers with inside information as we can get, even if they aren't always right.
    I think we need to cut them some slack when they are obviously trying very hard to do what they can, which I think is the case with Simon.
    Not to say that they don't need to hear criticism, because I think they do,

    End quote - Dyclexic it sefl , is an indication of ' other dimensional abilities ', I put this to any doubters, " Do you really believe that Simon would tread this very dangerous path. as part of an Alien agenda, when, if having entered polytics, .. he could have made millions ?
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    Simon did actually enter politics as a representative in Parliament for his town of Whitby, but he declined to run again, saying he thought he would be able to do more good via other venues.
    I don't think he made a whole lot of money doing that, in any case.
    (Though he's reported he's had offers from the controllers that would have been profitable had he accepted, which is probably the case for most whistleblowers.)
    I think the difficulties that Simon has (due to his dyslexia) doing what he does also should be taken into account.
    It has to be frustrating for someone with dyslexia to have so much trouble with writing, and to have to rely on others so much to handle the technical end of things.
    And Becky has reported that they are under constant attack via telephone, computer, Skype, etc. which would make it even more difficult.
    (If he's been short-tempered and difficult to connect with, that would probably have something to do with it).
    All in all, I have to agree with Giovanni-- I think Simon would probably do better to get out of the counseling/reading business and try something else that would be of service, but not so fraught with difficulties... if there is such a thing in the field of whistleblowing...
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    Nice to see you back !
    A short, but incisive post.... Alex might on occassions have presented info,proving to be not accurate, however, I agree with you, these ( brave ) people, are in all sincerity, and cannot always cee (( 0r predict )) all time-lines...

    but, as in the 'novel' The road to Nightfall, we surely cannot anticipate WHICH timeline will be played ?

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