Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by aviators (here)
Greetings ...Mel's back on topic with this latest interview. For anyone interested.

[Mod hat on]

No-one is — who has even the smallest degree of knowledge and understanding of basic physics and astrophysics. The Ancient Greeks were doing far better than you are, here, and that was well over 2,000 years ago.

http://khanacademy.org/partner-conte...enes-of-cyrene

Please do NOT post this nonsense here. You mean well, but you're being highly unintelligent about all this, and you're diluting the high quality of the forum. If you want to promote this psy-op (which it is), please do it elsewhere. That's a serious request. Thanks.

[TargeT]

Posted by Sierra (here)
What a load of nonsense. Again.

All you have to do is watch a ship hove into view over the horizon. It only appears at less than 12 miles away. If the planet was flat, then as long as you had a clear line of sight, you could see that ship from the other end of the ocean. Any photos of a ship seen from a few thousand miles away, taken at the seashore? Nope. Few hundred miles? Nope. How about a dinky 20 miles away? Nope.

I live on an Island and can confirm.. on clear days you can watch ships appear, top first.


I can see Puerto Rico as well, but not the shore line (beaches)... it's a bout 80 miles away.


The shore of the island in the background is about 9 miles away.... see the beach? (and that's a slightly elevated photo)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Unbelievable, 9 pages of this. Are we really this confused? Shows how well the psi-ops is doing. Everything is now up for debate. Nothing is accepted as fact.

Maybe there really are pigs that fly, too.

[aviators]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by aviators (here)
Greetings ...Mel's back on topic with this latest interview. For anyone interested.

[Mod hat on]

No-one is — who has even the smallest degree of knowledge and understanding of basic physics and astrophysics. The Ancient Greeks were doing far better than you are, here, and that was well over 2,000 years ago.

http://khanacademy.org/partner-conte...enes-of-cyrene

Please do NOT post this nonsense here. You mean well, but you're being highly unintelligent about all this, and you're diluting the high quality of the forum. If you want to promote this psy-op (which it is), please do it elsewhere. That's a serious request. Thanks.

Let's agree to disagree. Actually there are a lot of intelligent people looking at this.
Some even more intelligent than you or I. I don't have stake in this race. But I do
have a keen interest in all the evidence pointing to someing diferenent than a ball earth. Some of the evidence can be repeated an verified in experiments.
If you don't want to even look at the evidence that understandable.
IMHO Mel and Eric do a fair job expanding on why FE is "so popular" and why
some can't go there. On topic of coarse....

[Sierra]

Posted by aviators (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by aviators (here)
Greetings ...Mel's back on topic with this latest interview. For anyone interested.

[Mod hat on]

No-one is — who has even the smallest degree of knowledge and understanding of basic physics and astrophysics. The Ancient Greeks were doing far better than you are, here, and that was well over 2,000 years ago.

http://khanacademy.org/partner-conte...enes-of-cyrene

Please do NOT post this nonsense here. You mean well, but you're being highly unintelligent about all this, and you're diluting the high quality of the forum. If you want to promote this psy-op (which it is), please do it elsewhere. That's a serious request. Thanks.

Let's agree to disagree. Actually there are a lot of intelligent people looking at this.
Some even more intelligent than you or I. I don't have stake in this race. But I do
have a keen interest in all the evidence pointing to someing diferenent than a ball earth. Some of the evidence can be repeated an verified in experiments.
If you don't want to even look at the evidence that understandable.
IMHO Mel and Eric do a fair job expanding on why FE is "so popular" and why
some can't go there. On topic of coarse....

We don't care about popular, we care about good science.

Listen. The living room you currently occupy, belongs to Bill Ryan. Bill says please do this elsewhere. Bill says this is a serious request.

There are plenty of popular forums that would love to discuss this topic.

Closing thread.

[Bill Ryan]

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[Mod hat on]

We've taken the decision to re-open the thread: the topic (why this notion is so prevalent now) is valid and pertinent.

aviators has been unsubscribed. We're happy to support any and all members in their personal journey (and this is one of our prime purposes); but those who are stuck, not moving, and unwilling or unable to make any personal progress, while impeding the community or (even inadvertently) damaging the forum itself, sometimes have to be left behind.

We wish him all the best, but the notions he is committed to promote are best taken elsewhere.

[Nick Matkin]

Has the re-emergence of this subject got anything to do with the publication of The Flat Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay in late 2014? Looks like a lot of Youtube nonsense started around that time too.

If it's a psyop, by whom and why?

Google Trends shows a huge spike in searches for "flat earth" in Jan 2016 - wonder what that was all about...?

[lake]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
Google Trends shows a huge spike in searches for "flat earth" in Jan 2016 - wonder what that was all about...?

Hopefully its a spike that shows many more humans being of an opening and inquisitive mind?
But I very much doubt that is the correct opinion....sadly.

I looked at the concept of this 'place' being flat (about two years ago if I recall correctly) and as I do, I attempted to comprehend all I could from EVERY source and then make my own decision upon the matter in hand.
It would seem that for a great many centuries the minds of humans believed, or were indoctrinated to believe, that it was flat!

A plane or plain of existence.

Well I came to the conclusion that it is in fact a diversion.
I do not care if this place is round, flat, oblong, triangular, pixelated, inverted, torused, spiralled,or hemorrhoid shaped!

Although if I had to select one.......it would be hemorrhoid as this place is full of ****

just my 5 pence!

[seeker/reader]

So how do these neanderthals explain the magnetic north and south poles which are produced by the molten Fe/Ni outer core (which is a sphere) of the (spherical)Earth, which is rotating about an axis (of a sphere) to produce the magnetic poles, magnetosphere?

And what about the Coriolis effect? If the flat Earth was a flat disc spinning about a central axis at the north pole, all the Coriolis effects would be spinning the same way regardless of the location relative to the equator. Why does it spin in opposite directions in the northern and southern hemispheres? It has to be a sphere for this to happen.

[Hervé]

Interestingly, last night I went to bed with this question: WTF is "wishful thinking"?

What's the difference with "creative imagination"?

Well, "flat earthers" provided an excellent example: they are wishful THINKERS... see?

Their "thinking" is molded around a certain belief that has nothing to do with current reality or actual observable facts. Their thinking is all bent around to provide explanations, reasonings, rationales fostering a non-existent thing BECAUSE they believe it to be true.

Unfortunately, unless they snap out of it, they belong to the Toilet Flushers entranced population...

Accordingly, that got me to wonder if the Flat Earth psy-op is designed to gather together individuals who are somehow stuck in some medieval past life dealing with some Grand Inquisitor... among other possibilities.

[Inmortal719]

I don't really see a point in opening the thread again, there are some really really basics phenomenons that prove the earth is not flat you don't even have to be a scientist..
But yeah I agree that Aviator although repeatedly warned over kept just publishing videos and nonsense researchs about the subject..
This psy-op is probably aimed on knowing how easily can people be influenced into believing something radical and logically wrong....
It's like saying, this is truth because ''Insert some guy's name here'' says so and he's either blowing the whistle or speaking out on project ''secret name here'' he has worked on (whistle blowers are on the raise currently, people love to get to know more about conspiracy theories, no matter how significant it is)..

Posted by TargeT View Post
IMO, FE is a purposefully introduced disinformation campaign to see how gullible/leadable/trickable humans are currently... it was a psychological test to see our current level of "trickability)

Target was right since page 1... at least I had a good laught while reading it all...

[Chester]

I once flew from Curacao to Amsterdam. The flight went due northeast. I then flew to Bangkok That flight was east/southeast. I then flew to LA, California, USA. That flight was almost due east with a slight angle to the north. I then flew to Panama which was southeast. I then finished the trip by flying due east back to Curacao where I started.

Another time I flew from Costa Rica to New Jersey, USA... almost due north. We then flew almost directly over the north pole and landed in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is less than 1,000 miles away from Bangkok.

Each flight except the one from Panama to Curacao had the Flight Tracking system as well where I could follow the progress and direction of the flight on a monitor.

I would love someone to explain to me how all this was possible if the Earth is not a sphere.

[bluestflame]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Interestingly, last night I went to bed with this question: WTF is "wishful thinking"?

What's the difference with "creative imagination"?

Well, "flat earthers" provided an excellent example: they are wishful THINKERS... see?

Their "thinking" is molded around a certain belief that has nothing to do with current reality or actual observable facts. Their thinking is all bent around to provide explanations, reasonings, rationales fostering a non-existent thing BECAUSE they believe it to be true.

Unfortunately, unless they snap out of it, they belong to the Toilet Flushers entranced population...

Accordingly, that got me to wonder if the Flat Earth psy-op is designed to gather together individuals who are somehow stuck in some medieval past life dealing with some Grand Inquisitor... among other possibilities.

like they're being monitored and assessed for suggestibility ? some form of selection process

[Maia Gabrial]

Since we can't really trust NASA (never a straight answer) about things because they're too busy air brushing space photos for the public, or deceiving the public; it makes certain people wonder what the truth is. I know I do. I'm a conspiracy factist and damn proud of it.

Who here has personally seen the earth to know what it really looks like? The astronauts for sure. But they're not talking under grave penalties.
So, the rest of us have to rely on whatever NASA tells us....

Yesterday, I watched a video form NASA on a year's worth of photos of the earth. Even though they zipped through them quickly, there were quite a few same cloud formations on some days.

As to the shape of the earth, NASA's head guy said it was pear shaped.... go figure....

Maybe the complete bottom half of that pear IS Antarctica....

[Hervé]

Posted by bluestflame (here)
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like they're being monitored and assessed for suggestibility ? some form of selection process

One could say yes to both since any observable data is unable to put a dent in their beliefs nor in the thinking derived from said beliefs as if the motto or meme or idea matches with something in their unconscious, triggers it and that unconscious program controls their emotions, thinking and behaviour: "That toilet gotta get flushed, dammit!"

[Maia Gabrial]

My question to everyone is this: How do you know what you're being told about ANYTHING is the truth? You have to admit that we have no way of knowing truth from deception. They can make lies so convincing. Some experts have lied. Data has gotten fudged; or it's so convoluted and confusing that it takes a long time to understand it. But what started it all was that something didn't sound right. That's why the numbers of conspiracy factists are growing.... Intelligent minds go on alert all the time....

Can anyone argue the fact that this IS the age of deception? No doubt, the CIA is definitely part of it. Mockery is one of the ways that silences questioning established thinking.

Bill said think for yourselves. Isn't that what people do when they don't go with the popular way of thinking? Maybe the statistics didn't ring true. Or the sciences failed to explain. Afterall, there are minds out there who can rival the experts.

Things are falling apart in this world of deception. And it's about time. So I'm saying, May truth prevail!

Don't you want to know what's real or not? Or do you want to follow blindly?

[Hervé]

A flat earth wouldn't have any use for latitude: it would be "Equator" everywhere, anyplace, any direction and there wouldn't be any shadow cast by any stick of any length planted perpendicular to ground surface anywhere on earth at noon:

That's that!

A summer solstice noon sun wouldn't cast any shadow from a vertical stick anywhere on earth and there wouldn't be an equivalent winter solstice in that other hemisphere... you know... like it's winter in Australia, South Africa or South America right now... well, that's only possible with earth having a spherical geometry. Not possible with a flat/planar geometry.

Basic 101 geometry.

That's all.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)

If it's a psyop, by whom and why?

Testing. Testing methods, and getting responses - data to feedback into fine tuning their control mechanisms / algorithms. All prep for the implementation of global control down to the personal level.

[TargeT]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)

If it's a psyop, by whom and why?

Testing. Testing methods, and getting responses - data to feedback into fine tuning their control mechanisms / algorithms. All prep for the implementation of global control down to the personal level.

gullibility check.

[PurpleLama]

Nope, not checking gullibility, it's purpose is to discredit. You know those crazy conspiracy theorists all believe the earth is flat, what a laugh!