Rigged elections: let's put this question to rest for good

[Matt P]

Hello folks! I still occasionally see threads and posts from some wondering if in fact the United States presidential election is rigged or not. I don't see it as a debate. The evidence is in, the jury has deliberated and the verdict has been delivered. The election is completely 100% rigged. The only thing that hasn't happened is the judge carrying out justice.

Another little tidbit of information came to me today. A recent Stanford University study of the voting results of the Democratic primaries showed what many of us already knew: there is no such thing as an election when it's done on computers with no paper trail.

Here's the study: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6m...w?pref=2&pli=1

Please take note of the two circular graphs about halfway down.



It doesn't get much clearer than this, folks.

Let's go back to the 2000 presidential election. It was claimed this was the first time exit polls didn't match the result. Perhaps some of you remember this election was in question with hanging chads and Florida recounts. Perhaps you remember Greg Palast published the proof that the fix was in **while the recount was still going on** in the December 2000 issue of Salon. He found the process had been rigged in the primaries, especially in how they deleted legitimate voters from the voter rolls. Thousands and thousands of democratic, mostly black, voters, denied the right to vote, carried out in large part by the Secretary of State of Florida, Katherine Harris. The piece in Salon was called "Florida's flawed 'voter-cleansing' program", published Dec. 4 of 2000. The link is no longer on Salon or I'd share it. Greg has it on his site advertised as Salon's political story of the year. Remember the election hinged on a few hundred votes and here was evidence that thousands of democratic voters had been denied the right to vote.

http://www.gregpalast.com/floridas-f...y-of-the-year/

He also published a follow up to this called The Great Florida Ex-Con Game, in Harper's, in March of 2002.

http://www.gregpalast.com/the-great-...elf-felonious/


Of course, even with all the vote rigging it turns out the greatest fixers of all were standing right in the Supreme Court of the United States. Who says judges can't be bought?! Lol. The rest is history. The court ended the Florida recount and it was eventually discovered that no matter how the questioned votes had been counted, Al Gore won Florida and the presidency. Ooops. Oh well, at least the American people won't remember for very long! Especially when the people who stole that election then pulled off the 9/11 false flag a few months later!! And then went on a rampage of illegal wars! One fixed election and look where it took us!

But the story never went away because they just kept rigging elections and were so sloppy about it, people found out and talked. One of them testified to Congress about the software HE HELPED DEVELOP to flip election results with no trace at all! His name was Clinton Curtis. Here's the clip.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

Here's a couple college students showing how easy it is:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rYnUksWt5HQ

And the professionals, with actual voting staff present:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Lp2NR2La14

Of course nothing ever happened. Nothing has changed, unless you count the huge increase in computerized voting.

Fast forward to 2012 and the Republican primary fight between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. Reports were everywhere about exit polling not matching results in the early primaries. Of course major media refused to take Paul seriously. Then his own party changed the rules to limit Paul's chances against Romney because his popularity was even bigger than their vote manipulations. I think the goal was to make sure a very weak and unpopular Romney went against Obama to make certain O would get a second term. Those in the know understood the real winner of the republican primaries was Ron Paul and that he would have destroyed Obama in a real election....but a real election is not something that can be allowed. And it wasn't.

Here's a brief interview where he talks about that:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OLO7wmHZVYc

A quote from Dr. Paul a few minutes into this video:
"The system is rigged. Voting is just pacification for the voters and it really doesn't count."

The presidential winner is selected years in advance by people in Bilderberger, CFR and other elite confabs. Once the "winner" is selected then the whole process is fixed to give the illusion that the outcome was a popular vote.

I have been saying for a few years I believe Hillary was the next selected president, even before her official run. If you pay attention, the patterns aren't that hidden.

And then what do I see today? A story about the big night of the democratic convention and reports that when all the Sanders supporters walked out, the place was half empty. So what did they do? They paid hundreds of people to come sit in the seats to give the illusion of strong support. They were paid $50 a night and told to stand, clap, cheer and be prepared to wear promotional materials. You saw this news all over CNN and FOX, right?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc

Think about it. Unless Hillary was the expected winner, why go through the trouble of having the entire mainstream media lie about simple things such as "she can't even fill an arena of supporters on her party's biggest night." It doesn't fit the script and it would call into question the ultimate results...so it's hidden.

And one attendee getting confirmation of at least one seat filler:

https://video-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/...8b&oe=579A493A

This is obviously just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to fraudulent elections. There are soooooo many ways the system is rigged, start to finish. Anywhere in the world where politically affiliated corporations own voting machines (without a verified paper trail) and the local media outlets, ANY election for ANY issue can be fixed. Bottom line: There is no such thing as a legitimate presidential election in the United States when there is no verifiable paper trail!! Check out Bev Harris and Black Box Voting if you want to read more into the history and current info about this topic. http://blackboxvoting.org/

Case closed (I hope).

Matt

[marique3652]

Awesome post. I have known in my heart that the vote does not mean jack crap, this evidence corresponds with what I have felt for a long time. Things are rigged...yup! Thanks for this awesome share, now I will finish watching all the videos, have not watched the last one yet.

[Cidersomerset]

Nothing new it goes back along way I did a post somewhere about the 'Rotten'
boroughs in the UK in Victorian times and in the movie Lincoln there was a scene
about buying congress mans votes and corruption . It had been tidied up a bit last
century , but voting box's would go missing , postal vote fraud was an issue in the
UK over past few general elections. The Brexit vote was a paper ballot and since no
party was involved there does not seem to have been much if any allegations of
fraud though if it went the other way people would have been more suspicious.

Digital fraud seems to be the most vulnerable and has caused problems in the US
though other forms can still be manipulated even a show of hands can be
miscounted if not care full...LOL

Kerry conceded the 2004 elections even though he knew there was fraud and
was set up to fight it after Al Gores experience in the 2000 election. A lot
of political theatre is for the press and electorate to pretend they are doing
something. In the end it does not matter that much if neo - cons reps and
neo -dems as they have been following the same agenda from the 1980's
till today , if not earlier. It does not matter who is President its the bureaucracy
lobbyists , corporations behind them that run the country.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tijGgqp7mQ0

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Hacking Democracy - The Hack ...This intro vid is also posted in # 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t75xvZ3osFg

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Hacking Democracy - Full Documentary

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M7W7rHxTsH0

Published on 9 Mar 2016


Ahamo 2016 Winner/ Excellence in Documentary Film /
The disturbingly shocking HBO documentary HACKING DEMOCRACY bravely tangles
with our nation's ills at the heart of democracy. The film politicians do not want you
to see, this revelatory journey follows tenacious Seattle grandmother Bev Harris
and her band of extraordinary citizen-activists as they set out to ask one simple
question: How does America count its votes? From Florida and California to Ohio
and Washington State, filmmakers Simon Ardizzone, Robert Cohen, and Russell
Michaels starkly reveal a broken system riddled with secrecy, incompetent election
officials, and electronic voting machines that can be programmed to steal elections.
Equipped only with a powerful sense of righteous outrage, the activists take on
voting machine industry, exposing alarming security holes in America's trusted
voting machines. They even go dumpster diving at a county election official's office
in Florida, uncovering incendiary evidence of miscounted votes. But proving our
votes can be stolen without a trace culminates in a duel between Diebold voting
machines and a computer hacker from Finland—with America's democracy at stake.

[Cidersomerset]

This is from todays headline page and I posted it on Callista's where David is
currently on that leg of his world wide tour. Its a good interview and I was debating
whether to post it as a thread .

Anyway why I post it here is that they mention the current US elections and it does
not matter at the end of the day who wins as they both answer ultimately to the
same corporate and other masters. Still voting fraud is a fundamental problem in
any election and local fraud may be for various reasons , though if the machinery is
owned by corporate interests this goes into corruption and darker agendas.....



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This is a pretty good interview....

David Icke on Kiss FM Radio - Melbourne, Australia (26/07/16)

By Jaymie on 28 July 2016 GMT

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jmV_j4MP23I

Published on 27 Jul 2016

[ghostrider]

The way of know it's rigged , no matter who gets elected, nothing changes... Same speeches, same wars, same blame game, they always need more money for education and the children ...

[wnlight]

If there is no paper trail from the electronic voting machine, you can know that the purpose is to rig the election. Folks, the ballot box is broken.

[pyrangello]

It is my understanding that all the votes in the US are totaled by a company located in Spain which to me sounds insane , can anybody verify this? Also last election I saw 1 story by a news authority that in Cleveland when Romney was running against Obama that out of the 59 precincts in Cleveland , Romney only received 1 vote per precinct. The story than vanished , anybody remember that or can verify that as well?

[Cidersomerset]

Lying To Get Elected So They Can Serve The Hidden Hand - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast Trailer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z5KGqGEPTAE

Published on 29 Jul 2016

All David's Books Now Available Here http://www.DavidIckeStore.com
Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump Lying To Get Elected So They Can Serve The Hidden Hand

[amor]

What a pity if Trump is a plant of the Hidden Hand as well as Hillary. Their lives both depend on playing ball with their Bankers; therefore, what can you expect. I thought I could vote for the first time in my life; however, it seems it is not to be.

A great young man was running for Sheriff in Florida. He suddenly had a heart attack. The autopsy showed his blood vessels lined with cholesterol. I thought a competitor might have used the heart ray gun on him. Not this time. Failing to vote will tell them nothing. They will register fake votes in the fake machines. It is time for the Militia to take back the country. Is there still a Militia? Is there still a Country? Not according to Obama.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Great post, and an important reminder, thanks.

My worry is that even if there was a sliver of hope with Trump as President, it isn't meant to be, he's not going to win anyway - and he knows he's not. He's just a Punch to Clinton's Judy, his strings pulled by the same master. Clinton will win, and was always going to win - they will ensure it via this rigging process..

In which case, oh dear (for all of us).

[Carmody]

it's really simple; nothing changes until you personally get out of your chair and risk yourself, so as to incite the same in others.

Until then, it's more of the same.

It's all on you. Like it always has been -- and always will be.

You're in a war, you have been in one for a very long time.

The last thing to be pulled from you will be aspects of self security in the idea of shared normals, ie the norms that allow you to walk down the familiar street.

The rest is facade, which behind lay the lies and the horrors. It's done that way as this feeling of self security that you derive from the day to day aspects of life, are the real drivers of self as the self is governed by thought processes controlled by the body. Ie the thing that makes you take another haul off a cigarette, or buy a sugary thing, or buy that drug or alcohol, are the same inner components that are to be pulled from you lastly, as these are the inner drives and core components that form your thought process. and those inner deeper drives that are directing and founding your thought process, they strive for their normal state of being, their repetition in patterns and are as a 'system' of operation.

So.... they have learned to leave the facade of normalcy alone, that it ....is to be removed last.

Note the extreme cracks in that normalcy.

This tells you that the war against you is quite far gone, quite far advanced.

[Sierra]

Unfortunately...

[turiya]

Cross-posted in another thread...

As for the possibility of Vote Rigging... It is the only way I have felt that Donald Trump could possibly be defeated. There is, however, a movement in progress that is designed to put an end to this stealing of elections through electronic voting machines... Lawsuit is Pending.

Although attorney Cliff Arnebeck confidently states that Hillary Clinton will not steal the nomination away from Bernie Sanders. The deed was nonetheless done, as everyone, including Bernie Sanders came to realize. Arnebeck's miscalculation may still hold some weight for the upcoming general election in November, 2016.

Racketeering Lawsuit Exposing Nationwide Vote Rigging in DNC Primaries Could Derail Clinton

by Jay Syrmopoulos
June 12, 2016

Corte Madera, CA – A major lawsuit is on the precipice of being filed by the Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity, the implications of which could dramatically alter the landscape of the 2016 U.S. presidential race.

The group claims that in about eleven states, there has been noted a significant difference between the exit polls and the electronic vote totals presented on the morning after the primaries. These differences show votes appear to be shifted from Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton. The chances of this kind of shift happening are considered to be statistically impossible between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning in these eleven states. See the chart below.



“We are going to be filing a racketeering lawsuit under the Ohio Racketeering law, the strongest in the country and we can bring in every state, our RICO statute is coextensive with the federal RICO statute… So they’re nailed,” said Cliff Arnebeck.

Arnebeck, an election lawyer, got his J.D. from Harvard and is the chair of the Legal Affairs Committee of Common Cause Ohio and a national co-chair and attorney for the Alliance of Democracy. He will be joined by Bob Fitrakis, an election lawyer and political science professor, as co-counsel.

Computer security expert Stephen Spoonamore, who worked with Arnebeck on exposing GOP election fraud in Ohio has noted that when exit poll data varies more than 2% from electronic vote totals, the electronic vote totals are questionable.

(Uploaded on Aug 5, 2008)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1sz-xBxf8

In fact, 2% is the boundary by the US government when determining whether an election in another country has possibly been stolen. Please notice the exit poll differences in the 2016 DNC primaries listed above are significantly more than 2%. These differences point to questionable results for the electronic vote totals and likely electronic vote switching.

“This is not a Republican-Democrat issue, this is not a partisan issue, this is a Democracy issue, if you actually care about a Constitutional democracy in which each person votes, that vote is validated and the people who end up in office are reflected on the basis of the way people voted you care about this issue,” said Spoonamore.

According to the Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity:

IMPORTANT NOTE: Although we have taken note of the shift here from Sanders to Clinton, we are NOT in any way stating who has done the shifting. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO HAS DONE THE SHIFTING OF THE ELECTRONIC VOTE TOTALS. This situation has galvanized three organizations, The Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity (ADE) , the Columbus Institute of Contemporary Journalism, and Democracy Counts to set up our own exit polls and audits to track apparent election results in California.

Richard Charnin, a mathematician and statistician and author of the book, Matrix of Deceit, has been reporting on the apparent shifting of electronic vote totals and the non-release of raw data from Edison since 2004. Richard Charnin, well-known for what he calls the “Red Shift” which has been a shift between exit polls and electronic vote total differences of about 4-5% each year. This constitutes a shift to the political right. Although he is unable to analyze the raw data, he has been able to get screen shots of what the exit polls showed minutes before all of the electronic votes have been totaled since 2004.

In 2004, when Edison Research initially got exit poll data that said that Kerry was winning and Bush was losing at 9pm on election night and that the reverse was true shortly after midnight, Edison Research made a choice to “adjust” the raw data after that time so that it would match the electronic voting machine totals. Edison Research definitely wanted to keep being hired by the Media Consortium which proposes to tell viewers the true election results but which also chooses to trust electronic voting machine data. That was the last time that the American public has been able to see raw exit poll data.

Unfortunately this year, substantial exit poll differences have been noted in the US primary. In this year’s primary, the Red Shift appears to have become the “Clinton Shift”.

Arnebeck was the lead attorney, with Fitrakis as his co-counsel in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case, which exposed electronic vote rigging in Ohio’s 2004 presidential race. During the lawsuit, a very revealing deposition of Michael Connell, head IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove, provided insight into how the election fraud conspiracy operated.

According to a report by Truth-out:

Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio’s vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush’s unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash.

One can clearly see how deep the rabbit hole goes, as the one person who could implicate the actual individuals responsible for the election fraud conspiracy happens to have an “accident” that kills him. Essentially the investigation could go no further upon the suspicious death of Connell, thus protecting those behind the conspiracy.

Given these facts, it’s apparent that Arnebeck and his team are the real deal, and have experience in bringing a major legal action involving voter fraud and electronic vote rigging/switching.

Initially, the new lawsuit was to be filed on June 6, as stated in the video release announcing the results of their investigation, but the filing was delayed due to ADE wanting to include data from California’s primary, which was held on June 7.

Suspiciously, the Media Consortium and Edison Research, which control election polling, has now decided to cancel the remaining exit polls for the 2016 primaries. Many suspect these exit polls have been canceled because these exit poll differences could be used as an indicator of election fraud when contrasted with electronic voting totals.

“There is no way the Democratic Convention is going to nominate somebody on the basis of obviously stolen votes …the facts are coming out and that’s a fact… We are suing the media as being complicit in the crime. They are acting as accessories after the fact. They are covering up evidence of criminal activity, it’s a crime,” said Arnebeck.

In my opinion Hillary Clinton has been used for the purpose of scuttling Bernie Sanders campaign for president, she is being used…but they’ve been caught, it’s obvious, it’s just like Bernie Sanders when he talks about the system is rigged, ah the elections are rigged, the evidence is clear, everybody’s gonna see it and the game is over…Bernie has won in fact…”

The fact that electronic vote rigging is currently taking place, while the mainstream corporate media remains curiously silent, indicates a massive fraud being perpetrated on the American public. Make no mistake, had the vote been closer in the GOP primary the nomination would likely have been stolen from Trump in the same manner. This isn’t a partisan issue, but one that slashes across the political spectrum and should alarm every American.

The time has come to ask ourselves who is behind the stealing of U.S. elections, and maybe more importantly; why does nobody in a position of authority seem interested in finding out?

In the video below Arnebeck breaks down how they prevented the Ohio presidential race from being stolen in 2012 and explains exactly what is taking place in this election cycle.

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Stephen Spoonamore, Computer Security Guru,
Election Theft with Voter Machines
(Published on Jun 8, 2012)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BX6vcoIZdA4

Stephen Spoonamoore:

"Diebold is lying. There is no electronic system in the world that cannot be hacked! I have spent my entire life building or hacking electronic systems. There are entire companies that are dedicated to 'ethical' hacking - if you want to call it that - there is no system in the world - NONE - that cannot be hacked! The only way to secure a system is with paper ballots."

[wnlight]

Thank you, turiya, for your long, informative post. Too bad that nothing will come of it. The PTB will make sure that Killery will win. If by some very small chance that Trump should win, they will control him. If they are dissatisfied with Trump, he will die. He running mate seems to be one that would be more easily controlled.

[Carmody]

the non-partisan vote rigging, illustrates that the real game is happening quite a bit further up in the chain of command. Likely two layers up, not up one layer.

This gets you deeply into the hidden finance situation. where hundreds of trillions flow, into secret projects, off world war footing defense budgets, and so on.

Wholesale breakaway civilization aspects. Where you are just the slave weaving the cloth or toiling in the field as the underwriter of their effort.

The original underwriter of their attempt to be on par with alien technology.

Due to that technology being of a true breakaway nature, in depth of development and how fast the innovation truly moves (whereas you are still using 1960's rocket technology--the only known spot in all of human technology that has held still is space technology, which is IMPOSSIBLE)...due to an enforced separation and forced slow down of technological development which would Inform psychology/life and create the societal change.... the bulk of humanity...is now at least 70 to 100 years developmentally behind in social, mental, academic, scientific, military, cultural and religious, etc structure.

You've been purposely degraded and retarded and used as a cover story for the hiding (to hide from off world visitors, etc) of technological development in a breakaway civilization, and THAT is what is pulling the chains and strings on both the idea and reality of the polarized parties of politics and corporate malfeasance that has gone on in this world since the early 1950's.

Once they were far enough away from you in development of technology and changes in psychology, and in size/personnel/etc well.. how big could they become?.. remember how many people we can put in a country inside of 75 or so years.... Literally a breakaway civilization.

(data point in time: Regan's memoirs directly state that he was told, when he got to the white house, that the USA could put 300 people into space, immediately. That the USA, at that time... had the ability to immediately deploy 300 people and their gear. That was what he was told, and I don't think he was given even a fraction of the truth. Look it up.)(and a thousand other clues just like this one)

Humanity, ie, the earth population became superfluous to that breakaway technology group. We are talking about a hidden system which was paranoid - psychotically so... secretive - psychotically so... and doing this separately ---and developing, for 70+ years.

With unlimited technological change at their fingertips, with no restrictions, no controls, no limits, no energy limits, nothing.

Everything you know is wrong. Your entire life and everything you care about is notably falsified and way off course.. and has been blunted and dumped into a garbage can. For most of you reading this...all this... before you were ever born.. all done by a cabal of technological militants, of very dubious mentality. Ie, space fascists.

Probably the only reason you are still around, is that they want the planet to left intact, in some ways.

When you look at these politics and their exposed non-partisan aspects in election rigging, the financial games, the technological advances coming fast and furious, the revelations of the past in technological circles, the UFO presence, and much more (100's of thousands of pages of evidence and reports), you see a pattern, a pattern that indicates that the mundane view -for any of the data- is the most insane and misguided of view of all.

All of these moves from all of these politicians from all of the major powers of the world can only be explained in the analysis of looking for other powers behind the given thrones. When you look at them, they are the kinds games you witness when control groups walk into African countries, etc, and manipulate their politics and elections, for the benefit of a chosen few. So, we can get that far, but it does not explain the rest. the finances, the technology, the alien presence, the quantum aspects, and so on.

The only thing that fits so far, and it has reams and reams of data to back it up.....is there is a breakaway high technology civilization in the backdrop. One that is now so developed from using us up, so far along in it's high technology development...that it is now down to using the bulk of humanity as a simple disguise and cover story... and has little do with this future (of humanity), other than their being what decides what it, ie 'us'..we are the residual and shed dead skin.... what that earth humanity- is supposed to be.

You, if you try to understand this, should be so upset, so unbelievably, so inconsolably upset to even your grandfather's core..that I'm not sure you anger can die after even a few generations. You have been screwed in a way that is off the rails impossible to calculate or even wrap your head around.

As if your grandparents were enslaved outside of their knowledge, your parents were crushed beneath a boot... and you wake up to this.... in the form of being a half eaten worm - on your deathbed.

As this...is pretty well where you stand, compared to how your present life should have played out.

Yet, all of this never had to be, if they hadn't decided to keep the technology hidden, at any cost (late 40's early 50's). (and involve themselves with using and working with hardcore fascists!!)

Even they knew it had to be released (Ben Rich, etc) and they knew they were too late in releasing it to the public (that the very realistic boiling anger and hatred for this.... would be directed at them).

They went from "paranoid war footing and technology controlling" thoughts (40's-50's), into extreme advances coming along way too fast (60's-70's-80's)(and running the world's finances in order to do so)..into being accidental-purposeful (factions within!) oppressors and 'humanity wrecking' (1990's-2000's), in all one continuous motion, from the 50's to today's times.

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In this sort of above nutshell, this is why you have direct and prosecutable evidence of federal and treasonous crimes to OPENLY steal the USA presidential elections for at least the past few elections, and much, much, much more.... some totally insane stuff....and no-one is doing anything about it. Those who try.... are sidelined (warned, etc) or outright killed.

No one is being prosecuted, nothing. Just like a corporate and CIA pairing of people and groups who might be running some given African country. That everything is 100% obvious and insane, yet nothing gets done to correct it.

That there is nobody home to fix it, as the ENTIRE game, on all levels and components..... is now rigged. Completely finished and in the bucket of control and manipulation (openly so), on all levels, just like the given small African country.

The vote rigging is a symptom, not a true deep cause or core component. Just a mere symptom, a bit of spoor --the evidence of much bigger, more fundamental games. It is a symptom, a witnessed manipulation of a appendage-like item. Nothing more.

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It is critical to understand WHY one should be looking at and attempting to end vote rigging of this nature. To understand the core reasons behind non-partisan Federal level vote rigging. Otherwise your attempts at solution will be meaningless and ineffective. You cannot effectively move toward change, while being a blind man punching empty air --as an unseen enemy runs you through with a sword.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The only thing that fits so far, and it has reams and reams of data to back it up.....is there is a breakaway high technology civilization in the backdrop. One that is now so developed from using us up, so far along in it's high technology development...that it is now down to using the bulk of humanity as a simple disguise and cover story... and has little do with this future (of humanity), other than their being what decides what it, ie 'us'..we are the residual and shed dead skin.... what that earth humanity- is supposed to be.

An image is coming to my mind, of humanity being ridden hard, stirred into Great Wars and Passions, especially over the last century, like horses in a grand battle of two cavalries, whose raw strength and energy has been used to help engineer, energize and materialize these hidden developments, including mining of the earth's minerals and energy, development of technology and building the manufacturing, which all helped serve as a basis for the hidden breakaway civilization's expanded capabilities.

The debt-based monetary system has been one of the key mechanisms to monitor and control us horses ... the spur and the bridle.

Now these developments are far enough along, the "horses" (that's us) ridden hard enough, that we can be put up wet, (rode hard, put up wet), in this pasture called earth, to be milked or butchered or used for whatever other remaining value we, and this planet, have.

The New World Order ... where humanity is put out to pasture, and/or fattened for the slaughter when the bastards would have their feasts.

[mojo]

Some people have come to the conclusion the electoral votes are going to steal the next election. Nobody in the news is discussing this and interesting parallel between the Democratic delegates that voted Hillary in and the electoral college possibly doing the same thing. How can we trust it? The system has already been proven corrupt and we can expect more of the same.

[turiya]

Posted by wnlight (here)
Thank you, turiya, for your long, informative post. Too bad that nothing will come of it. The PTB will make sure that Killery will win. If by some very small chance that Trump should win, they will control him. If they are dissatisfied with Trump, he will die. He running mate seems to be one that would be more easily controlled.

I tend to sense that he is the type of man that would not be controllable. Knowing Trump for some 40 years, Roger Stone has come out to say this himself. No doubt Trump knows what he's up against, he's not an idiot. He is a man with a backbone, unlike 'Burned Bernie', who's turned on his supporters to endorse the 'Crooked "Wall Street" Hillary' (probably made a deal of some kind with her). Trump knows his life is at risk in playing this kind of game.

Like I said in my above post, the only way he would not win the presidential election would be due to vote rigging. However there is a bit of a glitch which comes with the method & means of accomplishing a vote rigging. And that is, its much harder to accomplish with a candidate that wins with a "landslide" vote.

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An Emergency Message To Donald Trump
(Published on Jul 30, 2016)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fy1Mg8rlFsU

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Yes, with electronic voting machines, it seems the only deterrent is for the candidate to be so popular that a particular candidate would win by a landslide vote... this is backed up in the Democracy Now interview with Harvey Wasserman of Columbus, Ohio. Harvey has co-written the book, "What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election."

In the interview [at 0:10] Harvey briefly notes that because of Obama's popularity [effectively a landslide], it had caused 'Vote Rigging' to be a non-issue...

(Published on Feb 23, 2016)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OvF213popIA

About electronic voting machines could be used to steal elections...

Harvey Wasserman:"Well, electronic voting machines were used to steal the Presidential election right here in Ohio in 2004. John Kerry was the rightful winner in 2004 over George W Bush. The Secretary of State at the time, J. Kenneth Blackwell, and the governor, Robert Taft, used their power over electronic vote count to flip the vote to George W Bush. We watched right up close & personal. I work with a political scientist name Bob Petracus. We're about to come out with another book, "The Strip and Flip Selection of 2016: Five Jim Crows & Electronic Election Theft."

They are stripping the voter rolls - and Greg Palast, the great investigative reporter has done great work on this - removing African-Americans, Hispanics, people who might be inclined to vote progressive. In 2004 they stripped 300,000 people from the voter rolls, here in the urban areas. Bush only won by less than 120.

This year, about 80% of the vote will be cast on electronic voting machines. There is no verifiability in six key swing states - Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa & Arizona - you have republican governors & republican secretaries of state. And, no method of verifying the electronic vote count. At midnight, or whenever it is, on election night, those two guys can go in there with an IT person & flip the outcome of an electronically counted vote within about 60 seconds.

So all these millions & millions of dollars for campaigning & so on, can be negated by an electronic vote flip, late at night on election night. And there is no way to verify what's happened.

Amy: They didn't do this with President Obama iin 2008.

Harvey Wasserman: He had too many votes. He was too far out [in front]. It would have taken them too many States to flip the vote. Obama won by more than 10 million votes. The official vote count was...

Amy: But what gives you this idea?

Harvey Wasserman: We've seen it happen... When you compare exit polls that are really accurate within 1%, with the electronic outcome, there are huge variations. We have documented many dozens of different things that they have done over the years, to flip elections.

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Roger Stone on The Milo Show:
How Trump Can Fight Voter Fraud
Breitbart News‎ - 2 days ago

by Charlie Nash
29 Jul 2016

Republican strategist, lobbyist, and Donald Trump confidante Roger Stone joined Breitbart‘s Milo Yiannopoulos on the latest episode of the Milo Yiannopoulos Show to discuss voter fraud and how Trump has the ability to beat it.

“I have no doubt that after the last election, when Karl Rove, who was George Bush’s campaign manager and a Romney partisan, insisted that ‘no no, your numbers have to be wrong,’ he said on Fox, ‘Romney definitely carried Ohio,’ and the reason he was so certain is because it was bought and paid for,” he claimed. “He knew the fix was supposed to be in. Therefore I can only conclude that sometimes things don’t stay bought, and perhaps Obama came in with a better offer.”

“This stuff is going to horrify most voters, I mean this is amazing,” added Yiannopoulos.

“There’s a mathematician called Richard Charnin, a very eccentric fellow. Last time I met him he was wearing a ski jacket in 90 degree weather, he’s one of those. He’s also brilliant,” replied Stone.

“He’s a retired mathematician and he’s a genius. He’s written an extensive monograph on how every election in the state of Wisconsin in the last decade has been stolen, and you figure this out by comparing the polling, on a district by district basis, to the results, and then you’ll find a swing that is mathematically impossible,” Stone claimed. “In other words, you were losing a given precinct by four points, and then you’ll win it by twelve. Such a swing is unlikely to say the least.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1bPR846gO8U

“Do they typically move in one direction?” asked Yiannopoulos.

“Yeah, the elections are rigged for one entity or another. So, who are the perpetrators? The perpetrators are the people who manufacture and sell these machines. The most common electronic voting machine, which is really just a computer, is a company called Diebold,” Stone replied.

“Diebold’s top executives and owners of the company are major donors to the Bush’s. Is this a major factor on how George W. Bush quite improbably beat John Kerry? An election that all truths on paper, Kerry should’ve won, and Bush should have lost,” questioned Stone.

“I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly,” Stone said. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’”

“If you can’t have an honest election, nothing else counts,” he continued. “I think he’s gotta put them on notice that their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath. The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it. We will not stand for it.”

“So, I mean the dream here, the ultimate ideal is that he wins by such a significant margin nationally that this is unnecessary,” Yiannopoulos concluded. “But it’s interesting to hear you say this, and it’s funny also, because Trump will go there. He will go to the places other politicians wont, and he’s probably the only person to run for president within the last fifty years who would dare to do this, and might even get away with it. It’s remarkable isn’t it how he’s just sort of re-injected reality into politics”.

You can listen to the entire show, as well as previous episodes on PodcastOne now, or listen to the show on the move by downloading it for free on iTunes.

Charlie Nash is a reporter for Breitbart Tech. You can follow him on Twitter @MrNashington or like his page at Facebook.

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US Election Shocker: Is This How The Vote Will Be Rigged?

By David on 2 August 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

ACTIVIST POST....

US Election Shocker: Is This How The Vote Will Be Rigged?

TOPICS:CorruptionJon RappoportPresidential Campaign 2016.
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August 1, 2016



By Jon Rappoport

‘Votes are being counted as fractions instead of as whole numbers.

As we know, there are a number of ways to rig an election. Bev Harris,
at blackboxvoting.org, is exploring a specific “cheat sheet” that has
vast implications for the Trump vs. Hillary contest.

It’s a vote-counting system called GEMS.

I urge you to dive into her multi-part series, Fraction Magic. Here are
key Harris quotes. They’re all shockers:

“Our testing [of GEMS] shows that one vote can be counted 25 times,
another only one one-thousandth of a time, effectively converting some
votes to zero.”’

Read more: US Election Shocker: Is This How The Vote Will Be Rigged?


https://www.davidicke.com/article/38...te-will-rigged

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The Republican presidential candidate first spoke at a town hall event in Columbus, Ohio, where he said that election on November 8 might be “rigged.”

“I'm afraid the election is going to be rigged, I have to be honest,” the Republican nominee told the crowd, as cited by AP. He added that he has been hearing “more and more” that the election may not be contested fairly, though he did not give any further details.

RT-article: Trump warns US presidential election will be ‘rigged’, calls Hillary Clinton ‘the Devil’