The Devil and Donald Trump

[giovonni]

Proving again and again he is his own worse enemy ...

One wonders does he really even want to be president ...

Covering all the bases.



The Devil and Donald Trump

[Cardillac]

if I may add my own cheap, 25-cent opinion to this posting;

1st of all: what I cannot figure out about Trump is his, at times, claiming to want to buck the system/Satus Quo that made him what he is: wealthy-

so why would he want to bite the hand that feeds him?- is he "controlled opposition" (there is such a thing!)?- I don't have the answer- am not an insider-

2nd of all (regarding Trump's accusations that H. Clinton is "the devil"): if David Icke's research is to be taken seriously and his posting of the so-called Illuminati whistle-blower Arizona Wilder "Confessions of a Mother Godess" video is to be taken seriously (if, if, IF, IF!), Wilder claims to have seen H. Clinton involved in a satanic ritual;

so are Trump's accusations against Clinton just him talking off the top of his head or has he been informed about something?- I just don't know for sure- am not an insider-

in any case: I would prefer to ignore both candidates but we don't have that choice if one choses to vote and believes in the myth that the USA is a Democracy...

please be well all-

Larry

[Chester]

Regardless of how bad Trump could be, I know how bad Hillary is and IMO, it would be impossible for anything to be worse for the whole planet than Hillary to be US president.

Despite what I know with regards to Hillary, I also know that we (humanity) have allowed the planet to be taken over by those with self interests and group interests who do not care about the interests of the rest of us. And so Hillary is a huge odds on favorite to be this next US president. Those interests will ensure this. In fact, its pretty clear that Trump becoming the alternative was meant to ensure this.

Yes, I have given up.

I have one recommendation to my kids. Do not bring other souls to this planet at this time or any time in the near future.

[joeecho]

A couple of observations:

1) The whole rhetoric between and within the two major parties reminds me of a dog and pony show. Check that, it IS a dog and pony show.

2) MSM news is now overwhelmingly about Trump or Clinton...... so what, did most of the important world events and discussion making just all the sudden stop happening?

[Yetti]

Hello Cardillac. About HRC I have no doubt who she is , the question is who DT is... , all circus, all entertainment for the masses, meanwhile the behind doors agreements continues to roll full speed. We need to change this , we need to find the way to gather a 3rd option with enough force to set aside the monsters!!

[Yetti]

Sam , Don't you think a 3rd party can take over this ridiculous show we have now, I was thinking the possibilities and couldn't be worse than any of the actual nominees R/D !!

[ceetee9]

Posted by joeecho (here)
1) The whole rhetoric between and within the two major parties reminds me of a dog and pony show. Check that, it IS a dog and pony show.

Without question and even worse IMO.

Posted by joeecho (here)
2) MSM news is now overwhelmingly about Trump or Clinton...... so what, did most of the important world events and discussion making just all the sudden stop happening?

Not to mention most of the MSM has no problem flaunting their disgusting liberal/"progressive" bias as is quite evident when they spend far more time bashing Trump than Clinton. Gotta do everything they can to keep the gullible believing they represent the majority of Americans. And, no, I'm not a Trump fan. I just despise the MSM's shameless bias. There is no unbiased reporting in this country anymore--if there ever really was.

[giovonni]

Posted by ceetee9 (here)

Posted by joeecho (here)
1) The whole rhetoric between and within the two major parties reminds me of a dog and pony show. Check that, it IS a dog and pony show.

Without question and even worse IMO.

Posted by joeecho (here)
2) MSM news is now overwhelmingly about Trump or Clinton...... so what, did most of the important world events and discussion making just all the sudden stop happening?

Not to mention most of the MSM has no problem flaunting their disgusting liberal/"progressive" bias as is quite evident when they spend far more time bashing Trump than Clinton. Gotta do everything they can to keep the gullible believing they represent the majority of Americans. And, no, I'm not a Trump fan. I just despise the MSM's shameless bias. There is no unbiased reporting in this country anymore--if there ever really was.

Still i am really amazed Trump has gotten this far without saying (or committing) to anything of real substance ...
If he's going to go all the way - he will have to take it beyond adlib's or (reality) TV scripted one liners.

Whether or not he was set up all along to be the patsy - now it appears his unpredictable personalty type is causing concerned worries within the big money establishment - hence the recent MSM onslaught attacks ... This could be disastrous for his final fall campaign surge.

[ceetee9]

Posted by Yetti (here)
Sam , Don't you think a 3rd party can take over this ridiculous show we have now, I was thinking the possibilities and couldn't be worse than any of the actual nominees R/D !!

I apologize for jumping in here Sam and Yetti. I'm sure Sam will respond.

If the people I know and have talked to, who claim to dislike both R/D candidates immensely and who vow to vote for a 3rd party candidate, is any indication of how the majority of Americans feel then, yes, I believe an Independent candidate, like Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson, might have a chance.

However, with the MSM propaganda machine doing what they always do by keeping the focus on the Rep/Dem "Dog and Pony Show" and the fact that it is exceedingly difficult to get people to change their habits, I suspect it will come down to what it likely has always come down to and the rank and file will vote their party line or vote for "the lesser of the two evils" for fear of "throwing away their vote." And, voila, the status quo is maintained for yet another 4 years.

But for those who may be interested, here's a link to the "2016 Independent Presidential Candidates."

[ceetee9]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by ceetee9 (here)

Posted by joeecho (here)
1) The whole rhetoric between and within the two major parties reminds me of a dog and pony show. Check that, it IS a dog and pony show.

Without question and even worse IMO.

Posted by joeecho (here)
2) MSM news is now overwhelmingly about Trump or Clinton...... so what, did most of the important world events and discussion making just all the sudden stop happening?

Not to mention most of the MSM has no problem flaunting their disgusting liberal/"progressive" bias as is quite evident when they spend far more time bashing Trump than Clinton. Gotta do everything they can to keep the gullible believing they represent the majority of Americans. And, no, I'm not a Trump fan. I just despise the MSM's shameless bias. There is no unbiased reporting in this country anymore--if there ever really was.

Still i am really amazed Trump has gotten this far without saying (or committing) to anything of real substance ...
If he's going to go all the way - he will have to take it beyond adlib's or (reality) TV scripted one liners.

As if Hillary has made any statements of real substance? No offense Giovonni, but neither candidate has made any statements of any real substance. They are all one liner sound bites, generally of the same garbage we've heard every election, and that's when they aren't slamming their opponent. I can't remember ever hearing any candidate not bad mouthing their opponent(s) and just laying out their "plans" and then providing real details as to how they were going to implement those plans. One liner sound bites, slamming your opponent, rah-rah speeches, banal platitudes, and zero substance "plans" with no real intent to ever implement them (in most cases) all designed to appease the bewildered masses is all we ever get. This is the way of our political process.

I wish someone would put together a video of all the crap/"promises"/zero substance "plans" that Presidential candidates have spewed over the last 50 years. They could play it over and over on all channels every election year and STILL few would be the wiser. I don't even waste my time arguing with those who still believe there's a difference between the two parties or that THEIR candidate is the candidate of CHANGE (whatever that is supposed to mean) who will lead us into the promised land. If it wasn't so absurd and destructive to our nation it would be laughable.

[Chester]

Posted by Yetti (here)
Sam , Don't you think a 3rd party can take over this ridiculous show we have now, I was thinking the possibilities and couldn't be worse than any of the actual nominees R/D !!

I defer to the following posts -

If Voting Made Any Difference, They Wouldn’t Let Us Do It

70 Years Ago Today, WWII Vets Took Up Arms Against Corrupt Cops and Ran Them Out of Town

and this one - here

I might add that if something serious (indictable) comes out in additional e-mails and with Trump's continuous acts of self implosion... perhaps Johnson gets in after all. Not sure that would be any better than any of them.

I would like to nominate a 5th candidate... our dog, Jax.

[bogeyman]

The system itself is always there regardless of the political parties and Presidential candidates. Those that know how to manipulate or circumvent the system and those that know how to control the media it would be entirely possible to "rig" the system so Trump loses, all it takes is the media to turn on him. Who controls the media, are they as free as some make out? If anything effects the masses, and effects opinions then someone is going to take an interest especially those in power, and not necessary those in the public eye.

[Yetti]

Hey Sam, remember the President can't fix all alone, our commitment as individuals and as a group of a modern society put us as well in charge of the country, being vigilant 24/7 knowing the bad guys still there trying to push their agenda ! This is the country where my children will live and I want to put my grain of sand to help build a decent future for them with solid basis, not continuous caos. I already lost my country and all my work of several years , I do not want to loose this one too.

[petra]

I cannot wait for the election to be over! I'm in Canada and I am SO SICK of hearing "Make America Great Again". I wonder is he gonna copyright that or what?

I know it's awful, but that man reminds me a bit of myself. Don't vote for me!!

[Chester]

Posted by Yetti (here)
Hey Sam, remember the President can't fix all alone, our commitment as individuals and as a group of a modern society put us as well in charge of the country, being vigilant 24/7 knowing the bad guys still there trying to push their agenda ! This is the country where my children will live and I want to put my grain of sand to help build a decent future for them with solid basis, not continuous chaos. I already lost my country and all my work of several years , I do not want to loose this one too.

I understand this. I would love to know where you originated from.

[Mike Gorman]

Yes, the Trump question has developed-when he first emerged as a contender I thought he was a genuine alternative to the establishment, and the fact he is a bit of a maverick seemed to back that up-compared to Hillary Clinton he is at least not a 'war hawk' and gob-****e (an old Irish expression) which Clinton so grossly is (Her cackling gloat over Quadafi's murder is chilling). BUT this is now the classic dialectic we are always being offered by the shadow power structure. Dreadful predicament we are in really.

[onawah]

Is this how the elections are being rigged-Jon Rappaport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/…...on-shocker-i…/ Votes are being counted as fractions instead of as whole numbers
by Jon Rappoport
August 1, 2016

As we know, there are a number of ways to rig an election. Bev Harris, at blackboxvoting.org, is exploring a specific “cheat sheet” that has vast implications for the Trump vs. Hillary contest.
It’s a vote-counting system called GEMS.
I urge you to dive into her multi-part series, Fraction Magic (Part-1 here). Here are key Harris quotes. They’re all shockers:
“Our testing [of GEMS] shows that one vote can be counted 25 times, another only one one-thousandth of a time, effectively converting some votes to zero.”
“This report summarizes the results of our review of the GEMS election management system, which counts approximately 25 percent of all votes in the United States. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes. This tampering is not visible to election observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized vote feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.”
“GEMS vote-counting systems are and have been operated under five trade names: Global Election Systems, Diebold Election Systems, Premier Election Systems, Dominion Voting Systems, and Election Systems & Software, in addition to a number of private regional subcontractors. At the time of this writing, this system is used statewide in Alaska, Connecticut, Georgia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Utah and Vermont, and for counties in Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. It is also used in Canada.”
“Instead of ‘1’ the vote is allowed to be 1/2, or 1+7/8, or any other value that is not a whole number.”
“Weighting a race [through the use of GEMS] removes the principle of ‘one person-one vote’ to allow some votes to be counted as less than one or more than one. Regardless of what the real votes are, candidates can receive a set percentage of votes. Results can be controlled. For example, Candidate A can be assigned 44% of the votes, Candidate B 51%, and Candidate C the rest.”
“All evidence that [rigged] fractional values ever existed [in the GEMS system] can be removed instantly even from the underlying database using a setting in the GEMS data tables, in which case even instructing GEMS to show the [rigged] decimals will fail to reveal they were used.”
“Source code: Instructions to treat votes as decimal values instead of whole numbers [i.e., rigging] are inserted multiple times in the GEMS source code itself; thus, this feature cannot have been created by accident.”
A contact who, so far, apparently wishes to remain anonymous states the following about the history of the GEMS system:
“The Fractional vote [rigging] portion traces directly to Jeffrey W. Dean, whose wife was primary stockholder of the company that developed GEMS. He ran the company but was prohibited from handling money or checks due to a criminal conviction for computer fraud, for which he spent 4 years in prison. Almost immediately after being released from prison he was granted intimate access to elections data and large government contracts for ballot printing and ballot processing.”
I see no effort on the part of the federal government, state governments, or the mainstream press to investigate the GEMS system or respond to Bev Harris’ extensive analysis.
It’s not as if media outlets are unaware of her. From shesource.org, here is an excerpt from her bio:
“Harris has been referred to as ‘the godmother’ of the election reform movement. (Boston Globe). Vanity Fair magazine credits her with founding the movement to reform electronic voting. Time Magazine calls her book, Black Box Voting, ‘the bible’ of electronic voting… Harris’s investigations have led some to call her the ‘Erin Brockovich of elections.’ (Salon.com)… Harris has supervised five ‘hack demonstrations’ in the field, using real voting machines. These have been covered by the Associated Press, the Washington Post, and in formal reports by the United States General Accounting Office…”
So far, her analysis of GEMS seems to be labeled “too hot to handle.” Press outlets prefer to report the slinging of mud from both Presidential candidates’ camps. Meanwhile, the actual results of the coming elections—including Congressional races—appear to be up for grabs, depending on who controls GEMS.
Jon Rappoport

[Yetti]

Hi Sam, I was born in Argentina, later move to Venezuela , and now I'm gringo !!

[ponda]

Rigged voting machines...???

Here's a vid from https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...ill-be-rigged/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ltv0NF9-hvU

[Chester]

Posted by Yetti (here)
Hi Sam, I was born in Argentina, later move to Venezuela , and now I'm gringo !!

Incredible y por eso tu hablas Espanol, si? Vivi en Panama y Costa Rica y Curacao por 15 anos. Mi esposa es una Colombiana. Estaba en Caracas una vez en 2001. Donde vives ahorita? Estoy en Dallas, Texas.